Hello and welcome to this
segment of "Wonderfully Made"
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I'm Dr. Neil Nedley,
practicing physician,
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and author of a book entitled
"Depression, the Way Out"
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We are going to be
discussing a segment of
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"Depression, the Way
Out" our final segment
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of this 4-part
series here today.
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Depression does not
give any indication as to the
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cause of the disease.
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If I were to have
somebody come in to my office
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with swollen feet, and I
had them leave the office
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with a diagnosis of
swollen foot syndrome,
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that would not really
tell the patient anything...
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other than the fact
that he has swollen feet.
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It wouldn't tell him if
it was due to his heart,
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whether it's due to his kidneys,
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whether it's due to the liver,
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whether it's due to the
lymph nodes, or the veins...
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All of these things can cause
problems with swollen feet.
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But unfortunately, many people
leave a physician's office,
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or psychiatrist's office,
and then the only thing they're
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left with is this
diagnosis of depression.
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That's very similar to
saying, "swollen foot syndrome"
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because it doesn't give
any indication as to the
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cause of the disease.
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If we want to get to
the cure of swollen feet,
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we have to come up with the
reason for the swollen feet.
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If we want to come up
with a cure for depression,
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we have to come up with
the reason for depression.
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And I'm going to show you
10 different hit categories
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that can
actually cause depression.
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Now the brain is a
very resilient structure,
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and can actually suffer
3 hit categories without
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going into depression...
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But once a 4th hit is
there, depression comes about.
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On you're screen, you
will see the 10 hit categories.
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Now, if anyone has more
than 3 of those hit categories,
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that are active or
blows to the brain,
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they will end
up with depression.
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That ought to tell us
that just having the genetics
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for depression will
not cause it by itself.
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And it will also tell us
that some people will suffer
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depression that don't
have the genes for depression.
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So it's not just a genetic
illness, or it's not just
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a social illness.
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In this segment today,
we are going to go through
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some general treatment measures
that can help depression
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no matter what the
cause of depression.
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Before we go into these
general treatment measures,
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I would just like to underscore
one more time; however,
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that it is important to
find the CAUSE of depression
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in order to adequately cure it.
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But just like if
you have swollen feet,
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a diuretic will help
no matter what the cause
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A diuretic meaning a medicine
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that can get rid
of water and swelling.
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So there are some
general treatment measures
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that can help most
people with depression,
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no matter what the cause.
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And so these
treatment measures ought to be
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utilized frequently in
those that are depressed,
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and they can
actually help facilitate
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a cure for the disease.
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The first
general treatment measure
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that I would like
to discuss is MUSIC
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This study was done at the
University of Miami in Florida,
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and it took people who were
depressed, and it actually put
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them on a program
where every 2 weeks,
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they would receive
guided image and music therapy.
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Now guided image therapy
just means that they were
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to think about
images from their own life
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...to think about their own
life, and where they've been
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and where they'd like to
go, as they were listening
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to classical music.
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This was traditional classical
music by Bach and Brahms,
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Ravel was also utilized,
Respighi also was utilized...
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But traditional
classical music that had a nice
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melody and a nice
harmony, nice rhythm,
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but didn't have what
the contemporary classical
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has where it really
often doesn't have any melody
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rhythm or harmony at all.
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Interestingly, it was
utilized in an age-group,
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the 23-45 year-old age group
that had not, by and large,
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been exposed,
seriously, to classical music.
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You'd be surprised how
many people in our society today
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ages 23-45, who have never
been exposed to classical music.
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They've been exposed to
the popular music of the day.
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They've been exposed
to rock and roll rhythms,
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and heavy metal rhythms,
and country music rhythms
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But, other than a jingle
on television here or there
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where there might be
a classical piece being
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played in the background,
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they haven't
seriously been exposed to it.
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So the music was not chosen
because they prefer that music
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If they haven't been
exposed to it, of course,
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they're not going
to prefer it, per se
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But they also utilized
other forms of music for
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the control groups.
