The following program presents principles 00:00:01.98\00:00:02.95 designed to promote good health 00:00:02.96\00:00:03.93 and is not intended to take the place of 00:00:03.94\00:00:06.12 personalized professional care. 00:00:06.15\00:00:07.87 The opinions and ideas expressed are those 00:00:07.90\00:00:10.76 of the speaker. Viewers are encouraged to 00:00:10.79\00:00:13.03 draw their own conclusions about the 00:00:13.06\00:00:14.95 information presented. 00:00:14.98\00:00:16.15 Hi and welcome to 'Wonderfully Made.' 00:00:35.35\00:00:37.86 My name is Sheryl McWilliams. 00:00:37.89\00:00:39.36 And our guest today is Dr. Timothy Howe. 00:00:39.39\00:00:41.69 Hi, Dr. Howe, and thank you for being here. 00:00:41.72\00:00:44.12 It's a pleasure to be with you. 00:00:44.15\00:00:45.64 This is a wonderful program on 00:00:45.67\00:00:48.04 Wonderfully Made. Certainly our creator 00:00:48.07\00:00:50.68 has made us wonderfully. Absolutely, today 00:00:50.71\00:00:54.03 we're gonna be talking about a topic that 00:00:54.06\00:00:55.83 I find very interesting. It seems that whenever 00:00:55.86\00:00:59.08 I'm in the supermarket or the store these days 00:00:59.11\00:01:01.69 I'm seeing ads for vitamins and supplements. 00:01:01.72\00:01:05.07 Folks even knocking on my door requesting 00:01:05.10\00:01:07.87 that I listen to their information about 00:01:07.90\00:01:10.14 their particular brand or vitamin. 00:01:10.17\00:01:12.22 I'm really confused on which ones 00:01:12.25\00:01:14.71 are the best ones to take and how do I know and, 00:01:14.74\00:01:17.61 and really what to do. So, I'm hoping 00:01:17.64\00:01:19.29 you can shed some light on this topic. 00:01:19.32\00:01:20.82 Vitamins and supplements are a very 00:01:21.87\00:01:24.34 interesting topic. We know from hundreds of 00:01:24.37\00:01:28.86 scientific studies that the more vitamins 00:01:28.89\00:01:31.82 and minerals you get in your food, 00:01:31.85\00:01:34.18 the richer your diet is in anti-oxidants, 00:01:34.21\00:01:37.83 the less heart disease you'll have, 00:01:37.86\00:01:40.03 the less cancer you have, the less infections 00:01:40.06\00:01:43.55 you'll have. And we are so interested 00:01:43.58\00:01:46.97 as people of course to have less cancer 00:01:47.00\00:01:50.12 and heart disease and less infections, 00:01:50.15\00:01:52.73 less chronic diseases. So, we assume that 00:01:52.76\00:01:56.59 if you need more and more is better than 00:01:56.62\00:01:59.47 let's open up a bottle and get them. 00:01:59.50\00:02:02.67 Because of that idea, scientists started 00:02:02.70\00:02:06.92 several big studies to answer the question, 00:02:06.95\00:02:09.78 will taking vitamins help us. 00:02:09.81\00:02:13.63 One of the best studies done was published 00:02:13.66\00:02:17.40 in 1994, in the New England Journal of 00:02:17.43\00:02:20.28 Medicine. It's referred today 00:02:20.31\00:02:22.06 to as the finish study. What they did is 00:02:22.09\00:02:26.27 they took a large group of men, 00:02:26.30\00:02:28.61 who were all smokers, from our studies in 00:02:28.64\00:02:33.09 populations looking at their diets, 00:02:33.12\00:02:35.51 we knew that taking vitamin A, Beta-carotene, 00:02:35.54\00:02:40.80 vitamin E, Alfa-Tocoferol would lower 00:02:40.83\00:02:45.66 the risk of cancer. If you get it in your diet 00:02:45.69\00:02:50.11 it lowers your risk, let's give you a 00:02:50.14\00:02:52.31 little more in a pill form and see 00:02:52.34\00:02:54.83 if it helps even more. So, they did that study 00:02:54.86\00:02:58.08 and they found something very interesting. 00:02:58.11\00:03:00.37 They found that in the men that 00:03:00.40\00:03:03.38 they supplemented vitamin A or a Beta-carotene 00:03:03.41\00:03:06.46 and vitamin E, their risk of cancer didn't go down, 00:03:06.49\00:03:11.97 it went up, it actually went up. 00:03:12.00\00:03:15.69 Now, that is a little frightening. 00:03:15.72\00:03:19.11 The last thing that I want to do, 00:03:19.14\00:03:21.65 is go out to the store and buy these wonderful 00:03:21.68\00:03:25.15 vitamins and find out that as a result of 00:03:25.18\00:03:28.36 taking them, I have a higher cancer risk. 00:03:28.39\00:03:31.85 Absolutely, we take them supposedly to decrease 00:03:31.88\00:03:35.06 our risk of disease and not to mention 00:03:35.09\00:03:37.70 they're extremely expensive 00:03:37.73\00:03:38.95 or at least the ones that I've seen. 00:03:38.98\00:03:40.48 People spend a lot of money on this stuff. 