Welcome to "Wonderfully Made"
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We're talking
about "vibrant womanhood"
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And today, with me on the
show Dr. Cherie Lou Fernandez
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Welcome Dr.
Cherie Lou... Thank you
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Your host today is Amy Wellard
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from the
Wildwood Lifestyle Center,
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and we're going to be talking
about a condition that is
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NOT a life-threatening
condition but can cause
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a lot of pain and
discomfort and that is fibroids.
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Dr. Cherie Lou, I understand
that up to 80% of women
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age between 30 and 50 are
actually suffering from fibroids
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It's a common thing.
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And it's very
common in black Caribbeans
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more than any
other racial group. Yes
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What exactly are fibroids?
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Well first of
all, there's good news!
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It is a BENIGN tumor.
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Fibroids are very, very common;
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the most common pelvic
tumor but they ARE benign.
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They hardly invade
the surrounding tissues...
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They don't invade
the surrounding tissues,
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and do not cause death
- directly cause death.
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BUT, if you were in menopause
and you already had a fibroid
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that wasn't operated on.
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Let's say you
didn't have it operated on,
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and you didn't know you had it,
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but you had the fibroid
when you went into menopause.
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As you grow older,
as in 60, 70 years old,
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there's a point
.03-to-.05-to-.07 chance
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that you can develop malignancy
from the existing fibroid.
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So what you're saying is
it's a very, very low risk.
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Okay, so what is the
cause of these fibroids?
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Okay, fibroids are benign
tumors of the smooth muscles.
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You can find smooth
muscles all over your body -
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your blood vessels, the
lining of your esophagus,
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the lining of your gut.
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But the biggest bunch of smooth
muscles you could probably say
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is in your uterus...
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And there are a lot of receptors
to estrogen in your uterus,
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and it is genetic, you know.
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Whether you have a lot of
receptors or your receptors
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are very receptive or
sensitive - you would say,
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it is genetic.
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This propensity is genetic,
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and so if you have an
increased level of estrogen,
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and you have the
genetic propensity,
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you would develop the
tumors of the smooth muscles.
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So would that indicate
that ladies that have never
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had babies are at a
greater risk of fibroids
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because they tend to
have a high level of estrogen?
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Yes it is - a uterus
that has been deprived
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of a baby will
console itself in a fibroid.
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I'm sorry to say
that but it is true.
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It's because
they have high levels
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of estrogen never resting...
always having the estrogen.
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But on the other hand,
it's a blessing for women
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that have had children. Yes
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The more children you've had
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the less likely you
are to have fibroids... Yes
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Yes that's true - more
children, less fibroids.
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Okay, so what are the
other reasons a person
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could possibly be at greater
risk for having fibroids?
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Well when you're not
pregnant, you develop fibroids.
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It's stress... I mean
it's not stress, sorry.
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Your hormones are
high, so then you develop...
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there's a risk
between not getting pregnant
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and having fibroids
BUT when you finally
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get yourself
pregnant, if ever you have this
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propensity to develop a fibroid,
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this fibroid will
grow FAST, REALLY FAST!
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Change in hormones
also can make fibroids grow
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along with pregnancy.
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Okay, so it's possible to be
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pregnant AND have a fibroid. Yes
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And you would have a difficulty
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like when I had a
patient with fibroids...
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Where is the
uterus here, you see...
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Because you feel
something that's different from
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the uterus you don't know.
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You might have a
uterus of 3 months -
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a baby of 3 months,
but your uterus is 5 months
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because of the mass.
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And she suddenly has pain
from necrosis of the fibroid
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because the blood supply
cannot supply the fibroid.
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Is that
life-threatening for the baby?
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It could be life-threatening for
BOTH the baby and the mother.
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So if a lady in pregnancy does
experience sudden abdominal pain
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...that doesn't feel
like perhaps the normal
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stretching of the
uterus, what should she do?
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She should seek
counsel right away
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because it could
mean the loss of the baby
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and/or even her life.
