The following
program presents principles
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designed to promote
good health and is not
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intended to take the
place of personalized
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professional care.
The opinions and ideas
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expressed are
those of the speaker.
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Viewers are
encouraged to draw their own
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conclusions about the
information presented.
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The psalmist David
says praise God for
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I'm fearfully
and wonderfully made.
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What a great Psalm to have.
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I wanna welcome you
to Wonderfully Made.
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I'm Doctor Jim
Marcum and I want to
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thank you so much
for inviting us into
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your home to be with you,
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to listen to the health message.
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Today we have an
interesting topic.
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I'm a cardiologist;
normally I don't talk
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about fields outside
of cardiology but today
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we're gonna talk
about integrative medicine.
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I find this very
fascinating and it's
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growing by leaps and
bounds across America.
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And here with us to discuss
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it is Mr. Daniel
Miller. And I wanna thank you
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for joining this Dan.
Thank you Jim. Listen,
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while you're here
today? Tell me little bit about
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Heartwise Ministries.
What's that all about?
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Heartwise Ministries is
a ministry that has been
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started as a result
of the books that you
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have been writing.
It was founded in 2005.
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And it's based on
truth, biblical principles of
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truth, biblical
principles of health,
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so and so forth,
truth, love and then healing.
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Heartwise Ministries is
a ministry that approaches
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people with the
different thought process, okay.
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One that does away with
say guilt, so and so forth.
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So it starts
with truth, correct,
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and truth leads to
love. Now I see a lot of
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people talking
about love in this world.
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Okay but you know
talking about it and showing
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love is two, two
different things,
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two different readings, correct.
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One of my
definitions of love is putting
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someone else's
interest about yourself, right.
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Okay, and of course
the opposite of love
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we see is selfishness, correct.
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And we see a lot of
that. Now part of the
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truth is not
believing lies, correct.
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You know, and I see that
all the time in healthcare.
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You know some people
believe in a low fat,
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high fat will
work better for you,
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or take this
vitamin or this herb will do
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better than you,
right. And I also see that
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damaging the body
because they believe
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for instance if
you believe that a
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cigarette was
gonna get you better.
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If you really believe
that, that would damage you,
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correct, 'cause of
course the cigarette's gonna
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damage you. Well
you can also take these,
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the health principles
into the spiritual world,
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right. Now can you
imagine if you believed,
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for instance if
you believe that you
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had to earn
your way into heaven.
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That was a perfect
example and it damages,
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your burnt. You
know, you thought processes
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and that's exactly
what Heartwise Ministries
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is trying to get across,
a ministry that approaches
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things from a very
basic simple direction.
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And that's, I think
God wanted our healthcare
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to be simple,
right. And there is more to
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healing than just
healing a physical body.
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You know healing the
spiritual self is what's
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happening in the
mind. With that in mind
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Heartwise Ministries
gathers questions that
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people might have
from all around the world.
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And if you might
happen to have a question,
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make sure you get
your questions into us.
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We're now on the web at
heartwiseministries.org.
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www.heartwis eministries.org.
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you can send your
questions and what we do
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is we group them around topics
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and we try to
answer these questions
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from a biblical perspective.
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Some people around the
world don't have anyone
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with healthcare
knowledge or background
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to go to, to give them
a biblical perspective.
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Very good, that's
very good, yes. Okay.
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Let's start with
the first question.
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Okay, the first question is from
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Anne in Tampa, Florida. Okay.
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I listen to the radio a lot,
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especially on Sundays.
I listen to Deborah Ray
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and Robert Scott Bell,
okay. I usually listen,
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it says loosely listen, okay.
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They talk about
integrative medicine.
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This is very
interesting. I'm not sure I know
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what this is, what
is your take on this?
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Okay, that is a
great question and because
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many people now are
using integrative medicine
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to take care of themselves.
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Another word for it
is sometimes they call it
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complimentary
medicine or some people
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call it alternative medicine.
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But I'm not sure that
it really is alternative
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medicine Dan. And
let me sort of explain
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to Anne what my
take is on it? Years ago
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when someone was
sick, and the doctor there
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used to sort of
minister to all their needs.
