The following program presents principles 00:00:01.98\00:00:03.31 designed to promote good health 00:00:03.32\00:00:04.78 and is not intended to take the place 00:00:05.15\00:00:06.82 of personalized professional care. 00:00:06.83\00:00:08.57 The opinions and ideas expressed are those 00:00:09.17\00:00:11.69 of the speaker. Viewers are encouraged 00:00:11.70\00:00:13.88 to draw their own conclusions 00:00:13.89\00:00:15.16 about the information presented. 00:00:15.17\00:00:16.95 Welcome to our program today. 00:00:35.77\00:00:37.84 We are so pleased that we can be with you. 00:00:37.85\00:00:40.13 We are indeed most wonderfully made. 00:00:40.69\00:00:42.94 As we live in our bodies and we live our lives 00:00:44.31\00:00:48.09 we find that we sometimes have difficulties. 00:00:48.10\00:00:51.52 And today we are going to be talking about 00:00:52.44\00:00:54.27 a difficulty that has affected probably 00:00:54.28\00:00:56.28 four out of five Americans at least 00:00:56.87\00:01:00.22 in their life time. It's a disorder that 00:01:00.23\00:01:03.62 has caused people to expend billions not just 00:01:03.63\00:01:07.07 millions but billions of dollars in health care 00:01:07.11\00:01:10.01 whether they have had to pay that for paying 00:01:10.02\00:01:12.60 medication or to see their physicians to see 00:01:12.61\00:01:15.96 their chiropractors, health care providers, 00:01:15.97\00:01:18.22 physical therapists. Billions of dollars are 00:01:18.50\00:01:21.46 expended on the topic we are going to discuss today. 00:01:21.47\00:01:23.92 It is a pity that we do have to suffer sometime 00:01:25.21\00:01:28.68 from back pain. With me today I have 00:01:28.69\00:01:32.60 Stoy Proctor who is personally acquainted 00:01:32.61\00:01:36.31 with back pain but he has a success story 00:01:36.70\00:01:40.44 to bring to us. And are hoping that as 00:01:40.45\00:01:42.97 we have our discussion and we discuss the ways 00:01:42.98\00:01:46.41 and means to improve and alleviate back pain. 00:01:46.42\00:01:49.37 You will benefit and be able to apply some of 00:01:49.81\00:01:53.55 these lessons in your own life. 00:01:53.56\00:01:55.13 Stoy, I would like to welcome you to the 00:01:55.56\00:01:58.19 program today. Good to be here. 00:01:58.20\00:01:59.18 Thank you. Stoy could you describe back pain? 00:01:59.19\00:02:04.14 I could my own back pain but I will tell 00:02:05.40\00:02:07.36 you if someone who has had it, 00:02:07.37\00:02:08.78 it's a little difficult to explain yet it's 00:02:09.38\00:02:11.68 you know when you have it. 00:02:12.03\00:02:13.42 There is no question about that. 00:02:13.72\00:02:15.27 It's a pain that usually occurs in the lower part 00:02:15.97\00:02:18.80 of the back maybe the lower part of the after 00:02:18.81\00:02:21.47 the ribs and before the legs top of the legs 00:02:21.48\00:02:23.77 in the lumbar section that's the last 00:02:24.22\00:02:26.97 part of the spine. That's where it starts 00:02:26.98\00:02:29.54 hurting and that's the problem but that's 00:02:29.55\00:02:31.78 not where it stops. You maybe, you maybe 00:02:31.79\00:02:34.46 hurting the and the pain maybe extending 00:02:34.47\00:02:37.51 down your legs it makes you like a headache 00:02:37.52\00:02:40.79 feel bad all over. So if you've had it you know 00:02:40.80\00:02:44.42 you've had it and you don't need a definition 00:02:44.43\00:02:46.80 nor description of its pain. But unfortunately 00:02:46.81\00:02:49.99 I found some ways to not only alleviate my pain 00:02:50.35\00:02:54.20 but really almost eliminate it and 00:02:54.65\00:02:58.91 but as a physician Allan I would like to ask 00:03:00.25\00:03:03.01 you that maybe give us a description of the 00:03:03.02\00:03:06.09 lower spine. And what the potential is for 00:03:06.10\00:03:10.64 problems in that particular area as 00:03:12.01\00:03:13.93 we get older especially? Well, you know our 00:03:13.94\00:03:16.53 vertebral column and that's what we name 00:03:16.54\00:03:18.49 this spinal column. The vertebral column 00:03:19.14\00:03:21.95 it carries more than one function. 00:03:22.59\00:03:24.81 First of all it supports our body and gives us 00:03:25.88\00:03:28.92 the ability to walk erect, to balance 00:03:28.93\00:03:32.12 and it so it has to be flexible 00:03:32.55\00:03:34.14 it has to be able to move. 00:03:34.15\00:03:35.31 Secondly, it is a protective canal that 00:03:36.39\00:03:40.29 protects the nerve of the chief spinal cord 00:03:40.30\00:03:43.68 that is running out of the brain and protects 00:03:43.69\00:03:46.40 those nerve cables that come out of the lower 00:03:46.41\00:03:49.80 end of the spinal column, the spinal cord. 00:03:49.81\00:03:53.67 Now because of those two functions sometimes 00:03:54.21\00:03:57.48 you get a problem between the two of them. 00:03:57.90\00:03:59.93 So if we were to take a single vertebrae, 00:04:00.58\00:04:03.30 which is the single bone. And there are many bones, 00:04:03.60\00:04:06.67 seven in the neck, twelve in the thorax, 00:04:06.99\00:04:08.96 five in the lumbar spine. And then as we go down 00:04:08.97\00:04:11.41 to the sacrum we will find five fused bones. 