My name is Amy Wellard
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I'm from the "Wildwood
Lifestyle Center" in Georgia
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and with me today is
Dr. Cherie Lon Fernandez
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Welcome Dr.
Cherie Lon... Thank you
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Today, we're going to be talking
about a very, very sensitive
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topic -
fertility and infertility
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Now, Dr. Cherie Lon, this
is a very pertinent subject
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for myself actually.
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My husband and I, we
tried to conceive for
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several years - I
think it was about 4 years
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before the Lord
blessed my womb, so-to-speak,
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opened my womb,
as the Bible says,
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and blessed us with a
lovely and healthy son
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which I'm very thankful for.
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But I can really relate to
the struggle that so many women
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are going through in fertility,
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and not being able to conceive,
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and all the struggles, emotional
struggles that go with that.
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So tell us, how does
a woman know technically
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whether she's fertile or not?
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When it comes to that
time, she wants to have a baby
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...how does she know if her body
is going to be able to do it?
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First, if you were going
to go back to the previous...
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if your cycles are
regular, most likely, you will.
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If you have a regular
cycle and there are not so many
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problems associated with it,
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you're most likely
going to have a baby,
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BUT if you've been
married for a year,
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and you have had
uncontrolled sexual intercourse,
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and you've not had a baby,
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you probably are infertile...
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And/or if you are
married and above 35 years old,
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and have not had
controlled sexual intercourse
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for 6 months, you
fall under the category of
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people who are infertile.
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And of course, infertility
increases as we get older.
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I think 35 is the point
where things start becoming
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a little more difficult. Yes
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So typically a woman
that cannot conceive...
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the problem is
considered hers generally.
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We tend to think of the
woman as being the problem,
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but it could just as well
be the man, is that right?
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That's true... the
statistics will say that
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when a couple comes in
for infertility workup,
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you know, they have
been having it one year
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and they don't have a baby,
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and we try and see
where the problem is.
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You know, I had a patient
who came into my clinic one day,
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and she was with
several other doctors
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from year after year
after year - 7 years in fact...
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She was going to different
doctors hoping that she
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could get
pregnant and she came to me
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and I said, "Well,
where's your husband"
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I tried to do follow-up on her,
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but I couldn't get
her pregnant for 6 months!
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And I said, "Probably let's
just check your husband first"
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It turned out that
it was her husband!
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So thirteen percent, I mean
one-third of infertility cases,
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you can say the
woman has the problem...
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One-third of cases you could
say the man has the problem...
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And the other third is
BOTH of them have problems.
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So actually, the man could be
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just as much the
problem as the woman? Yes
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Well that's news to me.
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So if the man is really
having some fertility issues,
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what could be the cause?
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Okay, there are 2 causes really,
but it's just intertwined.
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One is probably the man
cannot produce the sperm.
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There must be
problems in his testicles
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that sperm is
not being produced.
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Examples of this is - how
can you get your testicles
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not to produce sperm?
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When you are in an
environment that always hot,
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you know - your body's
temperature is always high,
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and sperm is not produced.
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When a person
takes illicit drugs,
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it ruins the
testicles from producing sperm.
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When the person
wears tight Jockeys,
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and it makes the
hugging on the body,
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increasing the
temperature of the testicles,
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the sperm is not made and there
are so many other circumstances
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...Not even eating well
and infections of the testicles
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can cause the
testicles not to produce sperm.
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And are there any
other physiological reason
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from inside the man, for
example - varicose veins?
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Oh yes, yes, yes -
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He may be able to
produce the sperm.
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Let's say the testicles
are fine they're working fine
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producing their
stuff from day-to-day;
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however, if the passageway
of the sperm to go out
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is clogged, such as
they may have varicosities,
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you know -
varicosities that are choking
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the passageway of the
sperm - sperm cannot go out.
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Or if he had infections
in the past that would scar
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the epididymis, you call that,
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it's like the one that matures
the sperm on top of your testes.
