Hi, and welcome back. 00:00:01.36\00:00:02.70 Many of you have been watching sometimes may feel sorry for me 00:00:02.73\00:00:06.13 for the inability that I have of forming sentences. 00:00:06.17\00:00:10.54 Somewhere in between my brain and my mouth, 00:00:10.57\00:00:13.01 the words get confused. 00:00:13.04\00:00:14.61 And I have a little bit of trouble sometimes 00:00:14.64\00:00:16.34 and I'm working on that. 00:00:16.38\00:00:17.71 But I have friends who are brilliant songwriters 00:00:17.75\00:00:21.58 that can form sentences and write songs, 00:00:21.62\00:00:24.65 the lyrics of which are heavenly in my opinion. 00:00:24.69\00:00:28.36 And I have one of my friends on line right now, Dave Clark. 00:00:28.39\00:00:32.76 He's written several songs many that you've probably sung. 00:00:32.79\00:00:35.80 I'm gonna talk to him. 00:00:35.83\00:00:37.17 Let's see if he can give me some tips on how to talk. 00:00:37.20\00:00:39.70 Dave, are you there? 00:00:39.73\00:00:41.80 I'm here, Tim. How are you doing, sir? 00:00:41.84\00:00:43.44 Hey, I'm doing wonderful. 00:00:43.47\00:00:44.81 It is so great to see you. 00:00:44.84\00:00:46.27 I was just telling my friends 00:00:46.31\00:00:47.64 what a great songwriter you are. 00:00:47.68\00:00:49.01 Let's start off with maybe 00:00:49.04\00:00:50.38 some of the songs that you have written 00:00:50.41\00:00:51.75 that they may recognize. 00:00:51.78\00:00:54.82 Well, it depends who you listen to, I guess. 00:00:54.85\00:00:57.42 I've been doing it a long, long time. 00:00:57.45\00:00:59.09 And we wrote a lot of the stuff 00:00:59.12\00:01:01.36 for groups like For Him and Phillips, Craig and Dean, 00:01:01.39\00:01:04.13 and songs like Crucified with Christ, 00:01:04.16\00:01:07.33 Mercy Came Running, 00:01:07.36\00:01:09.66 This Is How It Feels To Be Free, 00:01:09.70\00:01:11.37 why, I'm not sure. 00:01:11.40\00:01:13.37 The irony is that I grew up in southern gospel music. 00:01:13.40\00:01:16.24 And last year was the first southern gospel single 00:01:16.27\00:01:19.77 I ever had. 00:01:19.81\00:01:21.14 Really? 00:01:21.18\00:01:22.51 And it was just kind of ironic but... 00:01:22.54\00:01:23.95 Now, how long have you been writing? 00:01:23.98\00:01:25.68 I wanted to write, 00:01:25.71\00:01:27.32 I felt like God called me to write from the time 00:01:27.35\00:01:29.28 I was a young kid. 00:01:29.32\00:01:30.65 I lived in Michigan. 00:01:30.69\00:01:32.39 Back in that day, we didn't have computers. 00:01:32.42\00:01:34.36 There was no other way to do it except move to Nashville. 00:01:34.39\00:01:38.39 So that's what I did, two weeks after high school. 00:01:38.43\00:01:40.83 I set out with the ugliest car in Michigan. 00:01:40.86\00:01:43.87 And by the time I got there, 00:01:43.90\00:01:45.53 I had the ugliest car in Nashville. 00:01:45.57\00:01:48.34 Cool. 00:01:48.37\00:01:49.70 Well, you felt right at home. 00:01:49.74\00:01:51.11 I did. 00:01:51.14\00:01:52.47 So you are also a musician though. 00:01:52.51\00:01:54.41 You brought that too to the table. 00:01:54.44\00:01:58.38 I played, you know, through high school and stuff, 00:01:58.41\00:02:02.18 and ended up my first professional music job 00:02:02.22\00:02:05.82 was riding on the same bus 00:02:05.85\00:02:07.62 that you rode on with the Spear family. 00:02:07.66\00:02:09.29 And I stayed there five years. 00:02:09.32\00:02:10.69 And I love being with them, 00:02:10.73\00:02:14.20 they were my parents' favorite group as a kid, 00:02:14.23\00:02:16.77 and it was a dream come true. 00:02:16.80\00:02:19.07 But I remember, one night, 00:02:19.10\00:02:20.44 we were doing the camp meeting in Iowa, Nazarene camp meeting. 