00:04:11.42\00:04:14.05 And the little coccyx which is just protecting 00:04:14.41\00:04:17.77 the lower portion of the pelvis that 00:04:17.78\00:04:19.54 has a fusion of, in a kid we call that the tailbone. 00:04:19.80\00:04:21.69 Yeah the tailbone and that's exactly right, 00:04:21.70\00:04:24.36 it has three bones that are fused together 00:04:24.37\00:04:26.55 usually there. As we look at this spinal cord 00:04:26.56\00:04:29.80 the problems that are classically seen are 00:04:29.81\00:04:33.06 either in the neck or as you have said 00:04:33.07\00:04:35.59 in the lumbosacral area. Now there are two sorts 00:04:35.60\00:04:40.32 of problems between the vertebral bodies 00:04:40.33\00:04:44.57 of the bony supports there are little cushions. 00:04:44.58\00:04:47.80 These cushions contain a little dense nodule 00:04:48.39\00:04:52.35 of cartilage which acts when we run 00:04:52.36\00:04:55.51 or when we jump that's where we will get 00:04:55.52\00:04:57.56 a little flexibility in our spine, little spongy. 00:04:57.57\00:05:00.36 It's held in place by a circular ring of fibrous 00:05:00.86\00:05:04.60 tissue but sometimes it bulges or protrudes 00:05:04.61\00:05:09.54 or as your doctor may say herniates. 00:05:09.55\00:05:12.14 And if it does that and it presses on a nerve that 00:05:12.51\00:05:17.00 is coming from the back side of the 00:05:17.01\00:05:19.98 support column, it will then cause very severe 00:05:20.39\00:05:24.33 pain both locally and radiating. 00:05:24.34\00:05:27.37 So you'll feel the pain in the area that the 00:05:27.38\00:05:30.27 nerve is distributing now that type of pain 00:05:30.28\00:05:33.45 is made worst when you bent forward. 00:05:33.46\00:05:36.09 There is another sort of the pain that people 00:05:38.12\00:05:39.42 can have in their back or another source 00:05:39.43\00:05:41.27 of pain that people can have in their back. 00:05:41.28\00:05:42.72 And that is arthritis, now it's not 00:05:42.73\00:05:46.37 rheumatoid arthritis and we will talk about 00:05:46.74\00:05:49.10 arthritis in a future program. 00:05:49.11\00:05:50.84 But the pain of the osteoarthritis can also be 00:05:51.52\00:05:58.99 appreciated and an individual who bends 00:05:59.00\00:06:01.17 backwards. So when the person who bends 00:06:01.18\00:06:03.43 backwards and gets pain that is usually because 00:06:03.44\00:06:07.21 of the arthritis in the small joints of the 00:06:07.22\00:06:11.08 posterior position and there are many little 00:06:11.09\00:06:13.17 joints there. And on these little surfaces 00:06:13.18\00:06:15.80 they may become roughening or erroneous 00:06:15.81\00:06:18.77 because of wear and tear. And so we find that 00:06:18.78\00:06:22.34 there are two sorts of pains. 00:06:22.35\00:06:23.75 We have the joint pain or the articular pain 00:06:23.76\00:06:26.65 or we have the nerve compression pain 00:06:26.66\00:06:28.94 that comes from the prolapsing of the nucleus. 00:06:29.42\00:06:32.56 So we have two types, two major types of causes 00:06:33.22\00:06:37.34 for this pain. That's right and the back of 00:06:37.35\00:06:41.19 course you know is different in humans from 00:06:41.20\00:06:45.64 other animals, most animals are walking 00:06:45.65\00:06:47.69 on forelimbs, we are walking on two limbs. 00:06:47.70\00:06:50.76 And so we are transmitting the forces 00:06:51.17\00:06:54.15 of the gravity up the spine where of course 00:06:54.16\00:06:58.79 the forces of gravity in an animal are usually 00:06:58.80\00:07:01.76 transmitted across the spine. 00:07:01.77\00:07:03.76 And so some of our problems are related 00:07:04.12\00:07:07.48 to the fact that we do walk erectly 00:07:07.49\00:07:10.34 and we stand tall we hope. So we better 00:07:10.35\00:07:13.61 if we walked on arm for rest. I don't think so, 00:07:13.62\00:07:15.85 no, no, I am not saying that but I am just 00:07:15.86\00:07:17.71 distinguishing the differences between 00:07:18.17\00:07:20.01 as we find in other. The weight, oh the 00:07:20.02\00:07:20.99 gravitational weight. And the forces that 00:07:21.00\00:07:23.88 are applied to the spine. Now there's some other, 00:07:23.89\00:07:27.13 there's some other causes, you have 00:07:27.14\00:07:28.54 mentioned two major causes but there's another 00:07:28.55\00:07:30.69 you know lifestyle causes that might contribute 00:07:31.19\00:07:35.09 to back pain. Like I am thinking of weak muscles. 00:07:35.10\00:07:40.55 Yes. Is that a, is that a problem? 00:07:41.52\00:07:43.83 Well, I think that in a society such as we have 00:07:44.17\00:07:47.42 in North America, very often we live a 00:07:47.43\00:07:50.88 sedentary lifestyle. So sedentary lives. 