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Their physical needs,
their spiritual needs,
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or emotional needs,
usually use all sorts of
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tricks of the trade,
right. And there wasn't
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as many trick
"tricks" as a trade as
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there is now,
right. Now I was trained in
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traditional medicine
where we use a lot of
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pharmaceuticals,
and unfortunately many
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are just trained
in that discipline.
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But if you think
about pharmaceuticals there
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and pharmaceuticals
change the chemical environment
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in their body. Now
there's other ways that
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can also change the
chemical environment
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in the body. Now
let's think, can you think
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of one that would
change the chemistry
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of the body Dan. I
would think positive
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thought process.
Exactly, your thought,
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your mental
outlook. Your mind is a very
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powerful tool for
you. Right, and one
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example of that is
the placebo effect,
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correct. You know
if you believe you're
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gonna get better, one
in four to five will get
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better. That's pretty
high percentage actually.
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Yeah, and that's a
lot of this is you know
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it might be that
the medicine is working,
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it's that belief
that you're being healed
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that's working. Correct,
right. Similarly not only
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placebo effects but
we've also shown that
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in patients that
healing touches occur.
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Whether you know if I
touch you and you believe
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in me and I say Dan
you're gonna get better.
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This is not a problem,
it's gonna be gone tomorrow,
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right. There is a powerful
belief just to have that
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reassurance that all of a sudden
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that symptom is gone.
Being told by somebody
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that knows what
they're talking about
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that is very powerful.
For instance I deal with
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a lot of people with
chest pain, and sometimes
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I can come to them
and I know beyond a shadow
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of a doubt that this
chest pain is not coming
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from the heart. I know
it's coming from stress.
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But by doing a test
or proving it to them
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you know I can say I
give them that assurance.
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This you know you are
assured, your chemistry
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gets better when you
have assurance, right.
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Now so we talked, you
know other ways you can
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change your
chemistry, you know getting back
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to that, you can change
your chemistry by exercise,
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correct. The food you
eat. How well you rest.
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Your spiritual status.
I think a lot of things
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even down to the
relationships that
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you have with friends, exactly
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family and so and so
forth, I think they have
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major impact on how
you feel in your life.
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So all of that you
know comprises health.
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So anything that
changes your chemistry
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can be effective by
this integrative medicine.
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For instance the
herbs you know integrative
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medicine uses a lot
of herbs in their use.
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But herbs are very
similar to medicine,
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they change the
chemical environment, correct.
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Some people out
there are using magnets
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which I don't
believe, I don't think that
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changes your
chemical environment.
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They've done studies on
that? Yes, they have done
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studies on the magnets.
The studies have not shown
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that they have any
proven clinical benefit
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other than maybe a
placebo benefit, right.
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What are other
things acupressure,
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chiropractor you
know manipulating bones,
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correct, massage
for instance you know if
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you know the other
day you told me you had
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a kink in your shoulder,
okay. When it's massaged,
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the body releases
chemicals that help
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you now for
instance if someone hurt your
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arm what's the
first thing you do.
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You rub, rub it, when
you rub it you releases,
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natural healing substances.
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So that's the
very important, right.
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A lot of people
don't realize that you can
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change your
chemistry just by laughing.
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You know if you
get a good belly laugh.
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What does that cause?
It releases endorphins,
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okay. You'll get a lot
of endorphins so I tell
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people to just;
you know go around
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laughing
especially if you're in pain.
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How do endorphins
work? Endorphins are the
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natural pain killers
that the body produces.
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It's sort of the
natural stress hormone.
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That's basically what
we're talking about it.
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Yes, yeah is
exactly, so in my take on
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integrative or
complementary medicine and
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would be anything
that changes the body's
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chemical from whatever means
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is seen as integrative medicine.
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I'm putting a bunch of
these modalities together,
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we've got this
integrative approach and I think
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this is the best
way if you can rule out
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what's true and
what's not true, correct.
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So I have this problem
of you know you see all
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these ads on the paper
Dan, I met the Millvina
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you know this is
guy touting you know
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high clarets, have
you heard that one, yeah.