00:02:20.47\00:02:24.14 And they did a song called, 00:02:24.17\00:02:26.37 pour through me about vessels have gone dry. 00:02:26.41\00:02:28.84 And even though I'd written a song, 00:02:28.88\00:02:30.21 I knew they would sing it to me. 00:02:30.25\00:02:32.01 They also sang the verse that night 00:02:32.05\00:02:34.12 that never get sung to the old hymn, 00:02:34.15\00:02:36.55 I'd rather have Jesus. 00:02:36.58\00:02:37.92 And that night, they sang: 00:02:37.95\00:02:39.35 I'd rather have Jesus to men's applause 00:02:39.39\00:02:41.69 I'd rather be faithful to His dear cause 00:02:41.72\00:02:43.99 I'd rather have Jesus than worldwide fame 00:02:44.03\00:02:45.89 And I knew who they were singing to. 00:02:45.93\00:02:47.86 We were in an industry 00:02:47.90\00:02:49.23 where the only way to gauge our success 00:02:49.26\00:02:51.50 was by men's applause. 00:02:51.53\00:02:53.27 And I went that week and resigned to Brock 00:02:53.30\00:02:55.34 and I just said, "God called me to write. 00:02:55.37\00:02:57.44 As good as you've been to me, 00:02:57.47\00:02:58.81 I don't know how I'm going to do it 00:02:58.84\00:03:00.18 but I've got to write songs." 00:03:00.21\00:03:01.54 Sweet. 00:03:01.58\00:03:03.41 Well, that's an awesome step of faith to take. 00:03:03.45\00:03:04.78 And I know that there are a lot of singers 00:03:04.81\00:03:06.68 and song writers in Nashville 00:03:06.72\00:03:09.65 who are trying to find their place, 00:03:09.68\00:03:11.69 and so it's a good thing to follow the calling of God 00:03:11.72\00:03:14.19 and to just put it all in His hands and trust Him. 00:03:14.22\00:03:17.59 And He certainly has been good to you. 00:03:17.63\00:03:19.29 I've seen your name on several billboard charts 00:03:19.33\00:03:22.93 and that's really, really cool. 00:03:22.96\00:03:24.60 And it's an honor to call you friend 00:03:24.63\00:03:26.37 to the extent that I am your friend at all. 00:03:26.40\00:03:29.07 But I do admire your talent and your gift, 00:03:29.10\00:03:32.24 and I encourage you to keep doing what you do. 00:03:32.27\00:03:36.54 Now you're also affiliated with a publishing company. 00:03:36.58\00:03:40.68 Are you still doing that? 00:03:40.72\00:03:42.45 Yes. 00:03:42.48\00:03:43.82 I am creative director for a company called Lillenas, 00:03:43.85\00:03:46.79 and they do a lot of church music 00:03:46.82\00:03:49.22 and we were blessed to get to work 00:03:49.26\00:03:51.26 with the Tim Parton arrangement 00:03:51.29\00:03:52.63 that came out last year with Michael Speck. 00:03:52.66\00:03:54.33 Right, cool. 00:03:54.36\00:03:55.70 I love the church. 00:03:55.73\00:03:57.07 And sometimes you call it core music, 00:03:57.10\00:03:59.60 sometimes it's inspirational music. 00:03:59.63\00:04:01.64 All my life, I have had one market in mind 00:04:01.67\00:04:03.97 and that's to write for where I felt like the church was. 00:04:04.01\00:04:06.61 Nice. 00:04:06.64\00:04:07.98 I love the ability to edify the saints through lyrics 00:04:08.01\00:04:10.65 that glorify God. 00:04:10.68\00:04:12.35 Sure. 00:04:12.38\00:04:13.72 So let's do a song 00:04:13.75\00:04:15.08 that maybe there's a favorite song of yours. 