The following
program presents principles
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designed to promote good health
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and is not
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of personalized
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are those of the speaker.
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Welcome to Wonderfully Made,
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your host for
today is Lee Wellard,
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a lifestyle educator from
Wildwood Lifestyle Center.
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And today we have on
the set Dr. Scott Grivas,
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thank you for
joining us today. Thank you.
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We are going to
be looking at a very
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important topic
today, one that is,
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one of the most
fastest growing debilitating
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conditions in our world today,
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we are going to
looking at diabetes,
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but in the contest of
the good news of diabetes.
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Dr. Grivas let's
just start the program
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by finding out how
prevalent is diabetes,
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is it something
that's on the decrease?
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What is it today?
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I wish I could
say that it is Lee,
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but unfortunately no,
diabetes is increasing
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almost daily. I think
the last estimate that
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I read was probably
close to 24 million Americans
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are afflicted with this disease.
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And also it is
occurring in younger ages now,
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even in children.
Now tell us what are some
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of the signs and
symptoms of diabetes?
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It can vary some
actually have very little
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in the way of
presenting symptoms.
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But, others may
represent excessive thirst,
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increased
urination, sometimes weight
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loss actually.
Because of an ability
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to metabolize
carbohydrates, fatigue,
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just general
debility and weakness.
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Now, there are
millions of Americans
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I believe that have
diabetes but not even
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aware that they
have this problem.
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How can these
people identify that
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they do have a problem,
or do they often just wait
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too long before they
do something about it?
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You know if you're
not feeling bad you don't
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usually go for
checkups that's the tendency.
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But, yes by simply
going to your physician
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or to a health
clinic and having your
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blood sugar
checked. You can pretty much
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tell whether or not you have
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problems with
glucose metabolism.
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Right, lets just talk
about glucose for a minute,
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what is
considered a diabetic range
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when we're talking
of blood sugar levels?
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For fasting levels of
blood glucose over 125
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would be considered
in the diabetic range.
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Pre-diabetes probably some where
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between a 100 and
125 in a fasting state
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Now, when we're
talking about pre-diabetes
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we are talking
about not full blown,
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we're not there yet but
we're actually on our way,
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exactly. So, that
can be just as dangerous
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so to speak then
someone who maybe
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is on the low side
of diabetic but they,
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they're not even aware that
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they have that
problem. It shows you,
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you're on the
wrong path, and you need
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to make some lifestyle changes.
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Right and as sugar
levels change from time to time,
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so we may have a
high blood sugar level at
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one point but then
it may not necessitate
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that in fact we have
diabetes but at the same
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time it could mean
that you know we are well
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on the way to developing
a lot of the complications
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that diabetics
have, sure. Now let's talk
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about some of the complications.
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What are the most
serious complications
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that diabetics face today?
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Well, there are two
class of complications
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for the diabetic, we
call them macrovascular
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and microvascular
because most of the
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damage occurs in the vessels,
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the large vessel complications,
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we lump together as
heart attacks, strokes,
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peripheral
vascular disease involving
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the extremities
that often end in
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gangrenous limbs,
amputations etcetera.
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The microvascular
complications would be
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problems with the
eyes. We call it retinopathy,
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an involvement of the
small vessels of the eye.
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The small vessels
that go into the kidney
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that result in the
term is nephropathy
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or kidney insufficiency.
And this leads to a very,
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very high incidence of
end stage renal failure
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and dialysis complications.
The other would be
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neuropathy, the
small vessels that
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carry blood to the nerves.
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They're impaired and so
you start to get ischemic
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or a lack of blood
changes to those nerves
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and they begin to malfunction,
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results in pain,
discomfiture in the
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legs and feet. A
feeling of burnings,
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sometimes
numbness, just discomfort.
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Now, let's get to the,
the cause of the problem
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we've seen diabetes
dramatically increase
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especially around the mid 1990s.
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What do you believe is the cause
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or the causes of this problem?
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Well, you know we
used to think that diabetes
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was a sugar disease, right.