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What is that all
about? Well I think we got a
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question that
will approach that.
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Well we'll talk about.
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We may be hearing a little bit.
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I'm not sure if I
wanna go there right now.
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Well I don't wanna go
but the point is your hear
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about these things.
Exactly, let me ask you
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this, what are some of
the negative and the positive
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outcomes of integrative
medicine? Well some of the
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positive outcomes is
it merges the truth in a
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lot of different worlds, right.
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Okay for instance, if
you can accomplish the
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same thing without
taking any medication
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with the side
effects. Let's say you can
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lower your blood
pressure and cut your
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stress down by
regular exercise and proper
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rest and drink enough
water wouldn't that be
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better than taking a
blood pressure medicine, yes.
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Well that could be
an integrative approach,
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and how about for
chronic back pain?
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If you can see a
chiropractor that could
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manipulate certain
ways and release medications
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or deep massage
that could you know help
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the pain that way,
wouldn't that might be
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better than a
pain medication, right.
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It gets to the
core of the problem.
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But likewise integrative
medicine I think also has
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to work on
someone's spiritual side.
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I believe so. Because
you know you talked about
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all those things
that damage, so I think
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that in knowing the
truth and that's what
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I've done looked at, well
how do you know the truth?
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Well I go back, you
know I try to go back in all
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these decisions
go back to the Bible,
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the real source of
truth. And prayer and the
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Holy Spirit helping
you through your problems.
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Exactly, because you
know, I admit the more
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you learn, the less you know.
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And I feel like as
all these areas I know
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so much less now than I used to,
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I almost feel humbled.
And the only way I can do
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it is you know look at the data
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that's available,
right. Pray about it, ask about
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what the truth
and let God really
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lead me in love,
right. But you know that's
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one thing that I think
is a universal healing,
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that is the word
love. You know God is love
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I mean. Of
course yes biblically,
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God is a
principle. You know gives us,
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gives you that
assurance and I think that's
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a healing force
in itself, right.
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But those are all the
components and it makes up
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integrative
medicine and more but I think
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we're gonna hear so
much more about this because
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I think people want to get
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at the cause of their diseases.
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They're tired of
taking pills, they're tired of
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having procedures that they
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want to be whole again.
And this is an alternative
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way to do that. Right,
and I think you're gonna
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hear a lot more
about this over the next
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couple of years.
Right, and let's go to,
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to the next
question. This is from Allen
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in England, okay.
Allen says my home is in
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England, in London.
My cholesterol level
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has been high for
several years, okay.
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I have taken
numerous medications but they
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mess up my liver function.
Are there ways to lower
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cholesterol other
than medication? Okay.
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I guess my question
to you right after that
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would be what's cholesterol,
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and how does that effect us,
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how would it effect
us? That's good, okay.
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Well cholesterol is
a substance that's made
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up of lipids or
fats, and unfortunately in
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the last several
years our diet has changed
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to the point where
we're taking in too much fat.
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You know I talk
about fast food but now
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it should be
called fat food, right.
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You know 80
million people are eating
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this stuff everyday.
And we don't exercise
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as much to burn off
our fats, so the fats have
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to go somewhere. I
know a fellow the other day
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that I bumped
into and I says, well
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how do you eat. And he
says well you know I eat,
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he ate at Hardee's some
biscuits and gravy, right.
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At lunch he has a
burger, some hamburgers,
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at night he didn't get
off work till about 8'o clock
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at night. So he had
his big meal at night.
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You know heavy
stuff, right, right.
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And usually had some
ice cream with the meal
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at night and
then he went to bed.
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Is this something
that you recommend? No. No.
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I don't recommend that stuff.
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But anyway if you think
about, now he didn't know
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about it, bless
his heart, yeah, yeah.
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And I was trying
to you know give him a
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glimmer of truth, but if
you do this over and over,
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this cholesterol or fats have to
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be stored somewhere.
Well unfortunately it's
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being stored in the
arteries of the heart
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which can cause
cardiovascular disease,
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in the artery of the
necks; it could cause all
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sorts of problems.
