Year after year we see technology advancing in 00:00:15.84\00:00:18.71 everything from the vehicles that take us to work to the 00:00:18.75\00:00:21.58 toothbrushes that we use before bed. Although technology can 00:00:21.62\00:00:24.52 sometimes have a negative impact on our lives, it certainly can 00:00:24.55\00:00:27.66 be used for our benefit as well. Today we'll discover some of the 00:00:27.69\00:00:31.16 latest advancements in medical tech right here on the Ultimate 00:00:31.19\00:00:34.33 Prescription. 00:00:34.36\00:00:36.23 ¤ ¤ 00:00:36.26\00:00:57.05 Welcome to the Ultimate Prescription. I'm your host 00:00:57.09\00:00:58.52 Nick Evenson here with Dr. James Marcum. Now on today's program 00:00:58.55\00:01:02.26 we're going to talk about a lot of things, yeah, part of which 00:01:02.29\00:01:04.93 is developments in technology in medicine. 00:01:04.96\00:01:07.00 Yeah, medicine has changed a lot and one of the advantages of 00:01:07.03\00:01:11.47 getting older and doing this for many years, you can realize the 00:01:11.50\00:01:15.24 only thing that's constant is change. And in my years, we've 00:01:15.27\00:01:20.18 changed the way we approach medicines, the way technology 00:01:20.21\00:01:22.68 changes and I was thinking about even the way we do health 00:01:22.71\00:01:26.72 programs. You know Nick I've been since 2004 is when I first 00:01:26.75\00:01:30.39 started filming for 3ABN and we started with a program I helped 00:01:30.42\00:01:35.62 with called Wonderfully Made. And we talked about that. Then 00:01:35.66\00:01:39.89 we did one called Bible Rx. That's sort of what we still do 00:01:39.93\00:01:44.73 today. Prescriptions that change our physical health. Yeah. And 00:01:44.77\00:01:49.00 then one of the ones we tried for a while was Heart of Health 00:01:49.04\00:01:52.97 Live. You helped with that one. 00:01:53.01\00:01:54.34 Right, a live call-in, a call-in with health questions and 00:01:54.38\00:01:56.54 general advice. 00:01:56.58\00:01:57.91 Yes, and that was very exciting because at that time internet 00:01:57.95\00:02:00.52 technology wasn't it should be and we'd get people calling in 00:02:00.55\00:02:03.18 from all over with guests and we'd broadcast that for a while. 00:02:03.22\00:02:06.35 I remember we had some other calls from other continents and 00:02:06.39\00:02:08.56 other countries. 00:02:08.59\00:02:09.92 Yeah, other countries would call in and sometimes the connections 00:02:09.96\00:02:12.39 were good and sometimes they weren't so good and then I 00:02:12.43\00:02:15.43 remember then we started the Ultimate Prescription you know 00:02:15.46\00:02:18.90 and of course that focus was on you know the Ultimate 00:02:18.93\00:02:22.20 Prescription. You know, there's a place for modern medicine, 00:02:22.24\00:02:24.44 there's a place for lifestyle so the ultimate prescription is 00:02:24.47\00:02:27.81 that relationship we have with Christ, because that is what's 00:02:27.84\00:02:31.41 going to heal us in the end because we all have bad parts. 00:02:31.45\00:02:34.52 And then I got very interested in genetics, you know, what 00:02:34.55\00:02:37.79 causes disease. Why do some people have these things, why 00:02:37.82\00:02:41.52 not? So that's really in my practice at the Chattanooga 00:02:41.56\00:02:44.56 Heart Institute I started really working on disease reversal. 00:02:44.59\00:02:48.06 And if you think about health 30 years ago we were talking 00:02:48.10\00:02:52.97 about much different things than we are now. The trends have 00:02:53.00\00:02:56.37 changed. Think about all the trends out there. 