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In fact, one control
group had no music played
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to them at all, so they
could really see the difference
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between the groups
here in this study.
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Interestingly, the group
that was being exposed to the
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classical music, and this
was, like I said, every 2 weeks
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but only 6 sessions...
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So this study was
only 12 weeks in length.
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THIS GROUP actually
had significant objective
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improvement in their depression.
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They had improved scores on
their tests of overall mood,
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they reported
feeling less depressed,
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and they also
reported feeling less fatigue,
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and some of the other
symptoms of depression.
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Now, in addition, they had
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objective measures of
depression measured...
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And that was done by
taking a blood cortisol level.
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When many people are depressed,
their cortisol levels will go up
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and that is not a
healthy factor for the body when
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you have too much cortisol.
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A number of even physical
diseases can result from it
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that many people are aware of...
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diseases such as
osteoporosis and ulcers,
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and diseases of this nature.
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And the cortisol levels went
down significantly in this group
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Interestingly, other
forms of music did NOT have
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a beneficial effect as far
as depression is concerned,
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and also interestingly, those
other types of music did NOT
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seem to have an enhancement
in the frontal lobe function
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that is also not only
nice, but I think a requirement
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for those that are
suffering from depression.
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And, I think this study is
certainly one that deserves
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more attention and
more contemplation,
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particularly when you look
at the voluminous studies on
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music and mental health.
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There is only one particular
type of music that repeatedly
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shows both subjective
and objective measures
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of improvement, and
that is music that is of
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the traditional
classical variety.
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And I think even in
our worship services,
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we ought to keep that in mind.
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I've had people ask me in
regards to worship services,
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that as long as there are
religious lyrics to a song,
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it shouldn't really matter
WHAT type of music is being
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played in the background there.
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And really, this would be
very characteristic and similar
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to someone who thinks it
will not hurt them to smoke
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as long as
they're smoking in church!
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And, of course, if you smoke in
church, it's going to harm you
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just like as if you
didn't smoke in church.
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There might be a
little advantage to smoking
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in church... versus smoking
out in the general public,
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because at least you
have some religious things
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that you're contemplating on.
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But the BEST
advantage would be NOT TO SMOKE
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while you're in church...
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And, while you're in church,
the best advantage would be
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to contemplate and have the
type of music being selected
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that is going to uplift the
thoughts, not only spiritually
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...the great spiritual
themes, but to have the music
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that is going to
enhance frontal lobe function.
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Another aspect of
general treatment measures for
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depression is a mental...
for lack of a better term,
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a mental twist that
we actually recommend
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patients undergo.
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This twist is not
something that is brainwashing.
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It actually helps
to, I think, UN-brainwash
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many people with depression.
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And that twist is
avoiding pessimism...
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Now, many people tend
to look at the pessimistic
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side of life.
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This study was done
in well over 200 patients
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at Ohio State
University in Columbus, Ohio
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These subjects were
studies to their degree of
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optimism and pessimism.
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Pessimism predicted anxiety,
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also predicted
stress, physical disease,
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as well as depression.
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What do you think
optimism predicted?
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Well most people would
tend to think that optimism
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predicted the
opposite of those things...
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all beneficial things.
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But really, optimism
predicted NOTHING in this study.
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And as we take a
look at optimism,
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from an objective standpoint,
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more and more,
we're finding that it
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doesn't really predict anything.
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What is the
problem with optimism?
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Well it's not really a
problem since it didn't
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cause problems, per se;
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although it wasn't
near as helpful as those
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avoiding pessimism.
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But when you're too optimistic,
REALITY can set in...
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And when reality
sets in, time after time,
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you realize that your
optimism is really dream world
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and that doesn't really help
the mental or physical being.
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The study's author
at Ohio State University
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mentioned, "While the power on
positive thinking is encouraged
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as a way to improve
health, and well-being,
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this study shows it is
more important to avoid
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negative thinking,
and that's an important
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component to consider.