00:07:50.89\00:07:53.57 And that means that we don't strengthen 00:07:53.58\00:07:56.38 our backs and our exercise is not good. 00:07:56.39\00:07:58.45 Many times we are sitting at a desk I mean 00:07:58.46\00:08:00.52 if you seeing us sitting on the stools 00:08:00.91\00:08:02.95 and then we, you know, we tend to stoop 00:08:02.96\00:08:05.06 a little bit, to slump a little bit. 00:08:05.07\00:08:06.57 I know being a student for I must have studied 00:08:06.99\00:08:09.53 for may be 14-16 years of studying. 00:08:09.54\00:08:11.84 Bent over the desk that tends to make 00:08:12.95\00:08:15.24 you become stooped and your muscles 00:08:15.25\00:08:17.99 don't get the workout that they really need. 00:08:18.52\00:08:21.05 In Africa, when I was in Africa I wouldn't see 00:08:22.28\00:08:25.09 the complaints of back pain nearly as commonly 00:08:25.10\00:08:28.50 because many Africans were very physically 00:08:28.51\00:08:31.96 active and mobile and so there muscles 00:08:32.35\00:08:36.30 were much stronger, and that's very 00:08:36.31\00:08:39.81 important thing. The other thing is 00:08:39.82\00:08:41.45 of course 60% of North Americans are obese. 00:08:41.46\00:08:46.18 And if you have ever watched a pregnant lady, 00:08:46.98\00:08:50.33 I have watched many pregnant ladies being 00:08:50.72\00:08:52.40 an Obstetrician. They would walk into my office 00:08:52.41\00:08:54.96 with what I used to call the proud gate 00:08:54.97\00:08:57.52 of pregnancy. Leaning back a little, 00:08:57.53\00:08:59.95 putting her shoulders back the tummy of course 00:09:00.41\00:09:02.70 is protruding with a gravid uterus, 00:09:02.71\00:09:05.15 they got all the contents of the fluid 00:09:05.16\00:09:06.90 in the placenta, and the baby in there. 00:09:06.91\00:09:08.91 And so they would walk back and they were 00:09:08.92\00:09:10.36 really not proud. But the balance. 00:09:10.37\00:09:12.19 They were getting trying to get the balance. 00:09:12.20\00:09:13.64 They were trying to get balance, now you put 00:09:13.65\00:09:15.23 obesity there, you know if somebody has a big 00:09:15.24\00:09:17.10 beer belly or sometimes it's not a beer belly 00:09:17.11\00:09:20.21 it just sometimes a bread belly you know. 00:09:20.22\00:09:21.98 Or it just sometimes any kind of belly that shows 00:09:22.44\00:09:25.06 they are eating, eating too many of calories. 00:09:25.07\00:09:26.56 Yes, people who are like that they can have 00:09:26.57\00:09:28.79 back pain. Women too can have back pain 00:09:28.80\00:09:30.93 from obesity associated with large breasts 00:09:30.94\00:09:34.64 and they will often get an upper back pain 00:09:35.14\00:09:37.73 or shoulder pain from that. 00:09:38.12\00:09:39.39 So there are many different. 00:09:40.00\00:09:41.27 There are some others too contributing to sports. 00:09:41.70\00:09:43.57 What part of sports play in this type of pain? 00:09:43.58\00:09:48.96 There is a difference between a sport 00:09:49.92\00:09:52.11 in general and exercise in general. 00:09:54.29\00:09:56.92 Of course, you want exercise just to play 00:09:56.93\00:09:58.87 a sport well but many sports are 00:09:58.88\00:10:01.13 competitive sports. And contact sports. 00:10:01.14\00:10:03.26 And contact sports. And really we pay an 00:10:03.27\00:10:07.15 awful price. I saw a young man walking 00:10:07.16\00:10:10.13 through the office just the other day 00:10:10.14\00:10:12.05 and I said to him my goodness have you hurt 00:10:12.06\00:10:13.90 yourself, you got a limp. He said I have had 00:10:13.91\00:10:16.00 a knee replacement but I said. Young man? 00:10:16.01\00:10:18.78 Young man, I said how old are you? 00:10:18.79\00:10:20.31 He said, I am only 45. I said that is dreadful, 00:10:20.32\00:10:23.48 you must have played sports. 00:10:23.49\00:10:24.77 He said yes he played a lot of sport. 00:10:24.78\00:10:27.09 And you the tackling the contact it causes 00:10:27.10\00:10:30.08 damage. And yes injuries sustain to the back. 00:10:30.09\00:10:33.89 In fact, nurses in particular have a lot 00:10:33.90\00:10:37.40 of back problems because they often 00:10:37.41\00:10:39.18 lifting patients, and, so improper lifting. 00:10:39.19\00:10:42.79 Improper lifting, we will talk about that 00:10:42.80\00:10:44.08 little later. We will talk about that little later. 00:10:44.09\00:10:45.34 Now, you know what amaze me as I was preparing 00:10:45.61\00:10:49.08 for this program tobacco, how does tobacco 00:10:49.09\00:10:53.27 play in this? I am not quite sure how tobacco 00:10:53.99\00:10:58.15 plays in this but it does play. I have not a 00:10:58.16\00:11:01.49 slightest doubt that people who smoke have 00:11:01.50\00:11:04.70 worst spectrum. It seems as those the coughing 00:11:04.71\00:11:06.88 maybe throws there back out sometimes. 