The following
program presents principles
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designed to promote good health
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and is not intended
to take the place of
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personalized professional care.
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The opinions and
the ideas expressed
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are those of the speaker.
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Viewers are
encouraged to draw their own
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conclusions about the
information presented.
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Welcome to WONDERFULLY MADE.
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I am Dr. David
DeRose, president of Compass
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Health incorporated.
Today we're speaking
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about a subject that
is politically charged.
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It's the subject
that really often gets
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undue attention in
ways that I wish it didn't.
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We speaking by
the important medical
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subject today,
but it is one that has
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unfortunately often
labeled and marginalize people.
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The topic today is obesity;
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we wanna put in
the proper frame.
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Were giving you encouragement,
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if you struggling
with weight challenges.
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But also giving you hopes,
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again I'm Dr. David DeRose
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and today joining
me is Dr. John Clark.
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John this is the
subject, that I know many people
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feel guilty about
there are so many messages
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out there. Is
the purpose of today
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show to make people feel worse?
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But how much they way
of the curing extra pounds.
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No they feel bad enough as it is
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and the often
times, they beat themselves
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up and that maybe.
Why are they actually
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continuing their obesity?
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You know, the
important message today.
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Is that you're
precocious to God,
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just the way
you're. it doesn't matter,
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if you're weight a
100pounds or 700 pounds.
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You're not a value
to God, because of your
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size or your appearance.
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God values as far
who you're and so we
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set the stage for
talking about this
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important subject.
It's from the stand
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point of
compassion, from two physicians.
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That myself and Dr. Clark,
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who've delta law with
the whole area of Life Style
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medicine and
we're legerity concerned
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about what's
happening in America
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and how this is affecting,
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a host of things
that would some times
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are not reported in
the medical literature.
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Dr. Clark you
lately, I know have been
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looking a lot at
the immune system.
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The immune system
of course is related to
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cancer. But it also
related to infectious
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diseases and is
there is dialogue today
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about
Bioterrorism, about epidemics is
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coming in this country.
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The bird flu, other
strange virus is the
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Marburg virus and Ebola virus
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and all kinds of
things there are circulating
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out there. There is
an important message,
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when it comes to weight.
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Isn't there when it
comes to the immune system.
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Yes, one of the sad
things that happens.
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When you become
obese, is that your
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immune systems
suffers. It isn't as potent
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there is no active,
it isn't as a prepared
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for these types of infections
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and once you do
get the infection.
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You've a harder
time fighting it of,
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so actually harder for
the doctor to work with you.
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When you get this
diseases, so you're
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a greater risk
for these diseases.
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So again the point
then as we communicate
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our audiences about
curing extra pounds,
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is not to make
people feel worse.
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But is to say, there
is evidence out there.
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There is new
information coming out,
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there is some of the things.
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There were
challenges by and particularly
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as a culture, the
challenge with curing
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extra pounds. It's
something which having
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far reaching affects
and those affects extend
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beyond some of
the common things.
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That you've been
hearing, about for a long time.
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Dr. Clark what
are the things that
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many of us
especially interested in,
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who come to the Bible.
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As Bible's student
and bring a medical
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prospective with
us, we say. You know,
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as we study God's
word, as we try to get
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to know who I
am. As we come into
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fellowship with him.
Do our health practices,
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influence, our
ability to discerned
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God voice and his word.
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They definitely
do and we find that
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lot of our
health practices either
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stimulate better
frontal lobe function,
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that's the
frontal forward brain.
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How we perceive God,
who will make decisions.
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We're we do a lot of
our spiritual thanking,
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that this health
practices either health
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or hinder thoughts in that area
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and the type of Life Style that
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sustained obesity
or brains obesity.
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Often shuts down
those frontal lobs,
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makes decisions
harder, make perceiving
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God a little more difficult.
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So the message is
not, if someone is curing
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extra pounds, that
can't have this close of
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walk with
Christ as someone else.
