Hello and welcome to
3ABN's Praise Him Music Channel.
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And today, we're starting
a new series and it's called,
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you can write a song.
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And I can't think of anyone
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that I would
rather have to teach me
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how to write a song
than Mr. Lanny Wolfe.
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Lanny, it's good to
have you here today.
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It's good to be
here, Danny. Thank you.
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And you come all the way from...
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Houston, Texas. Houston, Texas.
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There you go. Okay.
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I know you spent many
years in Jackson, Mississippi.
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And we'll probably hear
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a little bit
more about your life,
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but I'm excited
about this new series.
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So you're going
to actually be...
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Today, the first program,
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we're kind of introducing
you and what we want to do,
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and what our goal is.
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And 3ABN is always,
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we try to strive for excellence.
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Sure.
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Whatever we do, whether
we're preaching prophecies
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of Daniel and Revelation,
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you know, whether we're doing
vegetarian cooking classes,
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or, you know,
doing Today programs,
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whatever we try to do,
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you know, strive for excellence.
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So as when you're thinking
about you can write a song,
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who could I get that I
really I think could teach?
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Well, how about
someone, first of all,
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who has taught young people
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and taught music
for 20 plus years
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and might even,
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wouldn't hurt to
have a master's degree
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or two in music.
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But all of
that's not necessarily,
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necessary to write a song,
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but this is
going to be a fun time.
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It's a great time.
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And so I want to
talk to you a little bit.
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First of all, you
and I met some years ago
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at, actually,
Lari Goss's funeral.
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Of course, I've
heard of Lanny Wolfe
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for many, many years.
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About four years
ago we met personally.
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At Larry Goss's funeral.
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And so, Melody saw you there.
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My daughter and she's like,
"Daddy, that's Lanny Wolfe.
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We got to go talk to him."
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And, of course,
Melody loved your,
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we loved your music too,
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but ever since
she was a little girl,
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she had it playing all the time.
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So she knows, as you found out,
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she knows almost all your songs.
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Better than I do.
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I think so.
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She tells me when
I'm playing it wrong.
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I think so
after all these years.
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But we've done a
number of projects together
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in the last four years,
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and even co-written a
number of songs together,
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which I'm
deeply honored by that.
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And 'cause I never really
considered myself a songwriter.
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He's still modest.
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No, no.
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I've written a number of
songs, but if someone says...
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He's a great songwriter.
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If someone says,
"What do you do?"
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It's never entered my mind
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as one of the
things that I do is...
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On the resume.
That I'm a songwriter.
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Yeah.
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I just don't, you know,
that's something I just...
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Every now and
then, you feel like
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the Lord gives you
songs and you write it.
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But talking to you and you been,
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you know,
teaching music for so long.
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You came up with
the idea and said,
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why don't we do a program on...
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You can write a song.
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The viewers at home, right?
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Where we're
looking at the camera,
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you can write a song.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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So why do you want to do this?
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You're busy and
you're still writing music.
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I mean, you're cranking it out.
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You haven't slowed
down at all over the years.
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Why do you want to take the time
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and work with our viewers?
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Well, to me, in my DNA,
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God gifted me
with this songwriting
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ability to put
words and music together
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that bless people.
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So for 20 some years
I've taught young people
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who have
written wonderful songs.
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And I feel like that
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so many people
out there have a song,
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they just don't know it yet.
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And so, when we talk
about these first few sessions,
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it's like you may
have never thought
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that you were a songwriter
or could be a songwriter.
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Maybe you don't
play an instrument.
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You don't have to, you
can be the lyrics side of it.
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So, you, yes, you out
there, you can write a song
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and I'm going to
show you how simple.
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I don't mean for
this to sound wrong,
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but how simple it is.
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And basically,
you're going to be so amazed
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at how much is in you
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that you've never thought about
in terms of being a songwriter.
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People that are watching
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or listening to
this on 3ABN Radio
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apparently already like music.
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And if you like music,
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you probably at
some point in your life,
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some words have
come to you or a tune.
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You've said, "Wow,
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this little tune
popped in my mind."