00:11:07.29\00:11:09.22 Another reason that they maybe have 00:11:09.23\00:11:12.30 it is because of the osteoporosis we know 00:11:12.31\00:11:14.69 that there is a loss of bone in the people 00:11:15.13\00:11:17.45 who smoke. And so it maybe that their bones 00:11:17.46\00:11:20.08 are not as strong but coughing and most 00:11:20.09\00:11:23.12 smokers have a chronic cough seems to 00:11:23.13\00:11:25.55 exacerbate the back pain. Anything to do with 00:11:25.56\00:11:28.32 lack of circulation because tobacco 00:11:28.33\00:11:30.03 constricts, restricts circulation? 00:11:30.04\00:11:32.35 Well, of course once imagination can go wildest 00:11:32.36\00:11:34.71 to what it could be but I really don't matter. 00:11:34.72\00:11:36.57 Anyway we just know that appear that's one thing 00:11:36.58\00:11:39.22 you shouldn't be doing if you want to avoid 00:11:39.23\00:11:41.37 the back pain. Now alright let's suppose a person 00:11:41.38\00:11:45.36 has back pain when do I know to go 00:11:45.37\00:11:49.56 see my physician? Most back pain that 00:11:49.57\00:11:54.59 is of significance is either severe enough 00:11:54.60\00:11:58.49 or chronic enough that you begin to say you 00:11:58.50\00:12:01.68 wanna do it. I mean just think about yourself 00:12:01.69\00:12:03.30 you had back pain. I actually stood it 00:12:03.31\00:12:06.70 as long as I could. Yes and what did you do? 00:12:06.71\00:12:08.80 And after few days then I said look it's not 00:12:08.81\00:12:10.72 getting any better so I have got to do 00:12:10.73\00:12:12.87 something so I want to see a doctor. 00:12:12.88\00:12:14.27 And I believe you gave him an ultimatum. 00:12:14.68\00:12:16.37 Well, that was my second doctor, oh I see. 00:12:16.78\00:12:19.18 The first doctor was a regular physician, 00:12:19.19\00:12:21.59 and that's what can you do for me? 00:12:21.60\00:12:23.28 Well you use some painkiller. 00:12:23.29\00:12:24.36 Well I tried that for a few days and that 00:12:24.92\00:12:27.02 didn't help and mean it you know 00:12:27.03\00:12:28.40 it helped reliving the pain but as soon as the, 00:12:28.41\00:12:30.88 wore off I still had the problem yet, 00:12:31.42\00:12:33.34 I said well I have heard of doctors of osteopathy. 00:12:33.35\00:12:37.76 That they I heard that they may, 00:12:37.77\00:12:39.17 I was a little concerned about a chiropractic 00:12:39.18\00:12:41.94 so I said well I was to go to the doctor 00:12:42.34\00:12:43.86 of osteopathy and see what they will say. 00:12:43.87\00:12:46.88 And this was not my first episode I had you know 00:12:47.29\00:12:50.72 pain last maybe my pain last for a few days 00:12:51.57\00:12:55.33 to a few weeks. And finally I get over 00:12:55.34\00:12:58.44 it but then I couldn't come back again. 00:12:58.45\00:13:00.50 And it was getting really disgusting. 00:13:01.03\00:13:03.27 Because I didn't think anything was structurally 00:13:03.83\00:13:06.84 wrong a herniated disc or pinched nerve 00:13:06.85\00:13:10.12 or something like that. I just knew I was hurt it, 00:13:10.13\00:13:12.30 in fact it got so bad that I that I would have 00:13:12.31\00:13:14.95 to lay right flat on the floor and I will go 00:13:14.96\00:13:17.22 into that just in minute what some of these. 00:13:17.23\00:13:18.42 You won't lie on the floor here. 00:13:18.43\00:13:19.68 No, I won't lie on the floor here but I have 00:13:19.69\00:13:21.42 to lay on the floor. And then he would take me 00:13:21.43\00:13:22.96 maybe an hour get up off the floor when I need 00:13:22.97\00:13:25.68 to get up. And how old are you? 00:13:25.69\00:13:27.26 I was about eighteen. Oh, my goodness! 00:13:27.27\00:13:29.78 And so I went to this doctor, who is a DO 00:13:29.79\00:13:33.35 and I said you know I have been struggling 00:13:33.76\00:13:36.57 with this long enough. I am going to give you 00:13:36.58\00:13:38.99 on treatment one of his visit to help me 00:13:39.00\00:13:42.46 and we can't I think, I am gonna have to go 00:13:43.24\00:13:44.87 with surgery. He says well I don't know I can't 00:13:44.88\00:13:49.03 promise you but I think I can help you. 00:13:49.04\00:13:50.65 So he stretched my muscles little bit 00:13:51.40\00:13:54.24 and then pulled rather my back little bit 00:13:54.25\00:13:56.35 is it alright I have done my part now you gotta 00:13:56.36\00:13:59.25 do your part. Your part is follow these exercises 00:13:59.26\00:14:03.38 do them several times a week maybe at 00:14:03.39\00:14:05.12 beginnings a couple of times a day several times 00:14:05.13\00:14:07.56 a week and in a month or so you are gonna be 00:14:07.57\00:14:10.29 strengthening your muscles enough. 00:14:10.30\00:14:11.66 So that you're, you're not gonna have to come 00:14:12.08\00:14:13.87 and see me again. You were very fortunate 00:14:13.88\00:14:16.43 to go to your physician, yes, who recognized 00:14:16.44\00:14:19.76 the route cause. Rather then just a symptom, 00:14:19.77\00:14:22.35 rather then just giving you I mean 00:14:22.36\00:14:23.50 he couldn't give you all kinds of medications. 