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But the message that
we're trying to convey,
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is that obesity not
only cures its own risk.
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But in genetically
predisposed people,
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if you curing
extra pounds. It maybe
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an indication, there is
something no Life Style,
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that are having
deleterious affects on
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other aspects, beside
just your physical health.
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It can affect emotional health
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psychological health,
and spiritual health as well.
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Dr. Clark you mention
this because many times
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people because of
the way they are curing
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they are
psychological and social
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implications as
well. That's correct
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and you might ask
which came first the chicken
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or the egg because
sometimes this obesity
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often a result after eating.
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Yes the result of
somebody trying to fill
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avoid in their life,
to something that you
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access fraction out
off. Don't forget about
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themselves but
they are happy when they
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are eating. They
get a bit of a stimulus
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out of that, and
they tense to solve
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that problem from
them.The other thing
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is some people see
obesity not consciously
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but subconsciously
they want this extra rumor
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on them because
they fear intumesce
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and this obesity
tense to accomplish that
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first of all
because they tend to be
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considered less
attractive as you
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mentioned earlier
and second all because
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they do have
this distance that is
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automatically
between them and anothers.
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So, for example
woman that have been victim
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of rape or other
violent crimes especially
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when society often
labels it is having
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sexually
connotation whether psychologist
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label that way are not
they often if you heard
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woman even articulate
that's they said well,
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I had this unfortunate
experience ones it will
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not happen again
because I am so obese
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this is a protective mechanism
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whether it's
conscious or unconscious.
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Yes. And that's
exactly what we are thinking
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about here and so sometimes the,
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you know the way
to get out obesity
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may not happen
through just dieting
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it may be a whole,
you know whole person
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approach thinking about
to solve the social issues
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before you can really
get out the physical once.
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So, it is an
important concept they were
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talking about as
you trying to get people
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practical tools
for losing weight.
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We are trying to put
this in the construct
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the poor person's
health and if you are carrying
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extra weight the
purpose again is not to
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make you feel guilty
but help to appreciate
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the far reaching
implication of carrying
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extra pounds and
then to give you some
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insights and the
things that may be
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over looking that
we make a difference.
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Where Dr. Clark
has been saying to this
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point is some type
of counseling whether
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Pastoral
Counseling or other things not
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necessarily
specifically about weight
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but recognizing
that they are may be
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some things going
on in the background
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may be even in your
past that are making a
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difficult if not
impossible to shut
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the pounds with
lifestyle approaching.
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And Dr. Clark we know
that they are many people
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and you make this
association overeating
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and weight gain but
they are many people
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who are
overweight and very careful
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their eating and if
you sat down with them
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you follow them
through out the day
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and you follow the
next neighbor who is thin
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they actually
may be eating less.
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They actually may be eating less
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in some cases
and they very upset
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by categorizations
like they are glutton
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or care
controller appetite because
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sometimes that's not operative.
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When it comes to eating now,
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are there certain
things other than just total
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amount calories in
that make differences
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for as the
whole weight equation.
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Yes. And I
think of a lady in our
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community up there in Maine, who
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weighed 500
pounds and she decided
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she wanted to
lose weight and she did
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some research on it,
she was fairly bright
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educated person as
she is working in a
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secretarial
position and decided to the
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best way to lose
weight was to get exercise
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walking and go to on
a total flat food diet
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Right. And so she
was too embarrassed
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though to walk in the day time.
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So, she would go to a
graveyard at about 3AM.
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And walk she did
this for I think a year
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and half and lost
about 150 pounds before
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she would decide she could walk
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all people can see
her. And over the course
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well I think four
years she lost all the weight
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she was thin. But all the sudden
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this is interesting
she became a kind of
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upset because people
who before would not look
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at her, now want to talk
to her and be her friend.
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That's it. And this
is very offensive to her,
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but she felt they didn't
value her for who she was.
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This is very
important to the guys because
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many people don't
realize that when it is
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dramatic change in
appearance there are
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significant
psychological implications.
