Welcome back.
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If you're just joining
us, today on the program,
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we're discussing brain health.
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And, Dr. Marcum,
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we were just
discussing before the break
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about modern medicine
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and what it has
to offer in treatment
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for brain health
and mental health.
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Why don't you pick
up where we left off,
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what do we need to know?
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And this is a
very complex subject
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and the specialists in
brains are neurologists,
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they're specialists,
psychiatrists are specialist,
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psychologists, they
get specialized training...
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I'm a cardiologist, Nick.
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So if I had to pick up
what I've learned on my own
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from reading
about different people
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and putting my opinions together
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on how the brain
affects the entire body,
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but I wanna
encourage people, learn more.
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You know, go to the Internet,
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learn more about how
the brain works, you know.
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But what I
tried to understand is
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if you think about
some of the frameworks
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we've talked about
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how our brains
sometimes have bad genes,
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different things,
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stressors
activate those bad genes,
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the organ malfunctions,
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so modern medicine
sometimes focuses on the symptom
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and not at the
cause of the malfunction.
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Right.
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So I want to focus on,
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well, sometimes
we have bad genes
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and there's
nothing we can do, okay?
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And sometimes that's
where modern medicine
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might be able to
benefit in extreme cases
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if the symptom is not as
bad as the treatment, okay?
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Remember, this is
not gonna heal us,
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this just helps our symptoms
'cause we have bad genes.
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You can't take
away everyone's genes
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and put new ones in.
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So modern medicine
is treating the symptom
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but sometimes
that might be worth it
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if the symptoms
creates more problems.
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You follow me?
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Yeah. Okay.
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But we have to be
aware of the side effects,
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both short-term and long-term.
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And I try to say, well,
even if we did it short term,
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is there something we can do
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with a lifestyle change
or a mental lifestyle change
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that would affect it,
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so modern medicine
sometimes does not focus on
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all the stressors of
life that affect the brain.
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Sure. Yeah.
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Simple stressors like
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not getting the
brain enough rest,
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not getting the brain outside.
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In the old days
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if a person had
schizophrenia, in the '50s,
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they would take them to,
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what they called an
insane asylum, you know.
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And those people
with schizophrenia
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at that time,
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they would take
him out in the garden,
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let him rest their brains,
they wouldn't have to work,
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they take it
easy, eat some food,
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and half of those
people would get better
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and not be
disabled or not get...
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So there's something
about just resting the brain.
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I've heard many
anecdotal stories
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about brains under stress
and people taking sabbaticals
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where they'll walk
the Appalachian Trail
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or go out in nature.
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And somehow that rest
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and not keeping
the brain over stimulus
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helps the brain heal on its own.
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Yeah.
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If you think about...
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If you hurt
your arm or your leg,
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you won't keep riding your bike,
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you'd rest it till it healed.
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Well, sometimes the
brain just needs physical rest
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which means turn down
some of the stimuli of life.
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Right.
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And now we have
more stimuli than ever.
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Sure. Yeah.
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We stay up too
late, we stay indoors,
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there's Internet,
there's cell phones,
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some people are checking
their devices every hour,
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not to mention other things
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that we do that
might stress the brain out.
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So modern medicine
sometimes does not focus on that
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and that's something I
think needs to be focused on.
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Sure. Yeah.
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Now as we're
learning about the brain,
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we'd be getting educated
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and that's what led me
back to my real source of truth
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and that's the Bible
and letting the Bible help,
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you know, show that
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where the modern
medicine's appropriate,
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where lifestyle
but understanding
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that we need a Savior,
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our brains need Savior
and only God can do that.
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So we have to incorporate
God's Word into our brains.
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Right.
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That's where the
spirituality takes hold
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and that's where I
think that's a very important
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for the treatment of the brain
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even if we have
to use medicines,
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even if we have
to use lifestyle,
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we want to have that.
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Let me tell you story, Nick.
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You like stories?
Story time is great.
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I love stories.
Story time is great.
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Well, I'll see if I
can remember the story
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because
sometimes I forget stories.
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So you don't know the story,
so you can't help me with it.
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But there once was a
man on an elevator, okay?
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And he had to go
up to the 89th floor.
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And I'm gonna use your
brain to help remember the story
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to make sure you're listening.
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So what floor?
Eighty-ninth floor.
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Eighty-ninth floor.
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And this elevator was
an elevator that went up
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and on the
elevator with him was Jesus.
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Jesus was riding
in the elevator car
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with this man.
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All right. Okay?
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So this man starts
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and he's got to
go from ground one
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all the way to 89, okay?