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It's the structure before
it goes into your passageway.
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It can be scarred and
there's no more passage.
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So you have the sperm,
but there's no passage,
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so you don't get the sperm.
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And is it possible the sperm
could be mutated in some way
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so that even though it
arrives in the right place,
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it just doesn't have the
materials to make it happen.
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There are, if you would
look under the microscope,
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and when you're
doing a sperm count,
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you'd see a lot of
normal cells in a normal person,
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but there are times when
there are double-headed sperm,
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and
funny-looking dumbbell sperm...
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And the number of
that if it's increased,
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if you have slow-moving,
sluggish little things,
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and funny-looking
stuff, they can't fertilize.
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Okay, so let's go
back to the woman.
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Let's get back to us.
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What is it about us
or our eggs that could
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be causing us to
have such a difficult time
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in conceiving a baby?
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Oh okay, there
are 4 MAJOR causes
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why women can't
produce a baby...
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One is like if you'd say...
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the testicles
cannot produce sperm;
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the ovaries, on the other
hand, cannot produce the eggs.
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There are infectious diseases,
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I mean autoimmune problems
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that can cause
your ovaries to scar
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and/or you're having
polycystic ovarian syndrome,
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anovulatory
cycles, hormonal imbalances
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that your ovaries
just don't produce the egg.
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So then you will not be
fertile, you don't have the egg.
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So anything that can cause the
ovary not to produce the egg is
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one major reason why a
woman can't get pregnant.
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Now, when we were
looking, my husband and I
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we were trying to conceive,
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obviously we felt that the
Lord had promised us a child,
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but we also felt we needed
to play our part in making sure
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that we had
everything right and that was,
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to be honest, that was when
I really started to understand
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some of these things
that I didn't understand
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when I first got married
that I wish I had understood...
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And one of them was in
the signs that a woman has
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when she's
approaching ovulation.
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There are certain
signs that we can know,
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and for those of you at home,
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you can know this even
if you're not even married.
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You can know when you're
ovulating by these body signs.
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Could you tell us
about those? Okay...
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This ovary, when it releases
the egg, you call it ovulation.
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When you would have an idea
more or less that you ovulated,
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your ovary that
supposed to give out an egg,
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has released its egg,
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and you are now the
first cause of infertility -
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you are fertile
because you produced an egg.
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When you produce an
egg and it went out,
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you call that "ovulation,"
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there is a change in
hormones in the body,
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and especially you would
have an increase in fluid.
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You know, you regularly
- I was told by my teacher
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when I was still younger...
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I wonder why they
taught us in elementary...
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But you would KNOW
that you were ovulating
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because there would
be this STRETCHING OUT
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of the cervical discharge.
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You know, we have a
discharge from day-to-day...
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Maybe it would be a good
habit for a lady or a woman
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to look to see the discharge.
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And when the discharge
goes like this... like mucous,
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you know, the
discharge is mucousy.
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If it is cheesy-like, you know,
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and/or rubbery - you would say,
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the sperm can't go through,
it can't get to the egg...
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But when it goes like this,
then that means you've ovulated.
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Okay, because it's stretchy...
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Yeah, and if your
hormones are just par.
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Oh, so everything is
ripe. Yes, in other words.
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Ripe and ready!
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Okay, so that's the time
if you're wanting to conceive,
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that is the time to say...
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"Husband, it's
time to come home"
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Yes, that's the time.
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And it's amazing how a little
piece of information like that
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can make a HUGE difference
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because many of us women,
when we're in high school,
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we really think the
only time we can conceive
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is pretty much any time.
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In other words, if you had
any relationship with somebody,
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you could get pregnant
at any time in your cycle.
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No, there is a specific time.
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And that's a very
short window of timing.
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Could you tell us
about that window?
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Okay, the egg, when
it's extruded or ovulated out
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of the ovaries,
has a 24-hour lifespan.