Not to mention that
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if you take this
caloric inputs sooner or later
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you're gonna be
obese, right. So my approach
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to him was, this is
what cholesterol does,
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it clogs up your
system. So now Allen's question
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was is there ways to
lower his cholesterol
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without taking a
medication, correct.
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Now most of the
cholesterol medicines
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out there are called
Statins, okay and they
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do work in the enzyme
systems in the liver and
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they can cause abnormalities
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in the liver function.
So that's why if you're on
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a Statin, you usually
have your liver checked
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every so often, right,
on depending what that is.
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Well he can't take it safely
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'cause it hurts his liver.
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Now other things can
bring down cholesterol nicely.
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And this is where
you know you sort of
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integrate different
approaches. Correct,
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such as
exercise. Do you ever view
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exercise as a medication?
I believe very possibly.
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Yeah. I mean
physiologically exercise
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does a number of
good things for the body.
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It lowers blood
pressure; it loses weight,
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cuts your stress
level, so exercise
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would be treated as
a medication. Right,
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eating correctly, that's
kind of a no brainer there.
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Well but that's
hard in our society.
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Well yes, we have. I
don't know what they eat
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in London, England
but I'm sure that their
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diet is not that dissimilar from
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what we're eating here, right.
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And there are some
other natural herbs.
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Let me talk about
couple of those, okay.
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A lot of people don't
know that soy products,
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soy products can
lower your cholesterol,
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okay soy products.
Such as soy milk, soy milk,
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soy beans, soy
butter, anything that's made
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of soy that can
lower, okay. There ae these
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substances in India,
they do something for
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ear called a Guggul gum, right.
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It's Guggul and that
helps lower cholesterol there.
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Now there is one
that you hear a lot about
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call red yeast rice.
That lowers cholesterol but
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it has the same
compound that our statins have
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in it, right. So it
can also affect your liver.
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So Allen that you would probably
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one he wouldn't want to take.
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Right, now let me ask you this.
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Taking these
natural products along with
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medications that
he is already on,
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would that cause
any conflict? It could,
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it could because
you know remember
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upfront we said all of
these things you put in
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your body from
whatever stimulus you can,
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they can always
change your chemistry.
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So if you change
your chemistry with the
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medication, change
it with herbs, sometimes
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they could both
work together and harm
00:15:20.89\00:15:22.74
you even more, right.
So I do these herbs as
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similar to
prescription medications.
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So he has got to be
very careful about what he
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might use as,
that you mentioned that
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as an alternative.
Yeah because some of these
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can be very
dangerous, but you know,
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we know that exercise
is not gonna hurt, no.
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We know that soy
products on your food.
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And you know there are
some nuts that are been
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down very protective,
specifically the two that
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I really highly
promote is walnuts
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and almonds,
correct. And in some studies
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they have lowered
the chance of having a
00:15:48.76\00:15:50.28
heart attack by up to
50 percent. That's a huge.
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You know but you
don't hear as much
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about eating nuts.
You know you hear about
00:15:54.94\00:15:56.74
taking a statin
which lowers it too, right.
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But you know, well the
statin is a easy way to go.
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Right, but now think
about this, diet for years
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changes the body's chemistry.
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Now we talked about
soy lowering cholesterol,
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nuts helping you,
water is a tremendous thing
00:16:08.81\00:16:11.84
to take too for treatment
of disease right, right.
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Okay, let's move to next one.
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Okay this next
question comes from
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Carter in
Tennessee. Does Coenzyme Q10
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make you heart
stronger? My grandma told me
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I should be taking this,
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I don't have heart problems.
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My grandma also says
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I should take tons of vitamins.
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He says help. Oh you
know. What is Coenzyme Q10?
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Oh Coenzyme Q10 is a
substance that's naturally
00:16:38.80\00:16:41.81
released by the body
that helps muscle function.
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When should it be
used? Well if there is a
00:16:45.88\00:16:47.95
deficiency in
Coenzyme Q10 it uses.
