Welcome back to the
Ultimate Prescription.
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I'm your host Nick Evenson.
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And on today's program,
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we're talking with Danny Shelton
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about his
experience with bypass surgery.
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And, Dr. Marcum,
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tell us a little bit
about your thoughts on
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how Danny's experience has been.
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Is this common?
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No, it's not.
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A couple of things are uncommon,
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but beneficial.
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One is that most
people aren't as active
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as quick as Danny
has and I tribute that
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he was in such good
shape going into the surgery.
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So that's one thing,
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two, yes, most people
have more side effects
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on the medicines
than even he does.
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And I would suggest
that if you don't feel right,
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don't ignore it.
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You know, and the
faith that Danny has,
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that helped him heal
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much quicker
than most people do.
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I've noticed that
people that have faith,
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not all of them
get better quicker,
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but sometimes it can definitely
help people get better
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because as we talked, you
know, we all have genetics
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and how they
respond is so different.
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So what happened to you is not,
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could have necessarily
representative everybody, okay?
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But we've talked about
some of the complications,
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some of the feelings,
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we've talked
about the medications,
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how we made the diagnosis,
the place for modern medicine.
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But now, I really want
to talk just a few minutes,
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just a couple of specific things
that only Danny knows, okay?
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One is, you know,
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how has your experience
your walk with God changed?
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And two, how does it affect
your approach to serving God?
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Or has it?
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Actually, it has, it's
just made me more aware
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because all of us can get
in a rut no matter what we do.
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And so time to
time, from time to time,
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it's good to
have a wake-up call.
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Right.
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And so I look at
this as a wake-up call.
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That is I mentioned
earlier, every day is a gift.
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And I realize now
there's a good chance
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I may not be here
till the Lord comes
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not that He may be so long,
but I may be gone tomorrow.
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Right. This can happen to you.
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Something else could happen.
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But every day,
you say, "Okay, Lord,
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how can You use me today?"
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Because I realize
I'm here to be a witness.
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He said, "Go ye
into all the world."
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He didn't just
say go Mark Finley
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or Doug
Batchelor, He said, "Go ye."
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So when I'm in
church service I ask people,
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how many ye's are here?
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Let me see your hands?
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So I say unless
you don't have one,
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it should be raised up.
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So we don't put that
responsibility on someone else.
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But here's what I
found out, Dr. Marcum,
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when I'm concerned about others,
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see, God knew this
in His infinite wisdom,
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when He said, "Go
ye into all the world."
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Now does He really need me
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and you to bring
people to Christ?
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Not at all. Why
did He do it? No.
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He did it for our own salvation
because when I'm loving,
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worrying about
witnessing to you,
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I'm not worried
about me, myself and I.
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So when I'm not
worried about me, myself and I,
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there's, I'm certainly relax,
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I'm at peace because
I'm worried about others.
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I'm involved in their life
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mentally,
physically, spiritually.
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And it's such a
healer to be able to do that.
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So I love...
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I talked to people on
planes everywhere we go.
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My wife says, "My
folks just tell me,
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that boy never
meets a stranger."
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You know, I enjoy
people. I enjoy talking.
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And so to me witnessing to
the Lord is for our benefit.
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It's the best
thing we could ever do.
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You can't say people say,
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"Well, I just don't
have the gift of gab.
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I can't talk." I say, "Really?"
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I was at some folk's
home, they had beautiful home.
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They said, "Well, you can
talk but we can't do that.
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I said, "Really?"
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I said, "You
have beautiful home."
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Thank you.
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I said, "Who
purchased it for you?"
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Oh, we did? I said, "How'd you?"
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Oh yeah, we talked to realtor
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and they wanted
this and we got him down.
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I said sound like you
talk pretty good to me.
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Yeah. There you go.
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So you were able to
negotiate when you wanted to
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be able to talk I said,
"You bought your own car.
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So you dealt with the
people. " Yeah. I said, "Okay."
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Go ye into all the world.
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So people do what
my dad used to say,
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"People do what they wanna do."
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My encouragement is
to when this happens,
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whatever happens in our life,
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when we look
outside instead of itself,
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and look outside, we'll
find a peace the Lord knew,
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go ye into all the world.
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He's willing to use us.
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He flows through
us to be a blessing.
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He says, "If I be lifted up
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from this earth will
draw all men unto me."
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So when we do that,
your perspective on life,
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it's you don't have to
worry about getting depressed,
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or get down and
out 'cause you say,
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no matter what the
devil throws at me,
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I'm still, God still loves me.
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He's a mansion
with my name on it,
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your name on it in
heaven already prepared.
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It's a free gift, salvation.
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All we have to do
is accept it. Yeah.