00:02:56.40\00:02:59.71 That all this electronics now that govern a lot of what we do 00:02:59.74\00:03:01.88 in our lives these days. 00:03:01.91\00:03:04.31 So I've learned through the years and even in making these 00:03:04.35\00:03:07.55 programs, you know, the things we've talked about in 00:03:07.58\00:03:10.05 medications and treatments have changed. At one time we focused 00:03:10.09\00:03:13.46 on one thing more than the other Just think about weight loss, 00:03:13.49\00:03:17.29 how that's changed, the recommendations. I remember when 00:03:17.33\00:03:21.16 I started we used to give pills for weight loss and then it was 00:03:21.20\00:03:25.23 work on exercise and nutrition. Now there's these specialized 00:03:25.27\00:03:28.54 diets like the keto diet you know. All these fads are out 00:03:28.57\00:03:31.87 there that sort of come and go. So when I hear of a new fad or 00:03:31.91\00:03:36.18 a new something I say first of all we have to test it with 00:03:36.21\00:03:39.55 scripture. Does it make sense scripturally? And then when I 00:03:39.58\00:03:44.19 talk to people about it, there's a lot of gray in life. Everyone 00:03:44.22\00:03:48.02 thinks there's black and white but the more I study our 00:03:48.06\00:03:50.66 genetics the more I realize there's a lot of gray. Now what 00:03:50.69\00:03:55.13 works best for you, you know, which lifestyle change or what 00:03:55.16\00:03:58.53 thing might work best for you might not work best for Joe 00:03:58.57\00:04:01.67 because Joe has different genetics, different background 00:04:01.70\00:04:04.47 different neuropathways in the brain. And our bodies and the 00:04:04.51\00:04:08.98 treatment for our bodies is much more complicated that I can ever 00:04:09.01\00:04:13.62 imagine. Even in scripture, you know, the more you study 00:04:13.65\00:04:16.95 scripture the more you realize the wisdom in it and how that 00:04:16.99\00:04:21.86 God has biblical principles in there that govern every aspect 00:04:21.89\00:04:25.46 of our lives and there's truth here. So I think it's very 00:04:25.49\00:04:28.66 fascinating to see some of the technological advances. 00:04:28.70\00:04:31.43 So Nick you've probably never been sick before have you really 00:04:31.47\00:04:34.97 Not really sick. Just a little bit sick. 00:04:35.00\00:04:37.24 Have you ever needed modern technology to get you feeling 00:04:37.27\00:04:39.64 better? 00:04:39.67\00:04:41.01 Ah, yeah, I've used antibiotics at times when that was necessary 00:04:41.04\00:04:42.81 and I've had staples and stitches. Fortunately for me, 00:04:42.84\00:04:45.88 that's about the extent of it. 00:04:45.91\00:04:47.58 Well, I've used some through my years too, and what I've learned 00:04:47.62\00:04:52.02 through all these years is that there's a place for modern 00:04:52.05\00:04:55.56 medicine and it's great for emergencies and it's sometimes 00:04:55.59\00:05:00.10 great to replace parts that wear out or get old, but it doesn't 00:05:00.13\00:05:04.20 really fix our genetics, okay? And there's a place for 00:05:04.23\00:05:08.00 lifestyle, okay? And lifestyle is much more than eating good, 00:05:08.04\00:05:12.24 exercising. It's more complicated than that. 00:05:12.27\00:05:14.41 And as we move on we're going to talk about the complexities 00:05:14.44\00:05:17.55 of the bowel. A trillion bacteria in the bowel. 00:05:17.58\00:05:20.15 Go figure. But they're doing all sorts of things from regulating 00:05:20.18\00:05:23.28 inflammation in our brain chemistry. We're just now 00:05:23.32\00:05:26.65 understanding that. And all of the stress in our brains. What's 00:05:26.69\00:05:31.13 that doing to all the neuro pathways in the different parts 00:05:31.16\00:05:33.66 of the brain. It's much more complicated than just black and 00:05:33.70\00:05:37.53 white. Lots of gray for individuals. 