00:03:40.51\00:03:43.04 They certainly do spend a lot of money. 00:03:43.07\00:03:46.24 They couldn't believe that study you know, 00:03:46.27\00:03:48.70 they, they, they, they scratch their heads 00:03:48.73\00:03:51.30 and they said, how can this be. 00:03:51.33\00:03:52.74 We have hundreds of studies, 00:03:52.77\00:03:54.59 literally hundreds of studies showing that 00:03:54.62\00:03:56.54 if we get more Beta-carotene 00:03:56.57\00:03:58.91 and anti-oxidants and vitamins in our diet, 00:03:58.94\00:04:02.71 we'll have a lower risk. And yet when 00:04:02.74\00:04:04.34 we give them to people from a pill bottle, 00:04:04.37\00:04:07.38 the risk goes up. What's at play here? 00:04:07.41\00:04:10.28 Well, they had to repeat the study and so they did 00:04:10.31\00:04:13.98 another study, it's called the caret study, 00:04:14.01\00:04:16.12 not RROT, but CARET study, published in the 00:04:16.15\00:04:22.31 New England Journal Medicine in 1996. 00:04:22.34\00:04:24.70 In that study, they also supplemented vitamin A 00:04:24.73\00:04:28.83 and vitamin E. You know, they found early 00:04:28.86\00:04:31.94 on in this study that cancer rates went up 00:04:31.97\00:04:34.79 and heart disease rates went up. 00:04:34.82\00:04:36.60 In fact, it was such a mark change 00:04:36.63\00:04:39.40 that they stopped the study. 00:04:39.43\00:04:41.66 Because, people were dying from supplementing 00:04:41.69\00:04:45.63 these vitamins. Wow! They went back 00:04:45.66\00:04:48.83 and looked at the finished study 00:04:48.86\00:04:51.37 and did subgroup analysis and found something 00:04:51.40\00:04:55.00 very interesting. What they found is, 00:04:55.03\00:04:57.68 in the people that had the highest intake of 00:04:57.71\00:05:03.15 Beta-carotene in their diets, 00:05:03.18\00:05:05.03 they were the ones that have the lowest risk 00:05:05.06\00:05:08.65 of cancer at the end of the study. 00:05:08.68\00:05:12.06 So, you have sort of a conundrum here, 00:05:12.09\00:05:14.77 if you have a high amount of Beta-carotene 00:05:14.80\00:05:19.21 in your food, you have a low risk of cancer, 00:05:19.24\00:05:23.53 if you add vitamin A or Beta-carotene 00:05:23.56\00:05:27.64 in from a pill, you have a high risk. 00:05:27.67\00:05:31.05 Confusing, isn't it? Very confusing. 00:05:31.08\00:05:34.09 Yeah, interesting though, what they fail to 00:05:34.12\00:05:38.31 realize is, Beta-carotene is only one of over 600 00:05:38.34\00:05:46.29 different types of carotene. 00:05:46.32\00:05:48.40 And I can't tell you which one of those 600 00:05:48.43\00:05:53.52 might be important, but I can tell you 00:05:53.55\00:05:56.57 that if you take excess Beta-carotene, 00:05:56.60\00:06:00.14 you will interfere with the absorption of those 00:06:00.17\00:06:04.23 other carotenes or carotenoids, 00:06:04.26\00:06:06.78 carotene like compounds. Balance is what 00:06:06.81\00:06:11.07 we're after, it's very important to maintain 00:06:11.10\00:06:14.61 that careful balance of nutrients 00:06:14.64\00:06:17.38 found in our food. So, what I hear you saying 00:06:17.41\00:06:21.96 is that it's better to actually get our, 00:06:21.99\00:06:25.15 our nutrients, our vitamins from the food 00:06:25.18\00:06:28.35 that we eat as apposed to a pill. 00:06:28.38\00:06:30.29 Absolutely, you know, I, I, when I eat 00:06:30.32\00:06:34.12 my vegetables, and when I eat my fruits. 00:06:34.15\00:06:36.88 I, I'm, I'm kind of particular, 00:06:36.91\00:06:39.56 I don't like to eat old fruit you know, 00:06:39.59\00:06:43.77 that's a little bit bad or I don't like 00:06:43.80\00:06:46.48 wilted vegetables, I like them fresh. 00:06:46.51\00:06:49.07 You know, the last time you ate your vitamins, 00:06:49.10\00:06:52.80 did you open up the bottle and say, 00:06:52.83\00:06:55.75 I wonder if you're fresh, you know. 00:06:55.78\00:06:58.76 How long has it been since those 00:06:58.79\00:07:02.22 vitamins were fresh? I simply look at the 00:07:02.25\00:07:05.02 expiration date. Well, is that what you do with 00:07:05.05\00:07:09.05 fruit and vegetables? I think it's very important 00:07:09.08\00:07:12.53 to have your vitamins fresh plus, 00:07:12.56\00:07:14.77 the last time you looked at your vitamin pill, 00:07:14.80\00:07:18.12 your bottle you know if you look at it. 00:07:18.15\00:07:20.64 There's a whole long list vitamin A, 00:07:20.67\00:07:23.08 vitamin B, 1, 2, 3, 4, you know, 00:07:23.11\00:07:26.16 all of these things, but are you sure 00:07:26.19\00:07:30.36 you're getting them in the right balance? 