00:14:23.51\00:14:25.21 Oh! Yeah in fact the first one did. 00:14:25.22\00:14:27.15 Yeah but you saw somebody who was able 00:14:27.16\00:14:30.28 to say let's look at the route cause 00:14:30.29\00:14:32.45 of this pain and let's address the route 00:14:32.46\00:14:35.61 cause by addressing the route cause he was able 00:14:35.62\00:14:37.93 to give you some good support. 00:14:37.94\00:14:39.86 Now there are some unusual conditions 00:14:40.39\00:14:43.38 and you know not normal conditions 00:14:43.39\00:14:45.08 why that cause back pain too. 00:14:45.09\00:14:46.71 And when we have it we may need to go see 00:14:47.28\00:14:51.42 a doctor what are some of those? 00:14:51.43\00:14:52.66 Well you know there are some serious 00:14:52.67\00:14:54.62 conditions that can cause back pain. 00:14:54.63\00:14:56.15 Beside exercise lack of exercise besides arthritis, 00:14:56.32\00:14:59.49 besides posture and some of those. 00:14:59.50\00:15:01.58 We are talking about here, we are talking about 00:15:01.59\00:15:04.10 forms of back pain that are common. 00:15:04.79\00:15:09.46 But if you've had a history of cancer then 00:15:10.27\00:15:13.31 it would be necessary for you to have your 00:15:13.32\00:15:16.30 back carefully checked and even with some 00:15:16.31\00:15:19.39 investigations because you would want to be 00:15:19.40\00:15:21.77 sure you didn't have maybe as secondary cancer 00:15:21.78\00:15:26.43 or metastasis in the spine. If you've had 00:15:26.44\00:15:29.28 an injury it's very important to check out 00:15:29.29\00:15:32.14 that there hasn't been a broken bone there. 00:15:32.49\00:15:34.97 Some times there are congenital problems 00:15:34.98\00:15:37.40 people can be born with the defective spinal 00:15:37.41\00:15:42.27 structures so that the spine may have slipped 00:15:42.91\00:15:46.04 forward on itself it's a condition called 00:15:46.05\00:15:47.91 spondylolisthesis. Sometimes back pain 00:15:47.92\00:15:52.49 is a result of an injury that may have not been 00:15:54.29\00:15:58.51 noted as being too major. My wife has had 00:15:59.13\00:16:02.14 a lot of trouble when she was a child 00:16:02.15\00:16:04.12 she was tobogganing and the toboggan went down 00:16:04.13\00:16:07.27 it seemed to me like it was going over about 00:16:07.95\00:16:09.69 a 90 degree angle and then there was a perfect 00:16:09.70\00:16:12.54 drop right on to the tip of spine. 00:16:12.55\00:16:14.80 And she has had pain in the coccyx which we call 00:16:14.81\00:16:17.32 coccydynia ever since. So you need to be seen 00:16:17.33\00:16:22.27 for that a sudden acute onset of the pain 00:16:22.28\00:16:24.83 that come suddenly may mean that something 00:16:25.24\00:16:27.87 sudden has happened to the spine. 00:16:27.88\00:16:30.36 So there are many reasons and we would 00:16:30.37\00:16:33.27 recommend very highly that a person with 00:16:33.28\00:16:35.77 chronic or severe back pain should be checked 00:16:35.78\00:16:38.72 by a competent physician, in fact 00:16:38.73\00:16:41.74 probably somebody who specializes in back pain. 00:16:41.75\00:16:44.34 Now what would they do how would they besides 00:16:44.66\00:16:47.42 just looking at you and listening to you, 00:16:47.43\00:16:49.73 complain about all that pain? What could they do 00:16:49.74\00:16:52.52 to sort a look into your back and see what 00:16:52.53\00:16:54.89 is really going on? It might depend on who you got 00:16:54.90\00:16:56.82 to see you know years ago when I was working 00:16:56.83\00:17:00.97 with a back pain specialist in Toronto 00:17:00.98\00:17:03.07 we would do ordinary plain x rays because 00:17:04.66\00:17:07.44 that was the best we had. And we sometimes 00:17:07.45\00:17:10.66 we would look at them and imagine 00:17:10.67\00:17:12.09 or see things on those plain films but to look 00:17:12.10\00:17:15.91 at the spine and come up with a very concrete 00:17:15.92\00:17:17.91 diagnosis is not an easy task. 00:17:17.92\00:17:19.68 Now chiropractors tend to use a lot of x rays. 00:17:20.17\00:17:23.16 And in so doing, they maybe give lot of 00:17:23.64\00:17:27.54 radiation to the back. Today with MRI's 00:17:27.55\00:17:32.68 it's possible to very, very clearly delineate 00:17:33.30\00:17:37.21 the spinal column, and the spinal cord 00:17:37.89\00:17:41.62 and to be able visualize and view many 00:17:42.32\00:17:45.55 of the foramina. Now those are the little holes 00:17:45.56\00:17:47.84 through which the nerves go. 00:17:47.85\00:17:48.97 And to make a very precise diagnosis 00:17:49.48\00:17:52.91 so today depending up on just the nature 00:17:53.39\00:17:57.42 and severity of your pain, the doctors first 00:17:57.43\00:17:59.17 they are going to take a history, 00:17:59.18\00:18:00.27 the history and the follow it with a 00:18:00.98\00:18:03.18 physical examination. He's going to see if when 00:18:03.19\00:18:06.60 he lift you lie down to and he lifts your leg 00:18:06.61\00:18:08.50 if there's a stretching of this sciatic nerve 00:18:08.51\00:18:10.47 if that causes pain. Because as you stretch 00:18:10.48\00:18:13.07 that nerve over maybe a protruding disc 00:18:13.08\00:18:15.75 it will give pain. He may want to know whether 00:18:15.76\00:18:19.56 the pain is when you bend backwards 00:18:19.57\00:18:20.94 when you bend forwards, he looks to see if there 00:18:20.95\00:18:24.16 is muscle spasm because a lot of back pain 00:18:24.17\00:18:26.58 is muscle spasm. A lot of the pain of back pain 00:18:26.59\00:18:29.57 is muscle spasm and that where chiropractic 00:18:29.58\00:18:31.88 or manipulation may very well help that 00:18:31.89\00:18:34.49 muscle spasm. How long if spasm is a problem 00:18:34.50\00:18:38.35 what about muscles relaxants? 