Have you ever felt an emptiness
that nothing seems to fill?
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Stay tuned to learn about
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the only one who
can fill that void.
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They tried to change
us from the outside in,
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and that's never going to work.
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Because I know that no matter
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how hard and cold
the exterior may seem,
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I know that inside we hurt.
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So we just want to come
and share some hope with you
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and let you know
that we love you,
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and that Jesus loves you
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beyond anybody in this world.
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We're not here today to
judge you or condemn you.
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We're today to tell you that
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we love you and we
understand the situation
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that you're in.
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Hello, I'm Jason Bradley,
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and I'm so glad that
you decided to join us.
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I'm here with Lemuel Vega,
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founder of
Christmas Behind Bars.
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A ministry that
reaches men and women
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that are incarcerated
with the hope of Jesus Christ.
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Lemuel, it's
great to have you here.
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I've had the privilege
and opportunity of going
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behind bars with you.
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We got out the same day,
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but we got to go
witness and minister
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to those that are incarcerated.
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You know, Jason,
I want to thank you
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for your part here at 3ABN
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to share the gospel
worldwide with people
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that are
incarcerated that we can't see.
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But I'm also
thankful for the many miles
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you've made along
with the team from 3ABN
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to come to the jails and prisons
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and let them know
there's hope for their life.
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See it's people like
you that can relate to them.
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It's people like John
Lomacang and Shelley Quinn
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and all these other people
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that maybe never been in prison,
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but they can relate to,
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and they can let them know that
there's hope for their life.
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So a relationship with
Jesus has to start somewhere.
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And it's like I've
told people in the past that
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I believe that this is one
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of the last reachable
people groups are men and women
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that are behind bars.
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Because see, Jason,
they want internal change.
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They've tried to change
whether it's quit using drugs
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or drinking or, you know,
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no one wrote the
judge letter and say,
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your Honor, I
want to go to prison
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for years of my life.
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I want to get rid of my job,
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my house, my wife, my kids,
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and my freedom, I
want to go to prison.
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So their best efforts
have gotten them in a place
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where they don't want to be.
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Donaldson Correctional Facility,
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we were just
there a few weeks ago,
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and that's where you and I...
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They were doing the
program in the chapel,
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and there were people
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that couldn't come
to the chapel, so...
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We ventured out,
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we went through
the dorms everywhere.
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We were all over that
facility. Cell to cell.
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We were just back
there a couple of weeks ago.
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Jason, we want to
simplify the gospel.
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I mean, in my mind,
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we have to make it practical,
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because see if
we can get up there
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and preach some
great theological sermon
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but many people have
never opened the Word of God.
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I mean, some people question
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whether God is
really alive or not,
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because He died on
the cross of Calvary
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so they said, "No, He died.
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He's in the tomb,
how could He be alive?"
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But He promised His disciples,
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He said, "It's
expedient I go into My Father,
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as I go into My Father,
I will send the comforter."
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And so somehow,
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we just want to share
simple things with them.
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Can you say a little bit about
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your thoughts about passing
out packages to those people?
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It's incredible, you know,
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you go in there to
be a blessing, right?
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And to bestow a
blessing upon others,
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but then you come
out more blessed than
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when you went in there.
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It was absolutely amazing
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to see the faces of
the individuals light up.
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And in those packages,
these are like deluxe packages.
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These are premium
platinum packages, right?
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So in these packages,
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they're filled to the
top, you have great snacks.
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I'd be happy to get
one of these packages.
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You have great snacks,
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you have spiritual food,
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and you also have a letter
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and an envelope in there
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that includes
things that can go out
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to all kinds of ministries
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that they can put
back in that one envelope
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and mail to
Christmas Behind Bars.
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They have glow
tracts, Steps to Christ.
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Your mom's actually donated
some books to go into packages
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that we're going to
be putting in this week.
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Jason, this is a...
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Trash can. Trash can.
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Before you go
into the trash can,
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I do want to ask you a question.
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Yeah.
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So why is it important that
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all of those things can go
back into that one envelope?
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That's so the inmate,
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they don't have a
lot of money and stamp
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so they can send it to 10
or 12 different ministries
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that offers
material Bible studies
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in that envelope,
3ABN is one of them.