00:04:15.12\00:04:17.89 Anything you've written you like? 00:04:17.92\00:04:20.36 Probably, a writer always likes the last one they wrote, 00:04:20.39\00:04:24.36 and the best one is the one they're about to write, so. 00:04:24.39\00:04:27.96 But you know what? 00:04:28.00\00:04:29.33 Probably one that people might know 00:04:29.36\00:04:30.70 the most would be Christmas song. 00:04:30.73\00:04:33.17 And it was recorded about 20 years ago, 00:04:33.20\00:04:36.07 and every year since it's been recorded by another artist 00:04:36.10\00:04:40.08 in this past Christmas, Rascal Flatts recorded it, 00:04:40.11\00:04:43.14 so that was kind of exciting. 00:04:43.18\00:04:44.51 Cool. And so give me the title. 00:04:44.55\00:04:47.42 The title is, A Strange Way to Save the World. 00:04:47.45\00:04:50.25 Strange Way, all right. 00:04:50.29\00:04:51.62 Let's do it. 00:04:51.65\00:04:52.99 I'm sure he must have been surprised 00:05:08.94\00:05:15.24 At where this road had taken him 00:05:15.28\00:05:20.45 Cause never in a million lives 00:05:20.48\00:05:26.52 Would he have dreamed of Bethlehem 00:05:26.55\00:05:32.99 And standing at the manger 00:05:33.03\00:05:36.46 He saw with his own eyes 00:05:36.50\00:05:40.50 The message from the angel come to life 00:05:40.54\00:05:46.24 And Joseph said "Why me 00:05:46.27\00:05:50.08 I'm just a simple man of trade 00:05:50.11\00:05:54.88 Why Him 00:05:54.92\00:05:56.58 With all the rulers in the world 00:05:56.62\00:06:02.22 Why here 00:06:02.26\00:06:05.06 Inside this stable filled with hay 00:06:05.09\00:06:09.93 Why her, she's just an ordinary girl 00:06:09.96\00:06:16.84 Now I'm not one to second guess 00:06:16.87\00:06:21.41 What angels have to say 00:06:21.44\00:06:25.81 But this is such a strange way to save the World" 00:06:25.85\00:06:31.82 To think of how it could have been 00:06:38.53\00:06:44.17 If Jesus had come as He deserved 00:06:44.20\00:06:49.74 There would have been no Bethlehem 00:06:49.77\00:06:55.31 No lowly shepherds at His birth 00:06:55.34\00:06:58.91 But Joseph knew the reason 00:07:02.65\00:07:05.55 Love had to reach so far 00:07:05.59\00:07:09.72 And as he held the Savior in his arms 00:07:09.76\00:07:15.93 He must have thought "Why me 00:07:15.96\00:07:20.24 I'm just a simple man of trade 00:07:20.27\00:07:24.57 Why Him 00:07:24.61\00:07:26.34 With all the rulers in the world 00:07:26.37\00:07:32.45 Why here inside this stable filled with hay 00:07:32.48\00:07:39.29 Why her 00:07:39.32\00:07:41.09 She's just an ordinary girl 00:07:41.12\00:07:47.66 Now I'm not one to second guess 00:07:47.70\00:07:52.27 What angels have to say 00:07:52.30\00:07:56.30 But this is such a strange way 00:07:56.34\00:07:57.67 To save the World" 00:08:07.88\00:08:09.88 What a great song! 00:08:23.77\00:08:25.13 Wonderful, wonderful lyrics. 00:08:25.17\00:08:27.34 Dave Clark, you are amazing man. 00:08:27.37\00:08:29.14 Thank you very much and God bless you. 00:08:29.17\00:08:32.74 And I look forward to hearing more songs from you. 00:08:32.77\00:08:35.24 Tim, thank you so much and best of luck for your show. 00:08:35.28\00:08:37.98 And God is blessing on your whole staff there. 00:08:38.01\00:08:40.48 Thank you so much. Thanks, brother. 00:08:40.52\00:08:41.85 God bless you. Bye. 00:08:41.88\00:08:43.22 Bye-bye. 00:08:43.25\00:08:44.59 For Chuck and Gayle in Montana, and for Ellen in Virginia, 00:08:44.62\00:08:48.39 here are two more modern gospel songs 00:08:48.42\00:08:50.36 with beautifully crafted lyrics 00:08:50.39\00:08:52.39 depicting the second coming of Jesus Christ, 00:08:52.43\00:08:55.13 We Shall Behold Him and The Midnight Cry. 00:08:55.16\00:08:57.57 We shall behold Him 00:10:09.60\00:10:14.84 Yes, we shall behold Him 00:10:17.85\00:10:22.45 Face to face 00:10:25.95\00:10:30.09 In all of His glory 00:10:30.13\00:10:35.53 We shall behold Him 00:10:39.80\00:10:44.27 Yes, we