Let us pray.
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Once again, Father, we
come into Your presence,
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realizing that our
ways are not Your ways,
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realizing that our
knowledge and wisdom is limited.
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And therefore we come before
You asking for Your wisdom.
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That we might be
able to understand,
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what we're going to study?
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And we me might
be able comprehend,
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how important
it is in this stage
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of the history of
the Adventist church?
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We ask Father,
that You will be with us
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through the ministration
of Your holy angels.
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You will give us
clarity of thought
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and you will
give us tender hearts.
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And we thank You for
the promise of Your presence
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because we ask it in
the name of Jesus', amen.
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The Bible provides an impressive
list of prominent women
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who played a significant
role in the plan of salvation.
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The Old Testament has an
entire on a row of woman,
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who were instrumental
in bringing about things
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that would lead to the coming
of the Messiah to the world.
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We think for example
of Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel,
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Jacobi, Miriam,
Ruth, Esther, Hannah,
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Deborah, Huldah among others.
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The New
Testament is no exception.
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There are numerable
women in the New Testament
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who also were instrumental
in proclaiming the plan
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of salvation and
also preparing the world
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for the arrival of the Messiah.
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We think for example of
Mary, the mother of Jesus.
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Anna, Elizabeth, Mary and
Martha the sisters of Lazarus.
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Joanna, Salome, Dorcas, Lydia,
Priscilla, Domorus, Phoebe.
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The four daughters
of Philips, Lois, Junias
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and many, many others that are
mentioned in the New Testament.
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Women who played an important
roles in the early church.
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Who would dare say that
scripture has nothing to say
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about the role and
importance of women
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in the plan of salvation
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and in the
proclamation of the gospel?
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The International
Standard Bible Encyclopedia
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contains what I consider
to be a must read article.
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It's the article that
bares the title Woman,
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where a
contrast is drawn between
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the biblical concept of
woman and the concept of woman
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that was held in the countries
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of the Middle
East in biblical times.
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I like to read a paragraph from
this very good encyclopedia,
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the International
Standard Bible Encyclopedia
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where it speaks about
the relationship between
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the Hebrew concept of
woman and the concept of woman
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that was held by
the surrounding nations.
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This is how it reads.
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"Under the Hebrew
system the position of woman
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was in marked
contrast with her status
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in surrounding heathen nations.
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Her liberties were greater,
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her employments more
varied and important,
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her social standing more
respectful and commanding.
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The divine law given on
Sinai required children to honor
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the mother
equally with the father.
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A similar esteem was accorded
her in patriarchal times.
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The ancient
Hebrews never entirely lost
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the light of their
original revelation,
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and, more than any
other oriental race,
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they held woman in high
esteem, honor and affection."
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Unfortunately in
the times of Christ,
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the Jews had been
impacted and influenced
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by the views of woman that were
held by the surrounding nations.
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The same encyclopedia
states this about the concept
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that was held by the
Rabbis in the days of Christ.
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"Under pagan
culture and heathen darkness
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woman was universally subject
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to inferior and
degrading conditions.
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Every decline in her status
in the Hebrew commonwealth
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was due to the
incursion of foreign influence."
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You know, when
you look for example
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at the Sabbath in the gospels.
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The Rabbinical Sabbath
is not the biblical Sabbath.
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And so the view that
the Rabbis had of woman
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was not the
biblical view of woman.
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The view of woman had been
distorted in the days of Christ.
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It was not the view
that was upheld by scripture.
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Now, we must ask the question.
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Did God delegate
to Adam at creation
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the headship or leadership role
in the marriage relationship?
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Or was this headship or
leadership role given to Adam
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only after the fall
of Adam and Eve into sin?
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And a related question?
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Did the headship or
the leadership of Adam
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and Man come to an end
when Jesus died on the cross?
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So we're going
to attempt to answer
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these very important questions.
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Was Adam given the headship
and leadership role before sin?
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And after sin, did this headship
or leadership role continue
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or did it end at the
cross when Jesus died?
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Now, there is no
doubt whatsoever.
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When we examine
the biblical testimony
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that there is strong
evidence that Adam and Eve
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were created equal in status.
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But it is also
equally clear in the Bible
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and in the Spirit of
Prophecy that God gave Adam
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the headship or
the leadership role
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in the marriage relationship.
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Now once again I would like
to read a statement that we find
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in the
International Bible Encyclopedia
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where it speaks about
how man could be equal
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and man and woman could be equal
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and yet fulfill different roles.
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This is what the
encyclopedia states.
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"Priority of creation
may indicate headship."
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Because of course,
Eve came after Adam.
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She came from Adam.
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So the article says "Priority of
creation may indicate headship,
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but not as theologians
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have so uniformly
affirmed, superiority.
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Dependence indicates difference
of function, not inferiority.
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Human values are estimated
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in terms of the
mental and spiritual.
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Man and woman are
endowed for equality,
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and are
mutually interdependent."
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And so what this
paragraph is saying is that
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because Adam was prior to Eve,
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he did had the headship
role but that does not mean
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that Adam was superior to Eve.
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They were equal but
they had different functions.
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Now the Book of Genesis
makes it very, very clear
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that Adam and Eve were
created equal in status
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and in value before God.
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Both of them
were told in scripture
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were created in
the image of God.
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Both of them were
blessed by the Creator.
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Both of them
were given the command
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to be fruitful and to multiply.
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To both of them
was given dominion.
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And both of them are described
with the generic word 'Man.'
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Ellen White in
Patriarchs and Prophets, page 47
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makes it very clear
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that Adam and Eve
were created equal.
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This is what she states.
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"Eve was created from a rib
taken from the side of Adam,
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signifying that she was
not to control him as the head,
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nor to be trampled
under his feet as an inferior,
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but to stand by
his side as an equal,
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to be loved and
protected by him."
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So there is no doubt
whatsoever that Adam and Eve
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were created ontologically
equal but the question is.
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Does this mean
that they had identical
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or indistinguishable
roles within that equality?
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Where they created the same?
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Or where they created different
to fulfill different roles?
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There is no doubt whatsoever
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that the man was
created to be the father.
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And the woman was
created to be the mother.
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Both of them were created with
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different physiological
and psychological makeup.
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Each to fulfill the role
for which God created them.
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Does a difference in roles mean
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that the woman was
inferior to the man?
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Absolutely not.
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A distinction in roles
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does not imply
superiority or inferiority.
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The women's
ordination lobby today
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which is very, very powerful
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and puts a lot of pressure
on churches and on society
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has given the impression
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that female's submission to man
within marriage is a bad thing.
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That subjection of wives
to their husbands gives them
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an inferior and
a demeaning status.
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The idea seems to be that
loving subjection of wives
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to their husbands was
instituted after the fall.
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And lasted only until
Jesus died at the cross.
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And when Jesus died
according to this view,
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woman within marriage were
emancipated from subordination
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or subjection to their husbands.
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But the question is this so.
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Was the subjection or
the submission of wives
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to their husbands only
a temporary arrangement
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that was to last
between the fall and the cross?
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Or was this
arrangement something
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that God has
established before sin
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at the every
beginning of human history?
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There is significant
evidence in scripture,
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as well as in the
Spirit of Prophecy
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that man was given the
headship or the leadership role
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before sin and
that this arrangement
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was conformed also after sin.
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Now, what I want to do
in the next few minutes
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that we have
together is to present
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all of the biblical testimony
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that man was created to
be the head and the leader
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and the woman was
created to be subject
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to the authority of the husband.
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Now I know that in this
world that we live in today,
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that sounds just not right
because society has said, no,
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you know, nobody
is subject to anybody.
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Every person is,
does their own thing,
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every person is an individual,
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there is no such thing
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as subjection of
wives to husbands.
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But the church does not
go by what society dictates.
