Welcome to Wonderfully Made. My name is 00:00:35.66\00:00:39.13 Dr. George Guthrie. I am here from Lifestyle Center 00:00:39.16\00:00:42.54 of America at the 3ABN studios to talk 00:00:42.57\00:00:45.34 to you today about weight loss. 00:00:45.37\00:00:48.31 About two and half years ago I changed 00:00:49.27\00:00:52.68 the focus of my practice from treating sick people 00:00:52.71\00:00:55.62 to helping to treat the cause of the problem 00:00:55.65\00:00:59.05 rather than just the symptoms. 00:00:59.08\00:01:02.52 Now with me to discuss this topic 00:01:03.80\00:01:06.64 with us today is Dr. Tim Arnott. 00:01:06.67\00:01:09.27 Hello I am also working with Dr. George Guthrie 00:01:09.30\00:01:15.11 at Lifestyle Center of America, 00:01:15.14\00:01:17.22 been there for about 5 years and a I am married, 00:01:17.25\00:01:21.97 I have a three lovely daughters, 00:01:22.00\00:01:23.97 Jena, Hana, and Heidi and my wife name 00:01:24.00\00:01:26.85 is Sylvia and its good to be here on Wonderfully Made. 00:01:26.88\00:01:29.33 Well Tim we are here to talk about weight loss 00:01:29.36\00:01:32.72 and there you are all slim and trim and 00:01:32.75\00:01:35.60 well I will comment on myself here. 00:01:35.63\00:01:38.50 What right do we have to talk about weight loss? 00:01:38.53\00:01:42.45 Well Dr. Guthrie even though it may look like we 00:01:42.48\00:01:46.42 have never had a weight problem or may be can't 00:01:46.45\00:01:49.53 identify with our audience in that area, 00:01:49.56\00:01:51.98 the truth is that both of us have stories 00:01:52.01\00:01:55.48 that we'd like to share this afternoon, 00:01:55.51\00:01:57.51 and I think that if you listen to this stories 00:01:57.54\00:02:01.05 you probably can learn something about some of the 00:02:01.08\00:02:03.79 principles of weight loss. Many people 00:02:03.82\00:02:07.24 are interested in this whole topic and they are 00:02:07.27\00:02:09.65 searching for a better solution, I think we have 00:02:09.68\00:02:12.77 found some interesting and exciting things 00:02:12.80\00:02:14.75 at the Lifestyle Center of America 00:02:14.78\00:02:16.62 that we like to share. But I like to go 00:02:16.65\00:02:18.47 back to 1983 when I was a student missionary 00:02:18.50\00:02:23.01 in South Thailand and if you ever visited Thailand 00:02:23.04\00:02:27.95 you know that they like to eat a lot of 00:02:27.98\00:02:30.96 fried food, and so we were are eating fried rice 00:02:30.99\00:02:34.33 another fried food probably at least twice a day 00:02:34.36\00:02:37.79 over there in South Thailand, and I found that 00:02:37.82\00:02:40.90 my weight actually over the period of that year went up 00:02:40.93\00:02:44.18 actually to 40 pounds heavier than I what I am right 00:02:44.21\00:02:48.07 now. And so I discovered that if you 00:02:48.10\00:02:51.51 want to gain weight which is something my wife 00:02:51.54\00:02:54.10 is often wanting me to do. Fried food 00:02:54.13\00:02:57.68 is something that can help you gain weight 00:02:57.71\00:03:00.23 and on the converse if you like to loss weight 00:03:00.26\00:03:02.86 moving away from fried food 00:03:02.89\00:03:05.05 can also be a very helpful tool. 00:03:05.08\00:03:07.99 Good, good my own experience of growing up 00:03:08.02\00:03:13.08 as I was always a short fat kid in the class. 00:03:13.11\00:03:15.74 Really got tired of being called fatso 00:03:15.77\00:03:19.00 and so I was got into high school, my mother 00:03:19.03\00:03:23.85 recommend that I stop eating suppers 00:03:23.88\00:03:26.84 as a way of helping to control my weight and that's being 00:03:26.87\00:03:30.45 something is being really important to me as well as 00:03:30.48\00:03:32.83 of course cutting down on the amount of fat 00:03:32.86\00:03:36.50 I was taking. Tim I was thinking the other day about 00:03:36.53\00:03:40.73 the fastest way I know how to loose weight. 00:03:40.76\00:03:43.07 People always interested in loosing weight 00:03:43.10\00:03:45.30 but the fastest way to loose weight that I have 00:03:45.33\00:03:48.22 ever heard of is to have a baby. 00:03:48.25\00:03:50.18 You know that's like 20 pounds gone. 00:03:50.21\00:03:53.65 That's correct and you know that's one of the 00:03:53.68\00:03:57.02 exciting things about Lifestyle medicine is it you 00:03:57.05\00:04:00.29 get to work with individuals who have a breath of 00:04:00.32\00:04:04.39 experiences and sometimes that experiences comes 00:04:04.42\00:04:06.70 little bit of sense of humor. Okay I appreciate it 00:04:06.73\00:04:09.55 Dr. George Guthrie's so his humor over the years. 