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Is it worth that thing
but of course any pain in
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pregnancy you have
to go seek counsel.
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It's not normal to
have this pain in pregnancy.
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Now I heard there
was a connection between
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oral contraceptives
and fibroid risk...
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Yes! Especially oral
contraceptives that are high
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in estrogen.
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You know, there
are different kinds;
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you have high dose,
medium dose and low dose.
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It's the high dose
oral contraceptives
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that are very, very
closely linked to the
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development of fibroids.
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And would that
also correlate to ladies
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that are overweight -
they would have a greater
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tendency to be getting fibroids.
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Yes also because,
again, if you're overweight
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your fat produces
endogenous estrogen.
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The fat produces more estrogen,
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so then you make yourself
prone to developing fibroids.
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And what other
factors in our lifestyle
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can make us more likely to get
them besides the excess weight?
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Stress can make you
prone to developing fibroids
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because it
makes you anovulatory.
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Hypertension is
associated with the production
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or the development...
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Even hypertension is
associated with the formation
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or the development of fibroids,
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and of course, bad
nutrition - so all these things.
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So how would I know
if I have a fibroid?
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Can I be without
symptoms for a long time?
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Majority of patients with
fibroid have NO manifestations.
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Oh I had a
patient who came to me
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like she's full-term pregnancy,
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and she didn't know
she was pregnant because
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she was rather of the big
size and they thought that she
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was just becoming overweight,
gaining more fat around
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the abdominal area.
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But really, it was a fibroid
as big as a 5-gallon bucket
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You see these paint
buckets, the 5-gallon ones,
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her fibroid was
even bigger than that.
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It could not enter the
5- gallon bucket. Amazing!
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And she was
pregnant at the same time?
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No-no-no, she
didn't know she had it.
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She was asymptomatic.
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So the majority of
fibroids have no manifestations.
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Right, so often the
doctor will discover it when
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doing an ultrasound for
a baby. Yes, probably so
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Okay, but some ladies
are experiencing bleeding,
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and is that because of
the situation of the fibroid
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...exactly where it is in the
uterus that can cause bleeding.
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Yes, the most common
manifestation probably
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that would alarm a
lady would be bleeding.
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We are afraid to be bleeding
beyond what we bleed regularly.
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And, that's about a
third of cases - they bleed,
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and it's something
that sometimes ladies would
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have to have blood transfusions.
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And it is a specific type
of fibroid that locates itself
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in the lining of the uterus
so that it affects the lining
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so when you have
menses, the fibroid is there,
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and you bleed more profusely.
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So then, a lot of women may
even have their uterus taken out
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...even with a
fibroid as big as a marble,
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depending on where it is located
you might bleed profusely.
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And obviously, if you are
bleeding in-between menses,
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then that indicates that
there is something going on.
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So we do encourage
you, if you are experiencing
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those symptoms at all,
do go and see a physician
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and find out what
that is because any kind of
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menstruating-like
bleeding in-between the period
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does indicate the need
to see a physician. Yes
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So how does fibroids affect
our chances of conceiving?
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If I want to conceive a
baby and I have fibroids,
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could it
possibly limit my chances?
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Yes - because if it
were inside the uterus,
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you see how the sperm
have to swim past it...
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sometimes it really
blocks the passage of sperm
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or sometimes it
grabs or it supplants the
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implantation site of blood
supply and causing inflammation
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around the area
of implantation...
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so that you may even
have a fertilization -
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you might have a
viable fertilized egg,
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but it cannot implant
itself because there's something
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there that is causing problems.
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So that's one
thing that it could do...
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That's the way it works to
make infertility come about.
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So what's the best
thing to do to treat fibroids
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once we know
that they are there,
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and very often, the
doctor won't know it's there
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until you're several
months into pregnancy.
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Will the doctor try to treat
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the fibroid while
the lady is pregnant?
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While she's pregnant? Yes
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If it doesn't cause any problem,
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the doctor will
not touch the fibroid.