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The church bases its
beliefs and its practices
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upon God's holy word,
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upon the scriptures
and upon the writings
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that we have from
the Spirit of Prophecy.
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So let's take a look
at the biblical evidence
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that man and
woman were created equal
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and yet they had
different functions
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with the
husband being the leader
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and the wife being subject
to the authority of the husband.
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The Apostle Paul harkens
back to the creation account.
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And he explains that
the woman is not allowed
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to exercise authority over
the man because as he says,
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"Adam was created
first and then Eve."
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I want to read that text,
it's found in 1 Timothy 2:12-13.
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This is what the
Apostle Paul says.
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"I do not
permit a woman to teach
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or to have authority over
a man, she must be silent.
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For Adam was
formed first, then Eve."
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Now you notice here
that Paul's argument
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for the submission
of the woman to the man
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is not an issue of culture.
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It's not an issue of something
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that comes about as
a result of the fall.
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The Apostle Paul is arguing on
the basis of the creation order.
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He is saying, that the woman
should be subject to the man.
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And I believe that
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he is especially
talking about marriage
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because man was
created first and then woman.
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This happened before
sin came into the world.
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It's part of
God's original plan.
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It transcends culture and
it takes place before the fall.
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Another indication
that man was to exercise
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the leadership or headship role
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and the wife was to be
subject to the authority
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of the husband was the
manner of Eve's creation.
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Now we all know
according to the Bible
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that Eve was created from man.
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The Apostle Paul
picks up on this.
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Notice 1 Corinthians 11:8
where the Apostle Paul argues
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that the woman
should be submissive
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to the headship of the man.
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And now I quote,
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"because man did
not come from woman
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but woman came from man."
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Notice once again that this
has nothing to do with culture,
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it has nothing
to do with the fall.
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Because the
Apostle Paul is arguing
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on the basis of
the creation order
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that took place before sin.
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He says very clearly
man did not come from woman
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but woman came from man.
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That took place before sin.
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And so the Apostle Paul is
taking what Genesis 2:21 says
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about the manner of
Eve's coming into existence.
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And he is saying that
shows that the wife or the woman
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should be
subject to her husband.
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You see, in the
Bible origin and authority
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are very closely related.
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For example,
Jesus is preeminent.
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And the reason
why He is preeminent
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and above all creation
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is because He is
the source of creation.
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For this reason
in Colossians 1:15,
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Jesus is called
the head of the body.
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Now, let's take
another example a child.
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Is a child required to render
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obedience and
respect to his parents?
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Absolutely. Why?
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Because the child derived
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his or her
existence from the parents.
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And therefore,
children should be
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obedience and
submissive to their parents.
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Apostle Paul is
arguing in the same manner.
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That because the
woman came from the man,
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the man is the
source of the woman,
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the woman in the
marriage relationship
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should be
subject to her husband.
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Another indication that man was
created to exercise authority
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or the headship role is the
fact that the Bible tells us
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that Eve was made
to be Adam's helper.
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Now, the Apostle Paul again
picks up on the creation order.
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In 1 Corinthians 11:9,
the Apostle Paul explains
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what Moses meant
when he spoke of Eve
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as being created
as a helper for man.
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This is what the
Apostle Paul says.
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"Neither was man
created for woman,
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but woman was created for man."
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Once again, the
Apostle Paul is not arguing
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on the basis of culture.
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He is not
arguing about something
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that took place after the fall.
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He is saying that this is
part of the creation order.
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Another indication
that man was to exercise
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the headship or the
leadership role even before sin
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is because the Bible tells
us that Adam gave Eve a name.
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Now, in scripture giving
names is a sign of authority.
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For example, you
remember Nebuchadnezzar gave
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the three Hebrew
were these names.
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He was exercising his authority.
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We read in our
first presentation
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on this topic that the
Father gave Jesus a name,
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that is above every name.
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The Father is
exercising His authority
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by giving Jesus a name.
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And of course, Adam
exercised his authority by--
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over the animals
by naming the animals.
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Incidentally parents
give names to their children.
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This is an exercise
of parental authority
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because the children
come from their parents.
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So the fact that Adam
names Eve is an indication
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that Adam exercised authority
or leadership or headship
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and this took place
once again before sin.
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It has nothing
to do with culture,
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it has nothing to do with
God arrangement after the fall.
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"Even the before
the creation of woman,
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God commanded Adam
not to eat from the tree."
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He did not command Eve
not to eat from the tree.
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"There is no
indication in the story
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that God give
this command to Eve."
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The Genesis
story seems to indicate
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that Adam was expected
to relay this information
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to Eve, his wife.
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That she was not
supposed to eat from the tree.
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One Adventist pro-ordination
scholar has suggested
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that the
gender-specific requirement
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that elders must be
the husbands of one wife,
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does not anymore disqualify
woman from being elders.
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Then the tenth Commandment
excludes woman from obedience
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because God
commanded man not to covet
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and not woman but
such an argument is flawed.
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Does the fact that
the tenth Commandment
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forbids a man to
covet his neighbor's wife
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mean that it is
allowable for the wife
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to covet another woman's husband
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because it's not
specifically mentioned there.
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The idea is absurd.
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You see, in biblical thought
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when God gives a
command to the husband,
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he is expected to
teach his entire family
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to obey the commandment.
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For example, God
said this about Abraham
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and this is
found in Genesis 18:19.
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"For I have known him,
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in order that he
may command his children
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and his household after him,
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that they keep
the way of the Lord,
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to do righteousness and justice,
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that the Lord
may bring to Abraham
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what He has spoken to him."
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Did you notice here
that clearly it tells us
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that God expected
Abraham to command his children
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and his household after Him?
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God spoke to Abraham
and then Abraham relayed
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the information to his family.
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Now, it's interesting to notice
that before Adam and Eve sinned,
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Ellen White tells us the
following about the Sabbath.
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And I quote.
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"The Sabbath was
committed to Adam,
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the father and representative
of the whole human family."
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To whom did God
commit the Sabbath?
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She says very clearly,
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"The Sabbath was
committed to Adam,
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the Father and representative
of the whole human family."
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Notice that it doesn't say
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"that God committed the
Sabbath to Adam and Eve."
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The father and
mother of the human race.
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He committed it to Adam.
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Does this fact mean
that because God committed it
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to Adam that
Eve was not expected
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to obey the Sabbath commandment.
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To the contrary as the
father and the representative
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of the whole human family,
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Adam was
expected to teach his wife
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and successive generations
the meaning of the Sabbath
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and the
importance of its observance.
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So just because the
Bible doesn't tell us
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that God commanded Adam
and Eve to keep the Sabbath,
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He gives the Sabbath to Adam
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according to the
Spirit of Prophecy.
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Doesn't mean that Eve was not
required to keep the Sabbath.
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And the same idea applies
to the issue of ordination.
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Another argument
which the Apostle Paul
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uses is a post-fall argument.
00:22:26.38\00:22:28.54
You see, after the
fall the arrangement
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was still that the wife should
be subject to her husband.
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Now the Apostle Paul not
only gives pre-fall reasons
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for this but he also
gives post-fall reasons.
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Now notice what he had
to say in 1 Timothy 2:14-15.
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Here he says, "That he
does not allow the woman
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to exercise
authority over the man,
00:22:53.90\00:22:56.50
for Adam was
formed first then Eve."
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And then he explains this.
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"And Adam was not deceived,
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but the woman being deceived
fell into transgression."
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So the Apostle
Paul is now giving
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an additional post-fall reason,
00:23:11.30\00:23:13.47
why woman do not
exercise authority over a man?
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Because the woman
was enticed into sin
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and then she became
the temptress of man.
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Samuele Bacchiocchi said
something very interesting
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about this idea of
the woman being the one
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who brought sin into the world.