00:04:09.58\00:04:13.62 Tell us a little bit more about some of the things 00:04:13.65\00:04:16.56 that you have learned Dr. Guthrie about weight loss 00:04:16.59\00:04:20.41 and this whole issue. Well as I explained it first 00:04:20.44\00:04:27.65 my focus was actually on when someone 00:04:27.68\00:04:31.24 actually eats. I know growing up it was generally 00:04:31.27\00:04:35.83 three solids meals a day and those meals 00:04:35.86\00:04:41.10 tended to make me gain weight. When I start 00:04:41.13\00:04:44.81 leaving off evening meal of course I was good and 00:04:44.84\00:04:48.10 hungry for breakfast and I had a good lunch, 00:04:48.13\00:04:50.01 by the time supper time came around. 00:04:50.04\00:04:52.09 I really didn't need to eat to it, it was 00:04:52.12\00:04:55.30 more social sort of a thing I found as I left that off 00:04:55.33\00:04:58.89 it was little difficult at first but over the 00:04:58.92\00:05:02.63 couple of weeks that's followed my stomach began to 00:05:02.66\00:05:06.27 get use to new pattern and I wasn't having 00:05:06.30\00:05:08.65 any problem at all. So you found that meal 00:05:08.68\00:05:11.94 timing is actually very important for, yes, those 00:05:11.97\00:05:14.89 who want to loss weight. Yes, yes as a matter of fact 00:05:14.92\00:05:16.96 I found the study actually done in the late 70's 00:05:16.99\00:05:19.95 by fellow with the name of Dr. Hulbert 00:05:19.98\00:05:21.99 that look at a group of people in the 00:05:22.02\00:05:25.02 a metabolic word and they were given 00:05:25.05\00:05:27.25 a 2000 calorie meal once a day either in the 00:05:27.28\00:05:32.14 morning or in the evening. Those people 00:05:32.17\00:05:35.69 who had the meal in the morning lost significantly 00:05:35.72\00:05:39.06 more weight and those who had the meal in the evening 00:05:39.09\00:05:41.10 so. Even though they had the same number of 00:05:41.13\00:05:43.14 calories. Even though they had the same number 00:05:43.17\00:05:44.71 of calories, and this kind of make sense. 00:05:44.74\00:05:46.67 You know if you take a big meal like most American do 00:05:46.70\00:05:50.03 just before you lay down at night, 00:05:50.06\00:05:52.12 what can your body do but store it. 00:05:52.15\00:05:55.15 One of the things I would like to say is 00:05:55.18\00:05:57.57 if you are gonna get on an airplane and fly 00:05:57.60\00:06:00.59 from here to Honolulu would you want them to 00:06:00.62\00:06:03.01 put the fuel in the airplane here after you got 00:06:03.04\00:06:05.14 to Honolulu, there is just thought to it, 00:06:05.17\00:06:07.35 it make sense to put the fuel in the plane 00:06:07.38\00:06:09.48 now and indeed while we were flying through 00:06:09.51\00:06:11.68 the day we are more likely to burn the calories. 00:06:11.71\00:06:14.67 And actually there is evidence that the body 00:06:14.70\00:06:17.41 actually burns calories at a higher rate 00:06:17.44\00:06:21.40 earlier in the day and as the day wears 00:06:21.43\00:06:23.65 on its actually less likely to burn those 00:06:23.68\00:06:26.80 calories at least not up the same rate. 00:06:26.83\00:06:29.77 So meal timing is important. Sure. 00:06:29.80\00:06:32.68 Any other principles that we can share with 00:06:32.71\00:06:35.45 our listeners. Well I think another 00:06:35.48\00:06:40.67 important principle is that long slow 00:06:40.70\00:06:43.21 graduate weight loss is better than rapid 00:06:43.24\00:06:46.11 weight loss. You know the proverbial weight loss 00:06:46.14\00:06:49.87 from delivering a baby is impossible 00:06:49.90\00:06:54.26 this quick rapid stuff actually causes problems 00:06:54.29\00:06:58.74 in the physiology if we loss weight really fast. 00:06:58.77\00:07:02.65 So long slow gradual is the safest and best way 00:07:02.68\00:07:06.27 to loose weight. So we are talking about 00:07:06.30\00:07:08.17 a pound or pound in a half a week is that, 00:07:08.20\00:07:10.90 would that be a good ballpark. That's pretty 00:07:10.93\00:07:13.10 reasonable, sure. Well Dr. Guthrie let's bring 00:07:13.13\00:07:17.36 it little bit closure to the Lifestyle center 00:07:17.39\00:07:19.73 of America. We've got some interesting things to 00:07:19.76\00:07:23.25 talk about in that venue where we are doing 00:07:23.28\00:07:27.12 our business. That's right 00:07:27.15\00:07:28.70 that's right. And you know we actually 00:07:28.73\00:07:31.13 found some very exciting things happening. 00:07:31.16\00:07:33.63 We have actually had patients that we have been 00:07:33.66\00:07:37.00 following not just for 19 days. Right. 