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You know, but you never
really, you never acted on it.
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You are saying,
"Well, somebody...
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There's Lanny Wolfes
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and Bill Gaithers
and all the writers,
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you know, I don't
really need to do it."
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But Jesus says, "Go
ye into all the world."
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And there are many
ways that we can go.
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Some preachers
preach the gospel,
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you know, artists
sing and do music.
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And songwriting is
just a, it's a huge part
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because sometimes
we don't think of it
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in that sense.
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But we'll talk later
in one of your programs
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about Fanny Crosby.
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What if there had
been no Fanny Crosby in?
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No 8,000 hymns.
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Eight thousand hymns whatsoever.
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What if Lanny
Wolfe had decided to be,
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we'll talk about
it, something else?
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Maybe an
architect, for instance,
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and didn't write
hundreds and hundreds of songs
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like Surely the Presence
of the Lord is in this Place
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or More than
Wonderful and all of that.
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It could have happened.
It could have happened.
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It could have happened.
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So today we want
to encourage you.
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So what I'd like to do,
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this is just to get
to know Lanny Wolfe.
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He'll be the
instructor for this.
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And we want you to
get your pencil and paper,
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or nowadays your iPad,
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whatever you want
to make notes of this.
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And we'll make these
programs available to you
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if you want to get them at home
in CD or DVD or whatever else.
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All these new
technology we have,
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you know,
however is best for you
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we want you to have it.
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But today, I want to talk a
little bit about you, Lanny.
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Instead of
starting at the beginning,
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let's start more
later on in life.
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You have many awards.
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And today when we're
talking about awards and gifts
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that we have,
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this is not talking
about the individual.
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We give God the
credit for every bit of this.
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I know Lanny does too.
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So it's...
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Yet I want to talk
about it just for people maybe
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who don't know you and
don't know your background.
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You've been up for songwriter
of the year how many times?
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Numerous times.
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Eight times.
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Eight times.
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Did you ever become
songwriter of the year?
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I almost wonder like,
will this ever happen?
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Don't nominate me again.
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It just makes me
feel bad one more year.
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And, actually, the
eighth time was the charm.
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Not the third or the
seventh, it was the eighth time.
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And I did get a Dove Award
for songwriter of the year,
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the same year that
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More than Wonderful
got song of the year.
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So the bottom line of
that is don't ever give up.
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All right.
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Don't ever give up.
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So Sandi Patty
and Larnelle Harris
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really made that song.
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Absolutely.
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In a world, it's
saying about the world.
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And it came out of
a Christmas musical.
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Okay. Really?
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Yes.
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Thou shall call His name Jesus.
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And it almost didn't even
make the Christmas musical.
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Is that amazing how God works?
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That is, that is amazing.
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So it almost didn't get in.
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Wow.
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And now, of
course, it's a staple,
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I mean, in gospel music.
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People around the world...
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As I said, I've
been to many countries
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and songs like
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Surely the Presence of
the Lord is in this Place.
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I've sang that
song numerous times.
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I never get tired of it.
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When I sing it,
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it's like I'm singing
it for the first time.
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And you know what's
amazing about that, Danny?
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So I was playing for a funeral
just this week, just this week.
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And the night
before the funeral,
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God gave me a new
verse to Surely the Presence.
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No, I don't need your verses.
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God gave me a new
verse that would be apropos
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and very fitting for funerals.
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Isn't that amazing?
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So He originally
gave me the song in 1974,
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and this week God
gives me a new verse
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that's very
fitting for funerals.
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So you're not
going to let us help
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write you another verse?
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No.
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If you need any
more, you'll do it.
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Please, people.
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Well, we get to
write our own song
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because you can write a song.
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I'm going to teach
you how to write a song.
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You can write a song, right?
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That's what we're going to do.
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Okay, let's go back
and talk a little bit
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about your background?
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Okay.
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Okay. You were
born and raised where?
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Columbus, Ohio.
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Okay, tell us about
your early life a little?
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My father was a
railroad engineer.
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Mother was just a homemaker.