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They can put one stamp
on there, send it to us,
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and then we
separate it and forward it
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to all the
ministries to save them postage,
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and then they can begin
receiving free materials
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and 3ABN is an
active part of that,
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and we thank you for that.
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That's huge.
There's no trash in that.
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That's premium stuff.
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Now this, we've
got the trash can here.
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It's a trash can.
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Do you have any
scripture that ties in
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with trash or
detrash in our lives?
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Well, you know, I
think that a lot of times,
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we don't recognize our worth,
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because we're not looking at it
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from God's eyes and
God's point of view.
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So I want to share this with you
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from Psalm
139:13-14 and it says,
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"For you formed my inward parts,
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you covered me
in my mother's womb.
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I will praise you,
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for I am fearfully
and wonderfully made.
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Marvelous are Your works,
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and that my soul
knows very well."
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The other thing I
want to share with you
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is Psalm 139:23-24,
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which says, "Search me,
O God, and know my heart,
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try me and know my anxieties,
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and see if there is
any wicked way in me,
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and lead me in
the way everlasting."
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So I'm wondering
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if there's any wicked
way in this trash can.
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You know, at some
point in our life,
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if we have problems
that we need help with,
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we have to be willing to
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at least come to God
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just as we are maybe
filled with trash and we say,
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Lord, would You help me?
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For me it was drug
addiction many years ago,
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sick and ready to die, suicidal,
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went to treatment,
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they wanted to
give me medication
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for my drug problem.
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I said, "No."
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I said, "Dear
Jesus, please help me."
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And He helps us
with that one problem
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and that's what I want
all these inmates to know,
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is no matter what problem
you're dealing with today,
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there's hope for your life,
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and it's through Christ,
is you have that one problem.
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Maybe it's a job,
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maybe it's freedom
getting out of here,
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Lord, help me with that.
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And then you can
trust Him, He'll help you.
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He'll begin to work in
our hearts, in our lives.
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And then we trust Him.
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And finally, it
comes to the point, Jason,
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as you told me seven years ago,
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you just said,
Lord, take it off.
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Take it all.
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You gave your
whole heart to Jesus.
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So it starts, at some
beginning point our lives.
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And you know what?
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He doesn't leave us empty.
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He begins to fill us
with the fruit of the Spirit.
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Yes.
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We have grapes.
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Yes.
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This is analogy
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we just want to use
to let the folk know that
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He doesn't leave us empty.
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He'll take all those old
habits and He begins to fill us
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and give us hope
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and bring reality of
the gospel into our lives.
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And so whether we're at home
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and we're dealing
with whatever it is.
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Problems at home
or problems in prison,
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God will help us
with these problems.
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And we want to say
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thank you for your sponsorship
for Christmas Behind Bars.
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Thank you for your
sponsorship with 3ABN.
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And thank you for doing
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what you can in
your neighborhood
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that you have an
opportunity to bring hope
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to those hurting souls
in your sphere of influence.
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You know you brought out
an interesting point earlier
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because you said when you
were trying to give up drugs
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they wanted to give
you some more drugs.
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Yes. Right?
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It's interesting
that we as human beings,
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we try and fix our problems
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and end up digging
ourselves deeper holes.
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And I'm not saying
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there's not a right
place for counseling
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and perhaps medication
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but if we could
do it without Jesus,
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we would need Jesus
and Jesus is the only,
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He's got to be
the core of everything
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that we do,
whether it's counseling
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or lifestyle,
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Jesus has to be
the center of that.
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Absolutely.
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Because He can
change us from within,
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and He loves us with
that everlasting love.
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As I have
promised these people here.
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They bam bam, they could
do all kinds of wrong things.
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They keep trying to behavior,
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the outside in and it
doesn't work that way.
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As Christ comes in internally,
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the external is going to come
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into the
conformity of the internal.
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So the external
bad things that we do
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or did whatever
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they're going to begin to change
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as Christ is
invited, decisions are made,
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brought into the heart and life,
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the external man,
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humanity is going
to begin to change
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but it changes
from the inside out.
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It doesn't change
just by locking someone up.