00:07:37.03\00:07:38.82 Not just for 11 days but we have being doing 00:07:38.85\00:07:42.12 some follow up research where we have been 00:07:42.15\00:07:44.55 following patients for up to one year. 00:07:44.58\00:07:46.71 Many individuals say yes Lifestyle medicine 00:07:46.74\00:07:50.54 is wonderful but people don't stick to it 00:07:50.57\00:07:53.51 or you never follow them long enough to know 00:07:53.54\00:07:56.38 if it's really beneficial for the long term. 00:07:56.41\00:07:59.52 And so we have also been interested in 00:07:59.55\00:08:02.08 some of those questions and we have been looking 00:08:02.11\00:08:04.13 at some of the data that our guests have been 00:08:04.16\00:08:06.97 giving to us and we have some exciting things 00:08:07.00\00:08:09.38 to share this afternoon. 00:08:09.41\00:08:11.70 Before you actually switch to the long term data 00:08:11.73\00:08:14.94 because the long term data is the most important. 00:08:14.97\00:08:16.77 People usually loose weight when they come 00:08:16.80\00:08:20.79 to our centre. There is a change of lifestyle. 00:08:20.82\00:08:23.25 We make a change in their diet. 00:08:23.28\00:08:24.97 We teach them about exercise and kind of 00:08:25.00\00:08:27.33 put the whole thing together, and the 00:08:27.36\00:08:29.04 average weight loss is about 9 to 10 pounds 00:08:29.07\00:08:31.83 for the two and half weeks that they are 00:08:31.86\00:08:34.23 with us. Our curiosity of course has been 00:08:34.26\00:08:38.02 great about what happens into the future. 00:08:38.05\00:08:39.88 What happens a year later and that's the 00:08:39.91\00:08:42.29 exciting data that we have here. 00:08:42.32\00:08:44.21 That's right. One of the things that we are 00:08:44.24\00:08:45.90 learning at the Lifestyle Center of America 00:08:45.93\00:08:47.58 is that people that adopt a lifestyle change 00:08:47.61\00:08:51.17 program. They adopt a plant based diet, 00:08:51.20\00:08:54.90 exercise, drinking water and getting sunlight 00:08:54.93\00:08:57.80 the different health remedies that 00:08:57.83\00:09:00.28 are available from our creator. 00:09:00.31\00:09:01.92 They actually all of them on average loose 00:09:01.95\00:09:06.22 weight even for a period of up to one year. 00:09:06.25\00:09:09.58 They are all have a lower weight at the end of 00:09:09.61\00:09:13.09 one year than when they started the program. 00:09:13.12\00:09:15.10 But we also Dr. Guthrie as you know 00:09:15.13\00:09:18.20 discovered that some people loose more 00:09:18.23\00:09:20.83 weight than others. That's right. 00:09:20.86\00:09:22.49 As you might expect and so what we are going 00:09:22.52\00:09:25.03 to be sharing during this program is 00:09:25.06\00:09:27.37 what gave that group that lost more weight 00:09:27.40\00:09:31.31 and advantage. What were they doing 00:09:31.34\00:09:33.09 that the other group was not doing. 00:09:33.12\00:09:34.70 What made them successful. 00:09:34.73\00:09:36.28 Exactly, and the first thing that we want 00:09:36.31\00:09:40.05 share this afternoon is the differences 00:09:40.08\00:09:42.18 in the weight loss for those who lost the 00:09:42.21\00:09:45.86 most weight and those who lost less. 00:09:45.89\00:09:48.19 We would like to share that graphic at this time. 00:09:48.22\00:09:50.80 Okay. And just it will help us to see there was 00:09:50.83\00:09:53.96 indeed the difference. You can see 00:09:53.99\00:09:56.17 those who lost the most weight lost about 00:09:56.20\00:09:59.26 30 pounds at the end of one year, they were 00:09:59.29\00:10:01.19 30 pound lighter, and those who have lost the 00:10:01.22\00:10:06.05 least weight after going through this 00:10:06.08\00:10:09.03 Lifestyle Center program and being on it for 00:10:09.06\00:10:11.39 year they lost about two and half pounds 00:10:11.42\00:10:13.91 not quite two and half pounds. So that was 00:10:13.94\00:10:16.73 definitely a highly statistically 00:10:16.76\00:10:18.55 significant difference. And so what we are going 00:10:18.58\00:10:22.19 to try to do is to find out what made the difference 00:10:22.22\00:10:24.71 between these two groups as far as their 00:10:24.74\00:10:26.49 Lifestyle choices. Exactly. What did those 00:10:26.52\00:10:28.53 who lost nearly 30 pounds do that helped their 00:10:28.56\00:10:31.21 weight come off and stay off that was different 00:10:31.24\00:10:34.11 from what those that they had only lost two 00:10:34.14\00:10:37.31 and half pounds. But as we go through 00:10:37.34\00:10:39.01 this we want to emphasize that all of the 00:10:39.04\00:10:41.21 participants lost weight, and we simply wanted 00:10:41.24\00:10:44.59 in this program highlight what those individuals 00:10:44.62\00:10:47.05 who lost the most weight were doing, 00:10:47.08\00:10:49.20 what made the difference. Yes. 00:10:49.23\00:10:50.94 And so first thing we want to