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So he's going up in the elevator
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and every time it
went up he would fall down,
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he'd fall down, okay?
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And Jesus would
be in the elevator
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and the door would open
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and some people
would come in and out,
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but Jesus would
stay with this man, okay?
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And He would help this man up
every time he fell down, okay?
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He'd just pick
him up and the man,
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you know, felt
bad that he fell down.
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But he, you
know, Jesus was there,
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He picked this man up.
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So they got about to
the 30th floor, okay?
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And the door opened again
and the man fell down again,
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okay?
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Some people came in
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and Jesus
helped pick the man up.
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So He got him
up off of his feet,
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got him ready to leave
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when he got to the 89th
floor to leave the elevator.
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Well, after about 30th the
elevator went down suddenly
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to the 20th floor, okay?
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And the man fell
down again, okay?
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He went down.
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And the man is getting
a little bit discouraged.
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And he says,
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"I'm never gonna make
it to the 89th floor!"
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So the elevator went down,
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but Jesus was
still there with him.
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He fell down again,
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but Jesus helped him up,
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picked him up again,
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you know, got him
back on his feet again.
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So finally, you know,
as the elevator went up
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and occasionally went down,
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but it gradually kept going
up, the trend was going up.
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Finally, he realized that,
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you know, he wouldn't fall down,
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if he would just
hold on to Jesus.
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Yeah.
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So as he went up,
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he says, "Listen,
when the door is opening
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and while it's opening,
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I'm just gonna hold on to Jesus,
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so I don't fall down."
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And as he'd learned
to hold on to Jesus more,
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he fell down less.
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And eventually, he
didn't reached the 89th floor,
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but he kept from falling down,
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and he knew that he was
gonna get there someday.
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Well, when it
comes to brain health
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we're all on a brain
health journey, okay?
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We're all on a journey to
get to the 89th floor, okay?
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'Cause that's
where we want to be,
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that's our ultimate destination.
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We have to start somewhere,
there's gonna be ups and downs,
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and often in life we
fall down quite a bit.
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So you're saying the
89th floor represents
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like optimal brain function
as best as we can get or...
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I'm gonna leave that up to
you to what it means for you.
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Okay, all right, all right.
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I mean what does that mean,
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what's the ultimate place to go.
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Well, that's
where this gentleman
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was heading.
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And Jesus was with
him the whole time,
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even though he
kept falling down, okay?
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So he kept falling down
but eventually, he figured out
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that the only real
true solution was to hold on
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and as he held on,
he fell down a lot less.
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Yeah.
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So as we move through
our ultimate destination
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when we're with
Jesus, we're gonna fall down.
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Yeah.
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But He's never
gonna leave the elevator,
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He is always there with us.
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You know, these
people are going and coming
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and our floors
might go down sometimes
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but He is always on
the elevator with us,
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He is not leaving.
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Right. Yeah.
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He's always
gonna be there if we...
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You know, He's gonna be there.
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But sooner or later, hopefully,
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our brains will
figure out what's going on,
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you know, and these
stresses of going up and down
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aren't the big issue, okay?
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That's not the issue.
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We all have bad genes,
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we're gonna go up and down
in this life that we're under.
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That's not the issue.
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The issue is not whether
we're falling down or not
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because we will fall down.
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Will we figure
out who to hold on to?
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So we get to our
ultimate journey.
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That's the question.
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Are we gonna figure
out who to hold on to
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so we don't quit
falling down as much.
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'Cause the help is always there,
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it's whether we
will activate that.
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Well, the brain
is very complicated.
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Our brains are always
gonna have ups and downs
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as we go through life,
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but are we gonna figure
out where to go to optimize it
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as much as we go to
this ultimate journey
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that we're heading on.
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So I'll let you
just think about that.
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And in my treatment
and with brain health,
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I realize that I
don't understand a lot.
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Yeah.
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The more we
learn, the less we know.
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Yeah. And I'm
gonna fall down a lot.
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All of us are gonna fall
down a lot on this journey,
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but we have someone there
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that's willing to pick
us up every single time.
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That's right. Yeah.
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When the door
opens, He's not leaving us,
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He's not getting
out the elevator,
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He's staying on
the elevator with us.
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And hopefully,
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we will learn to hold on
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as hard as we can
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so we don't fall down as much.
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And the way we
hold on is come to Him
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and say, "Lord, I need a Savior,
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I need You to forgive me,
to help me forget the past,
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I need a Savior.
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I need You to
introduce me to make me clean,
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so I can come in front of God."
