You know the most
exciting thing, Danny,
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is how God continues
to work in this ministry.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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After almost 30 years,
miracles still keep coming.
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And you know, you
told me recently that
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there are bigger miracles today
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than they were
even 30 years ago.
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It has to be. The
needs are so much bigger.
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Yeah.
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We were starting,
you know, infancy,
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but whatever the need
is, God supplies that need,
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so whether it's
small or whether it's big.
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But He does it like I
heard a preacher say one time,
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we have Bruce Fjarli over here.
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Bruce, I'll introduce
you and Mollie Steenson.
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I heard a preacher one time.
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He was preaching and he said
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they were
building on huge addition
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and he said,
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"Folks, we have
all the good news,
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we got all the money we need."
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And all the people were excited,
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praising the Lord.
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He said, "The bad news,
it's still in your pockets"
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And all of a
sudden, they got quiet,
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and he said "Boy,
you got quiet now."
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But no, the good
news is God is in control,
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but He allows us to
help in the ministry.
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It can be
financially, maybe prayerfully,
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so many ways that we can help.
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Some can go and tell,
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and others can
support those who go and tell.
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You know, Danny,
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one of the things you've talked
about is eating an elephant
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which we only do
as an illustration.
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But one bite at
a time. Yeah, yeah.
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Sure.
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And we began some
projects about three years ago.
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All of a sudden,
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we had about 150 of
our low-power stations
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that were all having to
be converted to digital.
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Which is expensive.
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About $50,000 a station average.
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Now when you take 150 stations,
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you just take 100 so
that we only had to do 100.
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That's five
million dollars. I know.
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We figured it's
was going to take about
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$7.5 million to do this.
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We did not have that money.
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I'll be honest with you.
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I lay awake at
night just wondering
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how we're going to do this
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'cause if we didn't do
it within a certain time,
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you lost them.
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But you know,
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God has provided
that one station at a time
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until we are almost finished
with all those conversations.
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Praise the Lord. Amen.
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And we still have to operate it.
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It takes us about $1.2
million every single month
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from those who give
$50 a month, $100 a month,
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whatever they give to
keep the lights on as we say,
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which means literally
keeping us on the air.
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So what we do on
some of these projects
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has to be over and above, Danny,
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what people normally give.
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We don't just shift that
which we give to a project
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if we're giving $100 a month,
then if we're doing a project,
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we want to be a
part of that, Bruce,
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we have to do
something over and above
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what we are normally giving.
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So we saw that take place,
and we're praising God today.
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Amen.
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We're saying, "Lord, our
faith is sometimes so small
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but you are so gracious
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that you have
filled these needs."
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Now there was
another thing we needed to do
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and that was to go tapeless.
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Tapeless conversion.
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Now that has
firstly been completed.
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All the money has been spent.
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There's a little bit of the work
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that's still being done
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'cause it takes a
little time so that project...
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And that was an expensive,
something like $2 million.
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And so that has been done.
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In addition, all of a sudden,
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one day just before
the end of the year,
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a little over a year ago,
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Moses calls me and he
says we have an opportunity
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to buy some
high-definition cameras.
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Now we are not
high-definition yet,
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but we had a chance to
buy these cameras, Danny,
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at an unbelievably low price.
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And he said, "What should we do?
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We've got to let
them know within..."
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And he just gave
me like 20 minutes.
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And we prayed and
we said, "Let's do it,"
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and we bought those cameras.
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Now we're going to be moving,
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and we'll tell you
about that in a few moments,
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towards high-definition.
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What was one of the
other projects, Mollie?
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We needed to
complete the control room
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at our worship center.
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All right.
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And the other one
was a storage building.
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The storage building.
These were five major projects.
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And it was two
or three years ago
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at the board meeting
that you went over these.
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Five major projects
that we have to complete.
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Right.
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And so we're looking
back, this is a praise to God.
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If we just thank God
and you for your support
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because that
building is finished.
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The storage building is done.
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Beautiful building,
completely climate-controlled,
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beautiful storage situation,
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we do all of our
shipping out of there now,
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and all of our
inventory, and so forth.
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So that has been done.