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Now, what would we do for
a patient who has a tendency
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to look at the
pessimistic side of life?
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Often we will have a
picture up on a screen of
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a mountain setting, but
that is covered in clouds
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and there are some dead leaves
on the floor of the valley
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before the clouds...
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It's still a beautiful scene...
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there are still flowers
blooming in the scene...
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And then we will ask the person
what they think about that scene
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You'd be surprised how many
focus in on the fact that it's
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cloudy, and that there
is dead leaves on the floor
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instead of on the beautiful
aspects of that scene...
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the beautiful mountains,
and the beautiful flowers
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And so it is with life!
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In life, there will
always be positive things to
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focus in on and
negative things to focus in on.
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And throughout a
daily experience,
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you will have
these type of things.
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What are you going
to tend to talk about?
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What are you going to have
your thoughts sifted through?
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It's actually much better
to talk about the positive
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things, and to
discuss these things...
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instead of
discussing the negative things,
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or the things that
are not going so well.
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We have our patients that
have depression actually undergo
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several thoughts... 3
or 4 different positive
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thoughts that they can
think on in a day's time
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and when they catch themselves
thinking on the pessimistic
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side of things, they immediately
switch their thoughts
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to something positive.
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Our mind if of such
that we can only concentrate
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on one grand theme at a time...
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And that's
unfortunate in some cases,
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but actually it's very
fortunate in another...
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And that is, we can
shift our thought processes
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from pessimism to optimism...
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or at least
avoiding the pessimism.
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It doesn't necessarily have
to be an optimistic thought,
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but it shouldn't be
a pessimistic thought.
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This plan that we have
utilized, many patients tell me
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is one of the BEST
SECRETS that they have had
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for getting over their disease.
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Ellen White stated in the
book "Ministry of Healing"
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"It is a positive duty to
avoid melancholic discontented
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thoughts and feelings as
much a duty as it is to pray"
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Now, Ellen White is a
spiritual writer, was very much
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interested in people having
a more active prayer life...
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But she said there was something
JUST as important as prayer,
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and that is AVOIDING
the melancholic discontented
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thoughts and feelings.
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I think that's one of
the reasons why country music
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tends not to score high
as far as mood elevation
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is concerned.
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The guitars are whining,
and the singers are whining
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about their lost dog, or
their crashed pickup truck,
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or their broken up marriage,
or something along this line.
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And that of course, can produce
some melancholic discontented
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thoughts and
feelings down the road
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even though the music, at
the time, might seem to be
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humorous, or might seem
to be something that is light
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or trivial at the time.
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Another area that can
help most depressed patients
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particularly if they have
at least moderate depression
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is herbal therapy.
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Now there are certain
types of herbs that can benefit
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the mental outlook,
and one of those herbs is
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"St. John's Wort"
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You can buy St. John's
Wort over-the-counter in
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virtually any health
food store or any pharmacy
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throughout this nation.
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It's very inexpensive,
and it actually is helpful
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to many depressed patients
in overcoming their illness
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particularly early on when they
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first discover
that they are depressed.
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We recommend St. John's
Wort be consumed twice a day
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and it will improve
mood, but it can have some
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side effects that
you should be aware of.
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In some people, they will
get a skin rash when they're
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exposed to the sun while
they're taking St. John's Wort
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and in other people, it might
elevate their blood pressure
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particularly if they are very
sensitive to tyramine foods.
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Foods such as are
present in cheese that can raise
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their blood
pressure, but most people
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will not have those side effects
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will virtually not even
know they're taking it as far as
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negative side effects,
and can benefit from it.
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Another herb that
helps is "ginkgo biloba"
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Ginkgo biloba will not help
the depression so much as the
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concentration.
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One of the
symptoms of depression is
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lack of being able to
concentrate and make decisions
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in a healthy, analytical manner.
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The ginkgo biloba can help
bring that back to the patient.
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However, it can cause bleeding
when taken with aspirin...