00:18:38.36\00:18:39.72 Well they may work but again on the short term 00:18:40.36\00:18:44.00 medication for back pain is really not my first 00:18:44.47\00:18:48.09 choice I would prefer that something more 00:18:48.10\00:18:51.19 definitive be done then just trying to cover 00:18:51.20\00:18:53.74 the pain. Now let we talk about some other 00:18:53.75\00:18:55.68 area that's people have chronic back pain 00:18:55.69\00:18:57.99 that means they have almost continual back pain. 00:18:58.00\00:19:00.27 Now they start out with thyronol, aspirin 00:19:00.84\00:19:02.90 or something like that then they may go to 00:19:02.91\00:19:04.36 the muscle relaxant and then they graduate 00:19:04.37\00:19:07.86 till they are real serious pain medication 00:19:08.23\00:19:11.37 what are some of those and what are the dangers 00:19:11.90\00:19:14.82 of getting addicted? First of all we have 00:19:14.83\00:19:16.74 to understand back pain is a real problem, 00:19:16.75\00:19:19.21 it's really a major problem. 00:19:19.78\00:19:21.70 And people who have a severe pain do look 00:19:22.37\00:19:26.28 for a relief from that pain. 00:19:26.29\00:19:27.60 And when they start getting on to 00:19:27.61\00:19:29.11 the codeinones and the codeines. 00:19:29.12\00:19:31.55 And maybe even the more potent pain relievers 00:19:31.56\00:19:34.75 you know you they are gone to the percocets 00:19:34.76\00:19:36.17 and ended up to the, maybe even opioids 00:19:36.18\00:19:39.14 morphine, there's a real risk of addiction. 00:19:39.64\00:19:42.57 So physicians are very aware of these 00:19:42.98\00:19:45.26 and sometimes patients shot from one physician 00:19:45.67\00:19:48.35 to another. We need to be very careful. 00:19:48.36\00:19:50.61 They are varying prescriptions for more 00:19:50.62\00:19:51.59 than one. More than one, we need to be very 00:19:51.60\00:19:52.77 careful, yes this is where people need to be 00:19:52.78\00:19:56.05 aware of. Alright what about if you really 00:19:56.06\00:19:59.68 have a serious structural problem what 00:19:59.69\00:20:01.67 about surgery? When then how do we know 00:20:01.68\00:20:03.89 that we need a surgery? If there is a 00:20:03.90\00:20:06.40 definitive lesion, if you can find a degenerative 00:20:06.41\00:20:11.50 disc that some people call it or a prolapsing 00:20:11.51\00:20:13.73 of that disc that is compressing a nerve. 00:20:13.74\00:20:17.16 Maybe surgery can remove that 00:20:17.81\00:20:19.88 but there is a lot of surgery that is done 00:20:21.09\00:20:23.07 that doesn't result in benefit so it's a very 00:20:23.08\00:20:26.97 tricky question you have to have somebody 00:20:26.98\00:20:28.81 who is highly competent and whom you really 00:20:28.82\00:20:31.27 trust when you are thinking about surgery. 00:20:31.28\00:20:33.04 Some of the surgery is not reconstructive 00:20:33.05\00:20:36.78 but relatively destructive and that they may 00:20:36.79\00:20:39.55 need to fuse a segment so it just doesn't move 00:20:39.56\00:20:43.41 or bent so that there won't be pain in that zone. 00:20:43.42\00:20:47.09 But when you do that you actually diminish 00:20:47.56\00:20:50.19 the natural function. So surgery has a definite 00:20:50.20\00:20:53.25 place for intractable pain that's pain that 00:20:53.26\00:20:56.15 people can't cope with. And that there is a 00:20:56.16\00:20:58.35 specific lesion for but sometimes the surgery 00:20:58.36\00:21:03.27 is done when it would be better not to have 00:21:03.28\00:21:05.43 been done. That's good, you know I in my own 00:21:05.44\00:21:08.15 case I did need to go into use pains, 00:21:08.16\00:21:12.58 pain medication very long because of this doctor 00:21:12.59\00:21:15.85 who has given me these exercises. 00:21:15.86\00:21:17.28 And you know there are a number of things 00:21:17.72\00:21:19.60 we can do to relieve this pain. 00:21:19.61\00:21:21.11 Perhaps you share with us what the exercise 00:21:21.12\00:21:23.26 were because I think it's good for the 00:21:23.27\00:21:24.66 viewers to see. First of all you know many times 00:21:24.67\00:21:27.81 laying flat on the back on the floor on a rug 00:21:27.82\00:21:30.31 on a carpet or something like that 00:21:30.32\00:21:31.91 will give you pain. But some of the simple 00:21:31.92\00:21:34.53 exercises I wish we can demonstrate them here 00:21:34.54\00:21:36.42 but we can't. But I think I can explain them, 00:21:36.43\00:21:38.23 first of all just stretch out on your back 00:21:38.63\00:21:40.98 and then push your back here that you bottom 00:21:41.45\00:21:45.82 for you lumbar section toward just push towards 00:21:45.83\00:21:48.99 the carpet. And then raise the both legs about 00:21:49.00\00:21:52.77 three or four inches and hold it there. 