The following
program presents principles
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designed to promote good health
and is not intended to take
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the place of
personalized professional care.
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The opinions and ideas expressed
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are those of the speaker.
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Viewers are encouraged to
draw their own conclusions
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about the information presented.
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An ancient Greek physician
from the Age of Pericles
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once spoke the words,
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"Let food be thy medicine
and medicine be thy food."
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This, of course, was spoken
by the father of medicine,
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Hippocrates.
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But you might not have
heard another of his quotes
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in which he said, "Wherever
the art of medicine is loved,
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there is also a
love of humanity."
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And that's exactly our goal
on today's program as we share
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about the
importance of optimal nutrition
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in fighting some of the
most common chronic conditions
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attacking our world today.
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Thanks for joining us here today
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for the Ultimate Prescription,
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a program
dedicated to helping us
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better understand
God's design for our lives
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and experience better
health by following His plan.
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I'm your host Nick Evenson
here with Dr. James Marcum
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for an excellent program today
in which we'll be discussing
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optimal nutrition for
fighting chronic disease.
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Dr. Marcum,
welcome to the program.
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Thanks, Nick.
It's nice being here.
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And we've got some big
words we've thrown out there,
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chronic disease, nutrition,
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and even the
name of the program,
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Ultimate Prescription.
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You know, ultimate
means what's the best,
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the highest you can get,
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what's the highest prescription
you can get in life.
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And that's what
we try to do here.
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We try to show the balance,
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you know, the place
for lifestyle changes,
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especially in
treating chronic disease
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and one of the lifestyle changes
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is improving nutrition.
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We try to point out the
place of modern medicine
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especially helping
with acute symptoms,
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so we can get at
the chronic symptoms
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to slow down some
of this aging process.
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But the ultimate prescription
is neither one of those.
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It's not eating
right, it's not exercising,
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it's not moving,
no one has its place.
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It's not doing bypass surgery,
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and stents, and pacemakers,
and knee replacements,
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and all that
modern medicine does,
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though it has its place,
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the ultimate prescription
is when each one of us,
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you know, can come into
a relationship with Jesus.
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He presents us as
clean in front of God
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when we worship
and we're made perfect,
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that's the healing we
want to point people to,
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that's the path of
ultimate prescription
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that we all want to be on.
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Yeah.
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So that's very exciting to
me to have the ability to talk
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and incorporate
this into healing.
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And I love that quote you used,
where did you get that from?
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Wikipedia.
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Wikipedia, okay.
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You can Google and find
great things on the internet
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provided that you
find the true things.
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So you weren't like
reading a fable book
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or something like that?
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I was Google searching, yeah.
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On Google sort of approach.
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You know, Hippocrates,
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when I graduated
from medical school
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at the University of Texas,
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you know, he had a
quote, "First, do no harm."
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And that we all
had to hear that quote.
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So Hippocrates goes way back
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and some consider him
the father of medicine.
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And the fact that
he made that statement
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so many years ago,
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it's interesting how history
in medicine repeats itself,
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you know, years ago
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some of the ways they
treated high blood pressure
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is very similar
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to what we're
coming around before.
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So we come to the cycles,
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you know, and
it's very interesting,
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you know, at the
time of George Washington,
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for instance,
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you know, they
treated him with bloodletting,
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you know, they
took out his blood.
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And if you want that,
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you weren't in
the club, you know.
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For years, dentists treated
dental pain with cocaine,
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you know, now it's
not used for that anymore,
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but something else.
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Yeah.
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And we think as late as the 30s,
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they were using cigarettes
as a treatment for asthma,
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you know, go figure, you know.
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And it's interesting how I think
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as we look back on to the way
medicine has evolved, and say,
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"Wow, modern medicine
did some great things,
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but it really did some things
that we didn't want to do,"
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you know, it didn't
really get at some of the causes
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that we're looking at.
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And that's why I'm glad
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we're talking about one
of the chronic diseases,
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diabetes, and how nutrition
can be used to treat that.
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That's right.
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You know, before we get
to the diabetes discussion,
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you know, there's
not too many physicians
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that I've heard
with this perspective
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that you have about
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the ultimate prescription
being more of a relationship
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than a procedure and medication.
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Where can folks
go to find out more
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about this idea of
biblical prescriptions
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and following God's
design for our lives?
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Yeah, the website we
have HeartWiseMinistries.org.
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It has a lot of
resources, a lot of books,
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and books I've
written on it including,
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you know, The
Ultimate Prescription.
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Book by the same
title? Yeah, book...
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With this Bible study
Biblical Prescriptions for Life,
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and the best
place they can go at all
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is this book right here,
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where they can actually read
what God says, and pray to God,
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and ask Him to lead in
a life, and worship Him.