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People will
treat you differently,
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it will effect relationships
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it may cause broken
relationships because
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may be people with your
close to are intimate with
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their perception may change,
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they may be more insecure.
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Especially they feel that they,
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that someone more
attractive with him
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and they are not worthy
is all kinds of dynamics
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it will happen
here. So weight issues
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are not just issues
that involve physiology,
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they psychology,
it is one of the key
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messages we want
to give you today if
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you having
challenges when it comes to
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weigh lose. When
I saying these men
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were in problem
we are just saying
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look at the whole
range of spiritual and
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psychological
resources because these can be
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very important in whole process.
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Well, Dr. Clark, I
have got a statement
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here from
Medical Journal but I am
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interested in your feedback
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and this came out
not all that long ago
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but it was in a
publication written
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for doctors.
Here's how they put these,
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kids use to walk to
school eat dinner with
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their family
and ride their bikes
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through the neighborhoods.
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Today, America's
children are more apt
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to curl up with a bag of chips
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and an after school
video than to play outdoors.
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Most would chose a
big Mac and fries over
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a tuna sandwich and an apple.
They spend about four hours
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a day watching
television playing video games
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and using a
computer and they are fatter
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and more sedentary
then previous generations.
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Childhood obesity is
at an unprecedented high.
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What do you think of
that characterization of our
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children is that
warranted? Oh! I think that
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a just a
statement of observation
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and its true that diseases
that are result of obesity
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have crept lower and
lower in the age brackets in our
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country, grade school kids
are now getting diabetes type 2
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which used to only
be called Adult-onset.
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And as a consequence
there has been a number of
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school programs that
have been put together
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just for children to
help them with diabetes
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and I have seen a
number of these. Some of them
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have been put together
by students for students.
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PowerPoint presentations
and whole things like this
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and so the concern is
there that as obesity increases,
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other degenerative
diseases will also increase
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and longevity will
become a thing of the past.
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So, one of the
interesting implications
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of this is often times
people that struggle with weight
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and adulthood are
struggling with the consequences
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of things that became
operative in childhood
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and so the family
environment is often
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something that comes
into focus even people
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that are in now in
their 50s, 60s or older
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when obesity was not
as prevalent in childhood
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often carried extra
weight in childhood.
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They may have come from a family
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where weight was a
problem and so as we speak
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about these issues
again it's not to label
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you as a bad person.
Your person of immense value
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and to not speak about
the subject and to give you
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pointers would be
doing you a disservice,
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you would expect a
show that does programs
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on health, to not
uncommonly address
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from different perspectives
from the minds of different
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professionals things
that you can do to address
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what is really
an American scourge.
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Sixty seven percent,
that's a current statistic
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of Americans are
either overweight or obese
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and so we are speaking
today about things you can do.
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You may not be able
to change your childhood
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background but
what lessons Dr. Clark
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can we learn from some of
these childhood risk factors,
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whether its more
television viewing of things,
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we are on television right now.
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You and I are speaking,
is television associated;
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television watching, is
it associate with obesity.
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Yes, that sure is.
The thing that happens
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when you watch a TV is
it basically puts your mind
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in the Alpha wave. It
sends you into sleep waves
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and at the same time it tends
to stimulate your appetite.
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So you sit there
mindlessly eating food
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and the hours pass
and the calories pass
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and pretty soon that you
have not only lowered your
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metabolism but you've
upped your calorie load
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and so watching TV
and eating fast-food
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is associated with
obesity, it's also associated
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with diabetes. Let's
give a key point here then,
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if you're
concerned about your weight
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one of the things
you should do is only eat
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at the kitchen table, don't
eat in front of the television
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set and I actually,
I would like to suggest
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Dr. Clark that the kind
of viewing that's featured on
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3ABN and other
wholesome networks
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is much differed than
the fear that most people
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are watching.
These psychologists
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and the medical
researchers who have looked
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at television in
connection with obesity.
