Have you ever felt like
your life is just a mess
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and everything
keeps spilling over?
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Stick around for a
shift in your perspective.
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They try to change
us from the outside in,
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and that's never going to work.
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Because I know that no matter
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how hard and cold
the exterior may seem,
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I know that inside we hurt.
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So we just want to come
and share some hope with you
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and let you know
that we love you,
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and that Jesus loves you
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beyond anybody in this world.
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I'm not here today to
judge you or condemn you,
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we're today to tell
you that we love you
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and we understand the
situation that you're in.
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Hello, I'm Jason Bradley,
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and I'm so glad that you could
join us in our jail cell today
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as I talk to my
dear brother Lemuel Vega,
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founder of
Christmas Behind Bars.
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Lemuel, why don't
you take just a second
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to tell us a little bit
about Christmas Behind Bars
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before we go
into the illustration
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and all of that?
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You know, Christmas
Behind Bars is a ministry
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that started to bring hope
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to men and women behind
bars, juveniles as well.
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We make gift packages for
people who is incarcerated.
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When you get locked up,
you don't bring your soap,
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you don't bring your hygiene bag
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or shower bag from home.
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So when you locked up,
you don't have anything.
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They give you a mattress
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and a wool
blanket and that's it.
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And these doors are shut,
your family is on the outside.
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And so that's why
with Christmas Behind Bars,
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yes they
appreciate the granola bars
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and the chips and the snacks,
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but the physical
stuff toothbrush.
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You know, we take
that for granted at home,
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toothbrush,
toothpaste and things like that.
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They don't have real
towels and things like that,
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you know, but we
just want to come.
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The ultimate goal of
ministering to these people
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is let them know that no
matter how far you've gone,
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no matter how
long you've stayed,
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that Jesus will meet
you right where you are.
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Amen.
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You don't have to get all
cleaned up to come to Jesus,
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you don't get out and
take your family to church
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before you come to Jesus.
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You just
realize you have a need.
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And when we're in
a place like this,
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we got a need.
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Definitely and you know,
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even when you're
outside of a place like this,
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there's still a great need.
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And, you know, I
remember the time
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when I got arrested
when I went to jail.
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And I got there,
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I thought there was going to
be a mattress pad in the cell,
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there was no mattress
pad or anything like that.
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It wasn't like I was
checking into a hotel chain.
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They didn't even
give you a blanket?
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No blanket, no mattress pad
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and I had to go to pretrial, so.
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They ripped you off.
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Yeah, I got back,
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we were on
lockdown and everything.
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And I got in there
and I just saw iron
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and had a sheet.
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And that was it.
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That was it.
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It was a rough night.
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So I started, it
started with weed,
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I started smoking a
little weed here and there.
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And then I started
smoking more weed and more.
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And I was drinking
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and then it
started with the ecstasy
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and all of that stuff like
it just was a downward spiral.
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And I got sick.
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You see my appendix
had ruptured inside of me
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and it's sealed
off my intestines
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and those were about to go next.
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I was sitting
there lying in that bed,
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in that hospital bed.
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And I remember laying back
down on that bed not knowing
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whether or not I
was going to live or die
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and saying to God, "God,
if you get me out of this,
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I'll change, I'll do
something different."
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Because prior
going into that hospital,
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I'd started selling drugs too.
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Because God was pulling,
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the Holy Spirit
was pulling at my heart
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trying to get a hold of my life.
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And I finally
surrendered to Him,
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which was the best
decision that I could ever make.
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What I would
love to encourage you,
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if you haven't done it already,
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is to give God a
chance, to accept God,
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accept Jesus as your
personal Lord and Savior.
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It will make all the difference.
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And I guarantee
and His Word guarantees
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that you will not regret it.
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Because look this, this life,
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this is short in
the eyes of eternity.
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So where do you want to be?
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Do you know that these people
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that are
incarcerated like this though,
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their one goal,
their one objective
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is when I get out of here,
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then it's going to be different.
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But the difference
got to start in here.
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That's right.
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Now you said a lot of
people out there in society
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they don't quite
have it together either.
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Mm-hmm. Yeah, we all need Jesus.
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We all need
Jesus. We all need Jesus.
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There are some
people that are incarcerated
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that are freer inside
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than people that
are on the outside
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because they're held
in that bondage of sin.
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Amen, brother.
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You know, I went
back to the prison
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where I was incarcerated.
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And I walked all
the way down the range
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and I went to the last cell
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because it was
my first time back
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in the prison where I've been.
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And I went to the last cell
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and I didn't know what
to tell the guy and I said,
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"I am so sorry
that you're in here
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over the holidays."