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But, as our
understating has increased
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we understand
that's really not the case,
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the complication
is rising blood sugar.
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But, basically leads
it's too many calories
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too much fat in the
diet especially animal fats.
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And as people get
larger and larger,
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they develop more
resistance to their
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indigenous production of
insulin, and so you can't
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get glucose into the
cell and so the cell then
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it starts from its
fuel source but the
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blood sugar begins to raise in
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the blood
circulation and this is what is
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very damaging,
right to the vessels.
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Now I understand
that not all fats are
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created equal, so
when we talking about fats
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what particular fats that
we're really taking about?
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Primarily the animal
fats, cholesterol saturated
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fats that we find that
Americans are consuming
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in such a large
quantities today.
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Right, right and what
you believe has contributed
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to us consuming
more of these fats?
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Well, we now have an
increase in the fast foods
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that are being offered to people
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as a food substitute.
And we've also gone step away
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from ingesting our food
in the most natural way,
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we're processing, we
are adding things to our
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foods and so forth. So,
it is not just as the Lord
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originally gave us,
right. We have a lot of
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added sugars, a
lot of added fats
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and so forth animal fats.
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It was interesting
to me when I came across
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some research about the
island of Crete in Greece
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that they have 40
percent of their calories
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from fat and yet they
have one of the lowest
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incidence of heart
disease in the world
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simply because of the
type of fat that they were
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using was predominantly
plant-based, yes such as
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the olive and so this
can be more of a protective
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role rather than
getting these other types
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of denatured fats in
more of a process form.
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Sure, now let's talk
for a minute about some
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of the medications
that people are on,
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it's predominately
insulin or metformin.
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What are some of the
complications that could
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arise with people
using these for long term?
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Well, earlier on
when we first began using
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the oral glucose
agents, we found studies
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showing that there
was actually an increase,
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a raise in the cardiovascular
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complications with diabetes.
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And increased deaths, we
are still though primarily
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using agents that are
like the Sulfonylurea drugs
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that actually help to
stimulate insulin release
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and secretion by the pancreas.
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We now have those
that are called insulin
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sensitizers that try
to help with decreasing
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the insulin
resistance at a cellular level.
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We do have new agents,
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now we've got
they what are they call
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the incretins, which
are to, they're given by
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injection to help
stimulate insulin secretion
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via hormonal pathways
in the digestive system.
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Anyway we have insulin.
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We've got other
agents that help to retard
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the breakdown of carbohydrates
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in the GI tract, but
with all of those agents
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especially the drug agents.
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Not so much the
insulin, there is a raising
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incidents of side-effects
from changing in changes
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in electrolyte,
balance in the blood, nausea,
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GI tract, disturbances
like diarrhea with some
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of these agents. Metformin
a very common agent now,
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one of the biggest
problems there is the
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incidence of what we
call like lactic acidosis.
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So, we have to
be very careful that
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these people are
warned when they are on
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this medication. If they
get like a febrile illness,
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if they become sick
in anyway if they take
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contrast media, that
these patients have to be
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taken off these mediations ahead
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or during the time
their illness that they don't
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proceed into this very
critical acidosis state
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where people
actually can lose their lives.
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Right, and we know that
diabetes is a very serious
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disease because
of the complications
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and 80 percent of
people who have diabetes
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are dying from heart disease.
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Why do we see such
a high prevalence of
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heart disease been
associated with diabetes?
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Well, with
insulin resistance which
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takes place in the
diabetic you get a lot
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of changes Lee,
that takes place in the
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actual a blood parameters.
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There is raise
in fibrinogen levels
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which is a
protein precursor to form
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clots in the blood.
We have a problem with
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increase inflammatory
changes in the walls
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of the vessels
with insulin resistance,
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we can measure with
this by such parameters
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in the blood is
CRP, C-reactive protein.
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So, there is an
inflammatory damage
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done with
increase in free-radicals
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in the diabetic.
This is all changing the
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normal blood
flow and blood supply.