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Then go and tell
what He's done for us.
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Well, that's wonderful because
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that's what we like to focus on.
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And I wanna talk a
little bit about that is,
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you know, you are living
a healthy lifestyle, okay?
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You had God in your life.
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And yet you had
these bad things happen.
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God knows why, of course,
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but how do you feel now?
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Now the way
exercising doing things,
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but the way you feel like
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two months
before bypass surgery,
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have you felt different?
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And, you know, and the reason
I'm asking as everyone says,
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"Well, some people
are reluctant to use
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modern medicine,
modern technology,
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they see that as a weakness.
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You know, they
see that as weakness.
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But I tell people,
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there's a place for modern
technology in keeping us going.
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So God can use us
more, replacing parts,
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dealing with emergencies.
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There's a place for that.
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So do you feel better
after all this has happened?
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Absolutely.
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I had a doctor on
once I was interviewing
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an orthopedic surgeon.
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She said, "There is no
need for doctors anymore.
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I used to think
so. I am a doctor.
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I quit my practice.
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That, you know, it's,
you just trust the Lord."
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And, you know,
doctors, there's you know, it's,
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I couldn't believe I'm
interviewing this person.
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And it's on television, right?
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And I'm thinking she's
gonna give us some good news.
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So I said to her, "So
you don't see any reason."
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And she was dealing
with cancer and stuff.
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Saying, "No, you
don't need a doctor."
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And I said, "Well, let's say
that you leave here right now
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and you go outside in your
car and you get in an accident
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and your arm gets cut off,
which you used to do surgery
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and it's laying in a ditch,
do you not need a doctor."
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I mean, I think you'd want
somebody to come and fix it
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'cause I don't think if
you're vegetarian eating
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and your life, healthy lifestyle
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is gonna get that arm to
come back and grow back on.
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We have to be balanced.
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The devil doesn't
care which side of the boat
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we fall out as just
long as we fall out.
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Right. So the balancing.
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Do I feel better?
Absolutely, I feel better.
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And I'm working, you
know, I'm here at 3ABN,
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weekends we're traveling a lot.
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I know I should slow down some,
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but I'm also
helping build a house.
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You know, and I
love that being outside
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and that's therapeutic for me
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outside in the
summer and this fall,
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been able to do a lot of
work and I'm just enjoying it.
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And I praise God
for every minute.
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That's great, well, you
know, we've talked so much
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about in each individual,
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there's no black
or white genetically
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'cause we're all so different.
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And God heals us different
ways that might be outside.
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And we talked about, you know,
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how things have
changed over time,
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the technology and
bypass has improved so much
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than it was 30 years ago.
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In fact, if your
dad was here today,
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things might
have been different.
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But God chose to
heal him differently.
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Yeah. There you go.
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And lifestyle things, you know,
we focus on so many things,
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but nowadays,
we're having a shift
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where we've talked a
lot about exercise and food,
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but now it's getting
more towards mental health,
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you know, 'cause we know when
the brain doesn't work well.
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When it doesn't do well,
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it again causes our body
to age when it ages enough,
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we have a symptom,
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we have a symptom then
modern medicine can help.
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So there are so many variables
and I think you've given
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some great
insights in the variables.
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Now if a gentleman
has had bypass surgery,
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I think you've stressed
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the importance of
relationships and exercise.
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Are you still
able to be physical
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and do your exercise every
day and stick with that plan?
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Absolutely.
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Just like I did
before, like I said,
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"I've never had a chest
pain and fortunate to this day."
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But everything that I did before
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I'm still able to do and
I climb up down the ladder
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sometime 50 times
a day on top of roof
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and when I'm carrying
stuff and carrying plywood up
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and setting trusses,
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I did a whole
garage trusses by myself,
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24 feet trusses, put
them up, not bragging,
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just saying those
are things I used to do.
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So my wife says,
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"I think you think
you're a whole lot younger now
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since that surgery,
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you seem to be
doing so much more stuff."
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And I said, "Well, I just
didn't have the opportunity
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this house
coming getting outside."
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But now I feel great.
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I would encourage
somebody to do what,
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you know, you're here to tell us
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and I appreciate your program.
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I wanna say that so
much for what you do
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for the cause of God,
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but you're so balanced
because you're bringing in,
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look there is room for medicine,
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sometimes we need it in order
to stay alive and to do things.
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God has given
man that knowledge.
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And so, on the other hand
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you bring us right back
to the Ultimate Prescription
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which is the Lord Jesus Christ
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and so thank you so much
for what you do, Dr. Marcum.
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I'm so thrilled
that you work with 3ABN
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and have for so long on
this and we pray you continue,
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Nick, to do
this type of programs
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that encourage
and strengthen people.