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But if the fibroid is necrotic
already, it's dead inside,
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and it will cause toxic
problems with your patient,
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then may EVEN opt
to take the fibroid out
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because then you would
not only lose your baby,
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but you would
even lose your mom...
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so you just have to
run the risk of which is
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more important... but of
course we want to keep the baby.
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I've done that!
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When I had a REALLY necrotic...
you could tell by ultrasound
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that your fibroid is
going into necrosis and how much
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necrosis there is by sonography.
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I really had to take the thing
out but the Lord is gracious
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...You ask for His
help and you do this
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Even to make the decisions,
you have to ask Him to
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help you... I decided anyway,
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and I took this out.
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We were able to keep the
baby and the mom was okay.
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Of course, we
delivered by C-section
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because we had made a
big scar on the uterus.
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But both the mother and
the baby were well and that's
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the main thing...
Yes, praise the Lord, yes!
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It's not an easy task to do that
... it's not really that easy.
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So if she's not
pregnant and she's got fibroids,
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what treatment would
you recommend if we're
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going to look at
natural approaches?
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Okay well, many
times they have pain;
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you have to take
into consideration
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that your patient has pain;
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you treat and help support her
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with symptomatic and
supportive therapy for the pain
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so that she is able
to deal with this...
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But taking care of
the symptoms and the signs
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and support your lady
would not let this disappear.
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I can tell you my specific
experience with fibroids.
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I had several fibroids the
size around 2-3 cm; 3 of them,
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and I can tell you... this
is funny - it's not funny but
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but it's funny-funny -
oh, you know what I mean!
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When I would eat properly,
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meaning I would deliberately
become a vegetarian,
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and I would juice
myself, morning and lunch.
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I would be able to
SHRINK my fibroids.
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I'm not telling this
to just pull your leg, Amy
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I did scans on it, I
PROVED... before and after.
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So then - it
disappeared the first time.
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I thought then, Okay, I'm fine,
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I don't have the
fibroids anymore.
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And so I went back and
ate my chicken, my cheese,
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and my whatever - you
know. I enjoyed myself
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And it came BACK with
a vengeance much BIGGER
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than it was before! Really?
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And I said, "Oh
Lord, I'm so sorry"
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And I started my vegetarian
diet again, my exercise,
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and everything and I
juiced and it DISAPPEARED again!
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So to me, it's not coincidence.
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When you work on it, your
body will take care of you.
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So fibroids is not
really that hard to care for,
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it's just you just make up
your mind - you work on it.
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Okay, so the
healthy diet is REALLY what
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made the difference for
you. Very important - yes
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And going back to the less
healthy diet made it come back
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with SUCH a vengeance,
very aggressive growth...
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because perhaps
increased estrogen in your body
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the results of the
chicken and processed foods.
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So let's really
hit on the diet...
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This is the key
point for everybody
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who is struggling with fibroids,
especially painful ones.
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WHAT is the optimal diet?
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We're talking
plant-based vegetarian,
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lots of green vegetables,
anything specific besides that?
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When you hit the problem,
you have to know the reason why.
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So there are 2
things that you have to take
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into serious consideration...
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How to bring your
estrogen back into balance.
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Your estrogen is going
wild so you have to take that
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into consideration...
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Or, how are you
supposed to eliminate the
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extra estrogen that you have
which you can do using diet.
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So you cut down on your fats
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so that you
don't have extra fats.
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You eat a lot of grains
which has a lot of fiber,
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which has the right
kinds of carbohydrates,
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your vegetables with magnesium
with calcium, with manganese,
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and all the rest of
the other minerals that are
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important for your
liver and your ovaries,
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and your adrenals to be able
to work the best way they could
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to bring back your
hormones to normal,
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and also to
eliminate the extra estrogen
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that you have in your body.
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So it's - hit this, your ovaries
your adrenals and your liver...
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These are the 3 important
organs you have to care for
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with your diet in order to help
shrink the fibroids you have.
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And so what you're saying
is that the ANIMAL-based diet,
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which is the typical American
diet - the standard diet,
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is actually feeding the fibroids
and the processed foods...