00:07:30.39\00:07:31.74 And what about the ones that aren't mentioned 00:07:31.77\00:07:34.54 there? For instance, blueberries. 00:07:34.57\00:07:36.68 Now, blueberries are an interesting fruit. 00:07:36.71\00:07:39.57 They're one of the richest, the very richest 00:07:39.60\00:07:42.37 in anti-oxidants. Do you know that blueberries 00:07:42.40\00:07:47.89 have over 150 phytochemicals in them. 00:07:47.92\00:07:52.71 Wow! Now, does your vitamin pill have over a 00:07:52.74\00:07:57.29 150 phytochemicals? I doubt it, 00:07:57.32\00:08:01.86 and that's only one. But there are many 00:08:01.89\00:08:04.93 other fruits and vegetables, aren't they? 00:08:04.96\00:08:07.30 Another one that people have looked 00:08:07.33\00:08:10.50 at is vitamin E. You perhaps have some friends, 00:08:10.53\00:08:13.80 I'm sure you wouldn't take vitamin E, 00:08:13.83\00:08:15.60 but you maybe have some friends 00:08:15.63\00:08:17.25 that are taking vitamin E. We used to say, 00:08:17.28\00:08:19.90 you have-to-have vitamin E for your heart, 00:08:19.93\00:08:22.23 it will reduce your heart disease risk. 00:08:22.26\00:08:24.04 And indeed vitamin E does seem to thin the blood, 00:08:24.07\00:08:29.14 but it doesn't reduce your risk of 00:08:30.08\00:08:33.52 heart disease. In fact, it's not recommended 00:08:33.55\00:08:36.57 any longer that you take vitamin E to reduce 00:08:36.60\00:08:38.78 your risk of heart disease. Not only does 00:08:38.81\00:08:41.28 heart disease not go down very much, 00:08:41.31\00:08:43.81 but your risk of having a hemorrhagic stroke 00:08:43.84\00:08:48.96 goes up. So, you take your vitamin E to help 00:08:48.99\00:08:53.06 your heart. You don't help your heart 00:08:53.09\00:08:55.19 and on the other hand, you have a stroke. 00:08:55.22\00:08:58.09 What kind of a trade is that? 00:08:58.12\00:08:59.82 Doesn't sound like much of a bargain to me. 00:08:59.85\00:09:01.93 Not one that I want. Something that I've read 00:09:01.96\00:09:05.04 recently is that, it seems that and some of the, 00:09:05.07\00:09:08.92 the cases of vitamins that perhaps 00:09:08.95\00:09:11.00 what's listed on the bottle, is it 00:09:11.03\00:09:13.19 necessarily what's inside? Well, that maybe 00:09:13.22\00:09:17.13 the case because they're not controlled by the FTA, 00:09:17.16\00:09:21.13 they put on there and what they put on there 00:09:21.16\00:09:25.04 and there's not a lot of oversight. Furthermore 00:09:25.07\00:09:28.25 just because it has the vitamin on the, 00:09:28.28\00:09:30.52 on the, listed on the bottle doesn't mean that 00:09:30.55\00:09:33.96 it is well absorbed. When the vitamin is in the food 00:09:33.99\00:09:37.93 usually it's very well absorbed the way 00:09:37.96\00:09:41.03 it's presented to your body, but not necessarily 00:09:41.06\00:09:46.01 so in the pill. I have a saying that, 00:09:46.04\00:09:49.17 if humans have messed with it, 00:09:49.20\00:09:51.30 they probably messed it up and this seems 00:09:51.33\00:09:53.36 like a good example of that. 00:09:53.39\00:09:54.84 Yes, I think there's some truth in that. 00:09:54.87\00:09:56.92 Another question I have is related to the source 00:09:56.95\00:09:59.92 of these vitamins. Not long ago, 00:09:59.95\00:10:02.35 I was prescribed a prenatal vitamin 00:10:02.38\00:10:05.47 as a result of the pregnancy. 00:10:05.50\00:10:07.00 And I went to the pharmacy in order to; 00:10:07.03\00:10:09.48 to inquire about this and asked the source 00:10:09.51\00:10:12.21 of the vitamin, where did the vitamin come from? 00:10:12.24\00:10:14.59 Was it an animal source or vegetables source, 00:10:14.62\00:10:17.35 synthetic, where exactly did it come from? 00:10:17.38\00:10:20.43 The pharmacist didn't have a clue and was most 00:10:20.46\00:10:23.73 uninterested in, in learning, 00:10:23.76\00:10:25.66 he gave me a number, I called the number 00:10:25.69\00:10:27.87 and learned that many of the vitamins 00:10:27.90\00:10:30.43 in this particular brand came from animal sources 00:10:30.46\00:10:35.19 and a number of them came from pig from, 00:10:35.22\00:10:37.68 from swine that was a problem for me. 00:10:37.71\00:10:40.85 So, I went back to the pharmacist and said, 00:10:40.88\00:10:43.27 this is what I learned and, and can you help me 00:10:43.30\00:10:45.88 find the vitamin that does not contain at least 00:10:45.91\00:10:48.66 pig products and that was a concern for him 00:10:48.69\00:10:52.19 due to religious consideration. 