look at 00:10:50.97\00:10:53.84 is how much weight they lost during the program, 00:10:53.87\00:10:57.53 did that make a difference. Was one group more 00:10:57.56\00:11:00.90 successful during the program so we would like to 00:11:00.93\00:11:02.79 show that data at this time. And as you 00:11:02.82\00:11:06.03 mentioned earlier you actually referred to 00:11:06.06\00:11:07.92 this that the average weight loss 00:11:07.95\00:11:10.57 during a program is about 9 pounds, 00:11:10.60\00:11:13.29 and you can see here that those individuals 00:11:13.32\00:11:16.73 who actually the top performers, those who lost 00:11:16.76\00:11:20.56 the most weight at the end of one year, 00:11:20.59\00:11:23.05 they lost about 8 or 9 pounds at the end 00:11:23.08\00:11:27.17 of the 19 day session. And this was not 00:11:27.20\00:11:29.99 statistically significant difference. 00:11:30.02\00:11:32.69 That's right; basically the individuals who 00:11:32.72\00:11:35.39 lost the most weight at the end of one year 00:11:35.42\00:11:37.68 didn't loss any more weight than those 00:11:37.71\00:11:39.95 who lost the least weight at the end 00:11:39.98\00:11:42.08 of one year. That is during the program. 00:11:42.11\00:11:43.58 During the program they had the 00:11:43.61\00:11:44.99 similar weight lost, so that's actually 00:11:45.02\00:11:47.75 good news. I mean you don't have to 00:11:47.78\00:11:49.53 have a lot of weight loss in a short period 00:11:49.56\00:11:52.25 of time if you are going to be highly 00:11:52.28\00:11:53.94 successful over the long term. Right, 00:11:53.97\00:11:56.17 right. Well the next thing that we 00:11:56.20\00:11:58.43 like to share is probably the most important 00:11:58.46\00:12:01.36 piece of information that we've learned 00:12:01.39\00:12:03.95 during this follow up study and we'd like to 00:12:03.98\00:12:07.38 share that at this time and this actually 00:12:07.41\00:12:09.94 shows that the individuals who lost nearly 00:12:09.97\00:12:13.86 30 pounds at the end of one year, 00:12:13.89\00:12:16.17 they were doing something more than the 00:12:16.20\00:12:20.18 individuals who only lost about two and half 00:12:20.21\00:12:23.06 pounds at the end of one year. 00:12:23.09\00:12:25.13 Share with us Dr. Guthrie what was 00:12:25.16\00:12:27.29 those individuals doing. Well its looks like 00:12:27.32\00:12:30.25 that the difference was simply that they 00:12:30.28\00:12:32.55 were taking a 100 percent plant based diet. 00:12:32.58\00:12:35.70 They were avoiding all animal products. 00:12:35.73\00:12:38.24 That's right, if you look at the data again 00:12:38.27\00:12:40.96 who can actually see that the individuals 00:12:40.99\00:12:43.21 who lost 30 pounds approximately at the 00:12:43.24\00:12:46.25 end of one year, they were on a 00:12:46.28\00:12:48.33 total plant diet nearly 6 days of every week 00:12:48.36\00:12:53.08 or about twice as many days as 00:12:53.11\00:12:55.34 those who only lost about two and half pound 00:12:55.37\00:12:57.76 at the end of one year. 00:12:57.79\00:12:59.66 So what is it Dr. Guthrie about a plant based diet 00:12:59.69\00:13:03.81 and perhaps we should talk a little bit 00:13:03.84\00:13:06.40 also about what it means to be vegan 00:13:06.43\00:13:08.46 just flush that out a little bit. What is it about 00:13:08.49\00:13:11.96 this kind food that helps individuals 00:13:11.99\00:13:14.00 loose weight. You are right that word vegan 00:13:14.03\00:13:16.25 sometimes just almost means a religion, 00:13:16.28\00:13:18.98 and we are really not dealing with it that 00:13:19.01\00:13:20.84 way, we saw the word on the slide 00:13:20.87\00:13:23.44 and the slide means really it's a hundred percent 00:13:23.47\00:13:27.04 plant based diet. What makes the differences 00:13:27.07\00:13:29.95 in plants? Well there is a lot of thing in plants 00:13:29.98\00:13:31.98 that are of benefit I think water is probably 00:13:32.01\00:13:35.46 a real good one to point out. 00:13:35.49\00:13:37.45 There is awful lot water in 100 percent 00:13:37.48\00:13:40.82 plant based diet, and water has no calories. 00:13:40.85\00:13:43.22 So you can eat it, it fills you up 00:13:43.25\00:13:45.38 and there is no calories from it. 00:13:45.41\00:13:47.91 So barring the nuts and seeds, plant foods 00:13:47.94\00:13:52.63 are about 80 percent water, of course the 00:13:52.66\00:13:56.07 nuts and seeds about 10 percent water. 00:13:56.10\00:13:58.16 So you want to use them sparingly. 00:13:58.19\00:14:00.63 In moderation. But what else the plants 00:14:00.66\00:14:02.58 have that can actually help us 00:14:02.61\00:14:05.26 trim our weight over the long haul. 00:14:05.29\00:14:08.09 Well as we talk about calories vegan 00:14:08.12\00:14:11.00 of course focusing on the fiber. 