The following program
presents principles designed
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to promote good health
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and is not
intended to take the place
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of personalized
professional care.
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The opinions and ideas expressed
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are those of the speaker.
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Viewers are encouraged to
draw their own conclusions
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about the information presented.
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Cardiovascular
disease is a common case
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for many folks these days,
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whether due to
genetics or lifestyle practices.
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Today, we'll hear
firsthand from Danny Shelton,
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Founder of 3ABN
about his experience
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and how God has used this
as a blessing in his life.
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Thanks for joining us today
on the Ultimate Prescription.
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Welcome to the
Ultimate Prescription.
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I'm your host Nick Evenson
here with Dr. James Marcum,
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practicing
Cardiologist and special guest
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and Founder of
3ABN Danny Shelton,
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welcome to the program.
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Thank you. It's good
to be back with you again.
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You know, we
talked in our last program
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about the
experiences that people have,
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that the genetics
sometimes were out
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we have a symptom and
when we have a symptom,
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we shouldn't ignore it, okay?
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And I think we
learned last time about
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how Dan was
really proactive in this,
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you know, you stayed on
the treadmill even more,
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you know, a lot of
people wouldn't have done that.
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And they picked up the
problem and they went through
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the surgery and this program,
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we wanna specifically talk about
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how God uses our
health misfortunes
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to increase our
ministry and the changes inside
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and, you know,
God uses these things
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for whatever reason,
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you know, we
think more horizontal,
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but God sees vertically.
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He sees from beginning to end.
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And so let's talk about
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we've got you
out of the hospital.
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How has this
changed you as a person?
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Well, every day is a gift.
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We realize that and
I've said it before.
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But you really realize that
after this because as you say,
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when you know
people who've gone through
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the exact same thing,
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but they didn't make it
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or maybe they died
just a month or two later.
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Mine, I don't know if
it's been 15 months or so,
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but the beauty of it is,
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if I die tomorrow,
I'd have no regrets.
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I done this all,
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this last 15
months has been worth it.
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My family, the
ministry, God has put us in,
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I wouldn't have
given this up for nothing.
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So thank you,
Lord, for this time
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and whatever we
get ahead is a gift,
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but hey, when it's
all over, you know,
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should we not
live till Lord comes,
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we're only asleep for
a moment in the ground.
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Next thing we see
is the face of Jesus.
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So we're winners,
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as long as you
accept Jesus Christ
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as Lord and Savior of your life,
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and you're
willing to go and tell
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what He's done for you.
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Our greatest asset is
our own personal testimony
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what God has done for us.
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Not what we read
or tell somebody,
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nobody can argue
with my testimony
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or your testimony
or your testimony.
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So when you have that
relationship with Jesus,
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all you have to
do is go tell him
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what He's done for you.
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And long as we do that
we've submitted committed our,
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you know, life to Jesus.
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We have nothing but good ahead.
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I mean, it's we win.
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That's right.
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Have you ever asked
the question why me, Lord?
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Now what I say is why not?
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Okay.
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I say why not me?
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In other words, there
are 6.5, 7 billion people
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on planet earth.
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My dad just tell
me when I was a kid,
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dad I really wanna do,
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I really, he'd say, son, I
think something so important.
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He said, just look at your life.
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You're a speck of
sand on this earth.
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You're no better
than anybody else.
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You're no less
than anybody else.
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But whatever happens to you,
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the Bible says
"Rain's gonna fall
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on the just as
well as the unjust."
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So that's not important.
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What's happening
right now is not important,
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the important decision
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you can make is
serving the Lord.
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So that when the short 10 years,
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50 years, 100 years is
over, you have eternity.
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So for me, why not?
The devil is out to steal,
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kill and destroy.
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Dr. Marcum, if we didn't,
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and, Nick, if we
didn't experience sin,
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we wouldn't appreciate heaven.
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We would see no reason
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to serve the Lord
if we were gods here,
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and we could
live and everything.
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But when people get down,
and you go through, you know,
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circumstances and trials,
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that's when you
become, suddenly you say,
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"Well, how immortal or
how mortal I really am."
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Immortality only comes later.
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So now what happens to
me when I die by the way?
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You know, we got
everything going our way,
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money, job, everything
we want, we get independent.
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And then all of
a sudden things go,
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but so these are good things.
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In the valley, He
restores our soul.
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So praise God. Nobody enjoys it.