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I would like to read this,
it's found in Prove All Things
00:23:35.79\00:23:40.10
which is a book
that deals with issues
00:23:40.13\00:23:42.12
relating to women's
ordination, pages 83 and 84.
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Notice here what he says?
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"Adam willingly let
his wife take the lead.
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She usurped Adam's headship
and instead of being his helper
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to live as God
intended she led him into sin.
00:23:59.97\00:24:04.53
Adam failed to exercise
his spiritual leadership
00:24:04.56\00:24:08.50
by protecting Eve from
the serpent's deception,
00:24:08.53\00:24:12.22
and, on her part, Eve failed
to respect her submissive role
00:24:12.25\00:24:18.25
by standing by her husband side.
00:24:18.28\00:24:21.15
The great fault
of Adam in the Fall
00:24:21.18\00:24:23.94
was his failure to exercise his
role of spiritual leadership.
00:24:23.97\00:24:28.68
Instead of leading his wife
into obedience to God's command,
00:24:28.71\00:24:33.03
he allowed his wife to
lead him into disobedience."
00:24:33.06\00:24:37.96
Isn't that a
remarkable statement?
00:24:37.99\00:24:40.20
In other words he was supposed
to lead his wife into obedience.
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And he relinquished his
role as the head and the leader
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and he listened to her
voice and thus fell into sin.
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Now it's interesting to notice
00:24:52.60\00:24:54.02
also that after
Adam and Eve sinned,
00:24:54.05\00:24:56.79
God required an
accounting from Adam
00:24:56.82\00:25:01.08
before he required
an accounting from Eve.
00:25:01.11\00:25:04.53
You would expect God
to hold Eve accountable
00:25:04.56\00:25:07.29
because she sinned
first but it was not so.
00:25:07.32\00:25:10.31
Noteworthy is that
fact that God said to Adam
00:25:10.34\00:25:14.36
and now I read
from Genesis 3:16.
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Listen carefully.
00:25:16.97\00:25:18.08
He is saying to Adam,
00:25:18.11\00:25:19.14
"Because you have
heeded the voice of your wife
00:25:19.17\00:25:22.41
and have eaten
from the tree of which
00:25:22.44\00:25:24.47
I commanded you saying,
'You shall not eat of it.'"
00:25:24.50\00:25:28.12
Are you catching the
nuance of this verse?
00:25:28.15\00:25:30.49
God is saying to Adam, you
heard the voice of your wife.
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When you should have made sure
00:25:34.02\00:25:35.57
that your wife heard your voice.
00:25:35.60\00:25:38.14
So in other words
you listen to her command
00:25:38.17\00:25:42.14
instead of
listening to My command
00:25:42.17\00:25:44.80
and relaying
that command to her.
00:25:44.83\00:25:48.39
The insinuation seems to be
that Adam should have obeyed God
00:25:48.42\00:25:52.81
and Eve should in
turn have followed
00:25:52.84\00:25:55.26
the voice of her husband.
00:25:55.29\00:25:56.95
Instead Adam relinquished
his leadership role to his wife
00:25:56.98\00:26:02.21
by obeying her voice, which
led him into transgression.
00:26:02.24\00:26:07.43
Now this idea is
further bolstered
00:26:07.46\00:26:10.98
by God's words to Eve
after her transgression.
00:26:11.01\00:26:14.00
Now, after Eve transgressed,
this is what God said to Eve.
00:26:14.03\00:26:18.64
This is in Genesis 3:16 it says,
00:26:18.67\00:26:24.42
"Your desire shall
be for your husband.
00:26:24.45\00:26:28.03
And he shall rule over you."
00:26:28.06\00:26:31.38
Now the question
that I would like to ask
00:26:31.41\00:26:33.02
about this
statement that God gave to Eve
00:26:33.05\00:26:38.40
is whether this
arrangement was a reconfirmation
00:26:38.43\00:26:42.20
of a reality that
existed before sin
00:26:42.23\00:26:45.31
or whether this was a divine
sentence pronounced by God
00:26:45.34\00:26:48.88
upon the woman after sin?
00:26:48.91\00:26:51.53
In other words,
was it a reconfirmation
00:26:51.56\00:26:53.42
of an arrangement
that existed before
00:26:53.45\00:26:55.48
or was it a pronouncement
of a divine sentence
00:26:55.51\00:26:59.10
something negative pronounced
00:26:59.13\00:27:01.04
upon Eve after
the transgression?
00:27:01.07\00:27:04.05
In other words, was this a
less than ideal arrangement
00:27:04.08\00:27:07.98
than what existed before sin?
00:27:08.01\00:27:11.92
I believe the
answer to this question
00:27:11.95\00:27:13.85
is found in another verse
that we find in Genesis 4:7.
00:27:13.88\00:27:19.43
In Genesis 4:7 the
same two words are used
00:27:19.46\00:27:23.26
that we found in Genesis 3:16.
00:27:23.29\00:27:26.10
One is the word desire and
the other is the word rule.
00:27:26.13\00:27:31.12
Once again Genesis 3:16 says,
00:27:31.15\00:27:33.47
"Your desire shall
be for your husband
00:27:33.50\00:27:36.99
and he shall rule over you."
00:27:37.02\00:27:40.37
Now all Bible versions
that I consulted on Genesis 4:7.
00:27:40.40\00:27:46.10
And I'm going to read
from the NIV as an example.
00:27:46.13\00:27:49.80
Presents the idea
that sin is like an animal
00:27:49.83\00:27:54.12
that is crouching
and ready to attack.
00:27:54.15\00:27:57.55
In other words the idea is that
sin is wants to attacks you,
00:27:57.58\00:28:02.53
sins desire for you.
00:28:02.56\00:28:04.33
But you should rule over sin.
00:28:04.36\00:28:06.73
Listen to the way
that the NIV presents this.
00:28:06.76\00:28:09.73
It's our God is
hear speaking to Cain.
00:28:09.76\00:28:13.38
"If you that, that is
Cain do what is right,
00:28:13.41\00:28:16.74
will you not be accepted?
00:28:16.77\00:28:18.84
But if you do
not do what is right,
00:28:18.87\00:28:21.64
sin is crouching at your door.
00:28:21.67\00:28:25.00
It desires to have you,
but you must master it."
00:28:25.03\00:28:29.98
Are you seeing what God--
According to this translation
00:28:30.01\00:28:32.79
what God is saying to Cain?
00:28:32.82\00:28:34.78
What God is saying to Cain is,
sin has the desire to catch you,
00:28:34.81\00:28:39.78
but you should rule over sin.
00:28:39.81\00:28:42.29
In other words the NIV
as well as other version
00:28:42.32\00:28:45.44
actually personify
sin as a crouching animal,
00:28:45.47\00:28:49.13
desiring to dominate Cain.
00:28:49.16\00:28:51.11
But Cain is
instructed to rule over sin.
00:28:51.14\00:28:55.19
Now Ellen White begs to
differ in this interpretation.
00:28:55.22\00:29:00.48
Her explanation
is more contextual
00:29:00.51\00:29:03.52
and makes more sense than what
all of the translations provide.
00:29:03.55\00:29:09.65
I like to read Ellen
White's comment on this.
00:29:09.68\00:29:13.15
It's found in Bible
Echo, April 8, 1912.
00:29:13.18\00:29:18.46
It's interesting how Ellen
White not always went along
00:29:18.49\00:29:21.99
with the translations
and the commentators.
00:29:22.02\00:29:24.40
Sometimes she presented
things that were unique.
00:29:24.43\00:29:27.31
Now listen to the
explanation that she gives.
00:29:27.34\00:29:31.05
"Abel's offering
has been accepted
00:29:31.08\00:29:34.09
but this was because
he had done in particular
00:29:34.12\00:29:37.58
as God required him to do.