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I mean, even if I
take vegetables from a can,
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that's not going to give me
the benefit as taking it fresh.
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It needs to be fresh, the grains
need to be the whole grains;
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whole grain rice and
whole grain pasta and so on.
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Now is there any
other way we can increase
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this expulsion of
estrogen besides the diet?
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For example -
exercise What does that do?
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Everything has to do
by walking after eating,
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you enhance all
your digestive organs
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inducing your
liver to do its work.
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OH - very important...
At nighttime, when you
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go to bed, is about
the time when your liver is
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starting to wrap up
everything that you put
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in your body the whole day.
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So you have to take
care NOT to give extra food
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to your liver at night...
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So that instead of it working
on the food that you gave it,
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it will work on the detoxifying
and cleaning your body of
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the extra whatever you have
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put in your body
throughout the day.
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So a light-light supper
would be friendly to your liver,
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and would help
eliminate your extra estrogen.
00:16:35.81\00:16:40.94
Now you mentioned
that you did juicing...
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Could you tell us a
little more about that;
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what you juiced and where
you got those vegetables from.
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Oh, I used organic because
when you do organic juicing,
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you CONCENTRATE all the
nutrients you have there.
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If there was pesticides,
you CONCENTRATE it as well,
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and you drink that.
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So as much as possible, get
your certified organic juice
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Fruit juice in the morning,
different kinds of fruit,
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and vegetables - not
always the same vegetables
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from day-to-day, not always
the same fruit from day-to-day
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because she will get
tired of drinking this thing...
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Three vegetables today,
another tomorrow and another
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so you don't fatigue!
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Okay - sounds good and so that
your appetite is still satisfied
00:17:23.56\00:17:27.40
while you're treating yourself.
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But not only juicing...
you EAT a balanced diet,
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and you juice on top
of it because you get
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the real nutrients you need,
the vitamins and the minerals.
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Okay, absolutely.
00:17:37.32\00:17:38.69
And hydrotherapy, I
know, can be very helpful
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for abdominopelvic pain.
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Yes, especially
PRIOR to the menses.
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You could do, again, the
cold sitz for 15 seconds...
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Okay, I want make
sure it's seconds not...
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you would freeze your butt...
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It's ice cold 15
seconds of cold sitz.
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It shrinks the blood
vessels towards your uterus
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so that it deprives the
fibroid of blood supply.
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Could we just
sit in a cold bathtub
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or does it need to be
a tub that just isolates
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the pelvic area as we
sit in it. You could...
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You could - actually as long
as you have this are covered,
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but if it were 15 seconds
of ice cold, you wouldn't want
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your whole body in the tub
- that's why you have a tub.
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Okay, as long as you
cover up to the naval,
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and down to the thighs. Yes
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Okay wonderful, and
then after that - that's it,
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you just do that
just prior to menses?
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Prior to menses - about
a week before EVERY DAY!
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Obviously that's going to be
the BEST - the natural approach.
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There's no side effects from
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any medications. No
side effects for sure.
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But is there any
medical approach that sometimes
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needs to be resorted to perhaps?
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Oh, the medical comes
in... you know it's hormones
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They give you hormones and many
really opt not to take hormones.
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And the REAL, the
ONLY complete management
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for fibroids is
surgery, and not everybody wants
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to go under the knife...
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And besides, a lot of operations
sometimes are uncalled for,
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but it happens that you have
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surgeries because it's the
easiest way - the quickest way,
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but not
necessarily the best way.
00:19:26.90\00:19:29.60
And sometimes even
a hysterectomy with
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complete removal of
the uterus takes place.
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Would there be
any recommendation
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you would have about that
and maintaining the ovaries...
00:19:36.59\00:19:39.72
Yes, before even in a medical
practice, gynecological practice
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...They said it used
to be when you turn 40,
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you get uterus, you get ovaries.
00:19:48.36\00:19:51.36
So when you take out the uterus,
00:19:51.39\00:19:53.19
you have to take
out the ovaries at 40...