00:14:11.03\00:14:13.86 A fiber by definition you cant really digest, 00:14:13.89\00:14:16.95 it has no calories you put the food in 00:14:16.98\00:14:19.88 your mouth and it travels through and 00:14:19.91\00:14:21.76 comes out the other end, so calories zero 00:14:21.79\00:14:24.10 fills you up, no calories and it help 00:14:24.13\00:14:26.92 to ensure weight loss or at least 00:14:26.95\00:14:29.57 continued maintenance of a weight loss. 00:14:29.60\00:14:31.49 So plants are high in water, they are 00:14:31.52\00:14:34.22 high in fiber and neither of those things 00:14:34.25\00:14:37.10 contribute to weight loss or weight gain 00:14:37.13\00:14:39.15 I should say, and they do contribute to 00:14:39.18\00:14:41.01 weight loss. Right. And so just 00:14:41.04\00:14:43.75 remember if you want to be successful 00:14:43.78\00:14:46.12 not just over a short period of time but 00:14:46.15\00:14:47.94 over a long period of time, you 00:14:47.97\00:14:49.87 may want to increase the number of total plant food 00:14:49.90\00:14:54.86 days that you are eating 00:14:54.89\00:14:56.67 and you might be able to share similar results. 00:14:56.70\00:14:59.32 What about exercise Tim. 00:14:59.35\00:15:01.78 Well you know we are gonna talk little bit about 00:15:01.81\00:15:05.07 of exercise and we learnt some 00:15:05.10\00:15:06.82 actually some very surprising things 00:15:06.85\00:15:08.54 about exercise and many people probably 00:15:08.57\00:15:12.96 thinks Dr. Guthrie that you could 00:15:12.99\00:15:15.53 have a high energy snack and than go out 00:15:15.56\00:15:19.16 for walk for few miles and that can sort of 00:15:19.19\00:15:22.03 cover the high energy snack. What 00:15:22.06\00:15:25.06 would you say to that thought process? 00:15:25.09\00:15:27.17 It doesn't work really well, I know 00:15:27.20\00:15:32.03 I wrestled with that as well, I thought 00:15:32.06\00:15:34.43 I will have this peace of cake, if I can 00:15:34.46\00:15:36.43 just play basketball for an hour whatever it is, 00:15:36.46\00:15:39.08 may be I can get rid of it. The problem 00:15:39.11\00:15:41.40 is not all calories are the same from that direction. 00:15:41.43\00:15:45.67 Our bodies don't continue to use them, 00:15:45.70\00:15:50.42 exercises is not being as good at helping people 00:15:50.45\00:15:53.37 to actually loose weight at the onset. 00:15:53.40\00:15:55.94 Probably one of the most important things 00:15:55.97\00:15:58.55 to remember is once you have lost weight exercise 00:15:58.58\00:16:01.97 can help you to keep that weight off 00:16:02.00\00:16:05.10 but it may not be as powerful as a total plant diet, 00:16:05.13\00:16:11.16 that's the kind of thing that is coming out of 00:16:11.19\00:16:13.38 this research. Now we want to look at 00:16:13.41\00:16:15.57 another important dietary principles 00:16:15.60\00:16:17.90 if you want to have sustain weight lost 00:16:17.93\00:16:20.36 and that's bring us to our next slide, 00:16:20.39\00:16:22.14 our next peace of data that we discovered 00:16:22.17\00:16:25.53 there at the Lifestyle Center of America 00:16:25.56\00:16:27.78 in our follow-up study was that there was 00:16:27.81\00:16:30.12 a difference in number of days of red meat 00:16:30.15\00:16:33.65 consumption between those who lost 00:16:33.68\00:16:36.08 about 30 pound at the end of one year 00:16:36.11\00:16:38.20 and those who lost just about two and a half pound 00:16:38.23\00:16:41.36 at the end of one year. This was 00:16:41.39\00:16:43.72 statistically significant difference in the 00:16:43.75\00:16:46.45 number of days eating red meat. 00:16:46.48\00:16:48.88 As you can see those who lost about 00:16:48.91\00:16:52.08 two and half pounds at the end of one year, 00:16:52.11\00:16:53.87 they were eating red meat about, staying 00:16:53.90\00:16:55.78 away from red meat I should say about 00:16:55.81\00:16:57.72 six days a week, but those who had 00:16:57.75\00:17:01.18 the greatest weight lost at the end of one year 00:17:01.21\00:17:03.13 almost 30 pounds, they were essentially off 00:17:03.16\00:17:06.04 red meat every day. 6.9 is awful close to 7, 00:17:06.07\00:17:09.77 that's the whole week isn't that. And it's 00:17:09.80\00:17:11.45 lot of difference there as you can see 00:17:11.48\00:17:13.18 only really about one day but it made it differences 00:17:13.21\00:17:15.76 statistically.02 p- value so there is something 00:17:15.79\00:17:21.45 going on there with red meat and those who stayed 00:17:21.48\00:17:24.91 away from it essentially the entire week 00:17:24.94\00:17:27.70 for a