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And so we don't recommend
its usage with aspirin,
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and can RARELY cause some
dizziness in some individuals.
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A 3rd herb, and the
newest kid on the block,
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as far as herbal therapy
for depression is concerned,
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is also the most
potent herb for depression.
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This herb is as potent as
using a standard antidepressant
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medication in most cases.
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The difference is you don't have
to get a prescription for it...
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You can get
this over-the-counter
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It's called "SAM-e" and
it stands for a chemical
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name called
"S-adenosylmethionine"
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Trials of this medication
using up to 800 mg twice a day
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showed that it's very equivalent
to the standard antidepressant
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medications that are out there.
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However, it CAN
increase anxiety levels,
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and in some cases might
increase a blood test called a
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"homocysteine test" which can
act very similar to cholesterol
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in elevating it
in certain cases...
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And so this is something that
you would want to keep in mind
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while you are taking SAM-e.
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Then, of course, there are
the medications for depression.
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As a physician, I prescribe
some of these medications
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for certain individuals.
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I usually do not prescribe them
for mild-to-moderate depression
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But for moderate to more
severe forms of depression
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where the person is starting
to become incapacitated,
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can't really work effectively.
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Where the depression is
really affecting their life,
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I will utilize
medication in these cases.
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The medicines that
are most commonly used are
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the "SSRIs" or the
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"selective
serotonin reuptake inhibitors"
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These medicines some of
you might have heard of...
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Prozac would fall
into this category,
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Paxil would fall
into this category,
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Celexa would fall
into this category,
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Zoloft would also
fall into this category...
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and there's a 5th one called
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"Luvox" that also
falls into this category.
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These medications
will improve mood..
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They'll decrease crying.
00:18:32.00\00:18:33.54
They will decrease
hostility reactions.
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They will increase
social affiliations.
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And because they have
these beneficial effects,
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many people
actually get hooked on these
00:18:41.87\00:18:44.79
medicines
unfortunately, and as a result
00:18:44.82\00:18:47.43
of being hooked
on the medicines,
00:18:47.46\00:18:49.89
they feel like they
have to take them as part
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of their morning vitamins.
00:18:52.09\00:18:53.94
And this really does not have
to be... if they were to find
00:18:53.97\00:18:56.70
the underlying
cause of depression.
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Well, there are some
problems with these medications
00:18:59.74\00:19:02.55
that many people don't
really recognize when they first
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start taking
them, and that is...
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they can also cause
some mental side effects...
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Most common of which is
these medicines increase
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impulsiveness.
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Now you would certainly
not want that to happen
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in you, particularly if you're
just having mild depression.
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An increase of impulsivity
is not generally a good
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mental attribute to have.
00:19:26.54\00:19:29.05
In addition, it can cause
an "I don't care attitude"
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actually decreasing
the alarm responses.
00:19:31.83\00:19:34.86
I have had individuals who
have been on these medicines
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for some time, and then
their spouse dies maybe suddenly
00:19:38.16\00:19:43.57
and they go to the funeral,
00:19:43.60\00:19:45.29
and they can't
even cry at the funeral.
00:19:45.30\00:19:48.82
They know they should be sad.
00:19:48.85\00:19:50.77
They had a good
relationship with their husband.
00:19:50.80\00:19:52.50
It wasn't because they
didn't have a good marriage.
00:19:52.53\00:19:55.37
But the medication was actually
blocking the grief response,
00:19:55.40\00:20:00.56
and it caused an "I
don't care" attitude,
00:20:00.59\00:20:03.34
and that is not
necessarily a good thing.
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This is why we try to take
people off of these medicines...
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Actually, we probably take more
people OFF of these medicines
00:20:10.93\00:20:13.62
than we do put
people On these medicines,
00:20:13.65\00:20:16.19
even though I treat depression
pretty commonly in my practice
00:20:16.22\00:20:21.22
and that is because we
are getting to the root causes
00:20:21.25\00:20:24.54
of the disease, and after
we get to the root causes,
00:20:24.57\00:20:28.40
we can take
these medications off,
00:20:28.41\00:20:30.35
and within 5 to 6 months,
most people can be off these
00:20:30.36\00:20:33.88
medicines and live a
very healthy and happy life,
00:20:33.91\00:20:37.30
and actually feel better without
the use of the medications.