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So you can make these changes
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and no matter what
happens to my brain,
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I know that there is one
place I can be safe forever.
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And when I do this regularly,
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it's like
nourishment for my brain
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just like fiber
nourishes the bacteria,
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the good bacteria in the
brain, I mean, in the bowel,
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you know, it makes butyrate.
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So the good
bacteria outweighs the bad.
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Well, when we do this
to worship our brains,
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we now have the
science to show that
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the parts of
the brains can grow,
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the anterior cingulate can grow,
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maybe we can turn off
some of this bad software
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that we're bringing
in from all the stimuli
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that we can't get away with,
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maybe we're
gonna fall down a lot
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on our journey,
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but at least, we know
someone's there to help us,
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and we have
someone to hold on to
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so we don't fall down as much.
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Now, we're also
developing a new tool for folks
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right now,
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the Biblical
Prescriptions worship study,
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and we're
building an app for it.
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Talk just a
little bit about that
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how can that
help people's brain?
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Well, one of the
things that we wanted to do
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so, you know, we talk about,
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well, what's worship and a
lot of people feel discouraged,
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"Well, I don't know
how to worship, I can't.
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You know, how
do I have something
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that I feed my brain
regularly, worship regularly?"
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Well, it's so important,
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you know, we spend so much time
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getting ready for
other important events
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but what is more
important each day
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that we do for our
brains to nourish our brains,
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to grow our brains, to
turn off this bad chemistry
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to help counteract some
of these bad influences,
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to give us something to
hold on to in our worship.
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Right. Yeah.
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So we've developed a
10 minutes intervention,
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we call it,
'cause we're studying it.
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An intervention
something we can do
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are called biblical worship.
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A 10-minute study where they go
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and they get
ready for worship by,
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you know, by saying a prayer,
inviting Christ in their life,
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they have a short text
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that they can put
into their hippocampus,
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the memory center,
so it's working all day.
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There are some
things to be thankful for,
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some things to
praise God for, a chance,
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you know, to have
your sins forgiven,
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and to come into a relationship
and have that start.
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So you want to
learn more and to grow it,
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so we can feed that
part of our brain daily,
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and we can know that
we're in a safe place.
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So we're
developing that worship study,
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a 10-minute study
that can be on an app
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that people can
download, that they can learn.
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And I'm sure people out
there are worshiping already,
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but I found in my office
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you don't take
things for granted, Nick.
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Some people just
don't know things like,
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people that don't
know much about nutrition,
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they don't know much
about modern medicine.
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We can't assume things.
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So I want people
in the brain health
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not to, you know, I
won't assume that they know,
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but I wanna give them something
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that they wanna
move with it they can.
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This Bible study is one
way that we can do things.
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Well, we're now
creating a biblical worship.
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Of course, we want
people to worship on their own
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to find the way God wants
them to worship biblically
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to go to their
churches, to read their...
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We want people
to do all of that,
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but this is just another tool
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that might help people
grow another intervention,
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I like to call it,
another Biblical Prescription
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that's been there all along.
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So we don't fall down as much,
we have something to hold on to
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through the ups
and downs of life
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as we head to
our ultimate journey.
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Yeah.
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Well, we're
about out of time today
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but, Dr. Marcum, thank
you for sharing with us
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about brain health and
how worship can benefit us.
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Yeah, it's very complicated,
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but I just want the big
picture to be known today
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that we want to develop this
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and realizing the
brain is important
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to every decision we make,
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including the
decisions we make in lifestyle,
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the decisions we
make on modern medicine,
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the relationships we
have with God and each other,
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don't ignore the
stress in the brain
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'cause it's a big
control center of everything.
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Yeah.
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And if you wanna learn more
about The Biblical Worship app
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and the 10-minute daily studies,
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signup on our newsletter
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at HeartWiseMinistries
.org/Newsletter
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or just go to the website
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and there's a
button on the front page
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and you can be a part of that
worship study in the future.
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Yeah. So stay tuned.
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Dr. Marcum is
gonna close the program
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with prayer in just a moment,
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and thank you so
much for joining us today.
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Let's end our
program today with prayer,
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Dear Father, we wanna thank You
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for being in the
elevator of life with us
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and picking us up when we fall
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and help us to
learn to hold on to You,
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especially as it pertains
to improving our brains.
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Thank You this day
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and go with us this
is our humble prayer.
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Amen.
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Well, I hope you
have a great day today,
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I hope you've learned
something very important.
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If you need to get a hold
of us or ask your question,
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I wanna encourage
you to go to our website
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that's HeartWiseMinistries.org.
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