The following
program presents principles
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designed to promote good health
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and is not intended
to take the place of
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personalized professional care.
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The opinions and ideas expressed
are those of the speaker.
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Viewers are
encouraged to draw their own
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conclusions about the
information presented.
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Welcome to Wonderfully Made.
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My name is Lee
Wellard, a Lifestyle Educator
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from Wildwood Lifestyle Center.
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And today we have
with us Dr. Scott Grivas,
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welcome Dr. Grivas.
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Thank you Lee, good to be here.
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Today, we're gonna be at looking
at a very important topic,
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one that has a lot
of misunderstanding
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and one that affects the
mindset of many individuals
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who are looking at
alternative treatments.
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Today, we're gonna to be
looking at the botanical agents
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and their role in
the treatment of disease.
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Dr. Grivas, how
important is botanicals
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in the treatment
of disease today?
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And is it a good alternative
in our healthcare practices?
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Sure, I believe it is
an important alternative
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among many in the
healthcare practices.
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And it is very, very common.
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According to World
Healthful Organization data,
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4 billion people are using the
botanical medicines globally.
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Wow, here in this
country in America
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over 60 million
Americans are using some type of
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alternative medical care
including botanical medicines.
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And are very
happy with the results.
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And it's not just among
the laity, the lay people,
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the health practitioners
are becoming aware of
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the benefits of these agents.
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Dr. Heber from the
UCLA Medical School,
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who is a
university professor there,
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and professor in public health,
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has termed the
botanical medicines
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as probably the
medicine of the 21st century.
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Looking at
their lack of toxicity
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their benefits
both for prevention
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and treatment of
common lifestyle diseases.
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We are using these more and more
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and we were seeing the benefits.
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What do you think causes
the average person on the street
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to even considering an
option to use botanical agents?
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Well, I think
there are many reasons.
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If you look at what has happened
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in just the
regular healthcare line.
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Many people have lost faith
in conventional medicine alone.
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They've either not been
benefited as they had hoped for,
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or they have been
possibly harmed by
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some of the drugs
that have been given.
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And they're looking
for something that's safer,
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they're looking for something
that is not so expensive
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and something that they consider
in their mind as more natural.
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And so here comes
the botanical agents.
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And the industry
now, the herbal industry
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has coming
into, to help advocate
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the use of these
agents and it is now,
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the information is
everywhere, magazines, internet.
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You know, just wherever you go,
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this is the hot topic
is botanical medicine.
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You know, we know that
whenever we look at anything
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that has a potential
to help with the health.
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There's gotta to be
an obvious concern about,
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is this something
that's really money making?
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What is the motive behind
the people who are doing it?
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And many people are questioning
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the scientific
validity of using herbal agents.
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Do we have the data
to sustain our confidence
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that these
botanical agents really work.
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Lee, in my opinion,
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we have more
information on the botanicals
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than even we do
about the pharmaceuticals.
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You just have to know
where to look for them.
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Even in our own country,
the US agricultural service
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has a data base,
where you can go,
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you can ask
questions of a certain herb.
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They will give you all of the
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phytochemical
constituents of that herb.
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They will tell you
not only what's in it,
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but how many parts per
million are in that herb.
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They will give you the balancing
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of these
phytochemicals in the herb.
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So it's not just a
unidirectional action,
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it is balanced by others.
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They will tell you
what every phytochemical
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that has been
identified, that we know
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what is its action
in the human organism.
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I mean, this is
science at its best.
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And so the
practitioner who wants to know
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he is not left to say, oh,
well, grandma will try that
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or Uncle George try that.
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We have the knowledge
now and we should study,
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and we should now
put that knowledge
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to practical usefulness
in benefiting patients
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with this other alternative arm
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that God has given
us to help mankind.
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And do you think over the
last few years as there's been
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more awareness of the
importance of prevention.
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Do you think that more
people are willing to even
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take a risk so to
speak, in using these agents?