00:20:37.33\00:20:40.49
In addition, these SSRIs
can cause other side effects;
00:20:40.52\00:20:44.16
weight gain, about 8-10
pound weight gain is common
00:20:44.17\00:20:47.49
for individuals taking SSRIs.
00:20:47.52\00:20:50.64
In addition,
gastrointestinal problems...
00:20:50.67\00:20:52.80
Zoloft, for instance,
can cause a lot of diarrhea,
00:20:52.83\00:20:55.20
can cause some stomach cramping
that tends to go away over time,
00:20:55.23\00:20:58.95
and then, it can
even cause insomnia...
00:20:58.98\00:21:02.14
And, very commonly,
these medicines cause
00:21:02.17\00:21:05.05
sexual dysfunction, and
can even decrease libido.
00:21:05.08\00:21:09.76
Then there are other
antidepressant medications
00:21:09.79\00:21:13.61
that are also commonly used...
the "tricyclic" antidepressants
00:21:13.64\00:21:17.04
and I should mention
these because they can also
00:21:17.07\00:21:20.06
be general treatment
measures for depression.
00:21:20.09\00:21:22.62
The tricyclic antidepressants
tend to cause a dry mouth,
00:21:22.65\00:21:25.76
they can cause
your heart to race,
00:21:25.79\00:21:27.67
and they can also
cause some other side effects
00:21:27.70\00:21:31.05
such as drowsiness, and
even heart rhythm problems
00:21:31.08\00:21:34.29
in certain instances.
00:21:34.32\00:21:35.33
We tend not to use
these medicines near as much
00:21:35.36\00:21:37.62
simply because they
have more side effects.
00:21:37.65\00:21:39.62
They also can cause weight gain.
00:21:39.65\00:21:41.89
What are the
tricyclic antidepressants?
00:21:41.92\00:21:44.36
These would be medicines like...
00:21:44.39\00:21:45.84
Elavil, Limbitrol,
Norpramin, Pamelor, Sinequan,
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Tofranil and Triavil.
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And there are actually even
more medicines in that category
00:21:52.17\00:21:56.29
and more generic medications.
00:21:56.32\00:21:58.30
And speaking about medications,
I would like to tell you about
00:21:58.33\00:22:02.57
a study that was done
that introduces another area
00:22:02.60\00:22:06.68
that can help virtually
every depressed patient...
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And that is a
study that involved
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CHRONICALLY-depressed patients.
00:22:13.24\00:22:16.08
Now what's the difference
between acute depression,
00:22:16.09\00:22:18.49
and chronic depression?
00:22:18.52\00:22:19.50
Chronic
depression, by definition means
00:22:19.53\00:22:21.90
you have had it
for more than 2 years,
00:22:21.93\00:22:25.21
and this, of
course, is a major problem.
00:22:25.24\00:22:28.01
There are all sorts
of physical problems that
00:22:28.04\00:22:30.07
can come about as a
result of having depression.
00:22:30.10\00:22:32.21
They had depression
for more than 2 years.
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They were averaging
20 years of depression,
00:22:35.35\00:22:37.50
and they were put
on just 2 therapies...
00:22:37.53\00:22:39.52
a medication called "Serzone,"
00:22:39.55\00:22:42.11
and then a type of
counseling called...
00:22:42.14\00:22:46.31
"cognitive behavioral therapy"
00:22:46.34\00:22:48.48
And I'd like you to
remember that term...
00:22:48.51\00:22:50.43
"cognitive behavioral therapy"
00:22:50.46\00:22:52.07
because it's the only type
of counseling that's been shown
00:22:52.10\00:22:55.13
to be better than
taking a placebo pill.