00:10:52.22\00:10:54.12 So, he started and of that particular pharmacy, 00:10:54.15\00:10:56.88 which is in a very well-known pharmacy, 00:10:56.91\00:10:59.08 they did not have a vitamin, 00:10:59.11\00:11:02.01 a prenatal vitamin which did not contain 00:11:02.04\00:11:04.11 animal products and specifically 00:11:04.14\00:11:06.22 you know pig. I mean and, and that was primarily 00:11:06.25\00:11:09.38 related to vitamin D, but that was shocking to me. 00:11:09.41\00:11:12.25 Yes, many of the vitamins, their source 00:11:12.28\00:11:15.57 is not identified on the bottle. Vitamin B12 comes 00:11:15.60\00:11:20.57 from animals specifically. It is not 00:11:20.60\00:11:23.86 naturally occurring in plant food. 00:11:23.89\00:11:26.10 It has to be from an animal source. 00:11:26.13\00:11:29.25 Even the vitamin B12 in the soil 00:11:29.28\00:11:32.32 and this is one question that has to be answered 00:11:32.35\00:11:35.78 for vegans. Now, vegans they don't have anything, 00:11:35.81\00:11:39.71 they don't eat anything that had a mother 00:11:39.74\00:11:41.78 or has a face or came from an animal. 00:11:41.81\00:11:45.87 You know, it's just fresh fruits and vegetables 00:11:45.90\00:11:49.70 and grains and nuts. And the only place 00:11:49.73\00:11:52.60 that they get B12 is from the little bacteria 00:11:52.63\00:11:57.55 in the soil, on root vegetables 00:11:57.58\00:12:00.82 and on vegetables as the soil splashes up on them. 00:12:00.85\00:12:04.11 And that isn't a very rich source, 00:12:04.14\00:12:06.62 all other B12 comes from animal sources. 00:12:06.65\00:12:09.67 Unless, it's synthesized, made in the laboratory. 00:12:09.70\00:12:14.57 You can get synthetic B12, and then it doesn't 00:12:14.60\00:12:18.51 come from your animal source. Vitamin D, 00:12:18.54\00:12:21.56 another classic example, we get it from sunshine. 00:12:21.59\00:12:26.64 You're a vegan I know, so am I and we get vitamin D 00:12:26.67\00:12:30.77 from sunshine, but apart from that the only 00:12:30.80\00:12:33.96 sources of vitamin D are animal sources. 00:12:33.99\00:12:36.70 Now, if your pharmacist was a Muslim, 00:12:36.73\00:12:40.75 or if he was a Seventh-day Adventist 00:12:40.78\00:12:44.36 that would be important to him or Jewish to know 00:12:44.39\00:12:48.24 that most vitamins contained B12 00:12:48.27\00:12:51.44 from animal sources. And almost always 00:12:51.47\00:12:55.12 it's from pigs or swine that they get it. 00:12:55.15\00:12:59.32 Interesting, interesting. Is there ever a time 00:12:59.35\00:13:02.83 when a person should supplement 00:13:02.86\00:13:05.55 and use vitamins from pills? 00:13:05.58\00:13:07.46 That's a good question, and let's first of all go 00:13:07.49\00:13:11.86 back to B12. In the studies that 00:13:11.89\00:13:15.35 had been done, if today you had adequate B12 00:13:15.38\00:13:19.67 in your system. And I said, 00:13:19.70\00:13:21.79 alright no more B12, none, it will take about 00:13:21.82\00:13:26.04 20 to 30 years for you to become deficient in B12 00:13:26.07\00:13:30.43 if you didn't have a problem with 00:13:30.46\00:13:33.61 re-absorption of B12 from your gut, 00:13:33.64\00:13:37.11 backup to your liver and if, as long as 00:13:37.14\00:13:40.06 you were recycling it normally, 00:13:40.09\00:13:41.97 you would not become deficient. 00:13:42.00\00:13:43.52 What would cause you to not be able 00:13:43.55\00:13:45.45 to do that normally? If you had a deficiency of 00:13:45.48\00:13:49.23 intrinsic factor in your gut. And that would be 00:13:49.26\00:13:52.85 B12 deficiency or pernicious anemia 00:13:52.88\00:13:56.27 can cause that. Now, there are varying 00:13:56.30\00:13:58.57 diseases of pernicious anemia or failure 00:13:58.60\00:14:01.83 to absorb B12. You can have someone who just 00:14:01.86\00:14:05.82 has a slight problem with intrinsic factor 00:14:05.85\00:14:08.75 or absorption. People that have for instance, 00:14:08.78\00:14:12.42 had a partial Gastrectomy for because 00:14:12.45\00:14:16.80 they were obese and wanted to lose weight. 