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You're going
through crisis is not fun.
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But on the other hand,
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if it's for purification
gold refined in the fire.
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Hey, let's do it. Yeah.
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Now I've taken
care of lots of patients
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and sent people for bypass.
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I've never had it.
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So I don't really
know what it feels like.
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But many of my patients
come back saying, you know,
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that they've changed
inside they're more emotional,
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a lot of them have
more fears and anxieties.
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Have you had some of those
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natural feelings
after the bypass?
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Just shortly afterwards,
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maybe while I was
still taking some strong
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medicine like
amiodarone, I think,
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a few of those, your
emotions can do things
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and I think that has
to do with your sleep.
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I had to do that
for a few months.
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Once I got off of that.
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My everythin seemed
to go back to normal
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and maybe better.
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The thing I
experienced 13 days I'm home.
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And I do a video
with my wife on Facebook.
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People are
asking, how you doing?
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And I say, "The
Lord has blessed.
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Thirteen days later and
I'm dressed in my clothes.
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I'm sitting up
in the worship room.
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And telling how good God is
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and how He
brought me through it."
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And I put down the
video go sit in the kitchen
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about an hour or two later,
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I feel my pulse.
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Suddenly, my neck
is doing like this
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you can actually see
it and my pulse is racing.
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You know everything, my
blood pressure is going up
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and bottom numbers almost
120 and that's what worries me
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more than the
top number so much,
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you know, so it
was only 180 or 190
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whatever but bottom
number 120 and raising.
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My pulse is up to
around 170 or 175.
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And mine's always slow.
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I'm 60, you know there
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that so we went to
the hospital, Carbondale.
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My wife took me down there.
They did all kinds of stuff.
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And it didn't help, didn't stop,
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and then
actually they said well,
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his heart starting to pause now.
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So now we got
to quit everything.
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And so they just kind
of sedated me some and...
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So you've developed
atrial fibrillation?
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AFib, yes.
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So that happened
but by the next morning
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about seven in the
morning it just went back
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into sinus rhythm.
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And it's been good ever since,
I haven't experienced that
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all these months
later, or a year,
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you know, nearly
year and a half, whatever.
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Now I have a question with you
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and everyone's a
little bit different.
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Do you think it
would have been beneficial
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to know all the
things that could happen
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after the surgery, you know,
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some of the things happen,
some of the things don't,
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but atrial fibrillation
is a very common thing
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after surgery 'cause, you know,
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we manipulate the atrium,
it takes some time to heal too.
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Heart failure
building up fluid in the lungs
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and not getting the
lungs to expand in short,
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it's very common,
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not sleeping well at
night is very common,
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not going to the bathroom
quite as well is very common.
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Do you think a
physician should tell patients
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all that 'cause
I've sort of, you know,
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'cause you have
to know your patient,
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some people if
it's not gonna happen,
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why scare them?
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You know, what do you
think it'd been beneficial
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to know that this could happen
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or just know that
you need to get help
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if something doesn't feel right.
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Every surgeon, every hospital
ought to have this program,
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the Ultimate Prescriptions
to give to each patient
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before the surgery
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because what you're
doing here is incredible.
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And you're exactly right.
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I wish somebody would
have told me all these things.
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They don't
wanna be too negative,
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they're afraid you
don't want the surgery,
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but they don't wanna
promise you too much either.
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So you're kind
of in this window,
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you ask somebody
that, "Well, I'll ask him."
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He tells you this.
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You ask somebody else,
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they give you a
totally different,
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you know, so now you
don't know what to expect.
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So it yes.
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So you think
knowledge would help relay this.
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Tremendously.
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So I try to tell people,
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you know, after
the bypass surgery,
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it's natural for your
heart to go fast sometimes.
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And if it does
happen, here's the algorithm.
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Don't panic because
that's gonna make things worse.
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Just say, "You
know, do some deep breaths
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that hasn't gone
away in 30 minutes,
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you need to go the hospital."
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And in the hospital,
we can take care of that.
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As long as
you're not passing out
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and breathing okay,
it's not gonna kill you,
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but we need to deal with it
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'cause this is a
common complication
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after we have bypass surgery.
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So you feel that would
have helped you out some?
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Tremendously, yeah.
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And they did a
great job actually.
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Now yours went away on its own?
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Is that correct?
Well, I think so.