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I graduated from Linden McKinley
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high school, got a scholarship
to Ohio State University.
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I thought I was going
to become an architect.
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I say a little bit good.
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I was good at
math and good at art,
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so I thought, or
so the grade said.
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And so I thought maybe
I should be an architect.
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And after my first quarter
at Ohio State University,
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I decided that I felt
like I didn't want my life
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to be consumed
with that project.
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And so God just kind
of worked the way He does.
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Somebody from a Bible college
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on the West Coast
came to me and said,
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"We're going to
become missionaries to France
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and they need a minister
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or they need a dean
at the School of Music."
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Well, number one,
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I didn't really know
that much about music.
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I played.
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I had written my first
song at 15, God is Wonderful.
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The song wasn't as
wonderful as the title.
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But what's amazing about
this folks is 27 years later
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after the first
song, God is Wonderful,
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God gave me a song
called More than Wonderful.
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And it somehow was something
that the first song wasn't.
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So I went to the West Coast.
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I taught there for
a year and realized
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that as much as I enjoy
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what I was doing and
teaching young people,
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I really didn't
have the knowledge
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that I needed to be fair,
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to instruct
people at college level.
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So I worked on my
first degree in music.
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So I'd already had two degrees,
one in math and business,
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and a master's degree
in business administration.
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So now I'm working
on a second BA degree,
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this time in music education.
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I got that from San
Jose State University.
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Went to a Bible college
that was opening up in 1968
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in St. Louis, Missouri.
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So I was there for six years,
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and that's where Dave
Petersen became a student.
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We formed the Lanny Wolfe Trio.
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We got associated
with the Benson Company.
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But all those
six years, I remember
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every Monday
night driving 27 miles
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to Southern Illinois
University Edwardsville,
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working on my
master's degree in music.
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And so got that.
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And then in 1974
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felt that God wanted us
to go to a Bible college
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that was moving from
Tupelo to Jackson, Mississippi,
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Jackson College of Ministries,
where I was for 18 years.
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So I ended up with
two degrees in business,
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two degrees in music,
and an honorary doctorate.
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That's called five
degrees, 14 years, slow student.
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Wonderful background though.
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Oh, yes.
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And growing up as you
would have never dreamed
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where God would have taken you.
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Never would have
had the vaguest idea
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of what God was
going to do in my life.
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It's so...
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You know, when
you are young, I'm 18,
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you want to do what
God wants you to do.
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But sometimes we
have the hardest time
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weeding through
all the stuff around us
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to finally find out what
God really wants us to do.
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I'm so glad that
I finally found out
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what God really wanted me to do.
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And it's been a
joy to be a teacher
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to young people
at college level.
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But my greatest
joy is writing songs
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that will bless
the body of Christ
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long after I'm past.
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And, you know, it's true.
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I can't imagine
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some of these
songs that you've written
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never just disappearing
in the Christian realm,
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because these songs
are going to be sung
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because they minister to us.
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Again, I can talk
personally about this
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because I've been so blessed,
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so affected by your music
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that, actually,
it encouraged me.
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I'll give you a
little bit of background.
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Sure.
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In 1970s, in '75, I went
to Michigan for four years
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from Southern Illinois.
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I managed the lumberyard up
in Berrien Springs, Michigan.
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And so while I was
there, it was a great time.
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Is that the Danny
Shelton Home Depot lumberyard?
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Well, not quite.
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They didn't have
Home Depots back then.
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But while I was there,
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I was building
some houses on the side.
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And I remember going over.
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I worked there and
then I'd work weekends
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and sometime nights on a house,
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like I'd build a
spec house to sell it.
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And I remember
actually over there
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listening to Lanny Wolfe Trio.
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And so I had, I think
it was cassettes then.
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Or 8-tracks.
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Yeah, 8-tracks or cassettes.
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And I remember that in the house
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and I listened to your chords.
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I'm not a great musician,
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but I know a few
chords and learned,
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kind of self-learned.
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And so I learned some
chords and then one day
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I would have been at work
and it'd been a terrible day.
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It was really raining.
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And so I ended up
going to the house,
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there's thunderstorm.