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Yes, that's an opportunity
for them to read and study.
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Medication could
have its own place,
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but it has to start
internally and it starts
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with a power
greater than ourselves.
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Yes.
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What inspired you
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to get Christmas
Behind Bars started?
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Well, sick and ready to die,
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I said, "Dear
Jesus, please help me."
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He helped me with
the drug addiction.
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I said dear Jesus progressive.
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I said, "I need a job."
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He blessed me with a job
where I was selling groceries
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door to door to
the Amish people.
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So now I had granola
bars, chips, snacks, cookies,
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granola, I mean, fruit,
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whatever and it was
a pastor's wife's idea
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down at the church that
we were attending to make
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some packages for
these local folk down
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at the county jail
and we made 350 pack.
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I remember the pain.
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I remember the
letters that didn't come,
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I remember you didn't
get fresh fruit in jail.
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I remember the loneliness
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and the internal change
that I so desperately wanted,
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but it wasn't
until I met Jesus that
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the internal
change beginning inwardly,
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and then the
external wanted to reach out
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and help people behind bars.
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Amen.
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How have you seen
that grow over time?
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How have you
seen God bless that?
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Oh, brother, it
started with one jail 350,
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then it went to 500,
and then 800, then 900,
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then 1000, then 1500,
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then 1800,
there was almost 3000.
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And then the prison
where I was in prison was 2000.
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So over the
years, they grew to 3000.
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In that same year,
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it was 3000 plus the
prison where I was in prison.
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And then it went to every prison
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in the state of Indiana.
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And now it's in Arkansas,
and Alabama, and Tennessee.
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I can't begin to tell you,
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but it's not about
how far we've been.
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It's about each and every one
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of these people here
today and you at home
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that will surrender your life
to Jesus and say, "Here I am.
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Please help me one
problem at a time."
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Amen.
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So what you're saying
is that God wants them.
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God wants a
relationship with them.
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God wants to
spend time with them.
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God wants them to come to Him.
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Yes. Absolutely.
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In the Word of God, it
says that we were shaping
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in our mama's womb in iniquity.
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So we were born with
this handicap called sin.
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We were created in perfection.
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In the Garden of
Eden in Christ's image
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we were created.
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Adam and Eve sinned
and so now we're born
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with a handicap
and it's called sin.
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It's not drug addiction,
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not alcoholism,
not whatever it is.
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We're born with
this handicap called sin
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and that's where Jesus comes in
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and He meets us where we're at.
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And my responsibility,
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when we went to prison
was to be a camera person.
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Going into prison was...
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And seeing everything
inside was not exactly
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what I was expecting.
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What impacted me the most
was to see people's reactions.
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See the tears coming
out of people's eyes,
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I guess the
sadness of being in prison
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and realize that, you know,
you've made so many mistakes.
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And I think I
believe as a Christian,
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we all have to be involved
in some kind of ministry.
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And prison is one of the
things that God asked us to do.
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To visit people
in prison and anybody
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that wants to either
just go and visit them
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or have become a
PayPal to one of the prisoners
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is a sacred
experience because many people
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are living without any hope
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just because they
don't know Christ.
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And if you have the chance
to let some of them know that
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there is hope,
there's forgiveness
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and I think is a big
blessing for anybody.
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What would you say to somebody
that is looking to do something
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for the Lord,
but they feel like,
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you know, their past
is still haunting them?
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Pray, God has a special plan
for each and every one of us.
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Whether it's helping
people detrash their lives,
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I don't know what
it is that God has
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for each and everyone,
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but He has a special plan
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for each and
every one of our lives.
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Amen.
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I hope that more
people will get involved
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in spreading the gospel
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and sharing the good news
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of Jesus Christ
and maybe volunteer
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with Christmas Behind Bars
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or one of the
organizations for sure.
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Thank you for what you do,
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and going and sharing this hope
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with the men and
women that are incarcerated.
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Thank you for providing them
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with the spiritual
materials that you do.
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And thank you
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for these wonderful
practical illustrations.
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I can't believe our time
is just about up, Lemuel.
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We want to thank
you for joining us
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and until next time,
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may God richly bless you.
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