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It can probably
go a little bit more,
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but if you would
REALLY want to get pregnant,
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there is a golden opportunity
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to have the
optimum fertilization,
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and the optimum fertilized egg.
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And although they say
the egg lives for 24 hours,
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I'd rather be very conservative
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and say - the first 12
hours, after ovulation,
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is the best time for conception.
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The first 12
hours after ovulation...
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So as soon as you get that sign,
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you know you've got
about 12 hours where there is a
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maximal opportunity.
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Actually, if the
husband is close by,
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it's not really a
problem because our hormones
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will make us more amorous.
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You will just not believe
it, but you will go to your
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husband and be more tender...
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You'd be more... you
know whatever I'm getting at.
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Okay! You'd be more... you'd
just be nice to hour husband.
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You don't know, you would
not be nice to your husband
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on any other time, but
this time you would be.
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The body is
pushing you to do it.
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The body is telling you... okay
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So, are there any other signs?
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Okay, for what? For ovulation.
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When people are
wanting to conceive,
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very often, they will
chart their body temperature...
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the basal body temperature. Okay
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It's a little bit of an
inconvenient thing to do,
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you have to do it
first thing in the morning,
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but how effective is
it at locating ovulation?
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It is really one of the
important things you have to do,
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because when you extrude the
egg or the process of ovulation
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comes, even before, progesterone
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will be released
slowly by your ovaries...
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And when this happens,
it shifts your temperature
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higher by about 0.5 centigrade
or maybe almost a Fahrenheit
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or maybe half a
Fahrenheit but half, you know.
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So if you had
97.6... the average was 97.6,
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every morning before you
get up, before anything else,
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even before drinking
water or even before talking,
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because when you talk
wind gets into your mouth
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and it cools your
tongue down or whatever.
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Before ANYTHING ELSE, put
that thermometer in your mouth,
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and take your temperature.
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No drinking water.
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First thing and
then you plot it.
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Then you take your average.
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It's 97.8, let's say, or 98.
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If it goes up to
98.5 and it stays there,
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more or less you have ovulated.
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If it stays there up
to the end of the cycle,
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that means you have ovulated
because hormones are going up,
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your progesterone is going up.
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You won't have progesterone
unless you ovulated.
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So that combined
with the cervical mucus
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is a very good
double confirmation
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that you're ovulating.
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So do that so that you
don't have work so much time.
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And now, as we
mentioned earlier,
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women that are 35 and
over will perhaps not ovulate
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as frequently
as younger women...
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But I want to say as a
word of encouragement now
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that there are many
women over 35 that have
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very healthy
babies... I was one of them.
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I'm very thankful.
Yourself - you were one of them.
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And so you don't
need to give up hope.
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It's very possible.
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Even though the
chances of conception actually
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are cut by 50% every
year, is that right? Yes
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With each
increasing year after 35,
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but I found out
recently that there were over
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100,000 live births to
women between 42 and 44
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in the U.S. in 2006.
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It's because they have a
lot of ways to make it work.
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Ways to make it work.
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And so today, we're not going
to be so much talking about
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the conventional ways
of increasing fertility.
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But just tell me a
little bit about other factors
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that can really be
compounding the situation
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...if some of our
viewers are having a hard time
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to conceive after a year.
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For example, I had a polycystic
ovarian syndrome, endometriosis
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...these things, if
the woman is having issues
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with these things,
this could be impacting
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her chances? Okay, yes
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Let's deal first with, just
very short, on endometriosis.
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Endometriosis is
the lining of the uterus
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OUTSIDE of the
lining of the uterus.
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It may be embedded
in the fallopian tubes
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and/or in the pelvic cavity.
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And if it were around the
area of the fallopian tubes
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...when that happens
the fallopian tubes scar.
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Okay, they scarify
and when they scarify,
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you block the passage.
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So sperm can't get to the egg.
