The following program presents principles 00:00:01.98\00:00:02.95 designed to promote good health 00:00:02.96\00:00:03.94 and is not intended to take the place 00:00:04.24\00:00:05.81 of personalized professional care. 00:00:05.84\00:00:07.67 The opinions and the ideas expressed 00:00:08.16\00:00:10.11 are those of the speaker. 00:00:10.14\00:00:11.44 Viewers are encouraged to draw their own 00:00:11.47\00:00:13.68 conclusions about the information presented. 00:00:13.71\00:00:15.94 Welcome to Wonderfully Made. 00:00:36.55\00:00:38.01 I'm glad you joined us. I'm your host Claudio 00:00:38.04\00:00:40.70 Japas a Doctoral Student at Loma Linda University 00:00:40.73\00:00:43.68 in the Preventive Care Program. 00:00:44.04\00:00:45.45 In Wonderfully Made, we want to make sure 00:00:45.84\00:00:48.32 you understand that God has created the human body 00:00:48.35\00:00:50.70 as an intricate and marvelous creation. 00:00:50.73\00:00:53.67 There are so many components to it. 00:00:54.18\00:00:56.03 There are so many things to learn that 00:00:56.06\00:00:58.30 even in eternity I believe we will always be 00:00:58.33\00:01:00.46 learning more about it. 00:01:00.49\00:01:01.96 Today, we have an interesting topic 00:01:02.12\00:01:03.75 and joining me is Dr. Dos Santos. 00:01:03.78\00:01:05.47 He is a professor at Loma Linda University 00:01:05.98\00:01:07.90 in the Preventive Care Program. 00:01:07.93\00:01:09.62 Welcome Dr. Dos Santos. 00:01:09.65\00:01:10.78 Thank you it's a pleasure to be here 00:01:11.27\00:01:13.21 and we will talk about the heart today. 00:01:13.24\00:01:16.31 That's right you have worked in many countries, 00:01:16.89\00:01:19.71 so you understand the global perspective for health. 00:01:19.74\00:01:22.52 What are some of those countries you worked in? 00:01:22.55\00:01:24.59 Yeah I work in Brazil, I'm originally from Brazil. 00:01:24.62\00:01:27.93 Then I work in United States for a while 00:01:27.96\00:01:30.35 and then I move to Hong Kong. 00:01:30.38\00:01:31.83 And the common thing about that is 00:01:32.19\00:01:35.00 that heart disease is the main cause of that in both 00:01:35.03\00:01:38.60 of the situations in Asia, in South America, 00:01:38.63\00:01:41.93 and in North America. And also in many other 00:01:41.96\00:01:45.02 countries as we will see in the lecture. 00:01:45.05\00:01:47.48 Right, and you are dual doctorate right. 00:01:47.51\00:01:52.06 Doctor in medicine, I correct and doctrine in. 00:01:52.09\00:01:55.05 In Preventive Care or public health. 00:01:55.66\00:01:58.51 Perfect, perfect, so we will be enjoying 00:01:58.54\00:02:01.45 your comments on that wide spectrum 00:02:01.48\00:02:03.74 of knowledge that you have. 00:02:03.77\00:02:05.05 And you are right, heart disease is the number 00:02:05.08\00:02:08.44 one killer not only in America, 00:02:08.47\00:02:10.63 but in the world. In the America alone there 00:02:10.66\00:02:13.88 are over 600 thousand people 00:02:13.91\00:02:15.76 that die from it everyday. 00:02:15.79\00:02:16.93 Sometimes we fear accidents 00:02:17.48\00:02:18.94 or gunshot wounds or deaths a lot, 00:02:18.97\00:02:21.87 but we don't realize that the own organ inside 00:02:21.90\00:02:24.39 our own body is killing so many of us. 00:02:24.42\00:02:26.87 In fact in our graphic we can see that 00:02:26.90\00:02:30.39 in the world as far as America also 00:02:30.42\00:02:33.39 both are killing a lot of people. 00:02:33.42\00:02:36.26 It's a number one killer in both followed in 00:02:37.32\00:02:40.06 America by cancer and stroke 00:02:40.09\00:02:41.92 and in the world by stroke is number two 00:02:42.38\00:02:45.04 and infectious diseases as number, 00:02:45.81\00:02:48.64 respiratory infections diseases as number three. 00:02:48.67\00:02:51.68 So, we can see that in the whole world over 00:02:52.13\00:02:54.39 7 million people every year are dying from the heart. 00:02:54.42\00:02:57.96 Why is this epidemic so big?. 00:02:57.99\00:03:00.43 It is interesting because this starts in our heart 00:03:01.33\00:03:05.99 and it starts in this small vein that we have 00:03:06.61\00:03:11.70 here or a small artery that we call coronaries. 00:03:11.73\00:03:16.32 Is a, is a very tiny artery, 00:03:16.35\00:03:19.43 but if blood does not circulating this part 00:03:19.90\00:03:23.47 of the heart the whole part, 00:03:23.50\00:03:25.41 the whole muscle can die and that's, 00:03:25.44\00:03:29.19 and that's where the problem starts. 00:03:29.22\00:03:32.13 So if someone has a coronary problem 00:03:32.16\00:03:35.47 or obstruction in the end in this part 00:03:35.50\00:03:37.96 so it just a tiny area of the heart that will suffer. 