What if someone was
willing to do the time
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for the crime
that you committed?
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Would you be loyal to them?
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Stay tuned to learn
about the death row volunteer.
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They try to change
us from the outside in,
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and that's never going to work.
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Because I know that no matter
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how hard and cold
the exterior may seem,
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I know that inside we hurt.
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So we just want to come
and share some hope with you
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and let you know
that we love you,
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and that Jesus loves you
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beyond anybody in this world.
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I'm not here today to
judge you or condemn you,
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we're today to tell
you that we love you
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and we understand the
situation that you're in.
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Hello.
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I'm Jason Bradley,
just want to thank you
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for joining us once
again as you always do.
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I'm here with my
brother Lemuel Vega,
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my brother in Christ.
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Lemuel, we've experienced
a lot together behind bars.
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We get out the same day.
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But we've been able to minister
quite often behind bars.
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But you're still
getting packages into prison.
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Thousands and
thousands of packages.
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You want to talk a little bit
about that death row volunteer?
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Oh, absolutely.
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You know, we've
all been handed down
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a death sentence
as the human race.
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Amen.
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You know, once
sin entered the world,
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we entered into
that death sentence.
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But thank God
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that he sent His only
begotten Son to die for us.
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His only begotten
Son, Jesus Christ,
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to die on the
cross for our sins,
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so that we could have
a shot at eternal life.
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Amen.
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It's a promise.
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It's a promise.
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It says in John 3:16, it says,
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"For God so loved
the world's humanity
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that He gave His
only begotten Son,
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the death row volunteer,
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that whosoever,"
I love this brother,
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"whosoever,"
every nation, color,
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kindred, tongue,
people, that's inclusive.
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"For God so loved the world
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that He gave His only
begotten Son that whosoever,"
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that's all of
humanity, that whosoever what?
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Believe.
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"Believeth in Him
should not perish,
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but have everlasting life."
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And the beauty of
the gospel is this,
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"For God sent not His
son into the world to..."
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To condemn the world.
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"Condemn the world."
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What condemns us?
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Sin.
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We're born with
this handicap called sin.
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So it's sin that condemns us,
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it separates us
from our heavenly Father,
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so God sent His
only begotten Son,
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death row volunteer, I
love that, into the world,
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but that the world through Him,
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death row
volunteer, might be saved.
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Yes.
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What is sin?
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Transgression of God's law.
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God's love letter to humanity.
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He wants us, He beckons us,
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He woos us to follow Him
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in His transgression of the law.
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There's an
analogy that I've used,
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we've used in the past
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and we actually
have a volunteer,
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a group of inmates to come
up, but let's talk about sin.
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Let's talk about
the variations of sin.
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Okay.
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Now, so what do
we... We have sheets here.
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We have sheets.
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We have three sheets, we have
three different colored sheets.
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We'll go and put
that one up there
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and then I'll
hang this one up there
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and this is to represent
the degradation of sin.
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So in our world
today, we rate sin,
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if you do something really bad,
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you go to prison,
you go to death row.
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If you didn't do
something so bad,
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you're just drunk driving,
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then you go to jail
just for a little bit
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or you get some called
probation or something.
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So in our world we vary in sin,
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we give it different
names, different meanings.
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But, Jason, if you were
going to say that one of these,
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these all represent sin,
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if you were to say that one
of these is worse than another,
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which one would be the worse?
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You know, that's a hard thing
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because the
wages of sin is death.
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Amen.
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So all of them are the same.
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If we look at
Romans 6:23, it say,
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"For the wages of sin is death,
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but the gift of
God is eternal life
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in Christ Jesus our Lord."
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So whether it's the individual
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that kills somebody
and is on death row perhaps
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or whether it's somebody
that's just robbed a bank
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or robbed a
Brink's truck or whatever
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or whether it's a
white collar person
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that their life is perhaps
and they think it's not so bad.
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Society might say,
"This is the worst."
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Or, "This might be second.
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This might be third."
But you know what, Brother?
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The Word of God said that...
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"The wages of sin are death."
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Is death.
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Yeah.
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And the volunteer,
the willing volunteer,
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death row volunteer.
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Death row volunteer, yes.
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Now, I want to share
something with you though too
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because it says in
2 Corinthians 5:17,
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"Therefore, if
anyone is in Christ,
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he is a new creation,
old things have passed away,
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behold, old
things have become new."