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So that's another factor
why you can't get pregnant.
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You have an egg but
the egg is never fertilized
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because the sperm
can't get through your
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scarred fallopian tubes
because of your endometriosis.
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And so that's
another reason why you can't.
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One of the main
causes of endometriosis is
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having painful
menses, cramping pain causing
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blood instead of
going out this way,
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goes through the
fallopian tubes and implants
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this endometrium outside causing
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scarification of
your fallopian tubes.
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And just a note on that...
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If you are having
any of these symptoms,
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we do encourage you to
see your healthcare provider
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or your physician and just
get some clarification there
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so that if that's impacting
your desire to have a baby,
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that really, your healthcare
provider can help you with that.
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Well, so what can we do about
polycystic ovarian syndrome
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impacting conception?
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Well, polycystic
ovarian syndrome manifests as
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infertility - usually
it is associated with an
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overweight
lady... can't get pregnant
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and not having menses regularly.
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Sometimes it's only
once in a year. Oh really?
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Yeah, it is a diagnosis
clenched by an ultrasound
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when they see the
ovaries with several cysts.
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They're not really
cysts, they are just eggs that
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have grown so big
and waiting to ovulate
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but have not been
given a chance because of
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hormonal imbalance.
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The luteinizing
hormone not being there
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and causing the
causing the release of the egg.
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So all these mature or
full-grown ready to burst out
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are not bursting out
so you don't have an egg.
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And many times,
polycystic ovarian syndrome,
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more often than not,
is a lifestyle problem.
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usually associated with poor
lifestyle and overweight women.
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And it's on the
increase along with
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metabolic
syndrome, diabetes... right.
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So let's look on
the positive side then.
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Let's look at the
natural remedies that we can use
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to increase our fertility.
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I read actually recently
that evening primrose oil
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can increase the
amount of the cervical mucus
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so that you can
pinpoint more effectively
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when you're ovulating
which I thought was wonderful.
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That's something you can
just take as a supplement
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with your meals. Yes
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Is there anything else
that we can do that will
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really improve
ovulation and improve the
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effectiveness of
the sperm getting there.
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We really cannot
overemphasize how important
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the natural remedies are.
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That's why we would want really
a person who is even thinking of
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getting pregnant...
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You can't work
on your fertility,
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I think it should
be in your heart...
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being a woman and maybe a
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young woman not
yet even married.
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It should already be
in your heart that if you
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really want a
baby, you should take
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of yourself at least 3
to 6 months in advance...
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before you ever get married.
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Because lifestyles,
you know, when your body
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has been "zonked" it
takes time to repair.
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But you can be sure that if
you do take care of your body,
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you get your menses regular,
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your hormones
will come regularly,
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any inflammation can be fixed,
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you're
exercising, drinking water,
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sleeping early,
being in the sunshine
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getting your vitamin D,
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and ALL these...
especially trusting in God
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you cannot...
that is very important,
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and being
temperate in all things...
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these give you a
very, very big chance.
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How can you ask the
Lord to bless when you are
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not following His requirements?
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It HAS to be that you
follow the requirements
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before you ask Him.
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He is gracious - He gives
us many times even if we don't,
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but then if you're
asking, wouldn't it be nice
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for you to just
follow the instructions?
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I think that's a
beautiful point you just made.
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It's important that we
trust God with this issue,
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and that He really
knows what's best for us.
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If having a child is the
best thing or if He has a
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different plan, it's
still going to be the best plan.
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And I think both of
us had children that was
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kind of a surprise to
us, because we were both
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naturally not the
kind of women that really
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prayed to have children.
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The funny thing is
when you had your husband,
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and you were impressed
that you wanted a child,
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then the Lord
gave you a child. Right
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My husband and I -
it's a different thing.
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I married my
husband on the premise that
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we were not going to have kids.
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Is that right?
Yeah! And he agreed? Yes!