00:05:37.57\00:05:39.27 Right. Now I want to interrupt here. You just kind of ran 00:05:39.30\00:05:42.90 through some of the programs that you've been involved with 00:05:42.94\00:05:44.87 through the years. But we need to remind people you're not just 00:05:44.91\00:05:48.01 a TV doctor. You're a practicing physician. How many years have 00:05:48.04\00:05:50.38 you practiced medicine? 00:05:50.41\00:05:53.98 Since 1991. So I've been doing this for quite a while. You know 00:05:54.02\00:05:56.32 we spend a lot of time in school I spent four years of medical 00:05:56.35\00:06:01.29 school at the university. Well before that I did undergraduate 00:06:01.32\00:06:04.09 at the University of Texas in Austin, four years in medical 00:06:04.13\00:06:07.66 school at the University of Texas and then at that time I 00:06:07.70\00:06:10.87 really didn't know what I wanted to do. I thought I wanted to be 00:06:10.90\00:06:12.90 an orthopedic doctor, so I did some time with that. And I was 00:06:12.93\00:06:16.84 hammering on a bone one day and someone said hit it a little 00:06:16.87\00:06:19.74 harder Jim. And I was hitting it harder and I said No I don't 00:06:19.77\00:06:23.41 really want to do this. So I got married at that time and I 00:06:23.45\00:06:27.18 wanted to do family practice but my wife said well why don't you 00:06:27.22\00:06:31.09 do internal medicine. So I studied internal medicine for 00:06:31.12\00:06:34.52 three years and got board certified at that at the Medical 00:06:34.56\00:06:36.86 Center of Delaware in Wilmington and within internal medicine I 00:06:36.89\00:06:41.46 fell in love with cardiology. So I did more training; three 00:06:41.50\00:06:45.07 more years at the University of Kentucky and sort of learn my 00:06:45.10\00:06:48.97 skill and at that time we weren't nearly as specialized 00:06:49.00\00:06:51.57 as we are now. Those were sort of a jack-of-all-trades, you do 00:06:51.61\00:06:56.95 a little bit of everything. But as the years have progressed we 00:06:56.98\00:07:00.58 have in my group cardiologists that just work on one valve. 00:07:00.62\00:07:04.39 We have cardiologists that just help the rhythms of the 00:07:04.42\00:07:07.52 heart. We talked about ablations We have cardiologists that just 00:07:07.56\00:07:10.53 specialize on the arteries that feed the heart. We have 00:07:10.56\00:07:14.36 cardiologists that just specialize on the strength of 00:07:14.40\00:07:16.97 of the heart. Well my specialty, once you sort of outsource 00:07:17.00\00:07:22.37 yourself you just sort of reinvent yourself so not only 00:07:22.40\00:07:24.81 do I sort of manage all these guys, get people in the right 00:07:24.84\00:07:27.74 direction but I really specialize on disease reversal 00:07:27.78\00:07:32.08 and the genetics of medicine. Some of the medical problems 00:07:32.11\00:07:35.22 that we have can be reversed through lifestyle, through 00:07:35.25\00:07:39.59 changes that we can do. So I really help with that and then 00:07:39.62\00:07:42.66 getting people to the right people that can help them. 00:07:42.69\00:07:45.19 But more than that I like to try to really focus on people on 00:07:45.23\00:07:49.03 worship and what God can do eternally because all of us wear 00:07:49.06\00:07:54.50 out some day. No one lasts forever. 00:07:54.54\00:07:56.20 And the great thing is that truth will not change regardless 00:07:56.24\00:07:58.37 of what technology we discover in event that truth is going to 00:07:58.41\00:08:02.78 always be true. 00:08:02.81\00:08:04.15 Right, something you can depend on that's not a fad that we can 00:08:04.18\00:08:06.95 you know, a true north so to speak throughout time. It's so 00:08:06.98\00:08:10.55 hard nowadays with everything out there for people to be very 00:08:10.59\00:08:14.42 confused. 