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Oh I think so, I
think they are open
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and especially as
we see at the same time
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this light coming
us on the botanical,
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we see the rising incidence
of adverse drug affects
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resulting in
many cases in death.
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In fact, you're
aware now that just as,
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just recently The
Institute of Medicine quoted
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in the AARP general has
identified healthcare harm
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as the third leading
cause of death in this country.
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Amazing.
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And so, when people see that
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they are saying well,
is there something else?
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Can I try something
that's not so dangerous?
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And so they're open to this.
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Let's talk for a minute
about the safety aspect.
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You know,
sometimes we hear of people
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who were overdosing or
have used an herbal agent,
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perhaps unintelligently and it's
caused a negative side effect.
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Are these things
common or are they a rarity?
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They are not nearly as common
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as they would be with
the regular pharmaceuticals.
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Right. But they can
occur and if people do not use
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a product in harmony with
the prescribing information,
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then yes there can
be some potential harm.
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But, the potential
for that is much less
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then with the pharmaceuticals.
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Right, right, now how do
we know what herbs are good,
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obviously tobacco is
not gonna be on the same par
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as something like Red Clover.
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How do they differentiate what
herb is safe and what isn't?
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The same way that
we have identified
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what drugs are
safe and what are not.
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By scientific
study, the same agency,
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The US Agricultural
Service has already put
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all that
informant together for us.
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We have classified
herbs, those that are safe
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those that are poisonous,
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those that can
be used for foods,
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those that can be
use for medicines,
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there is no question, we
should know if we're studying.
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And how do we
know, how much is safe?
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Obviously a little
child is not going to need
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the same amount as
an adult and do we have
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enough information for
the dosage of each individual.
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Oh, yes, that's
already been worked out.
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Okay, in terms of the amounts
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for children at
various age groups
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David Hoffmann, the
English investigator
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in herbal science
has done all that.
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He's got that formula for us.
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He's recommended the dosages
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for these various common plants.
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And so, I don't
believe that we need to fear
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so much about
dosings and things.
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And even on the
standardized products.
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If you're getting products
from reputable manufacturers
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of the herbs,
they will even have
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recommended
suggested dosages to use.
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Now, lets say a
healthcare practitioner,
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who knows that
or he may go outside
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of that generally recommended,
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only if he knows
the range of therapy.
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common person
without any medical knowledge
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can safely follow those
standards from the industry.
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Okay. Now what are
some of the agents,
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the chemicals in the
herbs that brings about
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are they phytochemicals,
are they minerals,
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what exactly are they?
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Yes. They are plant substances
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that the God of
heaven put there.
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Okay.
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In other words, and he knows
exactly what needs to be there.
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An herb is truly an
example of polypharmacy.
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You know, you've
heard that term. Yes.
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Now, in the regular drug line
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that has a negative connotation.
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But in the matter
of herbal agents that
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God has created
with infinite wisdom,
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He is the one who
has put this together.
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And there are many,
many agents in there
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that balance one another.
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So that when you take them
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you can get the
benefits without the toxicity
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of extracting from
that plant, concentrating it
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and then giving it
back to a human being
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and having that
potential toxic reaction.
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Now, many of
these herbal agents,
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are they found locally,
could they be in our backyard.
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Of course, do we have go
to a supermarket to get them.
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If you know, the
herbs and you study
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then you can find
many, many plants growing
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just where you are
in the natural habituate
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that you can use, or
even you can start to grow
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your own in an herb garden.
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And do you have any
herbs in your garden
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that you've just
gone out there and picked
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and made an herbal
tea or some concoction?
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We have in our own little
environment there at our home.
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We have Mullein,
which is a nice herb
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that we use for
respiratory tract infection.
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We've got plantain,
which is another nice agent
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that we use as a demulcent
in various inflammatory disease,
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Red Clover, Chickweed,
I mean just on and on.
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Thistle, I mean
it's, it's growing
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and God has
placed in every locale,
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the plants that he
knew in his fore-knowledge
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man would need
when they became ill.