year, they actually had the greatest 00:17:27.73\00:17:30.85 amount of weight loss. So that's something else 00:17:30.88\00:17:32.64 you may want to consider. What is it about 00:17:32.67\00:17:34.49 the animal products that tend to make it 00:17:34.52\00:17:36.88 hard loss weight? Well of course one of the 00:17:36.91\00:17:40.12 things Dr. Guthrie is that animals products 00:17:40.15\00:17:43.45 are much higher in fat content typically 00:17:43.48\00:17:46.84 and they are also much lower in water 00:17:46.87\00:17:49.47 content and they have absolutely no fiber, 00:17:49.50\00:17:52.10 and so those are the secret ingredients 00:17:52.13\00:17:56.00 of the plants, the water, the fiber, and the 00:17:56.03\00:17:59.09 low amount of fat that can actually help 00:17:59.12\00:18:02.03 you sustain weight loss not just for a short period 00:18:02.06\00:18:06.03 of time but for the long haul. 00:18:06.06\00:18:07.51 Basically the only plant foods that are 00:18:07.54\00:18:09.90 high in fat are the nuts and seeds. 00:18:09.93\00:18:12.14 They are about 80 to 90 percent fat, 00:18:12.17\00:18:14.05 so that's why you want to use them more 00:18:14.08\00:18:15.82 sparingly. But looking at the beans, 00:18:15.85\00:18:18.05 the whole grains, fruits and vegetables 00:18:18.08\00:18:20.10 they are actually less than 10 percent fat 00:18:20.13\00:18:23.48 and only one percent saturated fat. 00:18:23.51\00:18:26.29 So plants are really works out. 00:18:26.32\00:18:29.50 Now I am sure a lot of our listeners 00:18:29.53\00:18:32.11 have may be thought themselves to be vegetarians 00:18:32.14\00:18:37.92 and what we call a lacto-ovo vegetarian diet. 00:18:37.95\00:18:41.65 Did we find any thing about that in our 00:18:41.68\00:18:43.34 follow-up data. Well yes we actually looked 00:18:43.37\00:18:47.06 at that, Wonnie Carbow is actually the individuals 00:18:47.09\00:18:51.71 who does our follow-up studies there at the 00:18:51.74\00:18:54.65 Lifestyle Center for America and he actually 00:18:54.68\00:18:56.78 tracked this. He actually found the number of 00:18:56.81\00:19:00.17 individuals who were loosing the most weight, 00:19:00.20\00:19:01.97 how many days they were on a lacto ovo 00:19:02.00\00:19:04.29 vegetarian diet which is of course plant 00:19:04.32\00:19:06.67 based diet where you eat milk and eggs 00:19:06.70\00:19:09.26 and perhaps cheese and he compared that 00:19:09.29\00:19:11.61 with individuals who lost the least weight, 00:19:11.64\00:19:14.23 and really that was no statistically significant 00:19:14.26\00:19:17.28 difference. So in another words being on a 00:19:17.31\00:19:20.32 lacto ovo vegetarian diet or using milk eggs and 00:19:20.35\00:19:24.33 perhaps cheese and even though you are 00:19:24.36\00:19:26.36 vegetarian that wouldn't give you an edge 00:19:26.39\00:19:29.70 as far as our individual patients are concerned. 00:19:29.73\00:19:33.23 Able to keep the weight off over a whole 00:19:33.26\00:19:35.40 years.Over a long period of time, I don't know 00:19:35.43\00:19:38.20 you may not be entirely aware of nutrition 00:19:38.23\00:19:42.29 research but a year follow-up is quite a 00:19:42.32\00:19:45.06 good period of follow-up for a dietary 00:19:45.09\00:19:47.99 type study. Yes. 00:19:48.02\00:19:49.39 So this is some significant findings 00:19:49.42\00:19:52.50 and actually was kind of exciting about 00:19:52.53\00:19:54.31 this data is that it came at the suggestion of 00:19:54.34\00:19:57.58 one of our guests. You know we were collecting 00:19:57.61\00:19:59.93 this data, one of the guests said have you 00:19:59.96\00:20:02.15 ever looked at what the differences are between 00:20:02.18\00:20:04.94 those who loose the least amount of 00:20:04.97\00:20:07.65 weight over time and those who loose the 00:20:07.68\00:20:09.89 most weight over time and it can a hit us 00:20:09.92\00:20:12.07 wow we haven't, lets do that and so this 00:20:12.10\00:20:14.99 are some of the things that we are learning. 00:20:15.02\00:20:16.71 Exciting to see it happen not just 00:20:16.74\00:20:19.59 that rapid weight lost but a long term 00:20:19.62\00:20:22.37 keep it off kind of a weight loss. 00:20:22.40\00:20:24.85 There is some problems from crash dieting, 00:20:24.88\00:20:27.53 getting the weight off to fast. I remember 00:20:27.56\00:20:32.58 we had a guest at the Lifestyle Center here 00:20:32.61\00:20:35.43 over a year or so ago, middle age teacher 00:20:35.46\00:20:39.11 who came in with diabetes and obesity. 