00:29:37.61\00:29:40.27
If Cain would correct his error,
00:29:40.30\00:29:43.61
he would not be
deprived of his birthright.
00:29:43.64\00:29:47.43
Abel, listen carefully,
00:29:47.46\00:29:49.50
Abel would not only
love him as his brother,
00:29:49.53\00:29:54.47
but as the younger, would be
subject to him." Interesting.
00:29:54.50\00:30:00.69
Once again, "Abel would not
only love him as his brother."
00:30:00.72\00:30:05.06
In other words, his
desire would be for his brother.
00:30:05.09\00:30:08.43
"But as the younger he
would be subject to him."
00:30:08.46\00:30:12.66
Now, you might be
wondering whether Ellen White
00:30:12.69\00:30:14.71
is commenting on Genesis 4:7.
00:30:14.74\00:30:16.93
She finishes the
quotation by saying,
00:30:16.96\00:30:18.90
"Thus the Lord declared to Cain,
00:30:18.93\00:30:21.83
"Unto thee shall be his
desire, that is Abel's desire,
00:30:21.86\00:30:26.61
and thou shalt rule over him,
00:30:26.64\00:30:28.87
that is over Abel
because you are older."
00:30:28.90\00:30:32.51
Are you understanding me?
00:30:32.54\00:30:34.09
And so you have this
same idea that the reason
00:30:34.12\00:30:37.68
why the man was to
exercise leadership or authority
00:30:37.71\00:30:41.96
over the woman was because
00:30:41.99\00:30:43.40
the woman was
younger than the man.
00:30:43.43\00:30:46.32
Now you find here that after sin
you have the same arrangement.
00:30:46.35\00:30:50.65
God is saying in
other words to Cain listen.
00:30:50.68\00:30:53.88
If you do what is right,
00:30:53.91\00:30:57.08
Abel's desire is
going to be for you.
00:30:57.11\00:30:59.30
His love is going to be for you.
00:30:59.33\00:31:01.11
And he is going to
allow you to rule over him
00:31:01.14\00:31:04.29
because you are
older and he is what?
00:31:04.32\00:31:07.50
And he is younger.
00:31:07.53\00:31:09.77
What a beautiful
explanation of the text.
00:31:09.80\00:31:13.14
By the way as I mentioned before
00:31:13.17\00:31:14.81
this lends support
to Paul's statement
00:31:14.84\00:31:18.35
that before the fall
Adam was to rule over his wife
00:31:18.38\00:31:22.31
because he was
created first and then Eve.
00:31:22.34\00:31:26.38
In other words, he was
older and she was younger.
00:31:26.41\00:31:29.71
On the other hand Eve was to
lovingly submit to her husband
00:31:29.74\00:31:34.12
because he was
older and she was younger.
00:31:34.15\00:31:36.96
Thus the older,
younger issue comes into view
00:31:36.99\00:31:40.50
both before and after sin.
00:31:40.53\00:31:43.30
And provides one
rational for female submission.
00:31:43.33\00:31:48.80
Notably, this
story of Cain and Abel
00:31:48.83\00:31:51.82
transpired long before
the patriarchal period.
00:31:51.85\00:31:55.47
Because some people
argue, some scholars say,
00:31:55.50\00:31:57.74
well, you know, in
the time of the patriarchs
00:31:57.77\00:31:59.90
you have the wife
subjective to the husband
00:31:59.93\00:32:01.79
but we don't live in
patriarchal times anymore.
00:32:01.82\00:32:04.18
But you have this idea
already in prepatriarchal times,
00:32:04.21\00:32:07.88
in early human history.
00:32:07.91\00:32:10.38
So this story transpired long
before the patriarchal period.
00:32:10.41\00:32:14.69
Since, the very
beginning of history
00:32:14.72\00:32:16.83
the younger son was to
be ruled by the older son.
00:32:16.86\00:32:20.55
And Adam, who was created first
00:32:20.58\00:32:22.83
was to rule over his
wife, who was created second.
00:32:22.86\00:32:26.67
As stated before,
this does not mean
00:32:26.70\00:32:29.36
that the woman was
ontologically inferior to man.
00:32:29.39\00:32:33.43
Just as Abel was not
ontologically inferior to Cain.
00:32:33.46\00:32:37.86
Was Abel inferior to Cain?
00:32:37.89\00:32:40.08
Was he equal to Cain in status?
00:32:40.11\00:32:42.31
Was he equal as a child of God?
00:32:42.34\00:32:44.68
Was he equal in value?
00:32:44.71\00:32:46.18
Of course, he was, but
he owed respect to Cain
00:32:46.21\00:32:50.24
because Cain was
his older brother.
00:32:50.27\00:32:53.48
That is if Cain
did what was right.
00:32:53.51\00:32:56.56
Another evidence that
man was to exercise authority
00:32:56.59\00:33:00.73
over a woman
specifically in marriage
00:33:00.76\00:33:03.52
is because even after sin
Adam once again named his wife.
00:33:03.55\00:33:09.49
In Genesis 3:20 we
find this statement.
00:33:09.52\00:33:13.91
"Adam named his wife Eve,
00:33:13.94\00:33:17.21
because she would become
the mother of all living."
00:33:17.24\00:33:22.02
So once again you have man
naming the woman before sin
00:33:22.05\00:33:26.11
and you have man naming Eve
00:33:26.14\00:33:29.14
after the
entrance of sin as well.
00:33:29.17\00:33:32.91
Another evidence
that man was to exercise
00:33:32.94\00:33:36.71
the headship role is
found in 1 Corinthians 11:3,
00:33:36.74\00:33:42.95
where the Apostle
Paul says clearly.
00:33:42.98\00:33:45.39
"God is the head of Christ,
Christ is the head of man
00:33:45.42\00:33:50.24
and the man is the
head of the woman."
00:33:50.27\00:33:53.13
Now, how could a text
be clearer than this one?
00:33:53.16\00:33:56.61
Once again, God
is the head Christ.
00:33:56.64\00:33:59.23
Does Christ have
a problem with that?
00:33:59.26\00:34:01.55
No. And then it says,
Christ is the head of the man.
00:34:01.58\00:34:05.75
Should the man have
any problem with that?
00:34:05.78\00:34:08.26
No. The man is
the head of woman.
00:34:08.29\00:34:11.09
Should the woman have
any problem with that?
00:34:11.12\00:34:13.30
No. Probably, a
better translation would be,
00:34:13.33\00:34:17.27
that the husband is
the head of the wife
00:34:17.30\00:34:19.90
because it's referring primarily
to the marriage relationship.
00:34:19.93\00:34:24.40
Now you notice that the
Apostle Paul doesn't say here
00:34:24.43\00:34:27.32
that man was the
head of the woman
00:34:27.35\00:34:30.50
until Jesus died on the cross.
00:34:30.53\00:34:32.52
This is being
written long after the cross.
00:34:32.55\00:34:34.96
And Paul is saying here that
man is the head of the woman
00:34:34.99\00:34:39.91
when he wrote the
book of 1 Corinthians.
00:34:39.94\00:34:43.91
Now some women's
ordination lobbyist
00:34:43.94\00:34:46.37
and I never ceased to
be amazed at how those
00:34:46.40\00:34:48.70
who are in favor
of women's ordinations
00:34:48.73\00:34:50.72
will twist the
scriptures and meanings of words
00:34:50.75\00:34:54.03
to square with their belief.
00:34:54.06\00:34:56.55
Some women's ordination lobbyist
00:34:56.58\00:34:58.80
have attempted to soften
or even eliminate the idea
00:34:58.83\00:35:03.42
that the husband is
the head of the wife.
00:35:03.45\00:35:05.82
By arguing that the word
head doesn't really mean head,
00:35:05.85\00:35:09.40
it means source or origin.
00:35:09.43\00:35:12.60
Let me give an example.