00:22:55.16\00:22:57.76
Most types of counseling
that are done by psychologists
00:22:57.79\00:23:01.90
across this nation have
NEVER been shown to be better
00:23:01.93\00:23:05.49
than taking a placebo
pill... and that's unfortunate.
00:23:05.52\00:23:08.53
Many people go to their
counselor thinking they're
00:23:08.56\00:23:10.38
going to get help, and
that's because the counselor
00:23:10.41\00:23:13.42
tends to perform a
type of psychotherapy that
00:23:13.45\00:23:16.02
focuses in on PAST
EVENTS in an individual's life,
00:23:16.05\00:23:19.66
and how they've
shaped the present situation.
00:23:19.69\00:23:22.34
And they go back into
having you deal with these past
00:23:22.37\00:23:25.91
life events in a certain
way so that you can finally
00:23:25.92\00:23:28.71
get to the place
where you're not depressed.
00:23:28.74\00:23:31.07
Well it turns out that's no
better than taking a placebo.
00:23:31.10\00:23:33.70
It's an unending process
that continues for a pretty
00:23:33.73\00:23:37.72
long period of time...
00:23:37.75\00:23:39.46
and the unfortunate thing
is people think they're getting
00:23:39.49\00:23:41.92
help, when actually they may
be not getting any help at all
00:23:41.95\00:23:44.99
In fact, sometimes it
worsens their situation because
00:23:45.02\00:23:47.88
it can turn them
against their mother and father,
00:23:47.91\00:23:50.11
and other people in
their life that have been
00:23:50.14\00:23:53.37
trying to help the individual.
00:23:53.40\00:23:56.06
And so the type of
cognitive behavioral therapy
00:23:56.09\00:23:59.59
that was used
focused in on the person's
00:23:59.62\00:24:02.87
individual responsibility...
00:24:02.90\00:24:05.22
NOT on how past events
shape a person's life...
00:24:05.25\00:24:08.68
And WHAT that
person could do differently
00:24:08.71\00:24:11.25
in their own life now.
00:24:11.28\00:24:13.13
That showed that 85% of
patients who went to that type
00:24:13.16\00:24:20.12
of therapy actually
improved with the combination of
00:24:20.15\00:24:25.26
medications and
cognitive behavioral therapy
00:24:25.29\00:24:28.03
That is much higher
than has ever been recorded
00:24:28.06\00:24:30.60
in
chronically-depressed patients.
00:24:30.63\00:24:33.82
Another aspect that
can help virtually every
00:24:33.85\00:24:37.45
depressed patient is a
strong religious faith.
00:24:37.48\00:24:40.01
This study took a look at
intrinsic religiosity versus
00:24:40.04\00:24:44.88
extrinsic religiosity.
00:24:44.89\00:24:47.15
The difference between
the 2 is intrinsic means
00:24:47.18\00:24:49.49
that you actually believe in God
00:24:49.52\00:24:51.12
You believe in His Word.
You have an active faith.
00:24:51.15\00:24:53.81
Extrinsic religiosity
means that you're going through
00:24:53.84\00:24:57.06
the external forms.
00:24:57.09\00:24:58.15
It might be doing the rosary.
00:24:58.18\00:24:59.61
It might be church attendance,
00:24:59.64\00:25:00.97
or some external
form of religion.
00:25:00.98\00:25:03.34
Those with the
INTRINSIC religiosity
00:25:03.37\00:25:05.96
actually scored significantly
better on tests of mood
00:25:05.99\00:25:10.07
after they were depressed...
00:25:10.10\00:25:11.96
And so that means if you
have a strong religious faith,
00:25:11.97\00:25:14.80
you tend to recover from
depression significantly sooner.
00:25:14.83\00:25:18.54
And this goes along even
with Scriptural themes...
00:25:18.57\00:25:20.97
You know there were people
depressed in the Bible times,
00:25:21.00\00:25:23.46
Elijah suffered from depression.
00:25:23.49\00:25:25.42
David suffered from depression.