00:20:39.14\00:20:42.23 He wanted to loss weight, that was 00:20:42.26\00:20:45.21 his goal and he said I paid my money 00:20:45.24\00:20:47.31 I am really going to get to it. He threw 00:20:47.34\00:20:49.72 himself at it, he was exercising because he knew 00:20:49.75\00:20:52.18 that was important and he really stopped 00:20:52.21\00:20:54.53 eating as much as he had been before. 00:20:54.56\00:20:58.41 So much so that it look like he was taking 00:20:58.44\00:21:01.44 just bird size portion at meals. 00:21:01.47\00:21:03.89 He came in to see me after a week of the program 00:21:03.92\00:21:08.36 and was so discourage because he had 00:21:08.39\00:21:12.66 after a week of working so hard had 00:21:12.69\00:21:15.57 lost absolutely no weight. 00:21:15.60\00:21:17.72 He said this is terrible, I am putting all 00:21:17.75\00:21:21.36 this effort in and no weight loss. 00:21:21.39\00:21:23.41 Why what's wrong. And I explained to him 00:21:23.44\00:21:26.38 that when people try to loose weight too 00:21:26.41\00:21:29.12 fast their body actually goes into emergency 00:21:29.15\00:21:31.33 mode and starts to fight, wait a minute this is 00:21:31.36\00:21:33.28 danger, this is starvation. 00:21:33.31\00:21:34.88 The next week he said fully he kept 00:21:34.91\00:21:38.08 exercising but he kept, he went back 00:21:38.11\00:21:40.36 to eating normal amounts, the amounts 00:21:40.39\00:21:42.19 everybody around him was eating of 00:21:42.22\00:21:43.82 this plant based diet. Over the next week 00:21:43.85\00:21:47.23 his frown turned to a smile as he lost 00:21:47.26\00:21:50.59 6 pounds. I am sure some of that 00:21:50.62\00:21:53.28 was water, but it finally kicked in. 00:21:53.31\00:21:55.83 You see pulling to many calories away, 00:21:55.86\00:21:58.73 pulling too much food away pushes the 00:21:58.76\00:22:01.59 body into an emergency mode, and it won't 00:22:01.62\00:22:03.76 let people loose weight nearly as easily. 00:22:03.79\00:22:07.78 You can actually decrease the body's metabolic 00:22:07.81\00:22:11.66 rate, yours body's ability to burn calories 00:22:11.69\00:22:15.31 just resting, and that actually can't be 00:22:15.34\00:22:18.72 a sustained effect if you are not careful. 00:22:18.75\00:22:21.18 So you know it's absolutely true that the 00:22:21.21\00:22:24.16 creator invites us to taste and see that the Lord is 00:22:24.19\00:22:29.43 good. We don't have to be deprived. 00:22:29.46\00:22:31.54 We don't have to eat tiny amounts in order 00:22:31.57\00:22:36.22 to be successful at weight reduction. 00:22:36.25\00:22:39.08 We simply need to choose the right categories 00:22:39.11\00:22:42.34 of food and that would be of course the beans, 00:22:42.37\00:22:44.84 the whole grains, fresh fruits vegetables 00:22:44.87\00:22:48.74 and nuts and seeds in moderation. 00:22:48.77\00:22:51.94 so to eat adequate amounts of good quality food, 00:22:51.97\00:22:56.51 we call in nutrient dense because it has 00:22:56.54\00:23:00.25 a lot of nutrition but its calorie weak, 00:23:00.28\00:23:03.48 there is not as many calories in it. 00:23:03.51\00:23:05.97 So you can eat plenty before not get 00:23:06.00\00:23:08.70 hungry between meals, not have that 00:23:08.73\00:23:10.64 drop in blood sugar and actually do well 00:23:10.67\00:23:13.10 over the long haul. I have like to tell people 00:23:13.13\00:23:15.67 to aim for about a pound a week that's 00:23:15.70\00:23:20.22 50 pounds a year if you take a week off 00:23:20.25\00:23:22.95 for your birthday and Christmas. 00:23:22.98\00:23:25.09 And its only 500 calories either burned off 00:23:25.12\00:23:28.87 or left out every day about 3500 calories 00:23:28.90\00:23:33.73 per week will be a pound of weight lost 00:23:33.76\00:23:36.96 that's only 500 calories that you either you have 00:23:36.99\00:23:39.76 burned or that you have to reduce 00:23:39.79\00:23:41.76 as far as intake and the best way I tell the 00:23:41.79\00:23:45.06 individuals that the best way to reduce 00:23:45.09\00:23:46.89 your intake by 500 calories is to switch 00:23:46.92\00:23:49.55 to foods that's are 80 percent water 00:23:49.58\00:23:52.44 and are in rich in fiber, its very easy 00:23:52.47\00:23:55.49 to do that. Now Dr. Guthrie we actually have 00:23:55.52\00:23:58.00 another peace of data that we like to share 00:23:58.03\00:24:00.21 about exercise. Many individuals 00:24:00.24\00:24:02.72 are interested in exercise if you just get out 00:24:02.75\00:24:06.82 there and jog more days or walk at a faster 00:24:06.85\00:24:10.58 pace, can you have more sustain weight loss 00:24:10.61\00:24:13.59 to the end of the one year. Well if we look at 00:24:13.62\00:24:15.51 the, at the results of our follow-up study 00:24:15.54\00:24:18.42 over again a one year period what you find 00:24:18.45\00:24:21.23 is that both groups, those individuals 00:24:21.26\00:24:24.41 who lost about two and half pounds 00:24:24.44\00:24:26.90 and those individuals who lost about 00:24:26.93\00:24:29.42 30 pounds at the end of one year, 00:24:29.45\00:24:31.24 they both exercised about the same number of days. 00:24:31.27\00:24:35.94 In fact there was no statistically significant 00:24:35.97\00:24:38.67 difference as you can see here between 00:24:38.70\00:24:41.67 the number of days that the individuals exercise 00:24:41.70\00:24:45.04 who didn't loose so much weight 00:24:45.07\00:24:46.72 and those who did loose a lot of weight 00:24:46.75\00:24:49.49 about three and half to four days of exercise. 