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Now we're halfway
through what needs to be done
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on converting the
worship center control room.
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We need...
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That's about a
million-dollar project.
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We need about
$500,000 more to finish that.
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We have some of
the equipment, Danny.
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We have a board.
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It's high-definition.
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I mean it is state of the art.
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It's actually too big to
put in the truck they said,
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but it's just right
for the control room there.
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And then we've got
several other components
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that we're going to do.
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Yeah, those were
cameras. We have the cameras.
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We need some more
lenses for those cameras,
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High-Def lenses.
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So that's about
another half a million dollars
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that we need to
finish up that control room.
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Now when we do production
now, and I'm talking too much,
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Danny, so bump in here.
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Go ahead.
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But when we do a production now,
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we have to bring our
truck up and hook it up there
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in order to do
production in the worship center
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or to tape into
the Kids Time programs
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or anything that happens
in the Kids studio there.
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We want to be able to
take and do taping there
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while the truck is on the road
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because right
now we can't, right?
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Absolutely.
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And so how can we raise
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the expectations of our people
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so that we can actually
meet those demands, Danny.
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Well, I think going
to the Lord and prayer,
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getting on our knees,
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we had a prayer
here before we start,
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and just asking you
to do the same thing.
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You pray and ask the Holy Spirit
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what He would have you to do.
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And some of you say,
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"You know, I can't do anything."
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Well, then don't do anything.
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I'm sure that God has got
you doing something somewhere.
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So wherever the Holy
Spirit is impressing you...
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But some of you
maybe just like us.
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3ABN's been around
for almost 30 years
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so we just take it for granted.
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SIU University
has been down here
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ever since I've been a kid.
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Southern Illinois,
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I don't think
about supporting it
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'cause it's
always going to be there,
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when I'm dead and
gone, it'll be there.
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But 3ABN's not that way
because we're not part of the,
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you know,
physically the Adventist Church
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or legally we're an independent
self-supporting ministry.
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So the only way we
survive is by those
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the Lord impresses to donate.
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So this is
something we're no longer...
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We're not
considered an institution
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after 25 years are here,
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people think
you're an institution,
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whatever you call it,
but we still have needs.
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But we've always
said from the beginning,
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we never want to beg for funds.
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We won't borrow
money, beg for money,
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we don't want
to do those things.
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And so the Lord
has always blessed,
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but He's done it
through His people.
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And so today, we're here.
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I wanted to talk to
Bruce for just a minute.
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Bruce Fjarli,
you and, of course,
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your dad was on
the board for years,
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your family, your mother, Joy,
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and they had
been great supporters,
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and you've been on
the board for some years.
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And I thought I'd maybe ask you,
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your family has supported
financially, not only 3ABN,
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but building churches
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around the world with Maranatha.
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And about from a giving aspect,
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tell us what it
does for your own life
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when you give and
support the Lord's work.
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I never miss the
money I gave to 3ABN.
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Wow.
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I never miss the money
I gave to the Lord's work.
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And the reason we like to
give to 3ABN and the Maranatha
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is because it's the best bang
for the buck that we can find.
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Wow.
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You guys don't run a
flamboyant ship here.
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You're not making
foolish things happen,
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and squandering
the money around.
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You find projects
that need to be done
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to further the
gospel around the world.
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And we like watching
that and helping with that.
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And I would
encourage the people at home
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to continue to give to 3ABN
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because they're
not under the umbrella
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of a large organization,
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it's a self-supporting ministry,
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and we're the ones that get
the blessing for helping 3ABN.
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God says, "Lay up
your treasures in heaven,
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not here on earth,
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where moth and rust can
corrode and they go away."
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We don't need the money.
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God needs our giving spirit
to help with this ministry.
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It's great we're going HD.
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That'll give us
the opportunities
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to get on the cable stations.
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And I would, again,
encourage everyone to give,
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and remember,
it's a continual thing,
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it's not just a
onetime offering.
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But it's a great place
to do something for Jesus,
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do something for your salvation,
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not that you can buy it,
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but He will bless you
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abundantly more than
you can ever ask or think.
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All right. Praise
the Lord. That's right.
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Mollie, so you've
been here how many years?