00:03:37.99\00:03:41.69 But, when the heart attack occurs in the bigger, 00:03:41.72\00:03:45.91 biggest part then there is a risk of 00:03:45.94\00:03:50.15 what we call is total myocardial infarction 00:03:50.62\00:03:56.19 that will destroy the heart. 00:03:56.22\00:03:59.07 That tissue over there. So, why does it happen 00:03:59.10\00:04:01.65 again is here, but is related to lifestyle. 00:04:01.68\00:04:06.78 Mostly there is a deposit of cholesterol 00:04:07.35\00:04:09.76 inside of the arteries. 00:04:09.79\00:04:11.05 There is a deposit of calcium and fibrin 00:04:11.08\00:04:14.60 and all over these things that block the circulation. 00:04:14.63\00:04:17.61 Always, I like to use cars as an example 00:04:17.84\00:04:20.27 because it's something that most of us see that 00:04:20.30\00:04:21.92 however familiar with and perhaps a good analogy 00:04:21.95\00:04:26.04 that I would add is if we had a car 00:04:26.07\00:04:28.68 and there is conduit or tubing or pipes 00:04:28.71\00:04:31.41 that go from the gas tank to the engine 00:04:31.44\00:04:34.04 and that provides fuel so that engine 00:04:34.07\00:04:36.55 can function normally. If that conduit is blocked 00:04:36.58\00:04:40.59 or stop in a certain manner the fuel 00:04:42.32\00:04:45.01 can't get to the engine and the engine would 00:04:45.04\00:04:46.79 shut down or that part would stop from working 00:04:46.82\00:04:49.61 much the same way our heart needs the conduit those 00:04:49.64\00:04:52.50 arteries to pass the blood to function normally, 00:04:52.53\00:04:55.69 to receive the oxygen and the nutrients for that 00:04:55.72\00:04:58.28 muscle to be contracting and working. 00:04:58.31\00:05:00.18 But if it's blocked, if it's stiffened, 00:05:00.21\00:05:01.80 there is less life in that right, 00:05:01.83\00:05:03.42 there is, it's to gonna stop 00:05:03.45\00:05:04.88 and does the heart attack. 00:05:04.91\00:05:06.30 What is causing that blockage? 00:05:07.53\00:05:10.06 Will you mentioned little bit about plaque. 00:05:10.09\00:05:12.70 What is plaque and what is causing that 00:05:12.73\00:05:14.99 plaque from building there 00:05:15.02\00:05:16.63 or the stiffening of the arteries also. 00:05:16.66\00:05:18.73 Well there is a combination of diet and exercise. 00:05:19.39\00:05:22.59 Those are the main factors so, if you, 00:05:23.14\00:05:26.48 if you don't exercise then the circulation 00:05:26.51\00:05:30.65 is not gonna be the same, but the advantage as 00:05:31.74\00:05:35.19 when you exercise you develop an extra 00:05:35.22\00:05:39.02 copular net of vessels so instead of having just one, 00:05:39.74\00:05:47.01 you have a lot of small ones around. 00:05:47.04\00:05:49.35 So, you have an increase circulation 00:05:49.38\00:05:53.10 because when we exercise the heart to get stronger. 00:05:53.13\00:05:56.02 So, a lack of exercise means 00:05:56.05\00:05:58.78 lack of irrigation in the heart. 00:05:58.81\00:06:01.53 Okay. The other point is that too much fat 00:06:01.56\00:06:04.87 in the food and too much protein in a diet that 00:06:04.90\00:06:11.59 is high in sugar will cause that 00:06:11.62\00:06:14.65 the blood will be thick. Okay. 00:06:14.68\00:06:18.01 When the blood is think is gonna deposit high, 00:06:18.04\00:06:21.02 higher level or higher amount of 00:06:21.63\00:06:24.22 cholesterol in the arteries. 00:06:24.25\00:06:25.75 The other thing is that this creates a small bump 00:06:26.19\00:06:29.21 in the arteries. And it takes maybe 10 00:06:29.24\00:06:32.18 or to 20 years for this bump to obstruct, 00:06:32.21\00:06:34.68 but you imagine here you have a small bump 00:06:34.71\00:06:38.54 and then you have a thick blood, 00:06:38.57\00:06:41.27 so a thick blood in a small bump 00:06:41.30\00:06:43.85 will create the flow and will create a clot easy. 00:06:43.88\00:06:47.21 And this is the main cause 80% or 85% 00:06:47.24\00:06:51.29 of heart attacks are caused not because of total 00:06:51.32\00:06:53.99 obstruction may because of 00:06:54.02\00:06:55.67 a clot that was created, 00:06:55.70\00:06:56.88 in the blood that blocking that, exactly, yeah. 00:06:56.91\00:06:58.28 Okay, so that's good to know. 00:06:58.31\00:07:00.37 So, the diet you mention what we eat has a big 00:07:00.95\00:07:04.26 part to do and then lack of exercise. 