00:16:47.96\00:16:50.61
It's never been
proven to help heart beat
00:16:50.62\00:16:52.78
stronger but a
lot of people think
00:16:52.79\00:16:54.24
it might work,
right. And that's what
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interesting about
integrative medicine Dan
00:16:55.78\00:16:58.04
is most of the
studies have never been done,
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because there is no one
who will fund the study,
00:17:01.26\00:17:03.74
to study whether
this therapy works better
00:17:03.75\00:17:05.81
than this therapy
and actually see how the
00:17:05.82\00:17:07.63
interactions occur,
right. But back now I do
00:17:07.64\00:17:10.38
use Coenzyme Q10 sometimes.
00:17:10.39\00:17:12.54
For instance if I had
a person that had high
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cholesterol and they
started having muscle
00:17:14.79\00:17:17.30
soreness, I might give
him Coenzyme Q10, right.
00:17:17.31\00:17:20.11
Some athletes that
have muscle soreness deplete
00:17:20.36\00:17:23.29
Coenzyme Q10 they
benefit from it, correct.
00:17:23.30\00:17:25.65
If a person did
have a weak heart and
00:17:25.66\00:17:27.54
there was nothing
else to do, I don't think
00:17:27.55\00:17:29.42
it would hurt any
and if few studies
00:17:29.43\00:17:31.18
have suggested that
it might do some good.
00:17:31.19\00:17:33.25
Now why would an
athlete deplete that?
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Well because they
use up their muscle.
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You know you just,
they exercise all something
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I don't do but they
exercise all the time
00:17:40.68\00:17:42.65
they get soreness,
right. You know soreness
00:17:42.66\00:17:44.73
in their muscles
that's they are tearing
00:17:44.74\00:17:46.08
their muscles down,
right. But now getting back
00:17:46.09\00:17:48.90
to her question
about, tons of vitamins
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I mean lots of people take
00:17:51.26\00:17:53.21
tons of vitamins now.
00:17:53.22\00:17:54.59
And what I've
been telling people is,
00:17:55.12\00:17:56.95
you know there's lot
of supplements out there
00:17:56.96\00:17:59.01
for vitamins but
God made that if you eat
00:17:59.02\00:18:01.17
fresh fruits, grains.
You get balanced diet.
00:18:01.18\00:18:03.65
Right with the
wide variety of colors,
00:18:03.66\00:18:05.84
right, you get all of
the nutrients that you need.
00:18:05.85\00:18:08.70
Now conversely, a lot of
people don't eat that way.
00:18:08.71\00:18:11.53
Right, well it's very difficult.
00:18:11.54\00:18:12.78
And in those people
that don't eat that way
00:18:13.06\00:18:14.79
I do think they
benefit from taking
00:18:14.80\00:18:16.88
vitamin supplements, right.
00:18:16.89\00:18:18.36
Now lot of people
think though that you
00:18:18.62\00:18:20.50
are better absorbed if
you eat your vitamins, right.
00:18:20.51\00:18:23.62
Let me ask you
this, yeah. Is it possible
00:18:23.90\00:18:26.20
that there are other
supplements out there
00:18:26.21\00:18:28.42
that do make the
heart stronger also.
00:18:28.43\00:18:29.86
Oh yeah, there are
supplements out there
00:18:29.87\00:18:31.70
some we know
about, some that we don't
00:18:31.71\00:18:33.17
know about, correct.
That are out there that
00:18:33.18\00:18:35.26
make the heart
stronger in different
00:18:35.27\00:18:37.31
types of ways, correct.
00:18:37.32\00:18:38.46
Okay that was a good
question from Carter.
00:18:38.81\00:18:41.67
You know another side comment,
00:18:41.68\00:18:44.84
there was a
generations differ I believe
00:18:44.85\00:18:48.01
on vitamin intake. Oh
yeah. I know the older
00:18:48.75\00:18:51.44
generation seem
to push vitamins on
00:18:51.45\00:18:53.48
and the newer
generation seem to go for the
00:18:53.49\00:18:56.38
medication. But
you know the newer
00:18:56.39\00:18:57.97
generation
probably eats worse than the
00:18:57.98\00:18:59.75
older generation now, correct.