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And we were
working on it really hard.
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Really, really hard, but we
can't usurp the will of the Lord
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He has His ways of
working in our lives,
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and if it's His
will... I didn't want a baby
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The Lord GAVE me a baby!
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I can tell you - if
you want to talk to me
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seriously about this,
it will take a long time
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I'll tell you ALL my guts!
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But anyway, the
Lord gave me a baby.
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He just gave me a
baby... Oh, I was surprised,
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but I was glad.
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After now, I'm really
glad the Lord gave me a son.
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Of course, and myself also.
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And God's plans for us may
not be our plans for ourselves.
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But we have the
promise in Romans 8:28,
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"That all things
work together for good
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to them that love the Lord"
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And so we can
always claim that promise.
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And I think it's
interesting that many times
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when we relax about this issue,
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if we can talk about
that... relaxing about it
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It's a topic that
when you want a baby,
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it's so hard to relax about it.
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Every time you see
somebody with a baby,
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it fires off those emotions,
but when we can learn to relax,
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it's often then that the
Lord brings that blessing
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because your
whole body is relaxed
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and the hormones are
becoming into balance.
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When you finally accept that
the Lord has a will for you,
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and, even if you don't
know the will of the Lord,
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it might just come...
Oh! I have to tell you
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this story - A friend of mine,
azoospermic - zero sperm...
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Oh, he had a big issue
in his past... really bad
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that he had zero sperm.
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BUT, he was married for
12 years with zero sperm.
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You won't
believe, after 12 years,
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he was working for
the Lord as a Bible...
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and he became a pastor...
Bible worker was working hard
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as a Bible worker,
then he became a pastor.
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In the 12th year of his
married life, azoospermic,
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the Lord gave
HIM a child. Three!
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Three children! Yes
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But I really thought
he would never have it
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because I thought
his thing was done.
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But the Lord... He
does not only open the womb,
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He opens these things!
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Oh, that's too beautiful.
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You never know what the
Lord is going to give you.
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He's in control...
Yes, He is in control.
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And submit with all your heart.
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The Lord really
knows what we need.
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He's so good to us
and He also gives us the
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information for us to
take care of ourselves. Yes
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And I want to pick up
on a point you made earlier
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about nutrition.
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We hear a lot about
folic acid deficiency.
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and neural tube
defects in infants...
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Please tell us WHEN should
we start folic acid supplement
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if we need to do
it, how do we know?
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Okay I think, even before -
it's very important to have a
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normal folic acid
already before you get into this
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fertility - infertility business
00:23:58.61\00:24:00.64
because you don't want to be
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taking it when
you're already there.
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Take it before - before,
there's a lot of folic acid
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in all the vegetables and
all the beans and the greens
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So you're eating properly
and if you would want to,
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you could even take a supplement
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to get your folic
acid up to normal.
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Okay good, and what
about other herbal agents
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that we could use
to increase fertility?
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Okay, one that I can say
with real certainty is back home
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when I used to be practicing
of taking care of a lot of
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infertility patients...
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We don't have a lot of
the herbs you have here
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in the States - you have
a plethora of all the herbs,
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but I had one of the
best ones; it's dong quai...
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Oh, we have that here also.
Yeah, you do have that here.
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And that was the
only one I had...
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Aside from the lifestyle,
I was really strict with the
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lifestyle - followed
these instructions to the T
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...And on top of
that, I'd give dong quai.
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Now, dong quai helps
regulate the menstrual cycle...
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Even for the man, it
also helps his hormones
00:25:07.47\00:25:10.76
so that he is able to
make the right, the optimum,
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the best sperm and the
best egg for both of them.
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Oh, so you're saying
the man takes the dong quai
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as well as the
lady. As well - yes
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If the man has problems, he
could take the dong quai as well
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And do you have some experiences
where you can testify
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that that really helped
them. Yes, a lot of times...