00:14:16.83\00:14:18.80 They maybe deficient or if there is a disease of 00:14:18.83\00:14:22.84 the terminal ileum, they may become 00:14:22.87\00:14:25.35 deficient in B12, if there's a question 00:14:25.38\00:14:28.62 and you are on a strict vegan diet, 00:14:28.65\00:14:31.34 get a B12 level tested. It's a very simple 00:14:31.37\00:14:34.86 laboratory test and if you are a little bit low 00:14:34.89\00:14:38.32 or tending toward that side even in the 00:14:38.35\00:14:40.86 normal range, it's a good idea to have a 00:14:40.89\00:14:43.74 synthetic supplement, but that's not 00:14:43.77\00:14:47.06 the majority of people. The majority of us 00:14:47.09\00:14:50.10 get plenty of B12. B12 is found in many of our 00:14:50.13\00:14:54.60 milk, milk substitutes. Of course, 00:14:54.63\00:14:57.16 it isn't milk itself, but most, 00:14:57.19\00:14:59.83 much of the soy milk and nut milks, 00:14:59.86\00:15:02.62 they have B12 added, so, that's not a problem. 00:15:02.65\00:15:06.86 Many of the dry cereals have B12 added too. 00:15:06.89\00:15:11.16 So, that's a very unlikely situation, 00:15:11.19\00:15:14.55 B12 deficiency. As long as you 00:15:14.58\00:15:17.71 don't have a medical problem, but if you are a 00:15:17.74\00:15:20.47 vegan have it tested, if you have a question. 00:15:20.50\00:15:23.57 And particularly, if you don't have a 00:15:23.60\00:15:25.67 regular source of B12. Apart from B12, 00:15:25.70\00:15:29.00 I don't know if any situation were taking 00:15:29.03\00:15:33.19 multi-vitamins and anti-oxidants 00:15:33.22\00:15:36.45 will help you except there are a few studies 00:15:36.48\00:15:39.97 in the elderly showing that they may do better, 00:15:40.00\00:15:44.42 may do better, if they have a multi-vitamin 00:15:44.45\00:15:47.91 supplement. Well, why is that? You know, 00:15:47.94\00:15:52.59 I do, we work with a lot of elderly people 00:15:52.62\00:15:55.74 and you will find that after their spouse dies, 00:15:55.77\00:15:59.29 it's really hard to fix good food. 00:15:59.32\00:16:02.86 And instead of having their fresh vegetables 00:16:02.89\00:16:07.13 and fresh fruit. They just have something 00:16:07.16\00:16:10.76 out of a box. Usually pour a little milk on it, 00:16:10.79\00:16:14.76 and they have dry cereal or something like that. 00:16:14.79\00:16:17.64 Breakfast, lunch, and dinner, they don't, 00:16:17.67\00:16:20.23 they don't get a good diet. Well, 00:16:20.26\00:16:23.25 is it better for them to take it out of a 00:16:23.28\00:16:25.67 pill bottle or would it be better for them 00:16:25.70\00:16:28.63 to eat a wider variety of fresh fruits 00:16:28.66\00:16:31.59 and vegetables. Of course, it would be 00:16:31.62\00:16:35.23 better to get it from a good source. 00:16:35.26\00:16:38.63 If you just take it out of the bottle, 00:16:38.66\00:16:40.88 you're going to get Beta-carotene, 00:16:40.91\00:16:43.09 but how about those other 599 carotenes, 00:16:43.12\00:16:47.07 you may need them. And in fact, you do. 00:16:47.10\00:16:50.68 There are, are many who talk about the 00:16:51.65\00:16:55.33 depletion in terms of soil and, 00:16:55.36\00:16:57.82 and that they take supplements 00:16:57.85\00:16:59.62 because our soil is in such poor shape 00:16:59.65\00:17:01.83 in that without supplements because 00:17:01.86\00:17:04.24 of the, the situation, the soil, 00:17:04.27\00:17:05.75 they just wouldn't be healthy. I'm not sure 00:17:05.78\00:17:09.54 what to think about that? Well, they have a point 00:17:09.57\00:17:12.55 because if your soil is deficient in selenium 00:17:12.58\00:17:17.11 for instance. Then the food isn't going 00:17:17.14\00:17:19.81 to contain as much selenium, 00:17:19.84\00:17:22.46 if it's deficient in Boron, the food isn't 00:17:22.49\00:17:25.91 going to have quite as much Boron, 00:17:25.94\00:17:27.95 but that's not that common, number one. 00:17:27.98\00:17:32.07 And number two, it does not apply to vitamins 00:17:32.10\00:17:35.39 and the anti-oxidants because they don't come 00:17:35.42\00:17:38.06 from the soil. The plants manufacture them 00:17:38.09\00:17:41.36 with sunlight. Even if you have a hydroponic 00:17:41.39\00:17:44.18 tomato that's just grown in the greenhouse, 00:17:44.21\00:17:46.50 if it has that good deep rich red color 00:17:46.53\00:17:50.68 it's going to have plenty of those lycopenes, 00:17:50.71\00:17:54.04 that are so important in the prevention of 00:17:54.07\00:17:56.44 prostate cancer, if you have kale or collards 00:17:56.47\00:18:00.64 grown wherever, if the soil's deficient, 00:18:00.67\00:18:04.34 but they have that deep green color. 