00:18:59.76\00:19:01.05
You know they
don't use much fruit,
00:19:01.06\00:19:02.24
fresh vegetables,
salads that get all the
00:19:02.25\00:19:04.99
vitamins that you need, right.
00:19:05.00\00:19:06.94
Okay, next question.
Over the last few years
00:19:07.94\00:19:11.17
my blood pressure
has been running high.
00:19:11.18\00:19:13.15
I took a
prescription medication but it
00:19:13.73\00:19:15.74
made me nauseated
and weak. Are there
00:19:15.75\00:19:18.64
any natural measures
I can take to lower my
00:19:18.65\00:19:21.02
blood pressure? This comes from
00:19:21.03\00:19:23.06
Stephanie in New Zealand.
00:19:23.07\00:19:24.18
That's a great
question Stephanie and I get
00:19:24.47\00:19:27.04
that all the time.
The medicines that you
00:19:27.05\00:19:30.12
take none of them
are free. They all come
00:19:30.13\00:19:32.42
with some
baggage; they all come with
00:19:32.43\00:19:33.92
side effects,
correct. You know it does one
00:19:33.93\00:19:36.66
thing but it alters
your chemistry just we've
00:19:36.67\00:19:38.59
talked about.
Unfortunately when I
00:19:38.60\00:19:40.10
talked to people
about lowering their
00:19:40.11\00:19:41.23
blood pressure
naturally Dan. What do they
00:19:41.24\00:19:43.84
do? Well sometimes
they don't like it.
00:19:43.85\00:19:45.60
For instance the first
thing I like people to do
00:19:45.61\00:19:47.77
is I cut out all
the substances that can
00:19:47.78\00:19:50.05
make you blood
pressure go high, right.
00:19:50.06\00:19:51.88
I ask them if they
smoke, consider not smoking.
00:19:51.89\00:19:54.39
Caffeine raises up
the blood pressure.
00:19:54.75\00:19:56.59
How about stresses in life.
00:19:57.12\00:19:58.36
Stress in life
raises blood pressure,
00:19:58.37\00:20:00.10
salt or sodium content, right.
00:20:00.11\00:20:02.34
And a lot of people say
oh I don't salt my food,
00:20:02.35\00:20:04.26
but they eat a lot of
canned foods, correct,
00:20:04.65\00:20:06.75
packet foods,
processed food, all of them
00:20:06.76\00:20:08.52
have sodium in it. So,
first I say well can you
00:20:08.53\00:20:11.22
exercise do this can
you do the rest first.
00:20:11.23\00:20:13.46
You know
unfortunately most people say
00:20:13.95\00:20:15.79
I don't want to do
that I'd rather take a
00:20:16.09\00:20:17.56
medicine. It's the easy way out.
00:20:17.57\00:20:19.84
Now that's a sad
state, you know and I say
00:20:19.85\00:20:21.64
well you know our bodies weren't
00:20:21.65\00:20:23.73
design to take all
this. They were design
00:20:23.74\00:20:25.83
for this natural
health that God did,
00:20:25.84\00:20:28.22
and we break these laws more
00:20:28.23\00:20:30.75
bad things happen, right.
00:20:30.76\00:20:32.03
So, I try it you know
to meet him with rest,
00:20:32.04\00:20:33.97
and let's pray about
this, why don't we try
00:20:33.98\00:20:35.79
to do a walking
program. You know one of the
00:20:35.80\00:20:37.70
things that causes
high blood pressure
00:20:37.71\00:20:39.93
is a condition
condition call sleep apnea.
00:20:39.94\00:20:42.22
Right and what is sleep
apnea? That is a condition
00:20:42.50\00:20:46.08
where people don't
get enough air at nights,
00:20:46.09\00:20:48.41
like they are going under water.
00:20:48.42\00:20:49.60
And they don't have
enough air they come up usually
00:20:49.85\00:20:51.93
because an
obstruction in the airway.