00:07:04.29\00:07:06.19 Is there a list of risk factors 00:07:06.22\00:07:07.88 or something that we can look out and say well 00:07:07.91\00:07:09.95 I can maybe check these risk factors or 00:07:09.98\00:07:13.03 different things that I maybe in danger of. 00:07:13.06\00:07:15.51 Yes, you are right, there is two types of risk factors 00:07:16.06\00:07:20.96 and we can see in the graphic that we have 00:07:20.99\00:07:23.54 risk factors the first three ones, 00:07:23.57\00:07:26.28 family history, age and gender are considered 00:07:26.31\00:07:29.53 the normal defiled ones. 00:07:29.56\00:07:31.91 Then the other ones like weight especially 00:07:31.94\00:07:35.46 abdominal weight, physical inactivity, 00:07:35.49\00:07:37.90 diabetes, hypertension, high cholesterol, 00:07:37.93\00:07:40.03 smoking, and stress are the habits that we can change. 00:07:40.06\00:07:44.68 So, you see that is a combinational effect 00:07:45.43\00:07:49.27 you cannot say that heart disease is caused 00:07:49.30\00:07:51.96 by one thing, but when you accumulate three, 00:07:51.99\00:07:56.46 four of those factors so your risk 00:07:56.49\00:07:58.71 for heart disease is increased a lot. 00:07:58.74\00:08:02.17 Alright, right, so I'm looking at this list 00:08:02.20\00:08:04.43 and I'm wondering well, which one should I, 00:08:04.46\00:08:06.01 should I check first you know the last one 00:08:06.04\00:08:10.23 or it should be maybe my family history 00:08:10.26\00:08:12.49 is their one way to begin or where 00:08:12.52\00:08:14.98 I should begin looking. 00:08:15.01\00:08:16.25 Yeah, you know that I always mention 00:08:16.60\00:08:19.39 check your ancestors, 00:08:19.92\00:08:22.39 check your family for risks, 00:08:22.42\00:08:24.38 either heart disease or cancer or diabetes 00:08:24.85\00:08:27.78 you should know, you should have a map 00:08:27.81\00:08:30.02 of what happened to your father, mother, 00:08:30.05\00:08:32.73 grandfather and siblings. 00:08:32.76\00:08:35.75 And then you have an idea if someone die from 00:08:36.20\00:08:40.10 heart disease or someone had a heart attack, 00:08:40.13\00:08:42.58 you might have a risk for that 00:08:42.61\00:08:44.72 and then you have to provide so 00:08:44.75\00:08:46.85 Be more cautious. Yeah more cautious for that. 00:08:47.41\00:08:49.32 Take precautions, yeah, I should say. 00:08:49.35\00:08:51.19 So, do not fall in the same trap because 00:08:51.22\00:08:52.80 you already more predisposed 00:08:52.83\00:08:54.26 to those risk factors or that disease. 00:08:54.29\00:08:58.29 What about age, I saw age on their and gender. 00:08:59.27\00:09:03.09 Those are things I can't change, 00:09:03.12\00:09:04.65 what should I do about those, 00:09:05.17\00:09:06.27 how should I check on those 00:09:06.30\00:09:07.66 or use those to my advantage. 00:09:07.69\00:09:09.19 Well, age we have a software that we use 00:09:09.85\00:09:13.92 to calculate the health age and then I 00:09:13.95\00:09:17.59 believe that there is biological age 00:09:17.62\00:09:19.71 and health age. 00:09:19.74\00:09:20.71 That means that if you follow a good lifestyle 00:09:21.46\00:09:25.00 you are gonna live longer. 00:09:25.03\00:09:26.33 So, if you check your age today you might be 00:09:26.76\00:09:29.96 younger compared to yourself 00:09:29.99\00:09:32.70 if you don't fall, biological age, 00:09:32.73\00:09:34.12 is to biological age, so even person that is old 00:09:34.15\00:09:38.21 he might not have the risk of die soon 00:09:38.24\00:09:42.40 because of lifestyle. But, some people say well 00:09:42.43\00:09:45.65 I have 60 years old and is old, 00:09:45.68\00:09:49.14 it's late to start exercising and lifestyle. 00:09:49.17\00:09:52.67 But, I have a lady that started exercise 00:09:53.17\00:09:56.96 at 66 years old they wanna have heard 00:09:56.99\00:09:59.29 Peacher now, Hulda Crooks. 00:09:59.32\00:10:02.00 She started exercising at 66 years old. 00:10:02.03\00:10:05.50 And then she died when she was 104. 00:10:05.98\00:10:08.62 I use to see her, I used to live in Loma Linda, 00:10:09.08\00:10:11.77 where she was on that time she was 100 years old 00:10:12.20\00:10:17.13 and always walking 3, 4 miles 00:10:17.16\00:10:19.72 a day around the city. Amazing, Amazing. 00:10:19.75\00:10:21.51 Yeah and so you cannot see well, 00:10:21.54\00:10:24.82 but she started exercising since she was a kid, 00:10:24.85\00:10:29.70 but no she started with 66 years old 00:10:29.73\00:10:32.52 and she climbed all the mountains in California. 00:10:32.55\00:10:35.91 And she climbed Mount Fuji in Japan 00:10:35.94\00:10:39.47 was the oldest person to climb that 00:10:39.50\00:10:41.80 Mount Fuji with 92 years old. 00:10:41.83\00:10:44.34 And she climbed Mount Whitney in California 00:10:44.73\00:10:48.55 and many times and they name her 00:10:48.58\00:10:51.72 to the other mountain close to Mount Whitney 00:10:51.75\00:10:55.33 that is Mount Crook now. Amazing so even if you 00:10:55.36\00:11:01.11 are above 66, there is no reason to think that, 00:11:01.14\00:11:04.57 there is no reason to start exercising or to 00:11:05.09\00:11:07.53 strengthening my heart. 