00:08:14.46\00:08:15.79 Yeah. So you've practiced for a long time, you've seen a lot 00:08:15.82\00:08:18.06 of changes and developments in the way that we treat, and the 00:08:18.09\00:08:20.26 technology that's available. Let's go ahead and talk about 00:08:20.30\00:08:23.40 a few of the technology advancements that we see today 00:08:23.43\00:08:27.84 that we'd like to share about. 00:08:27.87\00:08:29.20 Yeah, and these are going to be high tech. We're just going to 00:08:29.24\00:08:32.14 give our listeners an overview just to realize all the 00:08:32.17\00:08:36.21 technology that's out there for acute care medicine and also 00:08:36.24\00:08:40.02 for parts that wear out. 00:08:40.05\00:08:42.52 So there's a really neat video that I'd like to share with our 00:08:42.55\00:08:44.99 viewers here about a new device. I don't know how long it's been 00:08:45.02\00:08:48.49 around, but it's called the impella device and Dr. Marcum 00:08:48.52\00:08:50.39 just talk us through what's going on. 00:08:50.43\00:08:51.76 Well an impella device is a device that's actually inserted 00:08:51.79\00:08:55.56 through the arteries into the heart and it's sort of a micro 00:08:55.60\00:08:58.67 pump and it actually pumps blood from the heart and it has 00:08:58.70\00:09:04.07 a little pump there that you see that pumps blood out into the 00:09:04.11\00:09:06.81 arteries and it feeds the whole body the nourishment that it 00:09:06.84\00:09:10.45 needs including the coronary arteries and basically it takes 00:09:10.48\00:09:14.42 the place of a heart for a short period of time. Now the types 00:09:14.45\00:09:19.55 of patients that we would use this in, okay, let's say that 00:09:19.59\00:09:24.99 someone we're working on the arteries of the heart, okay. The 00:09:25.03\00:09:27.00 arteries are clogged up. We've talked about that before. It 00:09:27.03\00:09:30.07 gets clogged up with fat, okay through a variety of reasons. 00:09:30.10\00:09:34.50 And we need to work on it with a stent. So while we're working 00:09:34.54\00:09:38.34 on that part of the heart, you know, it doesn't pump well. 00:09:38.37\00:09:42.64 You put a stent up in the artery and the heart doesn't get enough 00:09:42.68\00:09:45.71 blood it doesn't function normally and we don't want that. 00:09:45.75\00:09:48.95 So while we're working on these high risk locations in the heart 00:09:48.98\00:09:52.89 like the arteries, or the heart is very weak and working on 00:09:52.92\00:09:56.52 this would compromise it even more we can insert this micro 00:09:56.56\00:10:01.33 pump into the heart which pumps blood for the heart while we're 00:10:01.36\00:10:04.73 working on it. Yeah. Is that pretty interesting? Very neat. 00:10:04.77\00:10:07.54 Now someone says what if we're working on it and something goes 00:10:07.57\00:10:13.94 wrong? Well sometimes that happens and hopefully it's 00:10:13.98\00:10:16.61 rarely, but the patients that we use these pumps on are the 00:10:16.64\00:10:20.62 sickest of the sick. The people that are having heart attacks 00:10:20.65\00:10:23.59 that aren't generating pressure for us. If we don't have 00:10:23.62\00:10:27.49 pressure going to the organs the organs malfunction. Now we've 00:10:27.52\00:10:31.53 talked about the cardiovascular system and if we don't have 00:10:31.56\00:10:35.46 perfusion to the organs, the organs malfunction, kidneys quit 00:10:35.50\00:10:39.53 working. A brain starts working so we need blood flow with 00:10:39.57\00:10:43.54 oxygen and the nutrients, we need waste removal. And even if 00:10:43.57\00:10:47.18 we don't have that for short periods of time organs in the 00:10:47.21\00:10:50.25 body malfunction. So let's say a person's having a big heart 00:10:50.28\00:10:55.45 attack and they come to the emergency room with a blood 00:10:55.48\00:10:57.09 pressure of 60. Now normal is 100, 120. So the organs are 