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You're building up
now plaque in the walls
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of the vessels,
there is a raise in
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cholesterol synthesis,
a raise in LDL cholesterol
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in the diabetic. A lowering of
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HDL the good cholesterol
and all of these things
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are contributing to
a impairment of blood
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supply to the
organs. And for the heart
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or to the brain that
results in the coronary
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artery disease, the
carotid artery disease
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which leads to
stroke and so forth.
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Would you say
that the biggest factor
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of causing diabetes
would be one's diet.
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It is, yes
probably one of the biggest,
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now there are
certainly we have to recognize
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genetic vulnerabilities.
Diabetes does have
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certain
clustering according to that
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genetic background.
But, given the wrong
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lifestyle with that
genetic pre-disposition
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then that's where
you get into trouble.
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Right, so you're
saying that genetics really
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low again the
lifestyle pulls the trigger,
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and in your experience
you've been a physician
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for many years.
You've had a lot of people
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come through
Wildwood and had treatment
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as a diabetic, in
fact I believe diabetes
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is one of most common
things that we're dealing
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with on a day to day
basis. How successful
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have you seen
people change especially
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with the sugar level
once they make these changes.
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Yeah, some change quite quickly
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and dramatically. I
remember one individual
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that came to us he
was on over a 100 units
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of insulin a day.
And we worked with him,
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changing the
lifestyle parameters, the diet,
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getting more
exercise, weight reduction
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and within a
three week period Lee,
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he was off of all insulin
with normal blood sugars.
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And I wish I could
tell you that was end
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of the story, but he went home
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and he thought
I'm doing so well,
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I'll just go back and
start having a little bit
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of the other type
of lifestyle and within
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some months he
was right back again
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in our center again on
the same amount of insulin.
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But, the Lord is good
and very patient with us
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and again we worked with him
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and the same thing happened.
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He came off of his
insulin. He had normal glucose
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levels and he was
very, very thankful, amen.
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When he went
home I'm hoping that
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he continued to
stay with the program,
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praise the Lord.
Others may not always have
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that dramatic
change and I would want to
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encourage
anyone who has diabetes
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not to be disappointed.
If at first, you're not
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seeing those
kinds of changes because
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you know nature's way
of healing are gradual,
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right, these
processes and even though
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the Lord is
orchestrating all of this.
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We didn't get
sick over night, right
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and may not be that
overnight we are seeing
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everything just
coming back to normal.
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But, for those
people who will persevere
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with a good
lifestyle change program,
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it's not a question
of if there is gonna be
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improvement we know
there will be, right.
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It's just giving
the Lord time to work
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in these bodies.
Right, and it seems the ones
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that are, that are
further off the path
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they were on a
terrible program that
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seem to do
better, as they make some
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of those changes,
I remember we were at
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the Kansas city doing a program
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and we had a gentlemen
that came in, and I call
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him a walking time
bomb, you could hear
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him come in, you
could hear him labor,
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every breath he
took you could hear.
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And he had so
much medicine with him,
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he used to carry
around a bag of medicine,
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you can make
breakfast cereal out of all
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these medicines. I
mean he would take two hours
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just to put his
medications in the
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right order, yeah.
And I was afraid to tell
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him of some
lifestyle changes because
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I felt well if he
changes too rapidly he could
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brought them out, and
he could go into a coma.
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And anyway we
worked with this gentleman
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and in just five
days, he went from 202 units
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of insulin that
was a minimum he took,
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202 to 225 plus
2000 mg of metformin.
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He was off 200
units in just five days,
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and it was
astounding to me just chaining
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his diet alone, he wasn't even
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up to exercising yet.
But, it was amazing to see
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that and so for
those who maybe on a good
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program already
you may not see as much
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change but if you
keep persisting God surely
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will bless and I
think that's a message
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we want to get through.
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What is the danger of
leaving things too long,
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you know often we
get people come into the
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lifestyle center,
they've already been have
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warning after
warning and they've just kept
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pushing themselves
and nature has given
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away what are some of
the dangers of leaving
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things too late from a
blood sugar perspective?