00:11:07.56\00:11:09.34 There should always age shouldn't be an excuse. 00:11:09.37\00:11:12.14 And going back to the biological age, 00:11:12.17\00:11:14.01 it's nice to know that perhaps from 70 or from 00:11:14.04\00:11:17.12 even 30 that I can be doing things in my life 00:11:17.15\00:11:21.48 that will give me a normal life or good 00:11:21.51\00:11:24.85 quality of life while I'm so here. 00:11:24.88\00:11:27.16 And definitely Hulda Crooks is 00:11:27.19\00:11:29.18 a perfect example that. 00:11:29.21\00:11:30.92 Now going to the doctor is that a good preventive 00:11:31.98\00:11:35.30 measure or only when I see the risk 00:11:35.33\00:11:38.16 or if I know others risk how would you assess that? 00:11:38.19\00:11:41.14 Yeah, I would say that you should do medical 00:11:41.62\00:11:45.30 checkup everybody should do a medical check up 00:11:45.33\00:11:48.72 to check for disease. So, you will have 00:11:48.75\00:11:51.86 your family history and then you go to the doctor 00:11:51.89\00:11:55.39 periodically I mean once a year, 00:11:55.42\00:11:57.45 once every two years depend on your age. 00:11:57.48\00:11:59.59 And then you have picture of that, 00:11:59.62\00:12:02.15 some people stop that, so I went to the doctor 00:12:02.18\00:12:05.63 my cholesterol is good, my heart is good, 00:12:05.66\00:12:07.58 my blood is good, but they, they should go 00:12:07.61\00:12:11.44 one step further and check their lifestyle 00:12:11.47\00:12:14.09 because is not just the cholesterol, 00:12:14.12\00:12:16.20 is not just the blood samples, 00:12:16.23\00:12:19.16 is not just the physicals. You might have 00:12:19.19\00:12:22.51 other factors, you might have an excessive weight, 00:12:24.49\00:12:27.35 you might have, you might not be doing exercise 00:12:27.38\00:12:30.50 and then even if their tests are normal 00:12:30.53\00:12:33.14 you might be at risk. If you don't have a good, 00:12:33.17\00:12:36.09 if you don't do your homework. 00:12:36.12\00:12:37.43 Yeah homework, what do you mean by homework, 00:12:37.88\00:12:39.53 I thought hopefully by then we would be 00:12:39.56\00:12:41.70 done with school, but always a different kind 00:12:41.73\00:12:44.00 of homework perhaps you are doing 00:12:44.03\00:12:45.41 I don't know explain that a little bit better. 00:12:46.01\00:12:47.45 Yeah, homework is like I have a patient 00:12:47.48\00:12:52.65 two weeks ago we did a fair in San Bernardino 00:12:52.68\00:12:55.38 and then we check blood pressure in the population. 00:12:55.41\00:12:58.24 So, we have this heavy guy that sat on the chair 00:12:58.27\00:13:02.34 and say measure my blood pressure. 00:13:02.37\00:13:04.52 So, we put the cuff we measure blood pressure 00:13:04.55\00:13:08.12 and there was a friend of him that was in front 00:13:08.15\00:13:11.23 and he was watching for him or waiting for him 00:13:11.26\00:13:14.09 and then his pressure was 120/76 and then 00:13:14.78\00:13:19.51 he was heavy and he told the guy see what exercise 00:13:19.54\00:13:23.88 does to you and that guy what you mean by that. 00:13:23.91\00:13:26.38 Well, I go to the gym everyday. 00:13:26.41\00:13:28.03 So, it is not important that if you are overweight, 00:13:28.83\00:13:33.95 you are gonna have the risk, 00:13:33.98\00:13:35.50 what is more important is that 00:13:35.53\00:13:37.56 even if you haven't lost the weight. 00:13:37.59\00:13:39.61 But, you are doing your homework that's 00:13:39.64\00:13:41.84 what I mean, he was doing the exercise. 00:13:41.87\00:13:44.35 He is doing his part, he was going everyday 00:13:44.38\00:13:47.41 going to the gym, perfect, 00:13:47.44\00:13:49.59 perfect, even if is half-an-hour, 00:13:49.62\00:13:50.59 but he was being consistent with that making 00:13:50.60\00:13:52.47 sure he had the benefits of what is to do your part 00:13:52.50\00:13:56.83 because the doctor can't do anything he can maybe 00:13:56.86\00:13:58.69 tell you the symptoms or what you may need more, 00:13:58.72\00:14:01.24 but God gave us our body for us to be in charge 00:14:01.27\00:14:04.41 of to us to take care of. 00:14:04.44\00:14:05.88 In the point for him is that he was able to 00:14:05.91\00:14:09.54 control his blood pressure. 00:14:09.57\00:14:11.19 Another point related to that 00:14:12.13\00:14:14.12 is that you go to the doctor. 