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So there's hope.
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There's a transformation.
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There's a transformation.
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How did that
transformation take place?
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'Cause we got a lot
of problems right here.
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Oh, we have a lot of problems,
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but we also have
the problem solver.
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And the problem solver
upon the cross of Calvary
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brought humanity back.
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Yes.
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That whosoever...
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Believeth in him
shall not perish.
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Shall not perish.
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But have everlasting life.
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So He cleanses at
the cross of Calvary,
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that's the beginning
point for all of humanity.
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Mm-hmm. Yes.
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So the person that
doesn't know Jesus,
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what would you
say to that individual
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because you and I know
that's the starting point?
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Oh, absolutely.
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We've tried to show the analogy
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to where His
righteousness cleanses us.
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We were sentenced
with a death sentence.
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Yes.
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Adam and Eve, our
great grandparents.
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Death sentence was
pronounced upon them.
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Yes.
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We were born with that
problem called sin and now,
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Jesus came and died,
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that we might have life
and have it more abundantly.
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Mm-hmm.
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Let me ask you a
question, Lemuel.
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When you were, you
know, living a life of crime
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and leading a life of crime
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and breaking the law
and all of that stuff,
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did you have somebody that said,
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"Hey, I want to
take your drug charge.
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Hey, I want to do your time.
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Hey, I want to do
the time for your crime?"
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Did you have somebody
who voluntarily went down
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to the court
house and just said,
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"Hey, I'll go to jail for him?"
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No.
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All your homeboys,
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everybody say
they got your back,
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they'll be there for you
and there was nobody there.
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And for all these
people that are incarcerated,
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there's nobody there to put
bread on their baby's table,
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shoes on their baby's feet,
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to make sure the
electric bill's paid.
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There's nobody
there to take care
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of their people out here
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and there's nobody
there to take care of them.
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But God meets us
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at the worst
moments of our life.
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You know, Jason, I got a
call from 3ABN and they ask us
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if there was this individual,
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he'd just gotten out of
prison and they wanted to know
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if he could come and
help Christmas Behind Bars
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and I'm like,
"Well, yeah, I guess."
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I said I want to know a
little more about the story
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and it's really amazing
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because 3ABN's been
going up to the prison.
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Local prison here
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and they were doing
services on a regular basis
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and we wanted to take
packages to that prison
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because they're
already doing services
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and that's what we want to do.
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And so we made 2000
packages for that prison,
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but what we did, if we
invited each individual,
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we put 2000 invitations,
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one in each bag
and we invited them
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to come out to
the existing services
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that you folks were
holding up at the prison.
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And this individual,
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he got that invitation
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and he started
coming out to the services.
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But in his bag that
he got the invitation,
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he got the book
called the Desire of Ages.
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Desire of Ages, he said,
he began reading that book,
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he said, he had a third
grade education reading level
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and he couldn't
really understand it.
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So you know what he did, dude?
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He got the dictionary out,
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so now he's
reading the Desire of Ages
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and the dictionary.
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Wow.
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And then he began to understand
how Jesus got His strength
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from His heavenly Father.
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He said, I want to
know more about this,
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so he went, he got a Bible.
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So now, he's
reading the Desire of Ages,
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dictionary and a Bible
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and his reading
level went from third grade
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to twelfth grade
within about six months
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and it was just from
reading the Desire of Ages,
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the dictionary and the Bible.
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Wow.
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You know, this
individual came to the services,
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he got a little transistor radio
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and he begin getting 3ABN Radio.
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And that strengthened
him and encouraged him,
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he made a decision for Jesus.
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And when he got out,
he needed a place to go,
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he helped out here
for a short period of time
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and now, David,
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he's driving semi and
he got his CDL license.
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He's doing good, he
committed his life to Christ
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and he's riding
down the highways
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and byways of life now.
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But that's one individual
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that 3ABN has
been able to minister
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to physically
on a weekly meeting
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through the
airwaves of 3ABN Radio,
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combined with
Christmas Behind Bars,
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receiving the
book, Desire of Ages.
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So God is not going to leave
us or abandon us or forsake us.
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He continues to call all people.
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And so at this
time that we live,
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sin, the remedy is at the cross.
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Yes.
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And there's hope.