shall behold Him 00:10:47.74\00:10:53.21 Face to face 00:10:56.89\00:11:02.26 Our Savior and Lord 00:11:05.33\00:11:10.60 The angel will sound 00:11:13.97\00:11:17.41 The shout of His coming 00:11:20.98\00:11:24.58 And the sleeping shall rise 00:11:27.92\00:11:31.85 From there slumbering place 00:11:34.92\00:11:38.33 And those who remain 00:11:42.36\00:11:47.04 Shall be changed in a moment 00:11:50.11\00:11:54.11 And we shall behold him 00:11:58.05\00:12:03.02 Then face to face 00:12:06.35\00:12:10.43 Yes, we shall behold Him 00:12:13.73\00:12:20.07 We shall behold Him 00:12:23.10\00:12:27.74 Face to face 00:12:30.75\00:12:34.48 In all of His glory 00:12:34.52\00:12:39.55 We shall behold Him 00:12:42.62\00:12:47.66 We shall behold Him 00:12:51.00\00:12:56.44 Face to face 00:12:59.47\00:13:03.38 Our Savior and Lord 00:13:06.72\00:13:10.69 When Jesus steps out 00:13:14.12\00:13:17.46 On a cloud to call God's children 00:13:20.56\00:13:23.70 The dead in Christ shall rise 00:13:26.70\00:13:29.44 To meet Him in the air 00:13:32.64\00:13:35.18 And then those that remain 00:13:38.25\00:13:41.12 Will be quickly changed 00:13:44.35\00:13:47.52 At the midnight cry 00:13:51.59\00:13:53.43 When Jesus comes again 00:13:56.46\00:13:59.53 I look around me 00:14:05.11\00:14:08.48 And I see prophecies fulfilling 00:14:08.51\00:14:12.98 And the signs of the times 00:14:15.98\00:14:20.46 They're appearing everywhere 00:14:20.49\00:14:26.49 I can almost hear the Father 00:14:26.53\00:14:32.43 As He says, "Son, go get my children" 00:14:32.47\00:14:37.14 And at the midnight cry 00:14:40.14\00:14:44.88 The bride of Christ shall rise 00:14:44.91\00:14:48.15 When Jesus steps out 00:14:51.25\00:14:54.42 On a cloud to call God's children 00:14:57.59\00:15:00.83 The dead in Christ shall rise 00:15:03.87\00:15:10.11 To meet Him in the air 00:15:10.14\00:15:16.38 And then those that remain 00:15:16.41\00:15:22.98 Will be quickly changed 00:15:23.02\00:15:29.32 We shall behold Him 00:15:29.36\00:15:35.36 Our Savior and Lord 00:15:35.40\00:15:39.77 Amen. 00:15:54.88\00:15:56.92 I have such sweet memories of New Year's Eve services 00:15:56.95\00:15:59.75 as a child when we would form a circle 00:15:59.79\00:16:01.99 around the church sanctuary 00:16:02.02\00:16:03.73 and sing this chorus 00:16:03.76\00:16:05.29 reminding each other of that blessed hope 00:16:05.33\00:16:07.93 that He is coming soon. 00:16:07.96\00:16:09.56 He's coming soon 00:16:16.94\00:16:21.01 He's coming soon 00:16:21.04\00:16:24.75 With joy 00:16:24.78\00:16:26.51 We welcome His returning 00:16:26.55\00:16:31.99 It may be morn 00:16:32.02\00:16:35.79 It may be night or noon 00:16:35.82\00:16:39.73 We know He's coming soon 00:16:39.76\00:16:46.47 Sing that with me. 00:16:46.50\00:16:47.97 He's coming soon He's coming soon 00:16:48.00\00:16:53.21 With joy we welcome His returning 00:16:56.21\00:17:01.68 It may be morn 00:17:04.69\00:17:08.66 It may be night or noon 00:17:08.69\00:17:13.19 We know He's coming soon 00:17:13.23\00:17:20.07 And if you believe that, 00:17:23.61\00:17:24.94 I think it's all the more important 00:17:24.97\00:17:26.31 to keep a song in your heart 00:17:26.34\00:17:28.24 because Jesus keeps us singing. 00:17:28.28\00:17:31.08 Jesus, Jesus, Jesus 00:17:31.11\00:17:35.08 Sweetest name I know 00:17:35.12\00:17:39.25 Fills my every longing 00:17:39.29\00:17:43.29 Keeps me singing as I go 00:17:43.32\00:17:46.90 Send me a song Then you sing along with me 00:17:54.74\00:18:01.68 You Favorites by Request La la la 00:18:05.21\00:18:11.59 La la la 00:18:11.62\00:18:13.09