00:14:14.19\00:14:15.44 The doctor prescribes something, 00:14:15.47\00:14:17.13 so we know today the prescription 00:14:17.51\00:14:19.93 for hypertension, the prescription for diabetes 00:14:19.96\00:14:22.46 and people don't come comply with that. 00:14:22.87\00:14:24.57 And then they have a high risk, 00:14:24.60\00:14:27.10 I believe that medicines are important to prevent 00:14:27.13\00:14:30.85 the disease in the near future in a couple of 00:14:30.88\00:14:34.20 months or years, it can prevent a heart attack. 00:14:34.23\00:14:38.36 So, it's important to take the medicine. 00:14:38.39\00:14:40.18 Of course, the lifestyle is also important 00:14:40.58\00:14:43.00 and lifestyle will give you a broad longer time, 00:14:43.03\00:14:47.21 and longer range, will protect you for 10 00:14:47.24\00:14:49.76 and 20 years, but you cannot skip the medicine 00:14:49.79\00:14:53.10 and that's the problem. Many people say, 00:14:53.13\00:14:54.88 I don't need that or I don't like the doctor 00:14:54.91\00:14:57.74 or I don't like the prescription, 00:14:57.77\00:14:59.35 I feel the side effects, so if the doctor prescribe 00:14:59.38\00:15:03.45 something you have to follow because there 00:15:03.48\00:15:05.43 are people that die because of hypertension simply 00:15:05.46\00:15:08.11 because they don't take the medication. Right, 00:15:08.14\00:15:10.22 right. They get a stroke and then is complicated. 00:15:10.25\00:15:12.98 So, medicines are important, 00:15:13.88\00:15:16.21 but the homework is important and I wanna 00:15:16.72\00:15:18.64 share with you that the medicines 00:15:18.67\00:15:21.39 like I said are needed many times, 00:15:21.42\00:15:23.56 but if we can start our homework, 00:15:23.59\00:15:25.00 remember what homework was doing our part, 00:15:25.03\00:15:26.95 doing our exercise, eating right. 00:15:26.98\00:15:28.78 As early as possible and even if it's late, 00:15:29.32\00:15:32.11 it's never true late. That we can most likely 00:15:32.14\00:15:34.81 avoid many of the mediations that 00:15:34.84\00:15:36.49 we often times have to take because we haven't 00:15:36.52\00:15:39.02 done our homework previously. 00:15:39.05\00:15:40.68 So, exercise is extremely important 00:15:40.71\00:15:43.31 for heart disease, but sometimes 00:15:43.34\00:15:45.29 we hear some stories that are little 00:15:45.32\00:15:46.98 discomfort to hear like somebody goes to the gym 00:15:47.01\00:15:48.89 and they are working super hard and they work 00:15:48.92\00:15:51.28 on the exercise and next day I know they 00:15:51.31\00:15:54.04 fall over with the heart attack or die. 00:15:54.07\00:15:56.62 How do you explain that 00:15:57.32\00:15:58.29 they are doing their exercise? 00:15:58.30\00:15:59.27 Well first of all 7 million people die 00:16:00.50\00:16:03.79 and I would say 99% of this guys 00:16:04.67\00:16:07.98 die because of lack of exercise. 00:16:08.01\00:16:09.91 Okay. But, we have a percentage 1% of 00:16:09.94\00:16:14.18 people are died during exercise. 00:16:14.21\00:16:16.21 Okay. And why is that, one time I have a patient 00:16:16.24\00:16:21.61 that was a smoker for many years 00:16:21.64\00:16:24.87 and then he came to my office 00:16:24.90\00:16:26.12 and he stop smoking. 00:16:26.15\00:16:27.42 And then he was about 60 years old 00:16:28.26\00:16:31.62 and when he was 70 years old 00:16:32.15\00:16:33.99 he was a German guy, he visited Germany, 00:16:34.02\00:16:36.62 he is Germany and then when he was there 00:16:36.65\00:16:39.92 in this trip he saw all the destructions that 00:16:39.95\00:16:43.28 the second world war cause to his Germany 00:16:43.31\00:16:46.43 and he got so depressed, he got a heart attack 00:16:46.46\00:16:49.27 and he died. So, they mentioned why this guy die, 00:16:49.30\00:16:53.76 the same question, if he stop his smoking 00:16:53.79\00:16:56.25 he was doing a good homework 00:16:56.28\00:16:58.40 then I told the widow well he would died 00:16:58.43\00:17:02.31 much earlier probably I cannot guess 00:17:02.34\00:17:06.03 the right things, but it's about some people die 00:17:06.06\00:17:10.87 everywhere and anywhere and so you have to may be 00:17:10.90\00:17:15.97 if the person didn't exercise he would have 00:17:16.00\00:17:20.26 be gone before. But, I have an advice 00:17:20.29\00:17:24.91 for our audience. I believe we have 00:17:24.94\00:17:29.82 to respect our body. 00:17:29.85\00:17:31.19 Many people go to exercise and they go to streams 00:17:31.22\00:17:37.81 and they feel, they feel uneasy and sometimes 00:17:37.84\00:17:41.12 they feel dizzy they feel pain, 00:17:41.15\00:17:42.60 but they go with the motivation and they go 00:17:43.03\00:17:46.18 and they think that this is the main thing. 