00:18:04.37\00:18:06.61 They're still going to have their vitamin A 00:18:06.64\00:18:09.39 and their vitamin C. They're still going to 00:18:09.42\00:18:11.45 have the folate, they're still going to have 00:18:11.48\00:18:13.78 everything you need maybe the minerals. 00:18:13.81\00:18:16.93 I say, if in doubt grow some your own, 00:18:16.96\00:18:21.07 grow your own. You know, it's not a bad idea 00:18:21.10\00:18:24.86 in the summer, try organic gardening. 00:18:24.89\00:18:28.07 I have a son, lets say, organic gardener 00:18:28.10\00:18:31.40 and he has a main organic farmer 00:18:31.43\00:18:34.43 and gardening and association, everything 00:18:34.46\00:18:37.33 he sells is certified organic, 00:18:37.36\00:18:39.91 and when I eat that, I think well I'm set 00:18:39.94\00:18:42.73 and we usually are. It doesn't hurt to grow 00:18:42.76\00:18:45.78 a few, or buy organic, is it necessary? 00:18:45.81\00:18:48.68 No, it isn't, absolutely necessary, 00:18:48.71\00:18:50.96 are there toxins in our food? Sure, 00:18:50.99\00:18:53.59 there are toxins in our food. 00:18:53.62\00:18:55.06 There's mercury in water everywhere 00:18:55.09\00:18:57.78 on this planet, it's not ideal, but it's important 00:18:57.81\00:19:01.84 for us to eat low on the food chain to avoid some 00:19:01.87\00:19:04.99 of those and that's fruits and vegetables, 00:19:05.02\00:19:08.26 nuts, and grains, you'll get all of your 00:19:08.29\00:19:11.87 anti-oxidants. If you want to make sure 00:19:11.90\00:19:14.76 you're getting the full spectrum, you want to go 00:19:14.79\00:19:18.09 for the colors. You want the deep reds, 00:19:18.12\00:19:22.33 you want the greens, those living greens, 00:19:22.36\00:19:26.42 you want the yellows, they're very important. 00:19:26.45\00:19:29.63 You want different types at different seasons, 00:19:29.66\00:19:33.90 and you'll get the full flavor and you'll get 00:19:33.93\00:19:38.12 all of the anti-oxidants and vitamins you need. 00:19:38.15\00:19:40.96 You don't have to think about, what did I, 00:19:40.99\00:19:43.81 what am I gonna do with my vitamin A, 00:19:43.84\00:19:45.53 if you're getting the deep green and yellow. 00:19:45.56\00:19:48.01 You don't need to think about vitamin E, 00:19:48.04\00:19:50.38 if you're getting seeds and nuts. 00:19:50.41\00:19:52.77 It's not a problem; you don't need to 00:19:52.80\00:19:56.05 think about. Well, am I, am I getting enough 00:19:56.08\00:19:57.94 vitamin C to stop my colds. You know, 00:19:57.97\00:20:01.17 the good thing about vitamin C is it; 00:20:01.20\00:20:02.97 you don't get it toxic very easily on it because 00:20:03.00\00:20:06.15 if you take it and don't need it, 00:20:06.18\00:20:08.54 it's excreted in the urine. Many of these are 00:20:08.57\00:20:12.05 you know, you might say that it's wonderful 00:20:12.08\00:20:14.83 all the vitamins we're taking in this country. 00:20:14.86\00:20:17.09 We have the most vitamin rich sewers in the world. 00:20:17.12\00:20:19.74 There are many parents who out of concern 00:20:22.09\00:20:26.69 for their children, give their children vitamins 00:20:26.72\00:20:29.48 and they usually wash it down 00:20:29.51\00:20:30.60 with a glass of juice. What should parents 00:20:30.63\00:20:33.86 think about as it relates to, to vitamin 00:20:33.89\00:20:36.27 supplementation? I don't think parents should 00:20:36.30\00:20:38.69 supplement vitamins. I think they should give 00:20:38.72\00:20:42.03 their children good food. Good food is the 00:20:42.06\00:20:45.58 best supplement there is, as far known 00:20:45.61\00:20:48.01 it is the best. You're, that's what 00:20:48.04\00:20:50.56 the studies show, if you get it in your food, 00:20:50.59\00:20:53.35 lower cancer risk, lower heart disease risk, 00:20:53.38\00:20:56.73 lower stroke risk, lower infection risk, 00:20:56.76\00:20:59.49 if you get it in the bottle you maybe 00:20:59.52\00:21:01.91 harming yourself. That's not only true 00:21:01.94\00:21:04.50 with the vitamins; it's also true with iron. 00:21:04.53\00:21:07.25 You know you hear a lot about anti-oxidants, 00:21:07.28\00:21:10.58 do you know that iron is the most potent 00:21:10.61\00:21:13.88 pro-oxidant in your body. Wow! Oh! You need iron, 00:21:13.91\00:21:17.88 you need it, but too much iron will cause problems. 