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Well, the more
damage that you accrue over
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the years then
the harder it is to
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see that reversal.
And for the diabetic like
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let's take the type II diabetic,
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their primary
problem initially is insulin
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resistance now they
may have a little bit
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of beta cell abnormality,
that's the cells that
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produce the
insulin in the pancreas.
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They may have a
little dysfunction,
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but the longer that
this process of insulin
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resistance goes on
and the blood sugars
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are remaining
higher there is an element
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of glucose toxicity
that ends up in damaging
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even the pancreas,
right. So, that there is last
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production of
insulin, so now you've got two
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major problems you
see, not just insulin
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resistance but
now you've got lower
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levels of insulin.
And so we have to caution
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people that the
earlier you can intervene
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in these abnormal
metabolic processes.
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The easier it is to
see return to normal,
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yes, the Lord can do
anything right? Amen,
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and He can reverse
even those individuals
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that are way far
advanced, if that's well,
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but we don't
wanna attempt the Lord.
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We want to try to do everything
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we can as early
as we can to prevent
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further damage in the body.
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And I believe the
studies are showing
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that the average
person that is getting
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diagnosed as a
diabetic has already wiped out
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a half of the beta
cell function that make the
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insulin to help
control the blood sugar.
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So, it pays to
get it early, amen.
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Let's talk a little
bit about some of the
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common misunderstandings
of diabetes you know often
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we hear about that,
we shouldn't have fruit
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in our diet, as a diabetic
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could you maybe
elaborate a little one that?
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well the concern
is in the diabetic
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is the fat, we've
talked about that,
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but also the
simple sugars, free sugars
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we call them. That
are not complex as the
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Lord has made them with fiber
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and other plant
material. Fruits, yes,
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a diabetic has
to be careful with,
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you can't eat too
much, but fruits are so good.
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They have so many antioxidants,
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so many vitamins and
the diabetic needs those.
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So, we don't limit
the use of fruits and say,
00:20:05.47\00:20:11.00
a diabetic should
never have fruits.
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We have to fat rate
into their carbohydrate plan.
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But, the main areas
that we want the diabetic
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to avoid are
those simple sugars.
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That are often
added to processed foods
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that are in the confectioneries,
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the baked items, the
pies you now the cakes,
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the cookies
those kinds of things.
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But, complex carbohydrates that
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is the sugars that are
the complexed with the fiber
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and other plant
material. The diabetic needs
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those and we encourage those.
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And it's important to
have that fiber in the fruit,
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it help time release
the sugar into the cell.
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You know some
diabetes like to use juicing,
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is that any problem
to the sugar levels?
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Well, very definitely
because when you juice
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unless you have that
fiber, if you're juicing
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and you're removing
all that fiber then you've
00:21:06.29\00:21:08.39
got a liquid medium
with glucose that would
00:21:08.40\00:21:10.86
just go directly
into the blood system,
00:21:10.87\00:21:14.13
the stream and
raise your blood sugar
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to higher
levels after ingestion.
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So, we don't encourage
juices for the diabetic.
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Right, now why
would we often put even
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diabetics on a two
meal a day program.
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You know some people
will be quite concerned
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about that, we
often here about having
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five or six meals a
day, it's very common
00:21:34.67\00:21:37.86
knowledge that
people need to be on this
00:21:37.87\00:21:41.63
program so they
don't burn them out
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and that's often the
concern of the physician.
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Can people last on a
two meal a day program,
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is that best for even the sugar
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level of the
diabetic? By all means two meals
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are better then
three especially for those
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who are over their ideal weight.
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What we have to make
certain though is that
00:22:00.65\00:22:03.75
when we do that
we are cutting back
00:22:03.76\00:22:06.29
on their medications.
Whether it's the drugs
00:22:06.82\00:22:09.84
or the insulin or
whatever we're giving,
00:22:09.85\00:22:12.88
and this is where
it's very necessary for
00:22:12.89\00:22:15.32
a person who is
making these changes
00:22:15.33\00:22:17.42
to be under some
medical surveillance.