Perhaps some extreme example.
00:35:12.63\00:35:15.35
But it shows how the
scriptures many times
00:35:15.38\00:35:18.29
are twisted to fit
a preconceived motion.
00:35:18.32\00:35:21.59
Somebody sent me paper that was
written by a seminary student
00:35:21.62\00:35:25.29
and this seminary student said
00:35:25.32\00:35:26.89
the word head doesn't
mean head, it means completion.
00:35:26.92\00:35:30.95
And this is how she explained
the meaning of the word head.
00:35:30.98\00:35:35.58
And I'm reading where it says,
00:35:35.61\00:35:38.02
that the man is
the head of the woman,
00:35:38.05\00:35:40.85
from the writings
of the Apostle Paul.
00:35:40.88\00:35:42.94
She says, "As
Christ is the enabler,
00:35:42.97\00:35:47.40
(the one who
brings the completion),
00:35:47.43\00:35:49.23
she puts in
parenthesis of the church.
00:35:49.26\00:35:52.05
So the husband is to enable
that is to bring to completion
00:35:52.08\00:35:56.39
all that his
wife is meant to be."
00:35:56.42\00:36:00.34
Now the interesting thing is,
00:36:00.37\00:36:01.51
this is very novel
private interpretation.
00:36:01.54\00:36:04.45
It's what people call eisegesis.
00:36:04.48\00:36:07.20
It's reading into the
text what is not there.
00:36:07.23\00:36:10.53
The fact is the Bible
tells us that the woman
00:36:10.56\00:36:13.06
was created to enable the man,
00:36:13.09\00:36:15.18
not the man to enable the woman.
00:36:15.21\00:36:18.25
By the way, not a single Bible
version translates it that way.
00:36:18.28\00:36:22.27
And not a single
lexicon that I consulted
00:36:22.30\00:36:25.42
which is a
dictionary has any inkling
00:36:25.45\00:36:29.83
that this means completion
or it means to enable.
00:36:29.86\00:36:33.08
It is a private interpretation.
00:36:33.11\00:36:36.00
Incidentally, in all other
texts where the Apostle Paul
00:36:36.03\00:36:39.44
uses the word head which
is the Greek word Kephale,
00:36:39.47\00:36:42.79
it means authority
or it means headship.
00:36:42.82\00:36:46.64
You can check for
example, Ephesians 1:22,
00:36:46.67\00:36:49.85
Ephesians 5;23-24,
Galatians 118 also 2:10,
00:36:49.88\00:36:55.94
1 Peter 2:7 and
there are other texts
00:36:55.97\00:36:58.71
that clearly show that the word
head means exactly that, head.
00:36:58.74\00:37:04.18
Once again I
say that Bible words
00:37:04.21\00:37:06.42
should not be
treated like Play-Doh
00:37:06.45\00:37:09.09
that could be
molded to take the shape
00:37:09.12\00:37:11.81
that the
interpreter wishes them to have.
00:37:11.84\00:37:14.70
Now interestingly
enough the Apostle Paul
00:37:14.73\00:37:17.39
sometimes uses the
word head or kephale
00:37:17.42\00:37:20.66
with another Greek word which
is the Greek word hupostasso
00:37:20.69\00:37:24.60
which is translated submit.
00:37:24.63\00:37:26.59
Head and submit are
used very frequently
00:37:26.62\00:37:29.19
by Paul together in passages.
00:37:29.22\00:37:32.19
Let me give you one example.
00:37:32.22\00:37:34.37
Ephesians 5:22-24,
00:37:34.40\00:37:38.41
Ephesians 5:22-24.
00:37:38.44\00:37:41.87
"Wives submit,
that's the word hupostasso
00:37:41.90\00:37:46.82
to your own
husbands, as to the Lord.
00:37:46.85\00:37:50.28
For the husband is
the head of the wife."
00:37:50.31\00:37:52.68
That's the word kephale,
is the head of the wife,
00:37:52.71\00:37:55.80
a also Christ is the head
or the kephale of the church,
00:37:55.83\00:38:00.30
and He is the
Savior of the body.
00:38:00.33\00:38:02.92
Therefore, just as
the church is subject,
00:38:02.95\00:38:05.48
that's the same
word hupotosso to Christ,
00:38:05.51\00:38:08.84
so let the wise
be subject, hupotosso
00:38:08.87\00:38:12.16
to their own
husbands in everything."
00:38:12.19\00:38:15.52
Now I looked up the
meaning of the word hupostasso
00:38:15.55\00:38:18.31
which is the word
submit in Greek lexicons.
00:38:18.34\00:38:21.78
And this is the definition.
00:38:21.81\00:38:23.51
It means to be subject, to
subordinate or to put under.
00:38:23.54\00:38:29.65
The Jewish Bible
commentary makes a good point
00:38:29.68\00:38:33.67
and I'd like to read what the
Jewish Bible commentary says.
00:38:33.70\00:38:37.84
"If Jesus does not find
00:38:37.87\00:38:39.78
the headship of
the father demeaning
00:38:39.81\00:38:42.46
and if the man does not consider
the headship of Jesus demeaning,
00:38:42.49\00:38:46.95
then wives should
not find the headships
00:38:46.98\00:38:49.58
of their husbands
demeaning either."
00:38:49.61\00:38:53.14
The fundamental problem folks
is that in this sinful world,
00:38:53.17\00:38:57.56
we consider
subjection as a negative thing.
00:38:57.59\00:39:01.40
We consider that those who
submit or subject themselves
00:39:01.43\00:39:04.61
to the authority of
another are inferior.
00:39:04.64\00:39:08.97
If this were the case as we
mentioned in our first study,
00:39:09.00\00:39:13.00
the subjection of
Jesus to His Father
00:39:13.03\00:39:15.88
would means that Jesus
is inferior to His Father.
00:39:15.91\00:39:19.74
But we're told in scripture
00:39:19.77\00:39:21.26
that Jesus will
subjected himself to His father
00:39:21.29\00:39:24.07
even after sin is
eradicated from the universe.
00:39:24.10\00:39:28.16
You see, in scripture subjection
00:39:28.19\00:39:30.96
is presented in
a positive light.
00:39:30.99\00:39:33.70
To submit to the
divine order is sublimed,
00:39:33.73\00:39:37.71
to refuse to submit to
the divine order is rebellion.
00:39:37.74\00:39:42.07
And of course,
that's how sin originated.
00:39:42.10\00:39:45.98
Now in other ways and
why we can see clearly
00:39:46.01\00:39:49.74
that God established
an order of the woman
00:39:49.77\00:39:53.47
being subject to
the man is the fact
00:39:53.50\00:39:56.29
that even though Eve
committed the first sin.
00:39:56.32\00:40:00.15
The Bible tells us that
God held Adam accountable
00:40:00.18\00:40:04.73
for the entrance
of sin into the world.
00:40:04.76\00:40:08.28
You know, when you
go to Romans 5:12-21
00:40:08.31\00:40:12.92
Jesus is spoken as
the second Eve, right?
00:40:12.95\00:40:18.05
What is Jesus spoken of?
00:40:18.08\00:40:20.34
As the second Adam.
00:40:20.37\00:40:21.75
Now wouldn't
Jesus be the second Eve,
00:40:21.78\00:40:24.17
if Eve sinned first.
00:40:24.20\00:40:25.68
It must be that God held
account Adam accountable for sin
00:40:25.71\00:40:30.05
because Adam was at
the head of the human race.
00:40:30.08\00:40:33.16
There is no other explanation
that can be used for this
00:40:33.19\00:40:37.04
because Christ
is the second Adam.
00:40:37.07\00:40:40.12
Jesus is at the
head of the human race
00:40:40.15\00:40:43.12
as the second Adam as Adam
00:40:43.15\00:40:45.55
was at the head of the human
race at the very beginning.