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They have drawn
conclusions like Dr. Clark has,
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but they taken one step further
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and this may have between
the lines and your comments,
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but they say this
appetite that's being driven as
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you mentioned, it's not just
that they are sitting in front
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of the TV, its what they're
seeing, it's the commercials.
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It's the companies that are paid
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for the placements
of their soft drink
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in the hands of the felt
heroine in the soap opera
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and the message
is being given by
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Television programming,
convention programming
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we are not talking
about 3ABN but saying
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you can basically
eat anything you want,
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eat at anytime
you want and you can
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have the perfect figure. Yeah.
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You know and this
kind of gets back to
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where we were
headed earlier with
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are there you know foods
that are better are worse,
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you talked about the
neighbor who is the same weight,
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but are different weight
but they eat the same thing
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and then I talked about
the lady that put herself
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on a planned based diet. Right.
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And this is one
of the keys here,
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these things they
advertise on television
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or not necessarily designed
to help you lose weight.
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So not lots of
commercials on televisions
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basically touting whole
grains and lots of vegetables
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and things, eating more beans,
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are there many
commercials out there like that?
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Yeah, where's the bean! Okay,
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so basically what we
are saying eating more plant
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foods may not be as extreme
as the patient you mentioned,
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we're not saying that
everyone who is trying to lose
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weight has to
become a total vegetarian
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but these foods they
are loaded with nutrients
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and when you eat,
especially vegetables
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if you haven't heard this
before the three classes of
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vegetables that are
the best for diabetes
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and weight loss are what
I like to call the stalk,
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stem, and flower vegetables.
Excuse me leaf, stem,
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and flower vegetable,
stalk and stem are the same.
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So, Dr. Clark what does
that conjure up in your mind?
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Alright. On vegetables.
I think of broccoli right
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away when you say
that. They have the stem
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and the flower but a
leaf like spinach or kale
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or that kind of
cabbage, lettuce.
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Exactly, so
these things are loaded
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with nutrients, very
little calories and most people
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who have problems over
eating will not to tend
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to over eat on these
foods. It's very rare,
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but I have dealt with a patient
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there has been a few
exceptions over my 20 or so
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years of medical
work who have told me they
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overeat on some of this
leaf, stem or flower vegetables.
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Dr. Clark, meal
timing, it's something that
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a lot of researchers
looked at. What do you think
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about that? Can
someone eat the same number of
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the calories but eat
it at a different time
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a day and have a
totally different
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result as far as their weight.
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Absolutely those who
don't eat a regular breakfast
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by not eating a
regular breakfast,
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we mean people who
skip or eat it at various
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times or eat
scantily. Those people
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who do not eat a
regular breakfast are twice
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as apt to be
obese as those who eat
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a regular good breakfast.
You know, it's a surprising
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statistics because a
lot of people say well,
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I'm trying to lose
weight, so I'll skip a meal.
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But your body
physiologically is differed
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later in the day.
Your program to rebuild
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the body, to
rebuild even fat stores,
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so the calories
that you eat at night,
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it's not just because
you don't exercise as much,
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metabolically
you're primed to use those
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calories to go
toward weight gain.
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Dr. Clark early in the
day physiologically your body,
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what's it up to?
When you first get up in
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the morning you
should be more hungry
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that is if you didn't
need eat your breakfast
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the night
before. Eat the breakfast
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the night before, like the
evening snack or late supper.
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Evening snack or late
supper. And so your body isn't
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looking for food,
people who eat breakfast before
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they go to work
are more productive,
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those that don't eat
breakfast get less productive.
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those that don't
eat breakfast when they
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get to work are less productive.
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Kids who eat breakfast
before they go to school
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can make better
grades, have higher IQs,
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those who don't eat
they don't have the energy to
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keep the brain
going. People who eat
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after 5 O'clock in the
evening on the other hand
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see most of that
food turned to weight.