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Well, I wanna, you know,
most people after bypass,
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they can go in
your direction, okay?
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But some people also
go the other direction
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of lot of fear and
anxiety every little thing.
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They quit living.
No, we don't do that.
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You know, they live,
"Oh, something's gonna happen.
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You know,
something's gonna happen."
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And, but I think
you brought out a great
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biblical prescription
that in all things give thanks.
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Just giving
thanks and I've noticed
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that people after bypass
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after I've had a health problem,
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I'm more thankful. Yeah.
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Thankful for
the trial. Oh, yeah.
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Thankful for God.
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Thankful for today,
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thankful for the
ability to serve.
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And in that thanks
itself, you know, ask, you know,
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when we come in for
God, what's He ask us?
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He doesn't ask us
for supplications first
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He says, you know,
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thanks and
praise for us, you know,
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and just that can sometimes
help bring us to higher.
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Because it benefits us. Yeah.
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He doesn't,
He's not narcissistic
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needs all this praise.
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He knows that
when we praise Him,
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it's healing for us.
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Praise and thanks.
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And that just gives us
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back to these
words in the Bible.
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You know, our last, all times
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and it gives us hope
today and for tomorrow.
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Nick? Yeah.
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I'm just reminded that God
doesn't want us to live in fear
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but to live the life
more abundant by praising
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and enjoying your
relationship with Him.
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And Dr. Marcum, biblical
prescriptions is part of that.
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Let's share today's
biblical prescription.
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What I try to do is I
try to look in scripture
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for biblical prescriptions
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that have
evidence-based medicine
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that changes us.
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So I look for the
evidence and then teach people
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how to apply it to life.
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It doesn't necessarily
treat things that are,
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you know what,
you know emergencies
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and things that wear out,
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but it helps maybe slow
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the process
down but it gives us,
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points us back to the
hope we have in eternity.
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So today, I'd like
to share James 1:5.
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And this is something I
try to do as a cardiologist.
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And I wanna encourage all of our
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viewers out there to do this.
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Well, James 1:5, "If
any of you lack wisdom."
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I lack wisdom on a daily basis.
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The more I learned,
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the less I know and
more humble I become,
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"Let him ask of God,
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who gives to all
liberally and without reproach,
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and it will be given
another gift to him."
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So God is full of gifts
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to those that are
humble enough to admit
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that I lack wisdom.
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Okay.
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So, you know, I look
at my life and, you know,
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as in service and all
of us look at our life and,
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you know, what does God
say is a biblical prescription.
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If you lack wisdom, ask me.
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That's a biblical prescription
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'cause when you know
where to go for help,
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that again turns
down your stress,
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your anxiety, it teaches you,
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you know, God, I need
wisdom on this situation,
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you know, how
should I handle this?
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Teach me your way.
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So I think that's a
wonderful biblical prescription
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that we can have in all the...
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If any of you lack wisdom,
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and I think everyone
lacks wisdom every now and then.
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Except, Nick, you lack
wisdom? Every single day.
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And I think the
more life goes on,
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the more I realized, you know,
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there's so much we do
not know about the earth,
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about God, about
even our spirituality
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every day that I walk with God,
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I learned something
new and I'm humbled.
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You know, I realized
that I have bad genes.
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I need a savior. There you go.
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Constantly, I need a
savior for everything.
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So I need
wisdom to help in life.
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So I think that's a great
biblical prescription, Nick.
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Well, we've got
to wrap it up here.
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But, Danny, thank you
so much for sharing with us
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again today on the
Ultimate Prescription.
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And, viewers, if
you'd like more information
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or you have questions about
some of what you heard today,
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visit our website at
HeartWiseMinistries.org
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and you can also download
our Biblical Prescriptions app.
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And that will give you
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a 10-minute
Bible study every day,
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teach you back into the Word,
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and help you discover
healing through God's Word.
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Dr. Marcum will be
with us in just a moment
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to close the
program with prayer.
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We've heard a
wonderful testimony today.
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And God uses
each of our testimony
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to help uplift
the body of Christ
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'cause we're all
here to serve each other
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that leads us to
the chemistry of love.
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We'd like to have a
prayer with you right now
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that God comes into
your heart in a special way.
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So we bow our heads.
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Father, God, as the
Holy Spirit infuses us,
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we wanna thank You for using us
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in whatever way
even using us in illness
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to glorify Your name.
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We wanna thank You
for the promise of healing
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as long as we walk with You.
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Now go with us this day.
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Stay close to us
is our prayer. Amen.
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If any of you
might have questions
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that we can help you with,
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I encourage you
to go to our website
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at HeartWiseMinistries.org.
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