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But then right
before the sun went down,
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I noticed through the
clouds there was this great,
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beautiful golden
sunset and a rainbow.
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And so that
prompted me to write a song.
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Now I'd written
a few little songs,
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but that it really was
an influence of Lanny Wolfe
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because I'd been
listening to your music.
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And here I have the time off
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and I'm
listening to your chords.
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And so if you'll probably,
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if you listened
to a few of my songs,
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you might hear some of
Lanny Wolfe chords in it.
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Not everybody uses 13s
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and things like if
you're doing say undeserving.
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And I'm like,
"Wow, what is that chord?
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That's pretty
neat." So I get my guitar.
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So I actually learned from you
so way back before we ever met.
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And before you learned
any chords from Lanny Wolfe,
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I took lessons from
Frank Meier, God bless,
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when I was nine for two years.
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And then he said
he was moving away.
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I don't think he moved away.
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I'm a pretty bad student.
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John Thompson's book 1,
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all I did was read the numbers
like any smart kid would do.
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So when I got to the end of book
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1 and I'm going into book 2,
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oh my word, I don't
know how to read notes.
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Anyway, I learned
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from that point
on as a teenager.
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I actually learned
chords from John W. Peterson
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and all those
books that he put out.
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He augmented 11th
and there were the notes.
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And so I learned
chords from John W. Peterson.
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And in turn, you picked
up some Lanny Wolfe chords.
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Sure, I
augmented, I don't deserve...
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When you go and do
little augmentative stuff.
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You know, yeah, and
all of that I listened.
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My brother Tommy
played and I'd hear him some,
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but never took formal training.
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And that's what's
great about this new program,
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you can write a song.
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You don't... Lanny's
got numerous degrees.
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I'm too old.
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If I started
school today, I'd never...
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I'd be 110
before I got all those.
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You don't need it.
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What you need is, first of all,
is your commitment to the Lord,
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to say, "Lord, please use me
in ways that I never dreamed."
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Now we have people who send
us songs all the time and say,
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"Here, you're
welcome to use this."
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Yes, we do. Yeah.
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I'm sure you
get more than we do.
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But people say,
"Here, you can use this."
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They really
maybe don't understand
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all that's involved in
using a song or getting songs,
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or maybe the song
doesn't fit what you're doing.
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But so what we want
to do is help people
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in order to construct a song,
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to put it together in a
way that anybody can do it.
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You love the Lord.
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You like music.
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And maybe as Lanny said,
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you don't know much about music,
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but you can write words.
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You can write the words.
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That's right.
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And so a lot of times
that happens on numbers.
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I think Fanny
Crosby was one of those
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that really
didn't write the music.
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She never wrote
music to one song.
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Wow.
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She wrote words to 8,000 hymns.
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Yeah, ain't that amazing, 8,000.
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Eight thousand hymns.
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And she didn't
write her first hymn
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until she was 44 years old.
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Wow.
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Do the math.
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That is amazing.
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Eight thousand.
She lived to be 95.
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So for 51 years,
she wrote 8,000 hymns.
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But not one of those did
she write a note of music.
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So a lot of you folks out there
just be reminded that like,
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don't be afraid
about this whole idea
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that you don't play the piano,
you don't play the guitar.
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No, no, no.
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Hey, you've got a Bible.
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Read the Bible where
there's a scripture says,
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"Greater is He that is in
me than he is in the world."
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One of the songs that has
probably been most impactive
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in the Lanny Wolfe portfolio
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is, Greater is He that is in me
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Greater is He that is in me
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Greater is He that's in
me Than he that is in...
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Excuse me, it was already there.
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And I took it
and I made it a song.
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So if I did that, I just
pulled it from the Bible.
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You can do that too.
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Absolutely.
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It's so much easier
than a lot of people admit.
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And I want to design
this program in this scenario
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so that even if
you don't write a song,
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that it will be
inspirational to you.
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If you just like gospel music,
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you're going to
like this series.
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Okay.
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Let's talk a little
bit about some of the folk
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that maybe some of your students
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or some of the songs
I think of Geron Davis
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writing Holy Ground...