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20 some odd?
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Well, I'm in my 20th year now.
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Okay.
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And the things that
are happening today,
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are they more
exciting than in the beginning?
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You know, Danny,
they are more exciting,
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and I was talking with someone
about this the other day.
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The way it seems like
we measure the miracles
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around here are the finances
because that's measurable.
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You can determine
that by looking at
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what comes in and what goes out
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and what the need is.
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But that's not the greatest
miracle of this ministry
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and I know that
you all know that,
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the greatest miracles
are the letters that we get,
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and the emails that we receive,
and the phone calls we receive
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were souls that have come
out of darkness and into light.
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People have made Jesus
Christ the Lord of their life.
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They've come into new
truth that have picked them up
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and just catapulted them
closer to the Kingdom of God,
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into the heart of God.
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And we know those
are the true miracles.
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That's the whole
purpose for this ministry
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to exist in the first place.
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So we don't
want it to sound like
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we're looking at
miracles with the finances
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but someone said the...
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I was talking
with Shawn Boonstra
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on the phone just
a few minutes ago,
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and he said, you know,
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people say that we
shouldn't maybe charge
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for the CDs and DVDs
and that sort of things,
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the gospel ought to be free,
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and he said the
gospel message is free.
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But, boy, it
takes a lot of money
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to get that gospel
message up and out.
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So we don't want to
measure our miracles that way.
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That is just a
measuring stick that we have
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that we can use to
see how God provides.
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Absolutely.
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And to me,
you've already said it,
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but it's about the souls
that are coming to the Lord.
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And we don't go...
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For instance, we
don't want to go High-Def.
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I didn't want to go
high-definition, did you?
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We don't really
want to do these things,
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but in order to keep
up and, in fact, by law,
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our stations, we had to...
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When we upgrade, you
know, we have to do that.
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But nowadays, not only
if you don't have to...
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It's not just because we have to
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but to keep up when
people turn on a channel,
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Bruce, and they
can barely see us
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versus some other
channel on High-Def,
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guess what they
are going to watch.
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Yeah.
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So it's all
something that we do.
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But growth, in everything,
every period of our life,
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there's growth,
whether it's spiritual growth,
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and hopefully
from physical growth
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when we're
growing up, mental growth,
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all of these things,
and it's the same way
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when you start a little baby.
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This is a baby.
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And God has birthed it.
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And as it grows,
it continues to grow.
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We're going to
go through changes.
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We're going to continue to go,
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and God blesses
every bit of that.
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But the end result is
there's not more buildings.
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We don't want to
build a bigger building,
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you know, who wants to
build a bigger building?
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Well, we needed to because why?
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To fulfill your
orders from the call center,
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that when you're
ordering the products
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that are going out
to be witnessing tools,
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evangelistic
tools around the world,
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we got to have a place to
store those and move them.
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Hopefully, they don't sit long.
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But it's all of
that is just growth.
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And that's a praise
report, that's a two hander.
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So when we come to
you, we're not discouraged,
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and, boy, we need
a million dollars,
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you know, to do
all of this, Jim,
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we're excited about it.
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Praise God.
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When there's a need God,
where God guides, He provides.
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And He's going to
do that absolutely,
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no doubt in our minds.
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Oh, yes.
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But we want to
give you the opportunity
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because you ask us about it,
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"How's things going on at 3ABN?"
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Everywhere I
travel, "How's things going?
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How are you doing financially?"
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Well, we're here, that's why
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we can do these
kind of programs,
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and we have a few minutes
here to talk to you about it.
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So we want to thank you
for your love and your prayers
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and financial support of 3ABN.
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This is going
into our 30th year,
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maybe some of you, if
you've never given anything,
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maybe you want to give
$30 a month for one year,
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we're not going to
make you sign a pledge
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or do any of that.
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We just want to
thank you in advance
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for what you do
for the cause of God.
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Amen. You know,
Danny, I'm excited.
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We already have $200,000 gift,
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and towards this million dollars
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that needs to be raised.
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We'll be talking
to you more about it.
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So please be praying
about what you can do
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to be a part of
sending the gospel
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around the world.
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Amen.
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