00:17:46.91\00:17:48.83 I have a graphic to show you from 00:17:48.86\00:17:51.42 Hong Kong Marathon. For many years, 00:17:52.81\00:17:55.41 I was a trainer for club that we have in Hong Kong 00:17:55.44\00:18:00.01 for the Hong Kong Adventist Hospital. 00:18:00.04\00:18:02.06 And I run a club for Marathon runners. 00:18:02.35\00:18:05.42 Encourage exercise, encourage them, 00:18:05.45\00:18:07.40 exactly, be active. 00:18:07.43\00:18:08.48 And you see in this picture, 00:18:08.51\00:18:09.69 I run several half marathons, 00:18:09.72\00:18:12.31 half marathons in what they call Hong Kong charted, 00:18:12.49\00:18:16.18 standard charted marathon 00:18:16.21\00:18:18.27 and we have people that will die, almost die 00:18:18.46\00:18:21.55 they will feel pain in their knees and 00:18:21.58\00:18:24.31 pain in the back and they will go and say no 00:18:24.34\00:18:28.50 I have to finish and this will mean that they will 00:18:28.53\00:18:31.18 finish that marathon. 00:18:31.21\00:18:32.36 But, they will have a lesion in their knees 00:18:32.82\00:18:36.37 that will stay forever. So, I would say respect 00:18:36.40\00:18:40.28 your body and I was the person that was 00:18:40.31\00:18:44.18 when they started to say you run a full 00:18:44.75\00:18:47.69 marathon as you know full is too much. 00:18:47.72\00:18:49.32 Right. I go for a half, even half is too much. 00:18:49.35\00:18:52.07 So by respecting you mean listen to the symptoms 00:18:52.34\00:18:55.96 or the sings of pain or okay, 00:18:55.99\00:18:58.76 I haven't done this in a while I need to start slowly 00:18:58.79\00:19:01.56 or my body is not used to this. 00:19:01.59\00:19:03.09 I should give my body a chance to accommodate 00:19:03.12\00:19:05.80 or get to that point where I can get that. 00:19:05.83\00:19:07.69 And don't exaggerate in terms of exercise. 00:19:07.72\00:19:10.42 I was interviewed one time by a reporter 00:19:10.45\00:19:14.09 and then she was to write an article 00:19:14.12\00:19:16.23 about running and then she said how about 00:19:16.26\00:19:18.37 a person that runs 5 miles. 00:19:18.40\00:19:20.43 And then cannot go to 6 and 7 and 10 miles 00:19:20.74\00:19:24.25 and just go to 5 miles and that's it. 00:19:24.28\00:19:26.47 What is your advice? You know what I said? 00:19:26.50\00:19:29.90 What did you tell her. 00:19:29.93\00:19:30.90 I tell that I told her, oh, how about the five miles 00:19:30.91\00:19:34.50 is the ideal thing for her. So, 00:19:34.53\00:19:36.34 why she has to go to 10 miles. 00:19:36.37\00:19:38.33 Exactly. You know 00:19:38.36\00:19:39.47 what they never wrote that article. 00:19:39.50\00:19:41.10 They never published it that interview 00:19:41.93\00:19:44.37 because I mean the push is that do a lot you 00:19:44.40\00:19:48.26 motivation you can do, but in this 00:19:48.29\00:19:50.36 you have to have a limit. 00:19:50.39\00:19:51.62 You have to respect your own limits. 00:19:51.65\00:19:54.52 So, if you feel so tired, so exhausted 00:19:54.55\00:19:57.30 and many marathon runners they get a cold, 00:19:57.33\00:20:00.51 a big cold after the race that means you're 00:20:00.54\00:20:04.43 your immune system has been suppressed. 00:20:04.46\00:20:06.08 So, you have to put attention to that. 00:20:06.11\00:20:07.87 If you feel good. Exercises taken to 00:20:07.90\00:20:09.63 an extreme and then, exactly, 00:20:09.66\00:20:10.99 that extreme suppresses or what is a fatigue 00:20:11.02\00:20:14.08 stressor on the body that's unnecessary. 00:20:14.11\00:20:16.46 So, once in a while perhaps or if you train up 00:20:16.91\00:20:19.42 to that point it might be a different story. 00:20:19.45\00:20:21.20 But, like you said respect the body, 00:20:21.23\00:20:23.75 know that God put limits to it 00:20:23.90\00:20:26.14 and to live happily in among those limits. 00:20:26.45\00:20:29.90 Another thing is when you have a major disease 00:20:29.93\00:20:32.93 or a surgery. So, you have to have a period 00:20:32.96\00:20:37.25 of recovery after that you. 00:20:37.28\00:20:39.20 If you even if you are a runner after a major 00:20:39.23\00:20:42.15 disease in your life, you have to go slow, 00:20:42.18\00:20:44.27 you have to start walking and 00:20:44.30\00:20:45.76 then progressively get to the point. 00:20:45.79\00:20:48.33 Exactly, I think that point has been 00:20:48.99\00:20:51.69 made clear them to be progressive 00:20:51.83\00:20:54.17 and slow and respective. 