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Of course, one of my students.
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From the beginning of 3ABN,
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we used to go out to the Uplink,
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our first little building
before it was even built.
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Just shelling it up
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and we'd stand there
joining hands together and sing,
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"We are
standing on holy ground."
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And just, you know,
but I found out later
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that he was a student of yours.
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Absolutely.
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And to write incredible
songs, great musician.
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Who are some of the other folk?
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Dan Dean of Phillips, Craig,
and Dean was a student of mine.
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Actually, played keyboard
for the Lanny Wolfe Trio.
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Okay.
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The song, the
Beauty of the Name.
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That was co-written by
a student and a teacher.
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The teacher was Lanny Wolfe.
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The student was Tony
Roberts who took songwriting.
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Okay.
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And so, that's a co-write
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between one of my
students and the teacher.
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We have Jeannie
Tenney who wrote the song,
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One Night with the King.
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And her husband,
Tommy Tenney of God Chasers,
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he actually wrote
the movie, you know?
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Oh, I see.
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I just have so many
wonderful songwriters.
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I mean, Wayne
Goodine and his wife,
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Elizabeth Goodine.
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They've written songs
that Brooklyn Tab has recorded.
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The list just
goes on and on and on.
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But the bottom line
00:18:48.42\00:18:49.76
is even if no one ever
sings your song or publishes it,
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I believe that God gives songs
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to some of us just to bless us.
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Maybe God will give you
a song just to bless you.
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Well, then let it bless you.
00:19:01.04\00:19:03.04
Or maybe to bless your
family, or your local church,
00:19:03.07\00:19:06.21
or your local camp meeting,
00:19:06.24\00:19:07.61
or your local
church organization.
00:19:07.64\00:19:09.38
And I believe God gives songs
to some to bless the world.
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A song will find a way to
go wherever it needs to go
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if it blesses.
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You won't remember this.
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And I don't think
we've ever talked about it,
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but I think it
was here in Illinois.
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You were at church
there Lanny Wolfe Trio
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probably in the 70s.
00:19:27.13\00:19:28.60
And Melody and her
mother that was later killed
00:19:28.63\00:19:31.43
in an automobile accident case.
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She loved your music also.
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We were there
listening and afterwards,
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I don't know if you
were at a record table.
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Back then there were
records, record table.
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There were real records.
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But I said something to you.
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I talked and I said
something about writing
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because I was
interested in writing music.
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I don't remember this day.
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You don't.
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And I just thought about it
00:19:52.69\00:19:54.02
for the other
day when it hit me,
00:19:54.06\00:19:55.39
because when you
said that sometimes
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the song will bless
you, sometimes the world.
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So I said something,
"How did you get into this?
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Like, I have some music.
00:20:03.00\00:20:04.57
You're with what
company?" You said, "Benson."
00:20:04.60\00:20:06.27
And I said something.
00:20:06.30\00:20:07.64
Now I'm paraphrasing
because I don't remember.
00:20:07.67\00:20:09.00
Sure.
00:20:09.04\00:20:10.37
But basically, you said to
me, what you said to me was,
00:20:10.41\00:20:13.91
and now it brought it back to me
00:20:13.94\00:20:15.58
after so many years.
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You said, "Maybe the song
00:20:16.98\00:20:19.05
that God gave
you is just for you.
00:20:19.08\00:20:20.82
Maybe it's something you need.
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So don't think
every song you write,
00:20:22.55\00:20:24.89
the whole world
is going to love it."
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And, you know...
Or has to hear it.
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Publishing companies,
00:20:28.06\00:20:29.39
yeah, are going to
want it or have to hear it.
00:20:29.42\00:20:31.39
And you said some may
just be to bless the city,
00:20:31.43\00:20:33.96
or some a nation,
and some the world.
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And that really helped
me later as I was writing
00:20:37.20\00:20:39.80
because some of the
songs that so blessed me
00:20:39.83\00:20:43.04
when I sang them
didn't seem to catch on
00:20:43.07\00:20:45.01
as much as other songs,
00:20:45.04\00:20:46.37
that I thought, "Well,
00:20:46.41\00:20:47.78
you know, this one, I didn't
expect this much response.