00:40:45.58\00:40:49.46
Now there is one more
point that I would like to make
00:40:49.49\00:40:52.18
and that is that scripture
informs us that a height,
00:40:52.21\00:40:59.38
physical height matters
00:40:59.41\00:41:01.61
and the Spirit of
Prophecy confirms this point.
00:41:01.64\00:41:04.83
Now let me ask you how tall was
Eve in her relationship to Adam?
00:41:04.86\00:41:11.46
Well, in Signs of the
Times, January 9, 1879,
00:41:11.49\00:41:16.69
we're told something
about the height of Eve
00:41:16.72\00:41:19.55
as compared to Adam.
00:41:19.58\00:41:20.83
We're talking about
physical height now.
00:41:20.86\00:41:23.82
This is what
Ellen White explains.
00:41:23.85\00:41:26.20
Eve was not
quite as tall as Adam.
00:41:26.23\00:41:30.34
Her head reached a
little above his shoulders."
00:41:30.37\00:41:35.26
Now you'll say, are
you saying that height
00:41:35.29\00:41:36.87
makes the difference
when it comes to authority?
00:41:36.90\00:41:39.75
It's exactly what I'm saying.
00:41:39.78\00:41:41.69
And you'll say,
well, how do you know that?
00:41:41.72\00:41:44.50
Let me just give
you some examples
00:41:44.53\00:41:47.12
from the Spirit of Prophecy
about how this issue of height
00:41:47.15\00:41:53.56
has to do with authority
and has to do with headship.
00:41:53.59\00:41:58.49
Now, do you know that
Ellen White in her writings says
00:41:58.52\00:42:01.85
that angels have
different heights.
00:42:01.88\00:42:05.22
She speaks of
tall commanding angels
00:42:05.25\00:42:08.48
being a the top of
the chain of command
00:42:08.51\00:42:12.06
having authority over
physically shorter angels.
00:42:12.09\00:42:15.67
You say is that possible?
00:42:15.70\00:42:17.36
Let me read you some statements.
00:42:17.39\00:42:19.83
In volume 1 of
Spirit of Prophecy page 23,
00:42:19.86\00:42:23.23
Ellen White is
speaking about when Lucifer
00:42:23.26\00:42:25.38
prepared to war against Christ.
00:42:25.41\00:42:28.38
She says, "The angels
were marshaled in companies,
00:42:28.41\00:42:33.06
each division with a higher
commanding angel at their head."
00:42:33.09\00:42:41.20
Interesting. Here is
another interesting statement.
00:42:41.23\00:42:44.62
This is concerning
when Jesus was arrested
00:42:44.65\00:42:47.93
in the Garden of Gethsemane,
the mob came to arrest Him.
00:42:47.96\00:42:51.98
And in Early Writings
168, Ellen White explains,
00:42:52.01\00:42:56.19
"Many companies of holy angels,
00:42:56.22\00:42:58.61
each with a tall
commanding angel at their head,
00:42:58.64\00:43:03.26
were sent to witness the scene."
00:43:03.29\00:43:06.91
And Ellen White
tells us as God's people
00:43:06.94\00:43:08.86
are crying out for
deliverance at the end of time.
00:43:08.89\00:43:12.44
During the time
of Jacobs's trouble,
00:43:12.47\00:43:14.67
the angels whizzed
to deliver God's people.
00:43:14.70\00:43:18.32
But she explains, "But a tall,
00:43:18.35\00:43:20.96
commanding angle
suffered them not.
00:43:20.99\00:43:23.86
He said, "The will of
God is not yet fulfilled.
00:43:23.89\00:43:27.15
They must drink of the cup.
00:43:27.18\00:43:28.99
They must be
baptized with the baptism."
00:43:29.02\00:43:31.95
And Ellen White
explains at the height
00:43:31.98\00:43:34.02
that Jesus is head
over shoulders above
00:43:34.05\00:43:37.69
even the commanding
angels because of His position.
00:43:37.72\00:43:42.38
So the fact that Eve was created
00:43:42.41\00:43:45.54
shorter than
Adam has significance.
00:43:45.57\00:43:48.47
Now we wouldn't apply that today
00:43:48.50\00:43:50.09
because in the course of
sin height makes no difference,
00:43:50.12\00:43:54.10
but if man had not sinned,
00:43:54.13\00:43:56.87
this arrangement
would have continued
00:43:56.90\00:43:59.28
as Adam and Eve procreated.
00:43:59.31\00:44:02.84
Now I'd like to also share with
you Ellen White's testimony,
00:44:02.87\00:44:05.93
is this clear up to
what we studied so far?
00:44:05.96\00:44:08.05
Are there sufficient
evidences in scriptures
00:44:08.08\00:44:10.58
for what we were studying?
00:44:10.61\00:44:11.64
I believe that there is
an abundance of evidence.
00:44:11.67\00:44:13.75
Now let's take a
look at a few things
00:44:13.78\00:44:16.36
that Ellen White has to tell us
00:44:16.39\00:44:18.63
about female
submission and male headship.
00:44:18.66\00:44:24.10
And let's find out
if this arrangement
00:44:24.13\00:44:25.92
ended at the cross or
whether it's still exists
00:44:25.95\00:44:29.32
in the family
relationship today.
00:44:29.35\00:44:31.45
And then we are
going to study also
00:44:31.48\00:44:33.84
whether this arrangement spills
over into the church as well.
00:44:33.87\00:44:38.68
I'd like to read from
Counsels to the Church,
00:44:38.71\00:44:41.32
pages 145 and 146.
00:44:41.35\00:44:45.12
Here Ellen White explains,
00:44:45.15\00:44:47.03
"The Lord has
constituted the husband,
00:44:47.06\00:44:50.94
the head of the wife
to be her protector."
00:44:50.97\00:44:54.55
So did these arrangements
come to an end at the cross?
00:44:54.58\00:44:58.26
Of course not, Ellen
White is writing this
00:44:58.29\00:45:00.23
2000 years after the cross.
00:45:00.26\00:45:02.51
And she is saying, "The Lord
has constituted the husband,
00:45:02.54\00:45:05.10
the head of the
wife to be her protector;
00:45:05.13\00:45:09.13
he is the
house-band of the family,
00:45:09.16\00:45:12.52
binding the members together,
00:45:12.55\00:45:14.57
even as Christ is
the head of the church
00:45:14.60\00:45:17.02
and the Savior of
the mystical body.
00:45:17.05\00:45:19.95
Let every husband
who claims to love God
00:45:19.98\00:45:23.41
carefully study the requirements
of God in his position.
00:45:23.44\00:45:28.58
Christ's authority
is exercised in wisdom
00:45:28.61\00:45:32.02
in all kindness and gentleness."
00:45:32.05\00:45:34.16
Now did you hear that how
Jesus exercises His authority,
00:45:34.19\00:45:37.48
how does He do it?
00:45:37.51\00:45:38.77
With an iron fist
trampling on people. No.
00:45:38.80\00:45:42.24
Christ authority
is exercising wisdom
00:45:42.27\00:45:44.84
in all kindness and gentleness.
00:45:44.87\00:45:47.27
"So let the
husband exercise his power
00:45:47.30\00:45:51.75
and imitate the
great head of the church.
00:45:51.78\00:45:54.96
So it applies to Christ,
00:45:54.99\00:45:56.77
applies also in the relationship
of husbands to wives.
00:45:56.80\00:46:01.74
But at the same time Ellen White
00:46:01.77\00:46:04.20
warned husbands
not to overdo it.
00:46:04.23\00:46:07.80
And not to brag about
their position of authority.
00:46:07.83\00:46:11.19
In the book
Acts of the Apostles,
00:46:11.22\00:46:13.08
page 360 Ellen
White had this to say.