00:21:52.78\00:21:54.90 The first time you do this you may not be able 00:21:54.91\00:21:57.10 to hold it very long but you will get up 00:21:57.11\00:21:59.69 and when shall you do it 4-5 times. 00:21:59.70\00:22:02.00 You will hold it, you will raise them up 4-5 inches 00:22:02.49\00:22:05.09 hold it up for 10 seconds to count of 10 then 00:22:05.10\00:22:07.98 drop and relax. Do it again for 3 or 4 times 00:22:07.99\00:22:10.79 as long as several times then you could that 00:22:10.80\00:22:13.19 a couple of times a day several times a week. 00:22:13.20\00:22:15.33 And that would begin to strengthening these 00:22:15.65\00:22:17.17 muscles and plus giving you a little relief. 00:22:17.18\00:22:19.04 Another thing you can do is to lie flat on the 00:22:20.19\00:22:23.14 back again and then leave your legs on the floor 00:22:23.15\00:22:26.50 flat on the floor but raise your shoulders up, 00:22:26.51\00:22:28.80 put your head and shoulders up just a 00:22:28.81\00:22:30.47 little bit be sure to keep the head straight 00:22:30.48\00:22:32.30 though just don't be moving the head. 00:22:32.31\00:22:33.99 But you wanna, wanna move all the that up 00:22:35.19\00:22:37.67 together if you can, now at first that's gonna be 00:22:37.68\00:22:40.31 hard to do for some people because those 00:22:40.85\00:22:42.78 muscles are weak that's why you may have 00:22:42.79\00:22:44.82 the back pain. And you don't want to be really 00:22:44.83\00:22:46.82 doing this sit ups a lot of people. 00:22:46.83\00:22:48.23 No that's too strenuous. That's too strenuous, 00:22:48.24\00:22:50.66 yes. Now the thing is to turn over on your 00:22:50.67\00:22:53.25 stomach and do basically the same thing raise 00:22:53.26\00:22:56.50 you head and shoulders together up just 00:22:56.51\00:22:58.57 a little bit up, up a little bit and hold it to 00:22:58.58\00:23:02.29 count of 5 or so and then relax and then try 00:23:02.30\00:23:05.80 that again. And the other is then pull have 00:23:05.81\00:23:09.70 your stomach and your chin on the floor. 00:23:09.71\00:23:11.25 And then raise your legs off while you are 00:23:11.59\00:23:15.28 on your stomach. This is just two very 00:23:15.29\00:23:18.43 simple exercises that will, will help. 00:23:18.44\00:23:22.22 Now the other thing we got a few minutes 00:23:22.23\00:23:24.30 left it might help to strengthening 00:23:24.31\00:23:27.79 your muscles is while we are like we are here 00:23:27.80\00:23:30.15 we can be slumped over or we can straighten 00:23:30.16\00:23:33.14 our back up. Now if you are sitting for long 00:23:33.15\00:23:35.54 periods of time just every few minutes of 00:23:35.55\00:23:38.64 self 15 to 20 minutes take it just strengthen up 00:23:38.65\00:23:42.07 and hold that for just a little bit you start 00:23:42.49\00:23:44.32 strengthen those muscles. When you are sleeping 00:23:44.33\00:23:47.01 maybe sleep on your side and into a fetal 00:23:47.81\00:23:51.69 position maybe put up pillow between your legs, 00:23:51.70\00:23:55.22 your knees so that's something you can do 00:23:55.76\00:23:58.54 while you're, while you're sleeping. 00:23:58.55\00:24:00.27 And another important thing I think is when 00:24:01.23\00:24:04.22 we are lifting objects be sure we use our knees 00:24:04.23\00:24:07.20 to lift our objects not, not the back don't bent 00:24:07.21\00:24:10.37 the back over and then pull up the object 00:24:10.38\00:24:13.36 especially if the object is maybe a foot away 00:24:13.37\00:24:15.99 from your feet. Yes. Be very careful to let the 00:24:16.00\00:24:20.00 knees do lifting. So these are things that you can 00:24:20.01\00:24:25.66 certainly do that simple things you can do that 00:24:25.67\00:24:28.10 might strengthen those muscles and give 00:24:28.11\00:24:30.19 you little relief. When we were married 00:24:30.20\00:24:31.70 my wife insisted because she had been thought 00:24:31.71\00:24:33.89 the importance of the firm bed, she insisted 00:24:33.90\00:24:37.05 that we have a hard bed. And then there maybe 00:24:37.06\00:24:38.86 some of you who are sleeping on a hard 00:24:38.87\00:24:41.54 bed because you have heard that a firm 00:24:41.55\00:24:43.11 bed is important for you. I think that 00:24:43.12\00:24:46.18 what we need to emphasis is not the 00:24:46.19\00:24:48.94 hardness of the bed it's the supportiveness 00:24:48.95\00:24:51.60 of the bed that is important. 