00:20:47.81\00:20:50.75
And on this one,
I just thought..."
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But as I looked
back, you were right.
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It blessed me.
00:20:54.38\00:20:55.72
So God sometimes
gives us songs to bless us.
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A song...
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I want to use the
word a great song,
00:21:01.36\00:21:02.72
but I hate to use the
word great in that sense.
00:21:02.76\00:21:04.86
A great song will rise.
00:21:04.89\00:21:06.49
Okay? Okay.
00:21:06.53\00:21:08.50
Dallas Holm wrote a
song called Rise Again.
00:21:08.53\00:21:11.30
Had a different camera angle.
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So here is Christ talking,
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Jesus talking,
"I'll rise again."
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Okay?
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It was number one
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on gospel music
charts for two years.
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Wow.
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And do you know
the original recording
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was just in a live concert?
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His original recording
with a little string machine.
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He had Elkas back there.
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But it wasn't a
big studio production.
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Can you imagine?
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So if a song has it,
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it will find a
way to bless people.
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And his song blessed
people on gospel music charts,
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number one for two years.
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It's amazing.
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Well, it is amazing.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Now we've got
about five minutes left.
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I want to talk
about next program.
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The very first...
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Tell us a little how
this is going to work.
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We're going to come out.
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Maybe myself or Yvonne
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or somebody will be
here to kind of co-host.
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We'll get you started,
but you're going to go over.
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We have a piano over there,
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a microphone, little podium.
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So you're going to
become Lanny the teacher again,
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the instructor, right?
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You're going to let me do this?
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And so what can we expect?
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Hopefully, what are
we going to get at home?
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Okay.
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The first session
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is going to address
simplicity and repetition.
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The second session is
going to be talking about
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the power of repetition.
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Then I've got a
session coming up called,
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where do I get
ideas for my songs?
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Then we're going to
have some sessions on
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co-writing, publishing.
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There are so many
areas of songwriting
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that I am so
excited to talk about.
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When I got my
second degree in music,
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this is amazing to me.
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So many times,
Danny, you understand this.
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People who don't have a lot
of educational academic prowess
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in their music background,
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they think they know everything.
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You've met some of those?
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Are you talking about me?
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Okay.
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It's all right, go ahead.
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So after I got my
master's in music,
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it was then that I
realized how much I didn't know.
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No.
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There's so much to know.
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So we're just excited
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about all these different areas.
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And I'm excited to
just share this with people
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who think they could
possibly write a song,
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or people who may not think,
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oh, I'm going to write a song,
but I just want to enjoy this.
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Because I want it to
be not only inspirational
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from the
standpoint of writing a song,
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which is inspirational.
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Gospel music is the good
news and it's inspirational.
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When we talk about these
people like Fanny Crosby,
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that's inspirational.
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She was blind.
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Yeah, amazing.
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Can you imagine?
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No.
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She didn't write her
first song until she was 44.
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Amazing again.
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Wow.
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So and some of you are out
there think, "Oh, I'm too old."
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You're never too old. Hello.
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I'm going to talk
to you about some folks
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that did some amazing
things in their winter years.
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No, no, no, forget age,
throw out the AARP card.
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Just if you like gospel music,
you're going to enjoy this.
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And it's possible
that you could write a song
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that the world
is waiting to hear.
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Wow, ain't that a thought?
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I mean, really there are songs
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that we know is going to
come from somebody, right?
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They come from the Lord,
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but going to come from
somebody and why not you?
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And if your song gets
to be song of the year
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or it has widespread visibility,
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don't forget finder's fee.
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Oh, of course.
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I learned that from Danny.
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Oh, yeah, right.
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You know what, though,
00:24:34.54\00:24:35.87
it just occurred to me one
of the things that we could do.
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Those that follow through,
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I think, and write songs
and you go through this series,
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you send us some songs.
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And we play it, yes.