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But then it moved
up, women caught up,
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and said, "I don't want the
surgical menopause so early"
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So then now we are
giving this informed consent
00:20:01.90\00:20:05.40
to the patients
whether they choose to
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have their ovaries still or
have their ovaries taken out.
00:20:07.83\00:20:11.96
You can have an informed
consent so that you know
00:20:11.99\00:20:14.99
how to deal - you
don't necessarily have to
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take your ovaries out.
00:20:17.49\00:20:18.88
And keeping the
ovaries, of course, is ideal
00:20:18.91\00:20:21.10
because then you
can have the hormones
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still being produced.
You still have your hormones.
00:20:22.79\00:20:24.51
Now Dr. Cherie Lou, you've
been practicing for many years
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in the Philippines - you
have many different experiences
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that have been very fascinating
in my conversations with you.
00:20:30.40\00:20:32.86
I've enjoyed it very much.
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Please tell us some of
your experiences with fibroids -
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to give our viewers hope if
they're suffering with this.
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I'll bring you closer...
you might say that's too far
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in the Philippines... I
bring you one closer here
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to us in the United States.
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Two years ago, after I
had given my talk on fibroids
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in Wildwood during the
natural remedies seminar,
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a lady came to me and had
said that she had fibroids
00:20:52.39\00:20:56.87
and she also
had an ovarian mass.
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and that was in
June, 2 years ago.
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She came to me and she
said that she was scheduled for
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operation in September.
00:21:05.23\00:21:09.01
She was supposed to have
her operation in September.
00:21:09.04\00:21:11.47
And she said, "Can I
do something about this
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because I have fibroids?"
00:21:13.62\00:21:14.99
I said, "How big
are your fibroids?"
00:21:15.02\00:21:16.56
She said, "They
are less than 6 cm. "
00:21:16.59\00:21:19.32
Now, you have prognosis
much better if your fibroids
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are less than 6 cm.
00:21:22.55\00:21:25.20
She said they
were less than 6 cm.
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So I said, "You
have to exercise;
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you have to eat properly
as in SERIOUSLY eat properly;
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CHANGE your diet
RADICALLY, do juicing, exercise,
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sleep early, be temperate,
00:21:37.86\00:21:41.92
open your windows - have
the best air that you can
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have in your house and all
the natural remedies I told her.
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You know what?
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She was doing this
REALLY, REALLY RELIGIOUSLY.
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In August, she went back to her
doctor for all the final tests
00:21:52.89\00:21:58.33
to prepare her for
her September operation.
00:21:58.36\00:22:02.05
Her doctor was on her for a
long time trying to look for
00:22:02.08\00:22:05.41
these fibroids - they WEREN'T
THERE ANYMORE! Wonderful!
00:22:05.44\00:22:09.50
And that was only 2
months, July and August. Really?
00:22:09.53\00:22:13.17
September - normal -
She has been clear since.
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That's really AMAZING!
00:22:16.13\00:22:17.96
So what you're
saying is it really works.
00:22:17.99\00:22:21.17
It works! You've proven it!
00:22:21.20\00:22:22.69
And that's just one
of many... Over and over
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Praise God... So what
special word would you give to
00:22:25.20\00:22:29.32
some of our ladies that
may be wanting to get pregnant
00:22:29.35\00:22:31.99
but are having
problems with fibroids?
00:22:32.02\00:22:34.27
Would you recommend that they
00:22:34.30\00:22:36.02
just go ahead
and try to conceive,
00:22:36.05\00:22:37.87
or that they should
deal with the fibroids first?
00:22:37.90\00:22:40.72
I think that they should
deal with the fibroids first.
00:22:40.75\00:22:45.11
Fibroids can compete
with the pregnancy, you know?
00:22:45.14\00:22:48.75
And it can affect the
outcome of your pregnancy.
00:22:48.78\00:22:52.31
You're already
trying to get pregnant,
00:22:52.34\00:22:54.29
and when you get
pregnant and you lose your baby
00:22:54.32\00:22:56.83
because of the fibroid,
that's going to be hard.