00:21:17.91\00:21:24.07 It will increase cancer rates; it will increase 00:21:24.10\00:21:29.12 your problems with heart disease. In fact, 00:21:29.15\00:21:33.22 some people think and I think wisely so, 00:21:33.25\00:21:36.10 that one of the main reasons why women 00:21:36.13\00:21:38.47 don't have the rates of heart disease 00:21:38.50\00:21:40.24 that men do, is because they're menstruating 00:21:40.27\00:21:43.20 every month and they're keeping their iron 00:21:43.23\00:21:45.71 stores low. As soon as that stops, 00:21:45.74\00:21:48.60 women's rate of heart disease quickly catches 00:21:48.63\00:21:51.95 men, just from too much iron. 00:21:51.98\00:21:54.42 Now, iron deficiency isn't good either, 00:21:54.45\00:21:57.27 but if you're not iron deficient, 00:21:57.30\00:22:00.35 if your hemoglobin and hematocrit are normal, 00:22:00.38\00:22:03.02 please don't supplement iron. 00:22:03.05\00:22:05.08 You won't be helping yourself, 00:22:05.11\00:22:07.07 you'll be hurting yourself. There's a whole 00:22:07.10\00:22:09.80 disease category of iron overload. 00:22:09.83\00:22:13.53 Hemochromatosis, it's not that uncommon 00:22:13.56\00:22:16.87 and it's getting to be a, a problem. 00:22:16.90\00:22:19.81 Hemochromatosis, increase risk of heart disease, 00:22:19.84\00:22:23.38 increase risk of cancer, increase risk 00:22:23.41\00:22:26.37 of diabetes, increase risk of liver problems 00:22:26.40\00:22:29.84 all from iron overload, don't supplement iron, 00:22:29.87\00:22:33.70 if you are going to take a multi-vitamin 00:22:33.73\00:22:35.93 make sure it doesn't have iron. 00:22:35.96\00:22:38.06 Unless, you're iron deficient, 00:22:38.09\00:22:41.28 you have a low amount of hemoglobin 00:22:41.31\00:22:44.67 or a low hematocrit and that can be very 00:22:44.70\00:22:47.95 easily tested. So, we should instead of 00:22:47.98\00:22:52.25 thinking about which pill to take, 00:22:52.28\00:22:54.86 we should think about the colors of the rainbow. 00:22:54.89\00:22:56.85 That's right. You know, I often say, 00:22:56.88\00:22:59.00 if you're an artist, you like a palate 00:22:59.03\00:23:02.32 with many colors on it, when you're painting 00:23:02.35\00:23:05.20 your picture and think of the artist when you eat, 00:23:05.23\00:23:08.37 you want many colors to pass your palate, 00:23:08.40\00:23:11.63 if you do you'll get plenty of anti-oxidants. 00:23:11.66\00:23:15.13 Some people ask well what foods are best? 00:23:15.16\00:23:18.06 What foods are richest in anti-oxidants? 00:23:18.09\00:23:20.78 Well, in fresh fruit, fruits, the one that top 00:23:20.81\00:23:24.99 the list are the ones I like the most 00:23:25.02\00:23:26.77 in the fruits. It's blueberries 00:23:26.80\00:23:30.21 and strawberries. They top the list 00:23:30.24\00:23:32.08 for fresh fruits, if you go to dry, 00:23:32.11\00:23:34.77 raisins are very high and prunes are very high in 00:23:34.80\00:23:39.48 anti-oxidants. They're also high in vitamins 00:23:39.51\00:23:42.22 of course. In the vegetables it's kale 00:23:42.25\00:23:45.26 and then you go to broccoli, you pick up 00:23:45.29\00:23:48.84 tomatoes, you pick up peppers, 00:23:48.87\00:23:50.68 you pick up collard greens, 00:23:50.71\00:23:52.86 all the green leafy vegetables and the, 00:23:52.89\00:23:56.68 and the vegetables with rich colors 00:23:56.71\00:23:58.80 are where you get the anti-oxidants from. 00:23:58.83\00:24:01.11 And they're the ones that will reduce 00:24:01.14\00:24:03.40 your risk of chronic disease. 00:24:03.43\00:24:05.11 So, if we eat our food the way the good Lord 00:24:05.14\00:24:08.78 grew it then perhaps we'd be better off 00:24:08.81\00:24:11.42 than trying to get nutrition from a bottle. 