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And if they're
really good songs,
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we'd love to show them
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or maybe get Lanny to play
them or somebody to sing them.
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And we'd love to do that
00:24:51.62\00:24:53.62
because we're
just looking for songs
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that are going to bless,
00:24:56.02\00:24:57.43
you know, people
around the world.
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And so, we'll let Lanny
kind of be the judge here.
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You'll look at the
songs and we'll help you.
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We'll look.
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And I'm sure that
there are going to be folks.
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If you really...
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Especially those you've
never written a song before,
00:25:10.84\00:25:13.78
that maybe is going to say,
00:25:13.81\00:25:15.54
"You know, I want to
follow each of these programs.
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I want to learn how to do this."
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And maybe God will just
give them that special one
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that to begin with, they
won't be like Lanny Wolfe
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beating the bushes for
years or out, you know.
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And Danny, when we used to
have Danny Shelton Trio back
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in the 70s going
around and doing...
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They have the potential now
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to write a song and
literally get on the air
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and millions of
people can see it.
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So I'm excited about it for you.
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I'm excited to have Lanny
and we could sit here and talk.
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In fact, we have and
we've co-written some songs
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by doing just this, but
we wanted to involve you.
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Jesus says, "Go ye
into all the world."
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So songwriting is one of
those go ye into all the world.
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Outreach.
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When the Iron Curtain was up.
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And a lot of us are old
enough to remember that.
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And I was around when it
fell, and I praise God for that.
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But I couldn't go behind,
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Lanny Wolfe couldn't go
behind the Iron Curtain,
00:26:06.03\00:26:08.06
but your music could.
00:26:08.10\00:26:09.43
Yes. And did.
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And so, that's the
amazing thing about it.
00:26:10.83\00:26:13.60
The airwaves, sheet
music, whatever back then.
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Just like the Bible was
behind the Iron Curtain,
00:26:17.61\00:26:20.64
you can't keep the gospel out.
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And so that's what's beautiful
about go ye into all the world.
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Some people we've
seen on this network,
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people come to the Lord
through someone singing a song.
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Absolutely.
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They literally call and say,
00:26:34.79\00:26:36.12
"I gave my heart to Jesus
while I was listening to...
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One time years
ago, Tammy Larson,
00:26:38.76\00:26:40.53
who works here in
production was singing,
00:26:40.56\00:26:43.13
when He was on the
cross, I was on His mind.
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I think one of the Hensons maybe
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or someone wrote
the song and the guy...
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'Cause I ended up talking
to him 64 years old, said,
00:26:50.61\00:26:53.41
"I never accepted Jesus.
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But when she sang that
song, it ministered to me
00:26:54.81\00:26:57.11
and I gave Him my
heart and life to Him."
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We see that over
and over and over.
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So we're not
just here to have fun.
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We want to have fun.
00:27:02.55\00:27:03.89
We're not here just to
teach you how to write a song,
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but to this is
our way of evangelism.
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So almost
everything that I've learned
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in the past has
gone down to one word
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and the closing
moments of earth's history,
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Lanny, and that's evangelism,
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evangelism, evangelism.
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And we can do that.
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And you can do
that when you decide,
00:27:21.50\00:27:23.97
"Hey, I can write a song."
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Now we know
it's with God's help,
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but this is going
to be a great program
00:27:27.38\00:27:29.34
and we want you to watch.
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So we're going to have a number.
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We don't know how many
00:27:32.11\00:27:33.45
we're going to
let the series go.
00:27:33.48\00:27:34.82
We're even looking at possibly
you can play an instrument.
00:27:34.85\00:27:36.89
Like you can play a
guitar and teach you
00:27:36.92\00:27:38.52
in some simple
ways to do it in chords
00:27:38.55\00:27:41.16
and maybe even the
little number system,
00:27:41.19\00:27:43.12
that type of thing.
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So it's going to be a
great series, great program.
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Thank you, Mr. Lanny Wolfe,
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for taking of your
great time to be here with us.
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And so we have to leave you now.
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But until we see you next time,
00:27:53.00\00:27:54.34
remember, you can write a song.
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