00:22:56.86\00:23:00.55
So if you can just deal
with one problem at a time,
00:23:00.58\00:23:03.79
that's probably wiser.
00:23:03.82\00:23:06.73
Deal with one problem at a time.
00:23:06.76\00:23:09.39
If you cannot
really deal with it -
00:23:09.42\00:23:11.70
...your clock is clicking,
ticking down and time is
00:23:11.73\00:23:16.52
so short, well -
maybe you could try.
00:23:16.55\00:23:20.08
But I'd rather just
have one problem at a time.
00:23:20.11\00:23:25.12
It gives you better
coping with that yes.
00:23:25.15\00:23:30.73
And for the ladies
that do opt for surgery
00:23:30.76\00:23:32.94
or that need to have surgery,
00:23:32.97\00:23:34.57
what kind of
postoperative care would you add
00:23:34.60\00:23:37.36
in addition to the lifestyle
measures you've told us?
00:23:37.39\00:23:39.59
Oh if ever you really
decide to operated on,
00:23:39.62\00:23:42.43
and there is no
other way because there is
00:23:42.46\00:23:44.69
always a place for surgery...
00:23:44.72\00:23:46.58
It's not that - we were saying,
00:23:46.61\00:23:48.60
No - don't go to
your doctor for surgery...
00:23:48.63\00:23:50.20
That's wrong -
don't get me wrong.
00:23:50.23\00:23:52.02
That is NOT the case.
00:23:52.05\00:23:53.91
There are REALLY times when
00:23:53.94\00:23:55.69
you do need to
operate on your patient.
00:23:55.72\00:23:58.06
But surgery for
fibroids is not an emergency.
00:23:58.09\00:24:01.55
So if it is a big
fibroid, you have to take care
00:24:01.58\00:24:05.84
...surgery is not easy!
00:24:05.87\00:24:08.71
Postoperative
recovery is not easy.
00:24:08.74\00:24:12.08
I went through the knife
twice and it's a painful thing
00:24:12.11\00:24:18.11
not only physically
but even emotionally.
00:24:18.14\00:24:20.97
And so, she has to
take care of her body to
00:24:21.00\00:24:24.09
REALLY be healthy so that she
can bounce back fast - you know?
00:24:24.12\00:24:29.30
And when you're operated
on, as soon as you are given
00:24:29.33\00:24:32.49
the permission to
walk, if you can run... run!
00:24:32.52\00:24:35.85
I mean, activity right
after operation makes your
00:24:35.88\00:24:40.25
intestines move faster,
your recovery will be faster,
00:24:40.28\00:24:43.57
your voiding will be faster,
00:24:43.60\00:24:45.22
your bowels will
start working faster...
00:24:45.25\00:24:48.19
All in all, you will
have a better recovery,
00:24:48.22\00:24:52.42
a better chance
of not developing
00:24:52.45\00:24:54.19
complications
from the operation...
00:24:54.22\00:24:56.56
And then don't slack off.
00:24:56.59\00:24:57.96
That's the key,
right? Don't slack off!
00:24:57.99\00:25:01.98
Whenever we get
any breakthrough,
00:25:02.01\00:25:04.08
it's so tempting to
think... Well let me just try,
00:25:04.11\00:25:06.08
like yourself - Let me
just have a bit of chicken,
00:25:06.11\00:25:08.37
or a little bit of cheese.
00:25:08.40\00:25:09.77
It is so human to do that.
00:25:09.80\00:25:12.08
The body will respond
right away... Exactly!
00:25:12.11\00:25:15.41
And God has given us the promise
00:25:15.44\00:25:16.93
that I'd like to share with our
viewers - in Deuteronomy 7:12-13
00:25:16.96\00:25:21.85
It says that - "If
you diligently hearken,
00:25:21.88\00:25:24.60
so consistently,
hearken to these principles,
00:25:24.63\00:25:27.27
then the Lord will
bless you and multiply you,
00:25:27.30\00:25:31.01
and bless the
fruit of your womb. "
00:25:31.04\00:25:33.24
And so, we can take that
promise if we know that we are
00:25:33.27\00:25:36.00
following all the good lifestyle
00:25:36.03\00:25:37.89
advice that you've given
us today... thank you so much.