00:20:51.94\00:20:53.83
So, then begin
tired all the time from
00:20:54.13\00:20:56.82
lack of sleep
causes high blood pressure
00:20:56.83\00:20:59.83
then is what you are
saying? Well I'm saying
00:20:59.84\00:21:01.31
the condition call
sleep apnea because
00:21:01.32\00:21:03.42
your tissues made to
renew at night, right.
00:21:03.43\00:21:05.81
Well when tissues
don't renew at night
00:21:06.17\00:21:08.22
that puts stress on the body.
00:21:08.23\00:21:09.66
The stress hormones
that we talked about
00:21:09.90\00:21:12.42
in other shows, right,
the epinephrine the cortisol,
00:21:12.43\00:21:15.43
all those things
raise blood pressure.
00:21:15.77\00:21:17.63
So, I think any
stress on the body
00:21:17.64\00:21:19.85
can raise blood pressure.
00:21:20.24\00:21:21.21
If I punched right here
your blood pressure go up.
00:21:21.22\00:21:23.95
If you stay awake
for two, three days
00:21:23.96\00:21:25.66
that will put
stress on it, right.
00:21:25.67\00:21:27.07
So, I try to cut back all
those external stress even
00:21:27.08\00:21:30.04
a bad relationship
could raise blood pressure.
00:21:30.05\00:21:31.81
Yeah I can see that happen.
00:21:31.82\00:21:33.01
So, these are
things that I would work on
00:21:33.02\00:21:35.79
naturally first now
is there natural herb
00:21:35.80\00:21:38.46
or anything like that I guess
00:21:38.47\00:21:39.76
that's what she is asking too,
00:21:39.77\00:21:40.92
but if you think about it Dan
00:21:41.17\00:21:42.74
that's the same
as taking a medicine.
00:21:42.75\00:21:44.18
Yeah and then you
run in the same conflict
00:21:44.19\00:21:47.48
that Allen had from England.
00:21:47.49\00:21:49.69
Let me ask you this
would major lifestyle
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changes having effect
on high blood pressure.
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Yeah in major
lifestyle checks would
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help greatly for the good.
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Now one of things I tell people
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do you take a
day of rest, right.
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Do you sleep well at night,
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do you take vacations.
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These could all be
treated for, are you happy
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with your job,
correct. I see the people that
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retire from an
unhappy job situation,
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and their blood
pressure comes right down.
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Right, but what are
some of the things that
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she can do, maybe from
a lifestyle perspectives
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such as reading, or
you know prayer possibly,
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introducing that into
her life and allowing the
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Holy Spirit to
come into her life and
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make changes in
her life from biblical.
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Well now you are
getting at the core problem
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because you are giving
her the you know the power
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through God, to
physically make these changes
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that she does knew to
come back to the truth,
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right that he
designed us to be, right.
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So, I think that as
you know God and how he has
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designed us and how
is to work, if you can
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get back to that
model, you know it's gonna.
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Then allows you to
naturally take care of.
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And it gives you
greater chance of healing
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naturally without
depending on extra.
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Now, do I use
blood pressure medicines?
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Yes I do, but is
it my first choice?
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No it's not, right.
But, that's what integrative
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medicine is using
all these techniques.
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Some people for
instances relaxing music
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can bring the blood
pressure down, right,
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therapeutic massage, correct.
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You know all of these
things can sort of relax
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the body and other you know
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for men it might
be playing golf, yeah.
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But, this is what
integrative medicine
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is all about. For
some people it would.
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Yeah, you don't
want me to play golf.
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No, it doesn't relax
you. You know we miss
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one part of our
question also is she made
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the comment
that her prescription
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medicine made her
nauseated and weak.
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Why would she be
getting sick to her stomach
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because of her
prescription medicine,
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is it too strong a prescription?
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Well remember all
these medicines weren't
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made naturally
for the body, right.
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It might be this is
just upsetting her system,
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the system trying to
throw it off and it says
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no, this is a side
effect and almost every
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medication out
there the side effect
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one of the side
effects is nausea, correct.
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And every
medicine I know almost can
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cause you to be
sick at your stomach.