00:46:13.11\00:46:17.24
"It is no evidence of
manliness in the husband for him
00:46:17.27\00:46:22.36
to dwell constantly upon his
position as head of the family."
00:46:22.39\00:46:27.69
See Ellen White has
a balancing statement.
00:46:27.72\00:46:30.02
She says just
because he is the head,
00:46:30.05\00:46:31.36
it doesn't mean
that he is always saying,
00:46:31.39\00:46:33.33
hey probably
needed, I'm the head,
00:46:33.36\00:46:35.28
don't you forget it.
I'm the one who decides.
00:46:35.31\00:46:37.46
No, Ellen White
says we don't do that.
00:46:37.49\00:46:39.95
And so once again she says
00:46:39.98\00:46:41.54
"It is no evidence of
manliness in the husband for him
00:46:41.57\00:46:44.65
to dwell constantly upon his
position as head of the family.
00:46:44.68\00:46:48.84
It does not
increase respect for him
00:46:48.87\00:46:51.44
to hear him quoting Scripture
00:46:51.47\00:46:53.53
to sustain his
claims to authority.
00:46:53.56\00:46:56.62
It will not make him
more manly to require his wife
00:46:56.65\00:47:00.37
the mother of his
children to act upon his plans
00:47:00.40\00:47:04.04
as if they were infallible."
00:47:04.07\00:47:07.24
So Ellen White
makes it very clear that
00:47:07.27\00:47:09.20
just because
the man is the head,
00:47:09.23\00:47:11.18
it doesn't mean that
he becomes a dictator.
00:47:11.21\00:47:13.83
She says in wisdom, in all
kindness and in gentleness.
00:47:13.86\00:47:19.55
And folks, if the
husband love the wife
00:47:19.58\00:47:23.67
and was willing to
give himself for her,
00:47:23.70\00:47:26.47
the wife would have
absolutely no problem
00:47:26.50\00:47:28.39
submitting to the respectful
authority of the husband.
00:47:28.42\00:47:33.86
Now what is the role
of husbands and wives?
00:47:33.89\00:47:37.74
I like to read from
the Seventh-day Adventist
00:47:37.77\00:47:39.63
Bible commentary,
volume 1 page 1082.
00:47:39.66\00:47:46.05
Here Ellen White
explains clearly the position
00:47:46.08\00:47:49.10
that God created Adam to occupy.
00:47:49.13\00:47:52.31
This is what she says.
"Adam was crowned king in Eden."
00:47:52.34\00:47:58.01
What was Adam's position?
00:47:58.04\00:47:59.93
King, notice it doesn't say
God made Adam and Eve kings.
00:47:59.96\00:48:04.57
It says, "Adam was crowned
king in Eden to him not to them.
00:48:04.60\00:48:10.91
To him was given
dominion over every living thing
00:48:10.94\00:48:14.82
that God had created.
00:48:14.85\00:48:16.39
The Lord blessed Adam
and Eve with intelligence
00:48:16.42\00:48:18.91
such as he not given
to any other creature.
00:48:18.94\00:48:21.69
He made Adam the
rightful sovereign
00:48:21.72\00:48:25.22
over all the
works of His hands."
00:48:25.25\00:48:29.37
In another statement in
Counsels to Teachers, page 33,
00:48:29.40\00:48:33.16
Ellen White
explains, "Under God,
00:48:33.19\00:48:36.12
Adam was to stand at the
head of the earthly family,
00:48:36.15\00:48:40.36
to maintain the principles
of the heavenly family.
00:48:40.39\00:48:43.43
This would have
brought peace and happiness."
00:48:43.46\00:48:47.22
Now somebody might be thinking.
00:48:47.25\00:48:49.06
Well, Pastor Bohr,
what Ellen White says
00:48:49.09\00:48:51.57
is at odds with scripture.
00:48:51.60\00:48:53.99
Because Ellen White says that
God crowned Adam king in Eden
00:48:54.02\00:48:58.76
and he made Adam
the rightful servant
00:48:58.79\00:49:01.10
and he gave Adam dominion
00:49:01.13\00:49:03.14
but the Bible says that
God also gave Eve dominion.
00:49:03.17\00:49:07.71
So how do you
explain that it says
00:49:07.74\00:49:09.40
that God placed Adam as
king and gave Adam dominion
00:49:09.43\00:49:13.53
when the Bible says that
God gave Eve dominion as well?
00:49:13.56\00:49:17.95
The answer is that they
were both given dominion
00:49:17.98\00:49:22.08
but they each had their
legitimate steer of dominion.
00:49:22.11\00:49:27.74
You see, in ancient
nations there was a king
00:49:27.77\00:49:31.42
and there was queen.
00:49:31.45\00:49:33.63
Both of them ruled together.
00:49:33.66\00:49:35.92
But where did the buck stop.
00:49:35.95\00:49:38.21
The buck stopped with the king.
00:49:38.24\00:49:40.92
Now, an analogous situation
can be seen in the relationship
00:49:40.95\00:49:45.57
between the God the
Father and Jesus Christ.
00:49:45.60\00:49:48.73
When probation
closes, listen carefully
00:49:48.76\00:49:51.00
when probation closes,
we are told in the Bible
00:49:51.03\00:49:54.28
that the kingdoms of
the world will belong
00:49:54.31\00:49:56.92
to both the Father and Son.
00:49:56.95\00:49:59.17
That's Revelation 11:15,
"The kingdoms of the world
00:49:59.20\00:50:02.99
had become the kingdom
of God and of his Christ."
00:50:03.02\00:50:07.70
And yet we've already
noticed in our previous study
00:50:07.73\00:50:10.90
that in eternity, the Father is
going to be the head of Christ
00:50:10.93\00:50:15.67
and Jesus is going to be subject
to the authority of His Father.
00:50:15.70\00:50:19.40
And so how is it
possible that both of them
00:50:19.43\00:50:21.82
are going to takeover
the dominion and the kingdom
00:50:21.85\00:50:24.40
and yet one of them
is subject to the other.
00:50:24.43\00:50:26.56
It must be that they
exercise different roles.
00:50:26.59\00:50:30.06
Are you following me or not.
00:50:30.09\00:50:31.87
So the question is.
00:50:31.90\00:50:33.11
What is the
wife's realm of dominion
00:50:33.14\00:50:35.80
and what is the
husband's realm of dominion?
00:50:35.83\00:50:38.96
What are their roles
or functions in dominion?
00:50:38.99\00:50:43.88
Ellen White in a very
interesting statement have this
00:50:43.91\00:50:48.92
to say, speaking
about the mother, she says,
00:50:48.95\00:50:51.36
"The mother may preside in her
family as queen in her domain,
00:50:51.39\00:50:59.31
her household
being her kingdom."
00:50:59.34\00:51:03.43
Isn't that interesting?
00:51:03.46\00:51:05.38
So as the woman
given dominion too?
00:51:05.41\00:51:08.03
What was the
realm of her dominion?
00:51:08.06\00:51:10.88
Her household.
00:51:10.91\00:51:12.45
And let me ask
you, what was her role,
00:51:12.48\00:51:15.81
her role was to be what.
The mother in the household.
00:51:15.84\00:51:20.90
You know, it's
more than interesting
00:51:20.93\00:51:23.14
to notice this statement
00:51:23.17\00:51:25.26
that I just read with
in its broader context.
00:51:25.29\00:51:28.20
This statement
where Ellen White states
00:51:28.23\00:51:30.16
the mother may preside in her
family as queen in her domain,
00:51:30.19\00:51:34.47
her household being her kingdom.
00:51:34.50\00:51:36.76
Actually, it's from
an article that she wrote
00:51:36.79\00:51:39.85
which is titled
proper education.