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So, no matter where
we are in the world,
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what country we're
in, we can find something
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that God has
placed there. Exactly.
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So he's made provision. Sure.
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When we go overseas Lee,
and we are teaching people
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how to use the botanicals
and, and other simple remedies
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that God has given
in the hygenic line.
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We don't, we can't tell them now
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you use all of these
that we have in this country
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because they may not have them.
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Right, we have to
learn what is indigenous
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to that populations and
learn what those agents do
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and work with those
who are knowledgeable
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about the plants in that area.
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Now, do you use botanical
agents in the Lifestyle Center
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when guests come
with various conditions?
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Do you start to
incorporate some of these agents
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as part of their
treatment? Yes, certainly.
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And what effect do you see
it having upon the patients?
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As it takes some of these
agents, do you see a shift
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towards a great
improvement of health?
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Well, of course, in other words
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because this is
after God's wisdom.
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The plants, Psalms 104:14,
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the plants God placed
here for the service of man.
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And so in a
therapeutic regiment obviously
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there is a place
for the plant medicines
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and as we use them
in conjunction first
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with lifestyle change,
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correcting the
abnormal behavior in, in habits.
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So that now we
have removed the block,
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the Lord can now bring
in the right lifestyle,
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then we assist
nature in her recovery.
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And in that assisting
nature we use a lot of the
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hygienic methods, hydrotherapy,
botanical medicines.
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And as those changes
now began to take place
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in the individual, then
it often results in much
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less need for the
medicine that they were taking.
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So we can
gradually under observation
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start to withdraw
those pharmaceuticals
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and rely more and more
upon the simple plants.
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So someone is on a bad lifestyle
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and they, they don't
wanna make these changes
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but they're interested
in using botanical agents,
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will it have an
affect on those individuals?
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I would not say it
wouldn't have any affect,
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but I would tell them
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they're not going to
experience the healing,
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that you are hoping
for just by using herbs.
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You have got to go back
to what cause of the problem
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and correct that with
lifestyle intervention.
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And then you can
anticipate that the Lord
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will work
through the simple things
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that He has made
to bring us health.
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So we don't use the
herbal agents like a magic pill
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to fix this
problem and that problem.
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No. Dr. Grivas,
you've been trained in
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Conventional Medical
School, was this something
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that they taught
you in medical school
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or how did you get
involved in this? I'm curious.
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No. We did not learn
that when I was in school
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and that was a
number of years ago.
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We were taught
conventional pharmacology.
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And as we've talked
before in other programs,
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there is a place for
that. But to transition from
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the total reliance
on drug medications in a
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therapeutic regiment,
over to lifestyle change
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and the use of hygienic
methods, that do not tax
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or debilitate the
system. That takes a retraining
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even for physicians.
And that's what we do
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a lot at our lifestyle center.
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Those physicians
that are interested in
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learning God's plan
for ministry will often
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come to the
institution and work with our
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physicians to be able
to see how to transitions
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from this complete
reliance on the traditional
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pharmacologic agents
to other hygienic methods.
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Now, how hard was it
for you as a physician
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not having a background in this,
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trying to even get involved.
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I mean, it was a leap
of faith, what actually
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happened to get you that point.
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Well, certainly
faith is necessary,
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because faith motivates, right?
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That's right. And
when I would read the
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miracles of healing
that are recorded here.
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Like with King
Hezekiah, you remember when he
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was dying and God
directed the prophet
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Isaiah to take the plaster
of figs and place upon that,
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we think a malignant boil.
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We read about how
Jesus healed the blind
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man with the
water, the clay, you know,
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Naaman, how he was
healed with water therapy,
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you know. That's
right. Dipping in the Jordan.
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That challenged
me, because I certainly
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didn't know anything
about that, but I was
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wanting to learn.
God put that burning
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in my heart to,
Lord, how can we do this
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working with you and
there is a science to this.