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That's why if you have to take a
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medicine we try sometimes
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to try to take it
with the meal, right.
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But, now I think
you are understanding,
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and I hope the
audience is understanding
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what this
integrative medicines about.
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It's taking the best
of many different worlds
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looking at the
Bible, different principles.
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Looking at the Bible
and seeing if we can stay
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within God's laws
and God's precepts
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and coming up
with a treatment plan.
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Correct all these natural laws.
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Alright, the next question,
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herbs been
around for years and are
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prefer to many medications.
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What do you think about hawthorn
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for a weak heart, okay.
What is hawthorn anyway?
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Hawthorn is a natural
herb okay that's usually
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a leaf and
especially in Germany they use
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this a lot for weak
hearts and it actually makes
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the heart squeeze
stronger and pump better.
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So, this is a very
known herbal treatment
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in certain countries
and in United States.
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It's actually safer
than some of the medicines
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we use to make the
heart squeeze stronger.
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One of the medicines
we use to use is a lot
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call Digoxin, right.
Well hawthorn in some
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studies is shown it
work just as good as that
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with less toxicities as
it causes less problems.
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So, I think this is
another example that
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in the herbal
realm, but you do have to
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to treat this like medicine.
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This one has
been studied, right.
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And one of the
things that I've been going
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over is this
integrative medicine.
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Well this is an article
that was written in 2005
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that actually is
gone over every study on
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these herbal
supplements, right and actually
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shown which ones
work, which ones don't work.
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So, there are other
supplements then that
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would benefit her
besides the hawthorn.
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Well its according
if its just for the weak
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heart you know hawthorn would.
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Remember we talked
little bit about Coenzyme Q10,
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right. Yeah, well
such ginkgo maybe.
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Well the ginkgo below
but it might help a little
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bit because you
know different ones
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are for different things, okay.
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Like for instance you
know ginkgo and some of
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them might be use
for as it more of a
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stimulant thing
of that, okay, okay.
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But there are also
some bad ones too out there.
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So there is just
either alright, right.
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Alright let's go to
number six, this is from
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Debby in Indiana,
okay. She says I take
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Coumadin because
I had a blood clot
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in my lungs. What
herbs should I avoid.
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Okay Debby excellent question.
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What is Coumadin and
what do they use it for?
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Okay Coumadin is a
blood thinner, okay.
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Some people even have
called it rat poison Dan.
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And it's used to
help prevent clots
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from forming in the body.
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For instance a blood
clot that goes through
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lung is called
pulmonary embolism, alright.
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Remember the
reporter that was in Iraq
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that was in a tank all day.
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Because his legs are
like this, he got pulmonary
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and that's why I'm gonna stretch
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out my legs right now.
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But, you know he got
a blood clot it went to
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his lungs he died
immediately, right.
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So, people have
that it helps breaks up
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the clots, clots
anyone, so people with strokes
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need to take
certain types of Coumadin.
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Well Coumadin is a
blood thinner no one
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likes to use it. I use
it in a condition called
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atrial fibrillation,
okay but Coumadin is
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one now there
are many medications
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that are not
herbs especially that we
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don't want to be using Coumadin.
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There is too many to list.
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You mean use with Coumadin?
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No, we don't to use
them, so any herb you might
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be taking there is
a big list of those
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to look at, okay. To
see which ones might be.
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So the
interaction between the two
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are very
dangerous. Right, so I think
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that this field of
integrative medicine
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is very, very fascinating.
And its continuing to
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grow by leaps and
bounds, it is, it is.
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But, I think as we
learn more about this
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I think the key thing I
like to tell our audience
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today is get back to
the Bible and make sure
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as you ask the Lord
about this treatments
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see if you can read about it.
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Find out as much as
you can, see if it makes
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sense physiologically.
Make sure its not
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harming anything, that
probably is main point.
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And first do you no
harm, correct. Okay,
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I think all this
is very important.
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And as people do
this I think more and more
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people,
physicians are gonna use this
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integrative approach.
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We hope this program
has been useful to you
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and thank you
for joining us today
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for you're fearfully
and wonderfully made.
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