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He walked over to
the back of his cell.
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He picked up his Bible
and he walked up to the front
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and we were
having the conversation.
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He said, "I am thankful
that I was incarcerated."
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He said, "I now have a
relationship with Jesus."
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Yes.
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And he was happier,
just like you said inside
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the facility
rather than being free
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and the society standards.
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You know, Jason,
you've went with us
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to many jails and prisons
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and we share analogies
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to make the
practical life's applications
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of a relationship with Jesus.
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That's right. And
it's got to be simple.
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And because I was
a simple minded boy,
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when I was coming
up and if I didn't,
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I just didn't get it, you know.
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And so, if you were to
give an inmate one of these cups
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and you ask the whole audience,
200 inmates to come up,
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which cup do you
think they would take?
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Well, considering the fact
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that they've been
stripped of everything.
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Yeah. They're going
to want the bigger cup.
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The big cup because they could
use that for a lot of things.
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That's right.
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Okay, so the
individual chose the big cup.
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Officer, there, you got
some water available here.
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I'd like you to fill this
cup for me for this analogy.
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So you get the big cup
and we fill that baby up.
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And we just, that's how it is.
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So we got a big cup,
we got what we wanted.
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But wait a minute.
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You know, in life sometimes
we seek those kinds of things
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and then we find it's empty.
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That's right.
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So all of the life we've been
seeking to fill that big cup
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but a relationship with Jesus
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and maybe they've
committed their life to Christ,
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I know there are
audience of 200, 300 inmates
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and maybe they haven't.
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So for those that haven't,
if you just tell them to try,
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try the little, try
and ask Jesus for help.
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Can you put some water
in there for me, brother?
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You know, as we
begin a journey with Jesus,
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it's a little bit at a time.
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Yeah.
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It's fresh water.
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It's not broken, the
cisterns aren't broken.
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The cisterns of
society are broken.
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But our relationship with Jesus
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continues to
fill that inward part.
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And then we as Christians,
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we are able to reach
out and share that hope
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that we have with our children,
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our families, our community.
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And what 3ABN is doing
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is sharing the hope
of God around the world.
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And Christmas Behind Bars,
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we continue to go
in to these places.
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And our cup is overflowing.
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We can promise each
one of those individuals
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to come out to the programs
of Christmas Behind Bars,
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that there is hope
for their lives at all.
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Do you have a scripture
that goes along with that?
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Absolutely.
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Psalm 23:5-6, it says,
"You prepare a table before me
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in the presence of my enemies,
You anoint my head with oil,
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My cup runs over."
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Cup runneth over. That's right.
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"Surely goodness and mercy
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shall follow me all
the days of my life,
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and I will dwell in the
house of the Lord forever."
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That's where I want to be.
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I want to be in
the house of the Lord.
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Brother, you got a
scripture that talks about
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the smart man
and the foolish man.
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Yes, building
your house on the rock.
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In Matthew 7:24,
beginning in verse 24, it says,
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"Therefore whoever hears these
sayings of mine and does them,
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I will liken him to a wise man
who built his house on the rock
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and the rain descended,
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the floods came
and the winds blew
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and beat on that
house and it did not fall,
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for it was founded on the rock.
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But everyone who
hears these sayings
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of mine and does not do them
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will be like a foolish man
who built his house on the sand
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and the rain descended,
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the floods came
and the winds blew
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and beat on that
house and it fell
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and great was its fall."
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Thank you, officer.
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I want to be like the wise man.
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I want to
listen to what God says
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and implement what He is saying
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because I don't
want my house to fall.
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I want a firm foundation.
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And I think that's important.
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The beauty of the gospel
is they will begin sharing
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that with their children.
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They'll reach out as they
come to know who Jesus is.
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And I've tried
to encourage them,
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I say when you call home
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and tell your family you
gave your heart to Jesus.
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I said, don't be discouraged
if they tell you boy,
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I heard that before.
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Or you said that
the last time you.
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I said don't stop there.
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Just keep on studying
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and seeking God's
will for their lives.
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That's right.
That's right there.
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Don't be discouraged by that.
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Some people try and say, "Oh,
it's jailhouse religion." No.
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Like if you know, God's bringing
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about that
genuine transformation
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in the heart continued
pressing down that path
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and don't give up for sure.
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Amen.
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You know, brother,
when I got out of prison,
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after years in a
maximum security prison.
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I really want to change.
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I got out and I
really tried to change
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and it lasted for a little bit.
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I mean, the outward change
was okay for a little bit.
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But then I got to look
around at all the people
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that had fancy clothes
and fancy cars and boats
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and jet skis and all this stuff.