00:22:17.82\00:22:20.73
So, that we can adjust
the medication appropriate
00:22:21.13\00:22:26.58
to their dietary
intake, sometimes we almost
00:22:26.59\00:22:31.74
fall into this category
of chasing the food intake
00:22:31.75\00:22:36.24
with the medicines by
the insulin you see, right.
00:22:36.45\00:22:39.31
But, if you will cut
that back then you can also
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then cut back on the
amount of food consumed
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and if it is
primarily plant-based you've
00:22:46.93\00:22:49.76
gotten a lot more
fiber it's lower in calories
00:22:49.77\00:22:52.75
and the diabetic then
can lose weight better,
00:22:52.76\00:22:55.82
which is the
primary problem you remember
00:22:56.46\00:22:59.06
the increased
weight has contributed
00:22:59.07\00:23:01.05
to the insulin resistance.
So, you're helping them
00:23:01.06\00:23:03.85
to lose weight as
well as controlling
00:23:03.86\00:23:07.11
the blood sugar. I
think it's important to also
00:23:07.12\00:23:10.73
keep in mind that if
you do go low that don't
00:23:10.74\00:23:14.55
starve yourself
either, if you need something
00:23:14.56\00:23:16.97
to pickup your sugar
level temporally to get
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you back on track,
sure. Now someone that's
00:23:19.86\00:23:22.82
looking at this
from home they maybe
00:23:22.83\00:23:24.46
wondering how do I
get on this program
00:23:24.47\00:23:26.94
you know they may
desire to get off some
00:23:27.25\00:23:29.97
of the medication
as they make some of
00:23:29.98\00:23:31.87
these lifestyle
changes, how do you as physician
00:23:31.88\00:23:35.20
know when it safe to
transition people from
00:23:35.21\00:23:39.71
you know medication
on to you know to reduce
00:23:41.00\00:23:44.50
that and to be
able to have confidence
00:23:44.51\00:23:47.88
so they able to
continue on a safe program.
00:23:47.89\00:23:51.15
Well, first of all
Lee would suggest that
00:23:52.47\00:23:55.31
no diabetic that's on
a treatment plan change
00:23:55.32\00:24:01.58
that plan
without first consulting
00:24:01.59\00:24:03.60
with their
physicians, amen. So, that the
00:24:03.61\00:24:05.61
physician knows exactly
what this person is doing,
00:24:05.62\00:24:08.40
even in dietary
changes. What I also though
00:24:08.41\00:24:13.92
might recommend is
that for those who lets say
00:24:13.93\00:24:18.19
can't find that's
support system in a home place,
00:24:18.20\00:24:23.88
that coming to a lifestyle
center where physicians
00:24:24.25\00:24:28.06
who are well trained
in lifestyle medicine
00:24:28.07\00:24:30.67
can address these
patients and their needs
00:24:31.04\00:24:33.38
individually
entailer a plan from the
00:24:33.39\00:24:36.67
nutritional aspect,
exercise, you know all of
00:24:36.68\00:24:41.00
these lifestyle changes
with a gradual reduction
00:24:41.01\00:24:45.14
in medications
while we maybe also adding
00:24:45.15\00:24:49.76
some other
natural agents that may
00:24:49.77\00:24:53.00
help with the
blood sugar control.
00:24:53.01\00:24:54.73
So, when people
come to lifestyle center
00:24:55.03\00:24:58.05
such as Wildwood we
don't just immediately
00:24:58.06\00:25:00.59
cut them off,
definitely, the medication but
00:25:00.60\00:25:03.21
we're trying to
make lifestyle changes
00:25:03.22\00:25:05.76
while we're reducing
some of these medication.
00:25:05.77\00:25:08.46
As we see improvement
taking place in individual,
00:25:08.47\00:25:11.00
sure. Now let's talk
for a moment for about
00:25:11.01\00:25:13.81
the spiritual
motivation of a diabetic
00:25:13.82\00:25:18.11
and this would go
for every condition.