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Just like there is a
science to salvation.
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And so, I started with
not a whole lot in hand.
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I had different
herb books but they were
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books that were
written not by professional
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people at all, but
by local native people.
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And I was a little
reluctant to just grab those.
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Now if I wanted to
use them that was okay,
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but that's my
choice, but to take those
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and then give them to
patients who were coming to me.
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That I could not do
until I had more information.
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Right, and then I
began to investigate in the
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earliest book I
can remember obtaining
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was written with
some bibliographies at the
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end from European
literature where they
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studied these herbs a lot more
than we have in this country.
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And I was so
thankful, because now I had
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some science behind
this. And then I could feel
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more confident that
I could tell a patient,
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now this has been
studied, this has been
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investigated, this
is the dose and here
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should be the expected outcome.
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Now, I feel
comfortable with that.
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Did you ever get to a
point where you started
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to introduce certain
things and maybe had a
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bad reaction, and it
sort of took you back a little
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bit by surprise with
any experiences like that or
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did you see a
consistent progression of health
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for the
individuals who were taking.
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I think any, any ill
affects would probably
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not be because of
the agent, but because of
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my inexperience,
I see it being able
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to use it wisely, right, okay.
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Right, so, it took
probably a number of
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years to get that
background and that
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confidence before
you can start to withdraw
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certain things and to
or so offer suggestions of
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even treatments for
these botanical agents.
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That's why they call
it medical practice. Okay.
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And you are still practicing.
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Still practicing
and still praying.
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Okay. Alright, I
don't want to make any
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mistakes, I want
people to get better, right,
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under every therapeutic
plant that the Lord has.
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So you really study your herbs,
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really well before
you even recommend them.
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You have to, you
have to know this.
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And how do the
patients respond when
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you start to even
mention about herbal
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agents, are they as excited
in these things as you are.
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Many are. In fact
they come to our center
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many of them because
they have heard that we
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use more natural remedies.
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But others come,
and they're not so sure.
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But with giving
them time not forcing,
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we are not pushing
anything on people.
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Whatever, they have if
they wanna stay with it,
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we certainly allow that
too. But we are educating,
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right, we are
trying to help people to
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understand God's plan
for total health recovery
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and restoration
to a whole being.
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Right, so our role as,
as in your situation dealing
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with these patients
as a physician is to,
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increase the
education rather than just give
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them medication.
And I think that's
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important for us to
remember that if we can
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swallow a little education.
We can't avoid a lot of
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medication that
may not be required,
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because we're
following a healthier lifestyle.
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Exactly. And so these botanical
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agents have
powerful properties too,
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in many cases
reversed not just prevent,
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we're not using it
for preventative role so
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much shall we?
We're use in a more
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as way of
treatment. Well, we also use in
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preventive; they can be
used for immune enhancement.
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Okay. Okay, and
things like that,
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if we like will be
shortly taking a trip to Africa
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and I will use some
of these in terms of
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preventions of some of
these disease that are there.
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I see, okay now there
were maybe someone watching,
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maybe thinking you
probably have to have
00:21:06.17\00:21:09.71
faith for these things to work.
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Is that the case, if
the person doesn't have any
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faith at all, maybe
they're not even interest
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in using these
items? Well, I think faith
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always is helpful in healing.
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You remember when
Jesus told the lady that
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touched his garment,
Daughter; thy faith has
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made thee whole.
And frequently He would
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say according to your
faith let it be unto you.
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Right. But no,
God has put antidotes
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for disease in the
plants. Now, I believe that if
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we use those plants in
a faith connection with
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Christ asking Him to
bless these, then we will
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see far greater advantage.
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Then if we tried to
use them without inviting
00:21:52.89\00:21:56.43
his presence there
for the healing you see.
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Yes, because
well it's like a seed,
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when you put seed in a ground.
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Often people just think
well it just grows right,
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it just grows. But now God
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has to call forth the
life of that seed. Right.