00:51:39.88\00:51:43.33
You know, as I read
this article in the moment
00:51:43.36\00:51:45.21
I'm going to share
with you a few paragraphs
00:51:45.24\00:51:48.63
from this
article that she wrote.
00:51:48.66\00:51:50.56
I couldn't help but
think that many women
00:51:50.59\00:51:53.02
who would read this today
00:51:53.05\00:51:54.67
would find Ellen
White's remarks outdated
00:51:54.70\00:51:58.05
and downright
archaic and prehistoric.
00:51:58.08\00:52:01.67
They would also
undoubtedly disagree
00:52:01.70\00:52:04.72
with Ellen White's
definition of women's rights.
00:52:04.75\00:52:07.69
Because she uses that expression
women's rights time and again.
00:52:07.72\00:52:11.58
But upon serious reflection
Ellen White's description
00:52:11.61\00:52:15.24
of the role of the
wife fits perfectly
00:52:15.27\00:52:18.25
with God's original
plan for the human family.
00:52:18.28\00:52:21.62
Allow me to read you paragraph
as we draw this to a close
00:52:21.65\00:52:25.42
and we'll pickup on
this in our next lecture.
00:52:25.45\00:52:28.87
She says this, "I have
observed a great deficiency
00:52:28.90\00:52:33.39
in so called educated ladies."
00:52:33.42\00:52:37.58
Ha, she continues saying,
00:52:37.61\00:52:40.19
"They may have
graduated with honors
00:52:40.22\00:52:43.61
but are shamefully deficient
in the practical duties of life.
00:52:43.64\00:52:48.45
They are destitute of
the qualifications necessary
00:52:48.48\00:52:51.76
for the proper regulation
and happiness of the family."
00:52:51.79\00:52:56.19
Is that the domain,
the kingdom? Absolutely.
00:52:56.22\00:52:59.16
She continues saying,
"They may talk of woman's
00:52:59.19\00:53:03.48
elevated sphere
and of her rights,
00:53:03.51\00:53:07.15
while they themselves sink far
below the true sphere of woman.
00:53:07.18\00:53:13.08
God designed that woman
should become intelligent
00:53:13.11\00:53:15.75
in the most
essential duties of life.
00:53:15.78\00:53:18.41
But very many in the scale
of knowledge and efficiency
00:53:18.44\00:53:21.91
are even below
their hired servants.
00:53:21.94\00:53:25.21
It is the right of every
daughter of Eve in our land
00:53:25.24\00:53:28.76
to be thoroughly
educated in household duties,
00:53:28.79\00:53:32.28
having a knowledge
of all the branches
00:53:32.31\00:53:34.41
of practical life
in domestic labor.
00:53:34.44\00:53:37.42
She may preside in her family."
00:53:37.45\00:53:39.26
Here is the
statement in its context,
00:53:39.29\00:53:41.35
"She may preside in her
family as queen in her domain,
00:53:41.38\00:53:46.06
her household being her kingdom.
00:53:46.09\00:53:49.10
She should be fully competent
to direct her servants."
00:53:49.13\00:53:53.10
She says "It is a
woman's right to be qualified
00:53:53.13\00:53:56.55
to direct the
expanding minds of her children.
00:53:56.58\00:53:59.80
It is her right to have
understanding of her own
00:53:59.83\00:54:03.35
and her children's
organisms that she may know
00:54:03.38\00:54:06.12
how to treat her
children, and save them
00:54:06.15\00:54:08.54
from the poisons
of doctor's drugs.
00:54:08.57\00:54:11.38
She may adore
her gracious creator
00:54:11.41\00:54:13.36
as she
contemplates how beautifully
00:54:13.39\00:54:15.23
and simply nature
carries on her work
00:54:15.26\00:54:17.83
when she is not interfered with.
00:54:17.86\00:54:20.08
She may have an
intelligent nurse
00:54:20.11\00:54:21.82
and a physician of
her own dear children
00:54:21.85\00:54:24.85
instead of leaving
their precious lives
00:54:24.88\00:54:27.25
in the hands of
stranger physicians
00:54:27.28\00:54:29.59
to be drugged to death.
00:54:29.62\00:54:31.62
It is the woman's right to know
00:54:31.65\00:54:33.69
how to regulate her own habits
and those of her children,
00:54:33.72\00:54:37.15
in diet and dress, in
exercise and in domestic duties,
00:54:37.18\00:54:41.53
and employment in the open air
00:54:41.56\00:54:43.55
in relations to
life and health."
00:54:43.58\00:54:46.10
This is an important domain,
this is important kingdom,
00:54:46.13\00:54:49.18
the world would
not be as messed up
00:54:49.21\00:54:50.92
as it is if the
roles had been respected.
00:54:50.95\00:54:53.75
She continue saying,
"Many mothers do not take
00:54:53.78\00:54:57.81
half the interest
in the constitutional
00:54:57.84\00:55:00.47
wants of their children
that the intelligent farmer
00:55:00.50\00:55:03.88
shows to the brutes around him.
00:55:03.91\00:55:07.43
It is a woman's
right to look after
00:55:07.46\00:55:10.12
the interest of her husband."
00:55:10.15\00:55:11.54
All have mercy now.
She's into meddling.
00:55:11.57\00:55:15.25
"It is woman's right
to look after the interest
00:55:15.28\00:55:17.72
of her husband to have
a care for his wardrobe
00:55:17.75\00:55:21.82
and to seek to make him
happy. It is her right."
00:55:21.85\00:55:26.33
Does she say it is her
right quite a bit or absolutely.
00:55:26.36\00:55:30.04
"It is her right to
improve her mind and manners,
00:55:30.07\00:55:33.46
to be social,
cheerful and happy,
00:55:33.49\00:55:36.64
shedding sunshine in her family,
00:55:36.67\00:55:39.20
and making it a little heaven.
00:55:39.23\00:55:41.59
And she may have an interest
for more than me and mind.
00:55:41.62\00:55:46.09
She should consider that
society has claims upon her."
00:55:46.12\00:55:51.57
What a powerful statement
about the role of the woman.
00:55:51.60\00:55:55.86
Does the woman have dominion?
00:55:55.89\00:55:58.10
You better believe she
does. Does she have a kingdom?
00:55:58.13\00:56:01.51
Yes, she does have a kingdom
00:56:01.54\00:56:03.51
with which no
one should interfere.
00:56:03.54\00:56:07.43
You see Ellen White held
that the duties of the mother
00:56:07.46\00:56:12.88
are so important and I
quote that they're most sacred,
00:56:12.91\00:56:17.90
more holy than those of men.
00:56:17.93\00:56:21.63
But she also says
that men and women
00:56:21.66\00:56:24.58
husbands, and wives
have distinctive duties
00:56:24.61\00:56:28.47
and they have each
their own post of doing.
00:56:28.50\00:56:33.18
The problem is that
in the world today folks,
00:56:33.21\00:56:35.90
the media have
demeaned motherhood.
00:56:35.93\00:56:38.97
It has demeaned the
domain of the mother
00:56:39.00\00:56:42.20
and the home
caring for the children.
00:56:42.23\00:56:45.03
Women today want to be
so called professionals
00:56:45.06\00:56:49.03
and as a result the
children have no education,
00:56:49.06\00:56:53.08
they have no care in
society as a result falls apart.
00:56:53.11\00:56:58.38
I know that this is
not politically correct
00:56:58.41\00:57:00.89
but it's the truth.
00:57:00.92\00:57:02.48
The reason why the
world is in such a mess
00:57:02.51\00:57:06.03
is because the roles of husbands
and wives have been lost.
00:57:06.06\00:57:12.34
And the only way in
which things can improve is
00:57:12.37\00:57:15.65
if we recover
the legitimate roles
00:57:15.68\00:57:18.94
that are to be filled
by husbands and by wives.
00:57:18.97\00:57:22.85