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A lot of times - many patients
because I was the only one
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who was going into
natural remedies around...
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I mean, the other
doctors wouldn't do it.
00:25:36.68\00:25:38.81
They would just go
straight to the drugs.
00:25:38.84\00:25:41.64
Well I usually started
first with the natural remedies,
00:25:41.67\00:25:45.15
and then if I couldn't
work on these natural remedies,
00:25:45.18\00:25:48.00
I'd go to the last
resort which were the drugs.
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But many, if not
more then they would get
00:25:50.88\00:25:53.63
pregnant here instead of there!
00:25:53.66\00:25:55.10
Now there are some who don't
believe in natural remedies!
00:25:55.14\00:25:57.98
So then they go
straight to... It's funny!
00:25:59.45\00:26:01.87
But these ones on
the natural get pregnant
00:26:01.90\00:26:05.89
faster than the ones here.
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I just don't know but
that's what I found out.
00:26:07.54\00:26:11.12
And you know, Dr. Cherie Lon,
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for some people, the
issue isn't just having a baby,
00:26:12.55\00:26:15.63
but it's really wanting a girl
or really wanting a baby boy,
00:26:15.66\00:26:20.45
and if you're at home
and the gender selection is
00:26:20.48\00:26:23.38
really an issue for
you, we'd just like to
00:26:23.41\00:26:26.02
just touch on this just
briefly that there are ways
00:26:26.05\00:26:28.45
physiologically that you
can increase your chances of
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getting the gender
that you actually want.
00:26:30.82\00:26:32.77
Can you tell us about that?
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In my practice, this is 100%...
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If when you ovulate,
you have your sexual contact
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on that day and not 3 days
before, at least 3 days before,
00:26:42.04\00:26:46.53
you will get a boy.
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So if I'm ovulating today,
I didn't have sexual contact
00:26:48.72\00:26:51.79
within 3 days of my
ovulation, I get a boy.
00:26:51.82\00:26:54.84
IF I have contact around 3
days prior to my ovulation,
00:26:54.87\00:26:59.34
I get a girl and I don't
have contact on ovulation.
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Contact before
ovulation gives you a girl.
00:27:03.55\00:27:06.00
Contact ON
ovulation gives you a boy.
00:27:06.03\00:27:08.51
There is this theology behind it
00:27:08.54\00:27:10.70
and I believe it's true because
I've seen it over and over again
00:27:10.73\00:27:15.30
Well that's very
exciting to know that.
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Of course it relies on the
fact that you have a regular
00:27:16.97\00:27:19.16
28-day cycle or that
you ovulate when you know
00:27:19.19\00:27:23.07
you're going to ovulate
so you can pinpoint that. Yes
00:27:23.10\00:27:25.69
But even if you
don't prayer can cover it
00:27:25.72\00:27:29.04
and we know that Jesus
will give us the gender
00:27:29.07\00:27:31.39
that He knows is
best for us. Exactly!
00:27:31.42\00:27:33.63
And so we can just give
Him thanks for the decision
00:27:33.66\00:27:36.21
that He is going
to make. Boy or a girl
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...is out of our control
ultimately... That's true.
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Dr. Cherie Lon, thank
you so much for joining us
00:27:40.96\00:27:43.04
on the program today.
You're welcome, my pleasure.
00:27:43.07\00:27:44.44
And we trust that
you have been blessed
00:27:44.47\00:27:46.94
with this information today,
and I've learned something.
00:27:46.97\00:27:49.75
And, I hope it going
to be of help to you -
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ladies and to your husbands...
00:27:51.92\00:27:53.62
And as you go on this
journey of seeing God's will
00:27:53.65\00:27:57.66
for you and whether to expand
your family or even just to have
00:27:57.69\00:28:00.70
your first child, put it
into His hands, trust Him.
00:28:00.73\00:28:04.68
He knows what you need and
He has promised to provide it.
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God bless you.
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