00:20:54.20\00:20:55.91 Now on to a different topic on diet. 00:20:56.35\00:20:58.36 Diet and heart disease, you mentioned at the 00:20:58.39\00:21:00.52 beginning that what we eat becomes part of us. 00:21:00.55\00:21:04.10 So, if we are eating high fatty foods 00:21:04.13\00:21:07.32 that actually becomes part of our body 00:21:07.35\00:21:09.39 or actual cells and storage and 00:21:09.42\00:21:11.46 part of it goes to the heart. 00:21:11.49\00:21:13.06 What do you have to say about diet? 00:21:13.09\00:21:14.96 Well diet is as important as exercise and 00:21:16.15\00:21:20.04 I mentioned at the beginning that 00:21:20.07\00:21:21.47 high fat diet will increase cholesterol and 00:21:21.50\00:21:24.50 this will depositing in the arteries. 00:21:24.53\00:21:28.14 And also a high sugar diet mix with the high fat 00:21:28.26\00:21:33.17 diet will create the flow that is 00:21:33.76\00:21:36.99 very slow in the arteries. Is like a river. 00:21:37.02\00:21:40.11 Small and thicker. Yeah, because 00:21:40.14\00:21:42.17 of the thickness the flow is gonna be slow 00:21:42.20\00:21:44.80 and then this will cause more deposit in the, 00:21:44.83\00:21:47.96 in the wall of the arteries 00:21:47.99\00:21:54.12 and then this will if you have an artery that 00:21:54.15\00:21:58.33 is ready with a plaque, 00:21:58.36\00:22:01.19 so this plaque will recreate this, 00:22:01.55\00:22:05.57 something that the blood will not flow very well 00:22:06.33\00:22:08.63 to the cells because there is this 00:22:08.66\00:22:11.81 plaque and there is low flow. 00:22:11.84\00:22:14.04 Right. Like a river full of flesh, 00:22:14.07\00:22:16.89 full of dirt, it cannot flow. 00:22:16.92\00:22:19.82 You see some rivers that. 00:22:19.85\00:22:22.22 Very sluggish. Very sluggish and 00:22:22.25\00:22:24.64 that on circulation is not going anywhere. 00:22:24.67\00:22:27.72 Well, I like to think about diet in a global 00:22:28.76\00:22:33.91 perspective or international perspective 00:22:33.94\00:22:36.30 and then we have a problem because they have some 00:22:36.33\00:22:39.57 countries that are in sub nutritious stage 00:22:39.60\00:22:44.62 they don't have what to eat, 00:22:44.65\00:22:46.73 so I'm in charge of a class that 00:22:47.10\00:22:49.11 we call in global health, global health 00:22:49.14\00:22:52.01 nutrition then is a struggle because 00:22:52.04\00:22:54.47 we have to teach that we have to provide food 00:22:54.50\00:22:57.61 for the third war, but we have to be careful to not 00:22:57.64\00:23:01.18 transform that the third war to the first war 00:23:01.21\00:23:05.98 or the developing countries style of not 00:23:06.01\00:23:09.54 having food to the developed countries 00:23:09.57\00:23:13.73 of having too much food 00:23:13.76\00:23:15.12 and too much rich food. 00:23:15.15\00:23:17.14 That's what we called a nutritional transition. 00:23:17.65\00:23:20.54 A rich food you mean foods that are high caloric 00:23:20.57\00:23:23.99 or calorically dense foods. So, 00:23:24.02\00:23:26.53 lot of calories little few 00:23:26.56\00:23:27.98 nutrients. High density foods. 00:23:28.01\00:23:28.98 Yeah high density, 00:23:28.99\00:23:29.96 the nutrients are little low 00:23:29.97\00:23:30.99 and the minerals or vitamins, the fiber, 00:23:31.02\00:23:33.94 so that when you talk about rich 00:23:33.97\00:23:35.60 that's we are planning. 00:23:35.63\00:23:37.39 Yes, that's the point and then we have to balance 00:23:37.42\00:23:42.87 that in terms of teaching these countries. 00:23:42.90\00:23:48.84 Because what is happening in the developing 00:23:49.15\00:23:51.96 countries is that in the rural areas 00:23:51.99\00:23:53.76 they don't have enough food. 00:23:53.79\00:23:55.41 But, in the CD they have Western this kind of food 00:23:55.64\00:23:59.75 high density, low nutrients food and then people 00:23:59.78\00:24:02.75 in the rural areas still I wonder they have 00:24:02.78\00:24:05.78 infectious disease and diarrhea and nutrition 00:24:05.81\00:24:09.62 problem malnourishment. In the CDs, 00:24:09.65\00:24:12.18 they have obesity, diabetes, 00:24:12.21\00:24:13.99 high cholesterol, and hypertension. 00:24:14.02\00:24:15.65 So, we need to be careful that those diseases 00:24:16.48\00:24:18.59 are transformed or brought into the rural areas 00:24:18.62\00:24:23.16 through the fast food or the junk food 00:24:23.19\00:24:26.73 or some of theses foods that 00:24:26.76\00:24:28.18 aren't the best for the body. 00:24:28.21\00:24:29.51 Within our company followed by 00:24:30.61\00:24:32.80 if eaten in access with the diseases. 00:24:32.83\00:24:35.32 Yeah, this they call epidemiological transition. 