00:24:51.96\00:24:53.95 We don't really want to have a sagging 00:24:53.96\00:24:56.93 type of hammock like bed. We bought a cottage up 00:24:57.58\00:25:02.70 in Canada I think you slept in some of those 00:25:02.71\00:25:04.64 Beds, Stoy. The beds came. It's like a hammock, 00:25:04.65\00:25:07.46 with them and the springs are like hammock. 00:25:07.47\00:25:09.56 And when you get in there, there's the bed. 00:25:09.57\00:25:11.21 And we have to take some boards in fact 00:25:11.22\00:25:14.01 I got some of those 4 by 8 boards that 00:25:14.02\00:25:17.31 we trimmed them down. And put those under 00:25:17.32\00:25:20.57 the bed to give the support but then 00:25:20.58\00:25:22.09 we would hope that the mattress 00:25:22.10\00:25:23.68 would be not sagging. That's 4 by 8 feet 00:25:23.69\00:25:26.27 doesn't it? That's right not 4 by 8 inches. 00:25:26.28\00:25:28.96 No, no not that would do really very much. 00:25:28.97\00:25:30.97 Alright. Yes that would be the feet 00:25:30.98\00:25:32.28 and of course we are cutting down to 00:25:32.29\00:25:33.59 about 6 by 3. And so that's important to 00:25:33.60\00:25:37.51 appoint to have is that your sleeping 00:25:39.76\00:25:41.20 should be good. I like the pillow soft coverings 00:25:41.21\00:25:44.33 on a nice supportive mattress because 00:25:44.34\00:25:46.18 it gives you a sensation of comfort and yet 00:25:46.19\00:25:50.76 there is the support. And of course, 00:25:50.77\00:25:52.56 so that means we probably go out 00:25:52.57\00:25:54.05 and buy a 100 dollars mattress right? 00:25:54.06\00:25:55.36 And that will give us all that support? 00:25:55.78\00:25:57.23 No 100 $ mattress won't do it. 00:25:57.24\00:25:59.15 You know when you think about how much 00:25:59.16\00:26:00.59 time you're spending in bed you going to sleep 00:26:00.60\00:26:02.68 maybe a third of your life. So if you live 00:26:03.40\00:26:06.96 for 75 years you gonna spend 25 years in bed. 00:26:06.97\00:26:09.91 And it's a very important investment. 00:26:10.31\00:26:12.55 Oh yes. To get a good bed. And they last, 00:26:12.56\00:26:15.27 and they last. They could last for 20 years maybe. 00:26:15.28\00:26:17.17 you know It was one of the things I found 00:26:17.56\00:26:19.10 and that is flexibility and strength building 00:26:19.54\00:26:23.09 exercises that has helped tremendously because 00:26:23.10\00:26:26.49 especially as we get older and you know 00:26:26.90\00:26:28.55 our range of motion, we lose that range of motion 00:26:28.56\00:26:32.97 unless we keep, unless we keep 00:26:32.98\00:26:34.13 exercising it and keep it, give it 00:26:34.14\00:26:36.33 attention to it. Very important. 00:26:36.46\00:26:37.43 So range of motion is very important in 00:26:37.44\00:26:39.34 flexibility exercises and there is lot of 00:26:39.35\00:26:41.81 flexibility exercises. Another strength building 00:26:41.82\00:26:45.00 exercise now we all know that anaerobic exercise 00:26:45.01\00:26:47.84 is very important but when we are talking 00:26:47.85\00:26:50.08 about the back flexibility and strength 00:26:50.09\00:26:52.17 are more important for back to alleviation 00:26:53.06\00:26:56.51 or prevention of back pain than aerobic exercises. 00:26:56.52\00:26:59.80 But let's not have one or the other 00:26:59.81\00:27:02.11 let's have all three. You know I worked with 00:27:02.41\00:27:05.05 the what is you heard a book called 00:27:05.06\00:27:07.25 The Back Doctor, Dr. Hamilton Hall 00:27:07.26\00:27:09.83 form Toronto. And he wrote a book on that 00:27:09.84\00:27:12.26 and he used to always emphasis strengthening 00:27:12.27\00:27:14.07 the abdominal muscles. And that's becausev 00:27:14.08\00:27:15.07 as you strengthen the abdominal muscles up 00:27:17.01\00:27:19.60 in the front you also strengthen the muscles 00:27:19.61\00:27:23.38 to the front of the spinal column. 00:27:23.39\00:27:25.98 And this way you end up with four muscles 00:27:26.53\00:27:29.86 supporting the spinal column front and back 00:27:30.34\00:27:33.21 very important. I think that we're coming 00:27:33.56\00:27:37.40 towards the end of our program so I would like 00:27:37.41\00:27:39.35 to thank you very much Stoy that you have been 00:27:39.36\00:27:43.29 able to share your own personal experience 00:27:43.30\00:27:45.47 with our viewers. Thank you. Many of the viewers 00:27:45.48\00:27:48.39 will have experienced back pain and will have 00:27:48.40\00:27:50.06 been pleased. And fortunately 00:27:50.07\00:27:51.27 I have been free of back pain for many years now. 00:27:51.28\00:27:53.62 And I can lift anything I can, I am better 00:27:53.63\00:27:57.30 now I was when I was 18. 00:27:57.31\00:27:58.65 Well, that's a wonderful testimony. 00:27:58.95\00:28:00.38 You know we are fearfully and wonderfully made 00:28:00.75\00:28:04.23 and if we will only keep good stewardship 00:28:04.95\00:28:08.63 of our bodies we can exist in very happy 00:28:08.64\00:28:12.80 and a very contended way. 00:28:13.42\00:28:15.28