00:24:49.52\00:24:52.19 Incidentally that's pretty good for a year 00:24:52.22\00:24:56.01 follow-up individual exercising three and half 00:24:56.04\00:24:59.04 to four days a week, but the point is that exercise 00:24:59.07\00:25:02.57 probably isn't going to give you an additional weight 00:25:02.60\00:25:05.76 loss advantage unless you are out 00:25:05.79\00:25:07.78 there about an hour a day and doing about 00:25:07.81\00:25:10.00 two and half to three miles per hour. 00:25:10.03\00:25:12.80 I would like to point out Tim that 00:25:12.83\00:25:15.23 the medical literature points to long term 00:25:15.26\00:25:18.90 exercise as being very important for keeping 00:25:18.93\00:25:21.78 weight off but our group of people 00:25:21.81\00:25:24.77 had been so well educated that they were 00:25:24.80\00:25:26.57 actually making that change in their life 00:25:26.60\00:25:29.33 and that was not what made the difference 00:25:29.36\00:25:33.17 between the two groups. That's right. Exercise 00:25:33.20\00:25:35.05 is still important. Exactly we want to point out at 00:25:35.08\00:25:37.11 that all of our participants had lost weight at the 00:25:37.14\00:25:41.16 end of one year that is abnormal, its not normal 00:25:41.19\00:25:43.58 to be at lower weight at the end of one year 00:25:43.61\00:25:46.38 in America than when you started. 00:25:46.41\00:25:48.56 And so exercise is important but it may not 00:25:48.59\00:25:52.40 be giving you an edge as far as total weight 00:25:52.43\00:25:57.15 lost at the end of one year. What gives you the 00:25:57.18\00:25:59.08 edge apparently at least from the data 00:25:59.11\00:26:02.56 that we looked at here is it number of days 00:26:02.59\00:26:05.30 on a plant based diet about 6 out 7 on 00:26:05.33\00:26:08.81 a total plant diet and essentially completely off 00:26:08.84\00:26:13.03 of red meat, those with the most powerful indicators. 00:26:13.06\00:26:16.63 Well Tim as I think about being over weight. 00:26:16.66\00:26:22.35 You know sometimes our motive for actually loosing 00:26:22.38\00:26:26.13 weight is so we can look better. 00:26:26.16\00:26:28.85 I mean I want to loose that weight, 00:26:28.88\00:26:31.36 so I can look better. Now may it should 00:26:31.39\00:26:33.45 be different motive may be we should be 00:26:33.48\00:26:35.25 thinking more, so I can actually be 00:26:35.28\00:26:37.20 healthier. But we often look at the external, 00:26:37.23\00:26:41.97 I am thankful that scripture tell us God looks 00:26:42.00\00:26:47.66 at the heart, man looks at the outside. 00:26:47.69\00:26:50.81 I know from studying the physiology that people 00:26:50.84\00:26:55.06 who go into this long slow gradual weight lost 00:26:55.09\00:26:59.43 a pound or so a week using a plant based diet. 00:26:59.46\00:27:02.23 They actually have improvements 00:27:02.26\00:27:04.65 in their physiology. So they are much healthier 00:27:04.68\00:27:09.09 long before they have ever look healthier. 00:27:09.12\00:27:13.01 Well that's actually very true Dr. Guthrie. 00:27:13.04\00:27:16.47 In fact there is a study out of the 00:27:16.50\00:27:18.40 University of Toronto that shows the individuals 00:27:18.43\00:27:20.92 on a total plant based diet for several weeks 00:27:20.95\00:27:24.36 drop there total cholesterol about as much 00:27:24.39\00:27:27.35 as the drug Zocor drop total cholesterol 00:27:27.38\00:27:30.69 about equal in their effect, and also it dropped the 00:27:30.72\00:27:34.27 amount of inflammation in the blood about as much 00:27:34.30\00:27:36.55 as the drug Zocor which is statins like 00:27:36.58\00:27:38.77 medications similar to Lipitor. 00:27:38.80\00:27:40.75 And so a plant based diet brings internal results, 00:27:40.78\00:27:43.99 a long before as you mentioned any external 00:27:44.02\00:27:47.02 result might be seen. We are excited about 00:27:47.05\00:27:50.68 what a plant based diet can do to get 00:27:50.71\00:27:53.35 people healthier. We are indeed Wonderfully Made. 00:27:53.38\00:27:59.74