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I don't know what
they would give me,
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it just didn't work that night
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but during the night
Yvonne sat there and she said,
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you know, you
finally went to sleep.
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And then about 7 o'clock
they came in and said okay...
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And sometimes though it
doesn't go away so quickly,
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and we do have to do a procedure
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called a cardioversion
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where we shock the
heart back in rhythm.
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Yeah, I was dreading that.
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And we usually, lot
of doctors don't say,
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but a lot of these
medicines that we use
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after the bypass surgery,
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they're just there
until the body heals.
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And sometimes the doctors
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can take away
them one at a time.
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And then which medicines we
use long-term to help slow down
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genetic aging depends on
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the side effects
a person might have.
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Did you have any medicines
that didn't agree with you?
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Oh, yes.
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Yeah, and sometimes we have that
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and you just say
what the symptoms are.
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And we can stop that
and try something else.
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And it seemed to me
this one particular medicine,
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it even affects you emotionally.
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Like your mind will say
things or you might say things
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that you wouldn't normally say,
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and you don't really
realize it at the time or later,
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you say, "Well, I
made a dumb decision.
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Why did I think this,
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but I noticed as
soon as I got off of it,
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it wasn't very long."
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I don't know if
two weeks, three weeks,
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all of a sudden, I'm
back to being normal.
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And I didn't, I'm
not been one person
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in my life to get depressed.
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But if anybody
has that tendency,
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I would think
some of this medication
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could get you
depressed so prepare for that.
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But understand that every day
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you got to stay
close to the Lord.
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And that's your answer
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'cause He's gonna give you peace
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in the midst of the storm.
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Yeah, and that's such
a wonderful promise...
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That's a wonderful
peace to have that.
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So after the bypass surgery,
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I know you probably got
going a little bit quicker
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than your doctors
would want you to get going.
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I didn't.
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Did they tell you that
you shouldn't do heavy lifting
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and pulling for
about six months?
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Yeah, they did.
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And I tried not to
do that heavy lifting.
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But at walking, I
was when I would go
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to therapy over to Herrin.
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About three days a
week I was on treadmills
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and now always worried about
what everybody else is doing
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'cause I wanted to, you
know, get there that thing
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and you got to be
the best you can be,
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you know, but
that they said fine,
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but don't do the lifts.
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I stayed away from
that. I didn't wanna.
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So you were good patient.
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I have horse feeding stuff.
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But, you know, Jason would
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come over or
somebody else and say,
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"Hey, let me put that
horse feed as 50 pounds and so."
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I did stay away from
that out this chest thing.
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I didn't wanna mess with that.
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I know you. It's wired
shut. So I paid attention.
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You know, where the bones take
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about six to
eight weeks to heal.
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Yeah.
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So if, you know, like
if you had a broken arm,
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you put it in a cast.
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We can't put the
whole body into cast.
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We have to have
that healing time
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that the patients
do and that's a natural
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feeling to have aches and pain
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in that area till the
bone, the sternum heals up.
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My surgeon said before
you really do everything
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that you've done
before you're very active.
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It could be 12 to 18 months.
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Yeah. So don't, like,
I always welcome my hands
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for my grandkids
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and every class reunion
since I've got out of school.
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I always welcome my hands.
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They'll say, "Hey, can
you still walk on your hands?"
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I did had had my
50th one few months ago.
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It was the first time I
didn't, I was tempted to try it.
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But I said, "No, no, I'm
letting this thing heal."
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And so maybe the
next one Lord willing,
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if I'm still
there, I'll be able to,
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so those puts a lot
of stress and pressure
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here and weight, but
I'm not doing any of that.
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I play a little
basketball but not too much.
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We're gonna talk about
the basketball and, you know,
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anything that
causes this grunting
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type thing surges
the blood pressure,
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and these surges in
blood pressure causes
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parts not to last as long.
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Nick?
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Yeah, I was just gonna ask
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how long till you get
back to playing basketball?
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Well, I don't always know
I'm not been back full-time
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as I've been helping Jason,
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Yvonne son, our son
now to build a new house.
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So when I get weekends or nights
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we get lights on over there.
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I can go work and also,
but I still go shoot around.
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So I like that.
Okay, that's great.
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We're gonna take a quick
break, but there's more to come
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as Danny shares more about
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this being a
blessing in his life,
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and we'll be back
with more in just a moment
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on the Ultimate Prescription.
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