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Okay, to spring forth
to bring the fruit to feed
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the people, right.
And we should recognize
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that behind every good
intervention God is there.
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Right, amen. Trying to
bring healing and health.
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Amen, now for
those who are listening
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and starting to get
a little encouragement
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towards the use
of botanical agents,
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how would you
suggest they get started?
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What resources could they use?
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Where would they go?
Many of the health stores,
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the libraries now,
the books stores will have
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plants, herbal plants
available in book form
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with a lot of the
scientific information
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about it,
listed. The common book
00:22:58.68\00:23:01.26
stores even, Barnes
& Nobles and some of
00:23:01.27\00:23:03.41
these like will,
it will have them.
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So, I would suggest
that they try to get a book
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on the herbal
medicines that is scientific;
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it's backed up by true science.
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And it for the
viewers, if you would like to
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have a website that you
can go to, to explore the
00:23:20.13\00:23:24.74
agricultural
database, the USA agricultural
00:23:24.95\00:23:28.71
service database.
You can just simply
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go to your search
engine whatever it is
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and type in James Duke, D-U-K-E.
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He was the Primary Investigator.
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And then you click into that
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and up will
come a phytochemical,
00:23:40.83\00:23:44.34
ethnobotanical
base there you flick in.
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And then you enter
that, and you can explore as
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much as you want
these herbal medicines.
00:23:51.89\00:23:53.81
And that gives you
this scientific information.
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Oh! Yes. How these
work, what chemicals
00:23:55.91\00:23:58.04
are in what plants? Exactly.
00:23:58.05\00:24:00.11
And so on. Dr.
Grivas when we're looking at
00:24:00.12\00:24:04.34
using a simple botanical
agents and especially if
00:24:04.59\00:24:09.94
we haven't use them before do,
00:24:09.95\00:24:12.36
do you recommend
milder herb in the
00:24:12.56\00:24:16.16
beginning, you know a
herb that is well known,
00:24:16.17\00:24:18.88
is quite popular. Sure.
00:24:18.89\00:24:20.21
Rather than something
that is maybe a little more.
00:24:20.97\00:24:24.01
Abstract, not much scientific
00:24:24.66\00:24:26.75
studies being
done there. Exactly,
00:24:26.76\00:24:28.21
and only those herbs
that we know are safe.
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Right. We don't want
to experiment on patients
00:24:31.77\00:24:35.54
with unsafe agents.
We want to know those
00:24:35.99\00:24:38.84
that have been tried
and tested and here is
00:24:38.85\00:24:41.53
the affect, toxicity
data is available and if there
00:24:41.54\00:24:46.38
is any problem, we
know about it ahead of time.
00:24:46.39\00:24:49.38
So, if we stay with
that and we stay within the
00:24:49.80\00:24:53.27
dosages that are recommended.
00:24:53.28\00:24:55.82
I think that there is
minimal risk to patients.
00:24:56.36\00:25:00.16
It's when we
start experimenting in,
00:25:00.53\00:25:03.06
in dosages that are
not recommended or with
00:25:03.26\00:25:05.93
plants that we know
have not been tested for
00:25:05.94\00:25:08.67
safety, then we
get into trouble.
00:25:08.68\00:25:10.62
Right I see, so
really we need to use them
00:25:10.82\00:25:13.50
intelligently. Yes,
we need, need to follow
00:25:13.51\00:25:16.33
safe guidelines, make
sure the perimeters are
00:25:16.34\00:25:19.42
covered and if
you are and need to
00:25:19.43\00:25:23.38
know more
information about plants.
00:25:23.61\00:25:25.39
So you have a
question mark over.
00:25:25.40\00:25:27.10
What you're
really saying is, there's
00:25:27.41\00:25:28.44
enough information
out there to find out
00:25:29.02\00:25:31.55
whether these herbal
agents are safe or not.
00:25:31.56\00:25:34.45
And we need a correct diagnosis;
00:25:34.60\00:25:36.80
this is where
physicians are very important.