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So really even if people
are eating the same amount
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of food, the research
literature is very clear
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that avoiding as
many calories as possible
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later in the day
is going to help you
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shed some of those
pounds, I have seen that
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many times in my
patients John, no doubt
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you have over the years as well,
00:19:10.31\00:19:11.80
just switching
that evening meal,
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eating more early in day
has made a big difference.
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Yes. You know, one
of the things I am very,
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very interested in as we speak
about this topic is hunger.
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Yes. Because if people don't eat
00:19:23.82\00:19:26.84
breakfast what
then happens to them
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when they show up
at work 8 O'clock.
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Well, they're
running on a deficit
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they are trying to make
food from the night before
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as meal, which
isn't gonna be glucose,
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it's gonna probably be
ketones and other products
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that aren't the
body's favorite food,
00:19:43.70\00:19:45.84
especially the
brain's favorite food,
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they won't feel as awake.
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So as a
consequence they're usually
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reach for a coffee or
some other you know chemical
00:19:51.55\00:19:55.66
substance to help boost them,
00:19:55.69\00:19:58.01
make them feel like they
have the energy that they
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want to have. They'll
eat high glycemic index
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foods like donuts, that
will spike their blood sugar up
00:20:03.86\00:20:06.78
and then they will
have a real deficit
00:20:06.81\00:20:08.35
when it comes
down cause what goes up
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must come down and it
usually comes down hard.
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And so they usually
end up with more hunger
00:20:13.42\00:20:16.98
and instead of eating
breakfast they end up eating
00:20:17.01\00:20:19.66
more calories and snack
foods to make up for the energy
00:20:19.69\00:20:23.38
they need and
it isn't good food.
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Good point, so
basically what we are saying
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there is some simple
pointers that can help make
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a difference as
far as losing weight.
00:20:30.78\00:20:32.33
First of all pay
attention to the spiritual
00:20:32.36\00:20:34.95
and social
connections in weight,
00:20:34.98\00:20:36.44
take advantage of professionals
00:20:36.47\00:20:38.31
whether it's your pastor,
whether if you're spending
00:20:38.34\00:20:40.67
more time with God's word.
There are simple principles
00:20:40.70\00:20:44.34
of mental health
and social health
00:20:44.37\00:20:46.39
that can make a
difference and counseling
00:20:46.42\00:20:48.65
can often be helpful.
We are not saying you have
00:20:48.68\00:20:50.84
a mental problem,
realize that's not the point
00:20:50.87\00:20:53.47
but these things can
be part of the equation.
00:20:53.50\00:20:55.41
We have talked about
diet, proper food choices,
00:20:55.44\00:20:58.15
eating more of
those plant products,
00:20:58.18\00:21:00.03
especially the vegetables
and not the root vegetables
00:21:00.06\00:21:04.03
but especially those
that have a flower, a stalk,
00:21:04.06\00:21:07.81
or a leaf, these can
be very helpful and then
00:21:07.84\00:21:11.03
prioritize a proper meal timing,
00:21:11.06\00:21:13.09
eating a good
breakfast, a very important,
00:21:13.12\00:21:15.59
not eating between
meals and then keeping
00:21:15.62\00:21:17.99
anything you eat late at
night to a minimum at least
00:21:18.02\00:21:20.91
as far as the caloric intake.
00:21:20.94\00:21:22.48
Now, Dr. Clark we
have talked about exercise
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a little bit, we have
mentioned its importance,
00:21:25.88\00:21:27.90
but it seems like we
really need to give some
00:21:27.93\00:21:31.12
more practical
information about exercise
00:21:31.15\00:21:33.41
because it is an important
part of the equation isn't it?
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Oh! Exercise is
definitely an important part
00:21:35.81\00:21:38.45
of equation, this is
your way of burning calories
00:21:38.48\00:21:40.79
and you might wonder
when is the best time
00:21:40.82\00:21:43.95
to exercise and
there is a number of times
00:21:43.98\00:21:46.42
that are very valuable.