00:25:18.12\00:25:20.18
Well, how important
do you see the spiritual
00:25:21.84\00:25:24.66
component in making
changes to one's lifestyle?
00:25:24.67\00:25:28.65
I see it as very
key, because we can
00:25:29.74\00:25:33.67
educate people,
we can tell them what
00:25:33.99\00:25:36.49
to do. But, the
problem often is they
00:25:36.50\00:25:41.26
cannot find the
strength to follow through,
00:25:41.27\00:25:43.92
right. And this is
where only that relationship
00:25:44.24\00:25:47.83
with Christ can give
them that divine power.
00:25:47.84\00:25:50.91
They may want to
do well, they may
00:25:51.51\00:25:54.06
try to do well, but
they often find themselves
00:25:54.07\00:25:57.61
falling back into
those old patterns.
00:25:58.53\00:26:01.01
And so we tell our
patients look we're not
00:26:01.92\00:26:04.50
interested in
just trying harder.
00:26:04.51\00:26:06.43
But, we will
encourage them to make this
00:26:07.26\00:26:10.57
lifestyle change
a matter of prayer
00:26:10.58\00:26:13.06
and to discuss this
with the Lord and ask him
00:26:13.07\00:26:16.20
for special grace
to change these habits
00:26:16.21\00:26:19.74
because we can't
really change ourselves,
00:26:19.75\00:26:21.56
only the Lord can do that.
00:26:21.97\00:26:23.19
Right, I think
that's a very point to those
00:26:23.20\00:26:26.60
who are listening
that our confidence really
00:26:26.61\00:26:29.21
has to be in a pie
outside of ourselves
00:26:29.22\00:26:31.38
because we ourselves
got us into a situation
00:26:31.39\00:26:35.25
where we don't
have the strength,
00:26:35.26\00:26:37.28
we don't have the
ability to change.
00:26:37.29\00:26:40.03
But as we lean on
Him, as we trust in Him
00:26:40.04\00:26:42.74
then we see the motivation comes
00:26:43.30\00:26:46.40
to be able to
make those changes.
00:26:46.41\00:26:48.27
Alright, maybe you
could share a little bit
00:26:48.28\00:26:51.55
from your background
you've seen many people
00:26:52.01\00:26:54.30
who've come they
followed the program
00:26:54.31\00:26:56.66
and they've started
to make some of these
00:26:57.21\00:26:59.56
changes and of course
everyone comes different
00:26:59.57\00:27:03.44
you know with
different problems,
00:27:04.18\00:27:05.93
different
severity and the condition,
00:27:05.94\00:27:07.60
but what do you see
is the difference between
00:27:07.97\00:27:10.00
those who are on a good program
00:27:10.01\00:27:13.39
and you know they've
made some of these changes
00:27:13.92\00:27:16.89
but aren't doing as
well, compared to those
00:27:16.90\00:27:19.90
who were really
seem to go all the way,
00:27:19.91\00:27:21.67
what seems to be
the main difference?
00:27:21.68\00:27:23.56
When people leave our
center, they then go back
00:27:24.39\00:27:28.99
in to their home environment
00:27:32.39\00:27:33.36
Where things are
not always as conducive
00:27:33.37\00:27:35.13
to making changes.
Right. They will often encounter
00:27:35.14\00:27:41.00
let's say added stress
from their work programs,
00:27:41.01\00:27:46.92
schedules are not as
easy for them to follow
00:27:46.93\00:27:49.91
like with exercise
routine and so fourth
00:27:49.92\00:27:52.50
and so just making
sure that they're sticking
00:27:52.86\00:27:55.88
to the program
when they go home,
00:27:55.89\00:27:58.16
this is what will
make the difference.
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This is Lee Wellard,
Wildwood Lifestyle Center.
00:28:00.78\00:28:03.26
Thank you for joining us today,
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