00:24:35.60\00:24:38.77 When the countries come from disease 00:24:38.80\00:24:42.55 that are infectious and they go to chronic 00:24:42.58\00:24:45.06 disease that are related to lifestyle 00:24:45.09\00:24:46.97 not only nutrition, but nutrition 00:24:47.00\00:24:49.68 and exercise this is the characteristic of rich, 00:24:49.71\00:24:53.38 the rich country. So, you have more food, 00:24:54.16\00:24:56.48 you have, but you should not be like that 00:24:56.51\00:24:59.62 because in that case you just change the style 00:24:59.65\00:25:02.86 of disease or the types of disease 00:25:02.89\00:25:05.30 and you get in the same trouble. 00:25:05.33\00:25:07.28 So, I have a problem when we go to these countries 00:25:07.66\00:25:11.01 and we bring our style of eating and then 00:25:11.04\00:25:16.02 we instead of helping them to overcome the disease, 00:25:17.17\00:25:20.46 we help them to change the pattern of disease. 00:25:20.49\00:25:23.15 Not quickly maybe you can answer the question 00:25:24.17\00:25:27.57 that the argument that's brought by many that 00:25:27.60\00:25:30.47 maybe this is a genetic thing that may be 00:25:30.50\00:25:32.67 these different countries, different areas have 00:25:32.70\00:25:34.41 a generic disposition to these diseases. 00:25:34.44\00:25:37.10 Is that something that we can use as an excuse. 00:25:37.63\00:25:40.66 Yeah, before we go there 00:25:40.69\00:25:42.06 I would like to tell a story 00:25:42.09\00:25:43.98 about what happen in Beijing. 00:25:44.01\00:25:45.71 We have, we have a very interesting thing 00:25:46.10\00:25:51.17 that researcher went to talk to 00:25:51.20\00:25:55.35 Altoist about the problem 00:25:55.38\00:25:58.85 of fast food restaurants seen in China. 00:25:58.88\00:26:01.96 And after he talked, the Chinese 00:26:01.99\00:26:03.84 Altoist came and said, 00:26:03.87\00:26:05.23 what do you mean by that. We were under nourished. 00:26:06.00\00:26:09.99 We want more fresh food restaurants. 00:26:10.02\00:26:12.64 We want more restaurants because 00:26:12.67\00:26:14.14 we are eager to have more food. 00:26:14.17\00:26:16.24 Yes. And they don't understand that those foods 00:26:16.27\00:26:19.19 might not be the best for them. 00:26:19.22\00:26:20.83 So, then I have to answer a question 00:26:21.69\00:26:24.24 about what was that? 00:26:24.27\00:26:26.03 The genetic recession. The genetic, yeah, 00:26:26.06\00:26:28.39 use as an argument many times. 00:26:28.42\00:26:30.10 Yeah, well I just have a less picture here about 00:26:30.13\00:26:33.69 the Pima Indians to show that is not genetic. 00:26:33.72\00:26:36.45 So, in this picture you see that Pima Indians 00:26:36.73\00:26:40.47 are in Arizona and they are in Southern Mexico. 00:26:40.50\00:26:45.75 In Southern Mexico, they kept the lifestyle 00:26:46.11\00:26:49.37 that is healthy exercise and healthy diet. 00:26:49.40\00:26:53.87 In Arizona they adopted the lifestyle 00:26:54.19\00:26:58.48 the western lifestyle of eating and no exercise 00:26:58.51\00:27:02.06 so if you talk about the risk of diabetes 00:27:02.09\00:27:05.38 and high cholesterol and obesity the Mexicans 00:27:05.41\00:27:09.06 when they don't have it. 00:27:09.09\00:27:10.23 But, in Arizona they have us we have. 00:27:10.44\00:27:12.96 The same, the same.. So, is not genetic, 00:27:12.99\00:27:15.48 I mean they have the same 00:27:15.51\00:27:16.76 nature caputring, but they 00:27:16.79\00:27:18.38 have two lifestyles different. 00:27:18.41\00:27:20.25 So, genetics isn't the only exercise we can use. 00:27:21.05\00:27:23.23 Lifestyle becomes one of those big components 00:27:23.26\00:27:25.47 in our lives that we can take control of and use 00:27:25.50\00:27:28.06 for our own benefit. Dr. Dos Santos you 00:27:28.09\00:27:30.56 have been a blessing to us I thank you for coming 00:27:30.59\00:27:32.62 for adding your knowledge and 00:27:32.65\00:27:34.66 your practical applications 00:27:34.69\00:27:36.80 on how to take care of our hearts. 00:27:36.83\00:27:38.17 Thank you very much. You are welcome, 00:27:38.20\00:27:39.71 it's my pleasure to be here. 00:27:39.74\00:27:41.27 Thank you. And to all our listeners and viewers 00:27:41.30\00:27:44.30 we want to make sure that you realize that 00:27:44.33\00:27:47.25 the number one killer is right inside of us. 00:27:47.28\00:27:49.91 That the heart often times is mistreated 00:27:50.11\00:27:52.84 and it is part of God's wonderful creation. 00:27:53.38\00:27:56.02 Let us remember John 14:1, 00:27:56.24\00:27:58.62 where Jesus says let your heart 00:27:58.65\00:28:00.61 not be troubled trust in God, 00:28:00.64\00:28:02.46 trust also in me. We are Wonderfully Made 00:28:02.49\00:28:05.02 let us trust God continually treating 00:28:05.05\00:28:06.96 our bodies the best way. 00:28:06.99\00:28:08.12