Exercise before breakfast
00:21:46.45\00:21:50.19
tends to burn a lot of calories
00:21:50.22\00:21:52.29
and its important
also for stimulating
00:21:52.32\00:21:55.61
a better appetite for breakfast.
00:21:55.64\00:21:57.32
Excellent point. When
you're dropping an evening meal,
00:21:57.35\00:22:00.25
the other thing is to
walk immediately after eating,
00:22:00.28\00:22:04.10
this aids in the digestion
of the food you do eat.
00:22:04.13\00:22:07.47
Now you're talking
about eating more stems,
00:22:07.50\00:22:11.06
leaves and flowers and
a person who is not used
00:22:11.09\00:22:14.25
to eating that a lot
may experience some changes
00:22:14.28\00:22:17.15
and they might
end up with some gas
00:22:17.18\00:22:19.95
or some other problems
that they might feel as a reason
00:22:19.98\00:22:23.56
why they shouldn't
change, but most people
00:22:23.59\00:22:26.07
if they make the switch
within three or four weeks.
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Will get over the gas
problems, their system
00:22:28.66\00:22:30.98
will change to like the
new foods, their appetites
00:22:31.01\00:22:33.65
will change,
their taste will change
00:22:33.68\00:22:35.57
and it will become a
way of life and they'll be
00:22:35.60\00:22:38.47
more healthy for
it. You won't only feel,
00:22:38.50\00:22:40.29
you know you'll not
only be losing weight
00:22:40.32\00:22:42.52
but you will be feeling
better at the same time.
00:22:42.55\00:22:44.32
Now, I think there is
an important connection and
00:22:44.35\00:22:46.25
recently we were
holding a program at our church,
00:22:46.42\00:22:49.63
helping people
make healthier nutrition
00:22:49.79\00:22:51.97
choices especially with
the, from the frame work
00:22:52.00\00:22:54.44
of preventing heart disease,
we're actually running a
00:22:54.47\00:22:57.05
chip program many
of you who watch 3ABN
00:22:57.08\00:22:59.94
of Dr. Hans Diehl
and his coronary health
00:22:59.97\00:23:02.87
improvement project
and that's what we saw,
00:23:02.90\00:23:05.70
as people were losing
weight it wasn't specifically
00:23:05.73\00:23:09.55
a weight loss
program but they were making
00:23:09.58\00:23:11.33
healthier choices and
what were they saying,
00:23:11.36\00:23:13.83
they were saying I feel better,
00:23:13.86\00:23:15.73
my quality of life is better.
00:23:15.76\00:23:17.64
So, as we are looking at
this issues its not again
00:23:17.67\00:23:21.93
to make people feel
worse0 than they already do.
00:23:21.96\00:23:24.70
It's to say look they're
simple things you can do.
00:23:24.73\00:23:27.50
They were
pointers, some other insights
00:23:27.53\00:23:29.77
that you can take advantage of,
00:23:29.80\00:23:31.39
that can make a difference.
If we can give you just
00:23:31.42\00:23:33.36
a little bit more incentive,
a little bit more motivation
00:23:33.39\00:23:36.58
to do some of these
things you already know,
00:23:36.61\00:23:39.19
to rely on God, to
help you put in to practice
00:23:39.22\00:23:43.61
just what you know you can
see some profound benefits.
00:23:43.64\00:23:46.77
Now, Dr. Clark this
bring us to another issue,
00:23:46.80\00:23:49.32
because whenever
speak about weight reduction
00:23:49.35\00:23:51.97
someone is thinking in
the back of their mind.
00:23:52.31\00:23:54.84
Oh! Yeah. There
is that weight chart
00:23:54.87\00:23:57.71
and the doctor said I've
got to lose a hundred pounds
00:23:57.74\00:24:00.25
or my ideal weight is 233
pounds less than I weigh now.
00:24:00.28\00:24:06.96
How useful in your work
with patients over years
00:24:06.99\00:24:09.99
do you find it to
have a goal weight.