00:24:11.45\00:24:13.51 You know, you'll never find health in a bottle, 00:24:13.54\00:24:17.00 you will never find it. You'll find health 00:24:17.03\00:24:20.40 in making wise choices. And making decisions 00:24:20.43\00:24:24.34 and following through with them. 00:24:24.37\00:24:26.28 Sometimes we get the idea that you know, 00:24:26.31\00:24:30.01 there's just something missing in your 00:24:30.04\00:24:32.02 and in my diet. You know, that is true, 00:24:32.05\00:24:34.61 there is something missing in your diet 00:24:34.64\00:24:36.97 and in mine, but I don't think 00:24:37.00\00:24:38.97 we can find it here. It left many years ago 00:24:39.00\00:24:42.77 and that, guess what? The tree of life. 00:24:42.80\00:24:46.12 I think somewhere in our collective consciousness, 00:24:46.15\00:24:49.93 if you will we know that there is a, a missing 00:24:49.96\00:24:53.90 part in our lives. The tree of life isn't here, 00:24:53.93\00:24:57.99 but we do have something that is available 00:24:58.95\00:25:02.03 and Jesus told us what that is? 00:25:02.06\00:25:04.46 He said, if you want life you must eat my flesh 00:25:04.49\00:25:09.67 and drink my blood, you must dwell in me 00:25:09.70\00:25:13.92 and I in you, if you want eternal life 00:25:13.95\00:25:17.16 and you know sometimes I think 00:25:17.19\00:25:18.78 this desire to find that elixir of life 00:25:18.81\00:25:22.64 really what we're doing is, we are looking 00:25:22.67\00:25:28.38 for life in the wrong place. And if we would 00:25:28.41\00:25:32.36 focus on Jesus and the life he gives. 00:25:32.39\00:25:35.08 And the food he's given us, read it 00:25:35.11\00:25:38.10 right there in Genesis, you'll find it. 00:25:38.13\00:25:40.26 And he gave them and it tells you just 00:25:40.29\00:25:43.97 what to eat right there in Genesis. 00:25:44.00\00:25:46.16 And if we follow that and look for life 00:25:46.19\00:25:49.46 in our Lord and savior, then we will have 00:25:49.49\00:25:54.50 not only abundant life here. 00:25:54.53\00:25:56.63 Remember what he said, I came to give them life 00:25:56.66\00:25:59.62 and to give it more abundantly. 00:25:59.65\00:26:02.97 We'll have life here and we'll have eternal life. 00:26:03.00\00:26:06.86 Instead of looking in a bottle and counting 00:26:06.89\00:26:09.33 our pills and spent you know, how much we spend 00:26:09.36\00:26:12.53 in this country on vitamins and 00:26:12.56\00:26:14.19 vitamin supplementation. That's a lot. Billions, 00:26:14.22\00:26:17.32 three or four billion dollars we spend, 00:26:17.35\00:26:20.58 and we are helping ourselves? No. 00:26:20.61\00:26:22.96 We're hurting ourselves. We are actually worsening 00:26:22.99\00:26:27.65 our health instead of improving it. 00:26:27.68\00:26:30.51 Please, don't supplement any Beta-carotene 00:26:30.54\00:26:34.60 or vitamin A, don't do it, don't 00:26:34.63\00:26:37.62 supplement vitamin E, don't do it, 00:26:37.65\00:26:39.98 it raises your risk of disease. Vitamin C 00:26:40.01\00:26:43.18 it's counted as wonderful. We excrete 00:26:43.21\00:26:45.20 a lot of it, but it, if you supplement 00:26:45.23\00:26:47.51 vitamin C there is some evidence that 00:26:47.54\00:26:49.40 you will increase your risk for heart disease. 00:26:49.43\00:26:50.40 Macular degeneration, everyone's taking 00:26:51.16\00:26:54.66 vitamins for this. Three fruits a day will reduce 00:26:54.69\00:26:58.86 your risk of macular degeneration markedly. 00:26:58.89\00:27:02.33 Go for the fruits, go for the vegetables 00:27:02.36\00:27:05.61 and most importantly Jesus is the 00:27:05.64\00:27:10.05 word of life; he is our tree of life here. 00:27:10.08\00:27:14.17 And if we focus on him rather than 00:27:14.20\00:27:17.22 on a bottle ah! Then we'll have life, 00:27:17.25\00:27:21.26 life not only now, but forever. 00:27:21.29\00:27:25.87 So, it seems that God grew our food perfectly. 00:27:27.03\00:27:30.49 I think he did. You know, it's unlikely that 00:27:30.52\00:27:35.04 he would design us and give a poor fuel. 00:27:35.07\00:27:38.21 And, if we follow his instruction manual. 00:27:38.24\00:27:41.61 I think our bodies will run quite well. 00:27:41.64\00:27:44.68 It's obvious that we are fearfully 00:27:46.06\00:27:48.19 and wonderfully made and our food 00:27:48.22\00:27:50.26 was made well too. So, if we follow 00:27:50.29\00:27:54.77 the instruction we've been given then perhaps 00:27:54.80\00:27:57.15 we can spent less money on supplements 00:27:57.18\00:27:58.94 and more attention on, on eating the rich foods 00:27:58.97\00:28:01.80 that Christ has so abundantly 00:28:01.83\00:28:03.49 blessed us with. Well, thank you Dr. Howe, 00:28:03.52\00:28:05.19 and thank you audience for joining us today. 00:28:05.22\00:28:07.28