00:25:37.92\00:25:40.32
Are there any other testimonies
00:25:40.35\00:25:41.77
that you can
inspire us with today?
00:25:41.80\00:25:43.56
Fibroids that seemed
life-threatening perhaps
00:25:43.59\00:25:47.10
to a mother or baby?
00:25:47.13\00:25:48.50
Yes, for fibroids
that are life-threatening
00:25:48.53\00:25:53.79
to the mom and the baby?
00:25:53.82\00:25:55.90
I've had several, you
know, and it is something that
00:25:55.93\00:26:01.41
you wouldn't want to experience.
00:26:01.44\00:26:04.75
That's why I'm saying
when you are dealing with
00:26:04.78\00:26:09.19
fibroids and you want a baby,
deal with one problem first
00:26:09.22\00:26:12.53
because it is difficult
to go through it... nobody.
00:26:12.56\00:26:15.79
It's like a horror thing
for the doctor to have a patient
00:26:15.82\00:26:19.61
with a fibroid
that's going into necrosis,
00:26:19.64\00:26:22.27
and a precious baby in
the womb. Oh yes, absolutely!
00:26:22.30\00:26:25.68
You really wouldn't want that.
00:26:26.67\00:26:29.74
Oh and operations
recklessly done...
00:26:29.77\00:26:35.36
So I would say maybe it
would be really better to
00:26:35.39\00:26:37.93
ask the Lord to guide
you to find a godly doctor
00:26:37.96\00:26:42.85
to guide you
through your preoperation,
00:26:42.88\00:26:45.40
your operation and
your post operation
00:26:45.43\00:26:48.30
because even if you
keep your ovaries...
00:26:48.33\00:26:50.98
Even if you keep your
ovaries after the operation,
00:26:51.01\00:26:55.07
sometimes when you take
out the uterus, the ovary -
00:26:55.10\00:26:57.70
what do you call this
when it SYMPATHIZES. Really?
00:26:57.73\00:27:04.05
Yes. The atrophy of the
ovaries AFTER hysterectomy or
00:27:04.08\00:27:08.07
just removal of the
uterus alone - the ovaries also
00:27:08.10\00:27:12.54
start to atrophy... it's
like they were taken out.
00:27:12.57\00:27:16.57
So that it's scary
to do a hysterectomy...
00:27:16.60\00:27:18.68
That's why the natural
way is so much friendlier.
00:27:18.71\00:27:24.07
It's God's way and His way
HAS to be the most healthful
00:27:24.10\00:27:27.14
with the LEAST side effects
00:27:27.17\00:27:28.54
even if it takes
a little bit longer
00:27:28.57\00:27:30.56
than perhaps using
surgery or medication.
00:27:30.59\00:27:33.08
So to summarize about fibroids,
basically we're talking
00:27:33.11\00:27:35.97
...healthy
eating, healthy exercise,
00:27:36.00\00:27:38.52
healthy living, healthy you,
00:27:38.55\00:27:40.36
and the body should take
care of the fibroids by itself.
00:27:40.39\00:27:43.69
Thank you so
much, Dr. Cherie Lou,
00:27:43.72\00:27:45.09
for being with us
today. It's a pleasure.
00:27:45.12\00:27:47.08
And for those of you at
home that have been with us,
00:27:47.11\00:27:49.63
we pray that the Lord
will really bless you with
00:27:49.66\00:27:51.76
this information and
that you might be able to help
00:27:51.79\00:27:53.78
many other people as well.
00:27:53.81\00:27:55.44
And remember, the Lord made
you Wonderfully and Fearfully,
00:27:55.47\00:27:59.86
and He promised that
He will take care of you
00:27:59.89\00:28:02.47
as you cooperate
with His health laws.
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