00:25:25.43\00:25:27.41
There are indications that
other great people in the Bible
00:25:27.44\00:25:32.36
suffered from depression.
00:25:32.39\00:25:33.77
David talked
about his depression,
00:25:33.80\00:25:35.65
and talked how the Lord helped
him through that depression.
00:25:35.68\00:25:39.21
There's a quote from the
Apostle Paul in regards to
00:25:39.24\00:25:42.75
depression...
in Hebrews 12:11-13
00:25:42.78\00:25:47.38
He said, "Now no chastening
for the present seemeth to be
00:25:47.41\00:25:50.30
joyous but grievous"
00:25:50.33\00:25:52.40
That is certainly
true of depressed patients.
00:25:52.43\00:25:55.03
I've had many of them
tell me... they have no joy
00:25:55.06\00:25:57.81
it's only grievous feelings.
00:25:57.84\00:26:00.56
But he goes on...
"Nevertheless, afterward it
00:26:00.59\00:26:03.36
yieldeth the peaceable fruit
of righteousness under them
00:26:03.39\00:26:06.44
which are exercised thereby. "
00:26:06.47\00:26:08.95
Verse 12... "Wherefore lift
up the hands which hang down
00:26:08.98\00:26:12.26
and the feeble knees;
And make straight paths
00:26:12.29\00:26:15.51
for your feet, lest that which
is lame be turned out of the way
00:26:15.54\00:26:19.72
but let it rather be healed. "
00:26:19.75\00:26:22.27
What Paul is saying is...
as a result of this grievous
00:26:22.30\00:26:25.09
experience, you can get
straight paths for your feet,
00:26:25.10\00:26:29.49
end up living a new life,
incorporating new lifestyle
00:26:29.52\00:26:32.65
habits that can make your
life much better than it was
00:26:32.68\00:26:35.58
BEFORE you were depressed.
00:26:35.59\00:26:37.40
And that's what scores of our
00:26:37.43\00:26:38.98
depressed
patients are telling us.
00:26:39.01\00:26:41.90
And, before we close, I would
like to go into the 20-week cure
00:26:41.93\00:26:47.56
that we present in
our book for depression.
00:26:47.59\00:26:51.24
What we do is we take a
look at the 10 hit categories
00:26:51.27\00:26:54.49
that were shown at the
beginning of this program...
00:26:54.52\00:26:57.02
And we actually work on
one hit category at a time.
00:26:57.05\00:27:01.52
If there's an
addiction hit category,
00:27:01.55\00:27:03.84
we'll work on that first.
00:27:03.87\00:27:04.96
The nutrition hits are reserved
for the 2nd or the 3rd month.
00:27:04.99\00:27:08.71
And we get down to as close
to zero hit categories as we can
00:27:08.74\00:27:12.54
and then
medication withdrawal starts.
00:27:12.57\00:27:15.55
If they're on a
medication that's difficult to
00:27:15.58\00:27:17.75
withdraw from, we
tend to switch them over
00:27:17.78\00:27:19.61
to one called "Prozac"
00:27:19.64\00:27:20.98
That one is much
easier to get off of.
00:27:21.01\00:27:23.18
And then usually within
2 weeks to a month's time,
00:27:23.21\00:27:26.08
the individual is off
the medication, and actually
00:27:26.11\00:27:29.21
feeling much better than they
did BEFORE they were depressed
00:27:29.24\00:27:33.36
and certainly much
better than they did while they
00:27:33.39\00:27:35.58
were taking the medication.
00:27:35.61\00:27:38.32
There IS indeed good news
for those that are depressed.
00:27:38.33\00:27:42.03
There is a way
out of depression.
00:27:42.06\00:27:45.33
And that way out includes
finding the cause of depression.
00:27:45.36\00:27:49.74
And also includes incorporating
the lifestyle that can overcome
00:27:49.75\00:27:54.93
this disease and
actually cure it.
00:27:54.97\00:27:57.00