00:10:57.12\00:11:02.36 not getting enough blood. Right. So we go in there and we figure 00:11:02.39\00:11:05.53 well the cause is they're having a heart attack. The artery's 00:11:05.56\00:11:10.30 occluded. So we take them to the cath lab which is where we do 00:11:10.33\00:11:12.80 these procedures. We look and we say Oh no, an artery's 00:11:12.83\00:11:15.90 completely occluded but we're not getting enough blood 00:11:15.94\00:11:19.41 pressure. We give some medicines and we still can't get the blood 00:11:19.44\00:11:21.78 pressure up. Well we might put this device in the heart, the 00:11:21.81\00:11:25.11 impella device, to all of a sudden perfuse the organs until 00:11:25.15\00:11:29.28 we have time to maybe open up the artery to get the heart 00:11:29.32\00:11:32.49 beating more efficiently. Right. Now does this take away the 00:11:32.52\00:11:36.12 cause of disease? No it does not It's great for an emergency. So 00:11:36.16\00:11:41.00 the impella device is for an emergency. So the next question 00:11:41.03\00:11:44.83 someone will ask is what if the heart's still weak after that? 00:11:44.87\00:11:48.40 What else can we do. Well we can't leave that device in 00:11:48.44\00:11:53.34 forever, but sometimes we also have machines that we can hook 00:11:53.38\00:11:56.41 the body up to where they don't need the heart and that's called 00:11:56.44\00:12:00.22 an ECMO machine, a big fancy name for basically we run all of 00:12:00.25\00:12:04.62 blood through a machine that puts oxygen in the blood, helps 00:12:04.65\00:12:08.32 it do good and run it back while we let the heart rest. And the 00:12:08.36\00:12:12.73 ECMO machine is really good for conditions in the heart where if 00:12:12.76\00:12:16.10 we think it can rest from inflammation, or a weak heart 00:12:16.13\00:12:20.10 due to an infection, well we can let that body part rest. Every 00:12:20.14\00:12:23.24 thing needs rest. Without rest sometimes things can heal on 00:12:23.27\00:12:27.94 its own. So an ECMO machine. We also have a device that pumps 00:12:27.98\00:12:31.41 for the heart called the left ventricular assist device, okay, 00:12:31.45\00:12:35.28 where we put that in. But that's usually a bridge to either the 00:12:35.32\00:12:37.92 heart getting better on its own from an infection or till we can 00:12:37.95\00:12:41.46 place a transplant. We can actually put a new heart into 00:12:41.49\00:12:45.53 someone. But we have to have a new heart and donor hearts are 00:12:45.56\00:12:48.46 few and far between. 00:12:48.50\00:12:49.83 So the ECMO is an external device that gets hooked up to 00:12:49.86\00:12:52.50 all the arteries and veins. Is the left ventricular assist 00:12:52.53\00:12:55.27 device also an external? 00:12:55.30\00:12:56.64 Well we put it in the heart and as a pump that it pumps blood 00:12:56.67\00:13:00.68 so it does the heart's work. These are not permanent devices. 00:13:00.71\00:13:05.71 These are either just bridge for either the heart to heal or to 00:13:05.75\00:13:09.82 get a transplant, for us to put a stent in it. So as you can see 00:13:09.85\00:13:13.86 modern medicine has changed dramatically in what we can do 00:13:13.89\00:13:17.06 in emergencies. But you know we want to keep emergencies from 00:13:17.09\00:13:19.93 happening as well and that's going back to some of the things 00:13:19.96\00:13:23.10 we talked about. 00:13:23.13\00:13:24.47 Technology seems like it's best used just as a bridge until we 00:13:24.50\00:13:27.34 can reverse or solve the problem some other way. Yeah. Well 00:13:27.37\00:13:32.84 there's lots more to talk about advancements in medical 00:13:32.87\00:13:36.18 technology on the Ultimate Prescription. We'll be back in 00:13:36.21\00:13:37.55 just a moment with more on technology. 00:13:37.58\00:13:38.91