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I said, "Man, I
know how to get stuff."
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But I was
stuffless, I was hopeless.
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At 35 years old,
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I went to treatment for
the first time in my life.
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And the doctors they tell me
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with all their
college education,
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they said, "You need to
take this methadone pill,
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you need to take
this antabuse pill,
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you need to."
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I said, "No, dude, I don't need,
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I want off this
train to destruction."
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So at that point in our lives
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when we realize that
it's internal change.
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Yes.
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When we realize
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we can try and try and
try and try to we just,
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we so tired of
trying, we give up, you know.
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But our relationship with Jesus,
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He accepts us
right where we are,
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no matter how deep it may seem,
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no matter how yucky it may be,
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no matter how
empty you may feel.
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When we come to Jesus and
say, "Dear Jesus please help me.
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I've messed up again.
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I'm in a place I
don't want to be.
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Will You help me?"
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And that's what we
want our viewers to know.
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Would you share with our viewers
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that wherever they
are on this spectrum,
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they may not have
to be incarcerated,
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but that that joy may run
and be filling their life.
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Yeah, you know, Lemuel,
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when I gave my
heart to the Lord.
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I felt a genuine
joy, a genuine peace.
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It wasn't just happiness,
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which is like a
fleeting emotion.
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It was long
lasting joy, it was peace.
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It was purpose,
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there was so much more
that I felt and I experienced
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as a result of my
relationship with Christ.
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And, you know, the
world tries to fill us
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with these temporary things
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that, you know, may
satisfy us for a moment.
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But when we accept Christ
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as our personal Lord and Savior,
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when we walk in His ways,
when we learn more about Him
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and cultivate that
relationship with Him,
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we grow, we grow in that.
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And to experience peace,
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which passeth all
understanding in a world
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where so much is going on,
so much struggle and strife,
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so much pain, so much
suffering so much sorrow.
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Right.
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But yet you still have peace.
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It only comes from God.
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We can't categorize peace.
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We can't dictionary it.
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We can't get it out
of a college degree.
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It's the peace that you said,
that passes all understanding.
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That's right.
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When you gave your heart
to the Lord, what happened?
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Did you get that joy?
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Did you get that peace?
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What happened is I said,
"Dear Jesus, please help me,
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I want to quit but I can't."
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Yeah.
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And I was
thinking drug addiction.
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"Lord, will You
help me with that?"
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And He began to help
me with that problem.
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I still had
withdrawals. It was pain.
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It was awful. It was terrible.
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It was a nightmare.
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But day by day, I
got a little more hope.
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I began to get a
little more peace.
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I began to have
purpose in my life.
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And I resigned
from my factory job.
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I cried, I filled out
a two page resignation.
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I resigned because of
the drugs and the alcohol.
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And now I said,
"Lord, I need a job."
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I prayed ask God to
help me with drug addiction.
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I said, "Lord, I need a job."
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And God gave me a job.
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And you know, now I'm
selling groceries door to door
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to the Amish people.
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And I had all
these snacks and chips
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and granola bars and things.
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And it was the
pastor's wife to have the idea
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of going down to the local
county jail just like this.
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Brother, they
were little packages,
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they were little
lunch sized package,
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had an apple, a
granola bar, loaf.
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But the joy that we
got going down there
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because we knew
Christ was the answer.
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No matter what
you struggle with,
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no matter why
you're incarcerated.
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Yes. He's the answer.
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And, brother,
it grew to two jail
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and five jail and 10 jail.
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And now we can't, we
have never tried to number
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the amount of
packages that we made,
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but we need
sponsorship for Bibles.
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We need
sponsorship for these packages.
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How do people sponsor that?
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Well they could get
online christmasbehindbars.org
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They could send their Bibles
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to Christmas Behind
Bars, new or used Bibles.
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They could buy a
pallet of soap for us
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that we can give
all the inmates soap.
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They could buy a toothbrush.
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I mean, just a
lot of different ways,
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homemade thinking of you cards.
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Yes.
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But we need to partners with us
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for that
furtherance of the kingdom.
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And that means a
whole lot to someone
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that's incarcerated, correct?
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Amen.
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Something really
simple. Amen, brother.
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Thank you. Yes, yes.
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Well, thank you so much, Lemuel.
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Thank you for
all that you're doing
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and taking the gospel
behind the walls of the prisons
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to those men and
women that are incarcerated.
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We thank you and
3ABN for all your support.
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Yes, sir.
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And we just want to thank you
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for your support of
Christmas Behind Bars,
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for your support of 3ABN
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and making these
programs possible.
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Until next time, God bless.
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