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God sent not His Son
into the world to condemn us,
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but that we might have
salvation in life through Him.
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Yes.
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What would you say
about the ministry at 3ABN
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'cause I know you
folks are actively involved
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in prison ministry as well?
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Yes.
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I would say that, you know,
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3ABN has been a
blessing in my life
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as well in terms of
growing my walk with the Lord.
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And that's our goal
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is to just point
people to Christ.
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We just want to
point people to Christ.
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It's the Holy Spirit
that convicts and all of that
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and that draws
people to the Lord.
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So we just want to
point people to Jesus.
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And that's how it is
with Christmas Behind Bars.
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You know, we take
thousands of packages
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and, you know, we just pray.
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Physically, we do all we can do,
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putting the packages
together, but we just pray
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that when they open that package
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that their life will be touched
and encouraged for Christ.
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Amen.
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So we're not
looking for numbers,
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we're not asking how many
people have been baptized,
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we just want to
encourage them for Christ.
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That's right. That's right.
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The seed has been planted.
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The seed has been planted.
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The spiritual
material is going out
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and people are
hungry for the gospel,
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and we're
really finding that out
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more and more as time goes on.
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People are trying
to find an explanation
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for what is taking
place in the world.
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You know, with
Christmas Behind Bars,
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we've been talking
about Christmas Behind Bars
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and the impact that
Christmas Behind Bars
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is having.
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But how do
people get to check out
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Christmas Behind Bars?
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Let's say somebody
wants to visit your website?
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What's your website?
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They can go to
christmasbehindbars.org
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Okay.
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Christmasbehindbars.org
Email address
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is
Contact@christmasbehindbars.org
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So email is
contact@christmasbehindbars
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website is
christmasbehindbars.org
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My name's Lori, I'm
at the Boone County Jail
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and I'm a drug addict.
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In 2009, I lost my
brother to a heroin overdose.
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I found him in my garage.
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In 2011, the father
of my kids hung himself
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in this jail actually.
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And in 2014, my
daughter hung herself.
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I found her.
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2015, I found my father dead.
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In 2017, I found my mother
dead after a heart attack.
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So I've lost myself
through that journey,
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I've lost contact with God.
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To take you guys the
time out to come there
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and to spread that
word, I thought was huge
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because a lot of people
just see us as criminals,
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you know, and that's it.
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But we're way more than that,
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we're moms, we're
people's children.
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We are still people and I
think it made us feel like that,
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everybody in the block.
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Like we couldn't
stop talking about it
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and we still talk about it today
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and that was a
couple of weeks ago.
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I've lost my contact with
God, but I'm getting it back.
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I'm definitely getting
it back one day at a time.
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Jason, I want to
tell you something.
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New Castle
Correctional Facility,
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3000 inmates, they told me,
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they have a
regular suicide watch team.
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When someone's
going to commit suicide,
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they put them in a cell
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and an inmate
sits outside that cell
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and able to talk to them.
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If they want to talk,
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they're there to
talk 24 hours a day.
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Now, what they told me,
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they knew Christmas
Behind Bars was coming,
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maybe 4 to 6 weeks in advance
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and they said once they put
that word out in the prison,
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they didn't have nobody on
initiated the suicide watch
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during that time period.
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Why is that?
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Because they had
something to look forward to.
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They knew Christmas
Behind Bars was coming.
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We as Christians in this
troublous time that we live,
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we look forward to
the soon return of Jesus.
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Amen.
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So we must hold on to that hope
would supersede the problems
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that we face on a daily basis.
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Amen.
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And I think that story
really speaks to our need
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for a relationship as well.
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God created us to be
social relational beings
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and so we need
that relationship.
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It's interesting that
they have somebody out there
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24 hours a day.
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We can go to
Jesus 24 hours a day.
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We can pray to
God 24 hours a day.
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24/7.
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Never too busy to hear from us.
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Death row volunteer,
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may we be loyal to Him
as He's been loyal to us.
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Amen.
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And thank God that
He wants to save as many
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as will believe
in Jesus and repent.
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Whosoever.
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That's right,
whosoever believeth in Him.
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Lemuel, thank you so much
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for what you're doing
for the cause of Christ
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and for pointing
people to Christ,
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and we want to
thank you for joining us.
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You know, if you haven't made
the decision to follow Christ,
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make that decision today.
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God bless.
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