00:25:37.26\00:25:40.05
We don't go to the
corner herb shop to find
00:25:40.67\00:25:45.16
out what's wrong with
us. Right, all right we need
00:25:45.17\00:25:48.05
physicians that
understand this body to
00:25:48.06\00:25:50.83
make correct diagnosis
and then if we chose to
00:25:50.84\00:25:54.24
use a simpler
agent then we can do so.
00:25:54.25\00:25:57.51
But always with an
understudying of what
00:25:57.90\00:26:01.86
is the problem and how can
00:26:02.07\00:26:04.07
we then go about to correct it.
00:26:04.08\00:26:05.86
Right, so herbal
agents have a useful place in
00:26:05.87\00:26:10.03
the treatment,
although we don't,
00:26:10.04\00:26:11.70
it doesn't cause us to neglect
00:26:11.71\00:26:14.47
other message of
healing. And especially using
00:26:15.12\00:26:19.07
medical professionals, who have
00:26:19.84\00:26:21.36
experience in
diagnosis. And sometimes it may
00:26:21.37\00:26:25.00
not be that we
need that herbal agent.
00:26:25.01\00:26:27.42
That's right. And
we could use something
00:26:27.43\00:26:29.41
that's more appropriate.
Now, are there several
00:26:29.72\00:26:34.30
different kinds of
herbs that we could take that
00:26:34.31\00:26:36.50
produce the same
affect. Oh! Yes, it's like food.
00:26:36.51\00:26:39.26
In other words the
Lord has placed in the,
00:26:40.22\00:26:42.81
the herbal agents, multiplicity
00:26:42.99\00:26:45.26
of things that
overlap. So you'll find one herb
00:26:45.27\00:26:47.81
having these phytochemicals,
00:26:47.82\00:26:50.03
another herb will
have a few different,
00:26:50.04\00:26:51.81
but the same that some
as the same that we find
00:26:51.82\00:26:55.55
in another and they'll overlap.
00:26:55.56\00:26:57.18
And so, it's not that
every, it's just every
00:26:57.83\00:27:00.60
herb is distinct, it
has nothing in common, no,
00:27:00.61\00:27:03.17
there is a lot of
overlap in the plants.
00:27:03.18\00:27:05.21
As we've discussed
the useful treatment,
00:27:05.73\00:27:09.11
well the intelligent
use of treatment when it
00:27:10.10\00:27:11.92
comes to botanical
agents. I hope it's been an
00:27:11.93\00:27:14.82
encouragement to
you, as you've looked at
00:27:14.83\00:27:17.27
some of the
things that you can do,
00:27:17.28\00:27:18.71
maybe some of these
agents in your backyard.
00:27:18.87\00:27:21.25
I hope it's encouraged
you to educate yourself
00:27:21.31\00:27:24.60
towards learning more
about these things that
00:27:25.05\00:27:27.69
you can help yourself in
the recovery towards health.
00:27:27.70\00:27:30.91
And please be
aware that if you are
00:27:31.34\00:27:33.43
introducing
botanical agents and you have
00:27:34.05\00:27:36.52
a chronic illness and
you've been treated by
00:27:36.88\00:27:39.13
a physician.
Please make sure that
00:27:39.14\00:27:41.43
you let that
physician know of any botanical
00:27:41.44\00:27:44.44
agents that you are introducing.
00:27:44.45\00:27:46.15
We wanna make sure
we're following safe
00:27:46.67\00:27:48.57
guidelines as it comes to using
00:27:48.58\00:27:50.80
these botanical
agents. I hope this program has
00:27:51.23\00:27:54.11
been a blessing to
you, please join us again
00:27:54.12\00:27:57.04
next time on anther program of
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Wonderfully Made.
My name is Lee Wellard,
00:27:59.55\00:28:01.86
from Wildwood Lifestyle Center.
00:28:01.87\00:28:03.21
And please keep in mind
that your body is His temple.
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