00:24:10.02\00:24:13.20
Well, you know I
don't find it that useful.
00:24:14.09\00:24:17.16
I mean its
oblivious if you're, you know
00:24:17.19\00:24:19.56
300 pounds that there is
goal some what below that,
00:24:19.59\00:24:22.56
but I often
like to tell patients
00:24:22.63\00:24:24.97
you want a
fitness or a health goal.
00:24:25.00\00:24:28.65
Amen. Amen. Yes,
that you can shoot for,
00:24:28.68\00:24:31.49
and in this case a
fitness goal might involve
00:24:31.52\00:24:34.91
a goal as how far you can walk
00:24:34.94\00:24:37.60
or what exercise
you can accomplish,
00:24:37.63\00:24:40.10
what work you can do?
Or you know a fitness goal
00:24:40.13\00:24:45.33
might have to do
with how long you
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can keep your heart
rate up at a certain level.
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Now, this is, it's so important
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because a lot of people I
think set themselves up to
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failure because of
society, because of other people
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in the family,
your thinking your not a
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success when it
comes to your weight
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unless you get down
to a certain amount,
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and so you make
good progress with a good
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program and then
John, you know what happens
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these people they
can't on a realistic program,
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because of their early
lifestyle influences, maybe
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their genetics
maybe other factors
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they can't get down to
being 5.2 ft and weighing a 110,
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it will never happen
and be able to maintain
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a reasonable
lifestyle. So, when they plateau
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at a 140 and they're
5.2 ft and someone is saying
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you still look kind of
chubby, even though they've lost
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60 pounds they
feel like a failure
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and this is the greatest
disservice anyone can do.
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This person has made
a tremendous progress.
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Yeah, you know, you
started out talking about
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the television and what kind
of models are put before us.
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Amazing isn't it. Those
are not the best models,
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I mean they get these
cachectic, by cachectic
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I mean underweight and poorly,
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they're not very healthy people.
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Models, wearing clothing
that bare, you know that's
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very and this is not
the goal. The goal is a good
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health goal and a
good fitness goal and
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you have to you know
tread against the currents
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in that sometimes
tell people yeah you know
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I am not shooting
for being a supermodel,
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I am shooting
being me at a weight that
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I enjoy and that
makes me healthy.
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That's right.
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Do not, you know
the important message
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I think we're
giving is do not let anyone
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discourage you in your
efforts because you have only
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"only lost five pounds."
I don't care how much you
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weigh, but the medical
research literature shows
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a small changes in
weight, small loses in weight
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can have profound
differences in decreasing
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risk of diabetes
of heart diseases,
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of high blood pressure.
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John you have seen that no doubt
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even dealing with
arthritis, haven't you?
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Oh! Definitely and in
arthritis say arthritis
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of the knee, if
you're overweight and
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you have pain in the
knees they have shown
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that if you can
lose 10 percent weight
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you get a 28 percent
improvement in knee function.
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Tremendous. Tremendous. Yeah.
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The returns are
good. You know John,
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this message to me is
an encouraging message
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and I just pray that
we did justice to it.
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If you have been listening
today and your carrying
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some extra
pounds. The message is
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you're precious to
God even if you gain
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weight over the next
week or over the next year
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but the flip
side is equally true
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God wants to you have
optimal health. Jesus said
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I have come that you might
life and have it abundantly
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and there are
lifestyle factors that can
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help you help you trim down,
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they may not cause
you to have "model figure"
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you may never reached that goal
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weight that someone said
you're supposed to weigh.
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You may not look just
like your twin brother
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or twin sister even
though you are twins
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but the message is a
simple lifestyle program,
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healthy diet, exercise,
mental health, social health,
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all of these things can
go a long way to helping you
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to lose some pounds and
experience a greater sense
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of well being and
even a clear mind.
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For Wonderfully
Made, I'm Dr. David DeRose.
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