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And we're developing for those
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that aren't
familiar with how to worship,
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we're actually
developing worship studies
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where people can
for 10 minutes a day
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begin worship.
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And we have things called
worship warm-up, where it's,
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you know, it's getting
our body ready to worship,
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so our worship could be
optimized when we put...
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Remember, it's not
necessarily how long we worship,
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but how well we worship.
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And when we
worship the true God,
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there's physical
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and chemical changes in our body
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that helps our entire physiology
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that gives us the power
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to do some of these
things we've been talking about
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in Biblical
Prescriptions for Life.
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Yeah, we don't want to just go
through the moment of emotions,
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we want to have
quality experiences,
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worshiping and
then learning about God.
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Yeah, very exciting stuff.
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Well, we are
going to take a question
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from the website here.
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Someone writes in
and ask a question
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relating to diabetes.
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I've been recently
diagnosed with type 2 diabetes,
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and I've heard that
this may be reversible.
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Is this true? And if so, how?
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Yeah, type 2
diabetes is reversible
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in many situations,
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you know, some
genetic cases, maybe not,
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but many cases it is.
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And I've had the
privilege of working
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with some of the
best nutritionist
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in the world today.
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One of them is
T. Colin Campbell.
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And he has an organization
called PlantPure Nation.
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And I recently
was able to answer
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a similar
question on his website,
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so I think we
should just watch that clip
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that might give this
answer in a nutshell.
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All right, let's take a look.
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I'm Dr. James Marcum.
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I just wanted to
spend a few minutes today
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talking to you
about type 2 diabetes.
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A lot of people don't realize
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that in the United States
since 1990, about 29 million,
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that's 29 million
people have been diagnosed
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or undiagnosed
with type 2 diabetes.
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And it's estimated
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by the Centers
for Disease Control
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that by mid century,
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one in three will
have type 2 diabetes.
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Why is this
such a major problem?
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'Cause type 2 diabetes leads
to many other complications,
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heart attacks, strokes,
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damage the blood
vessels in all the body
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which could
cause kidney disease,
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neuropathies, bad
joint circulation,
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and the list goes on and on.
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Our current
treatment really focuses
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on treating the blood sugar
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doesn't really
get it to the cause.
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And there's been lots
of medicines out there.
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And when you talk
to people, they say,
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"Well, let's
start this medicine."
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They don't really focus
on the cause of disease.
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I want to tell you
about the cause of disease
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and put this
thought in your mind,
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so if you know someone
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that's diagnosed
with type 2 diabetes
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or you have it yourself,
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getting at the
cause is always better
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than just treating symptoms,
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especially when we
have a devastating disease
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that could cause you
to have a heart attack,
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or stroke, or some other organ
in the body that goes poorly
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just because it doesn't
have a good blood supply.
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The majority of type 2 diabetes
is caused by our lifestyle.
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And that lifestyle consist
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of eating the
wrong types of food
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and not exercising enough.
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What are the
wrong types of food?
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Well, a diet that's high
in animal protein, animal fat,
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and processed foods.
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This through a bunch
of complex mechanisms
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make blood sugar increase,
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damaging our entire body,
including our blood vessels.
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It only makes sense
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if we want to solve
this major health problem
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that we have to go
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to a whole food
plant-based diet.
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We have to get
animal protein, animal fat,
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processed foods out of our diet.
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Many studies have
shown that if you go
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to a whole food
plant-based diet,
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you can reverse type 2 diabetes
in a short period of time.
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Are there other
contributors to type 2 diabetes?
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Absolutely, sometimes you
can have your pancreas destroyed
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by toxins and it
doesn't make insulin,
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a whole food plant-based diet
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helps address
that problem as well.
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So I want to encourage you,
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if you know someone
that has type 2 diabetes
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or if you might have it,
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get at the cause of disease
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and just don't
treat the symptoms.
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Move away from a diet
that's high in protein,
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high in fat, and
high in processed foods,
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and go to a whole food
plant-based diet today.
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That's some great advice there.
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Just to summarize,
it's caused by lifestyle.
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Type 2 diabetes is
caused by lifestyle,
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primarily lack of exercise,
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and too many
processed foods, right?
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And then it's reversible
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through a whole
food plant-based diet.
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Is that about right?
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Yeah, that's about right.
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And in looking at the research,
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we know that
when a person brings
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too much fat in
the body, it's stored.
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And all of this extra
animal fat and animal protein,
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we really weren't
designed to handle,
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it puts stress on the body.
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Specifically when these
fat receptors get clogged up,
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you know, these fat, you know,
in our body gets clogged up...
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I didn't mean fat receptors,
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I mean insulin
receptors get clogged up by fat,
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the blood sugar
can't get into the cells.
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So your pancreas
makes more insulin,
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which, so the pancreas
starts running out of insulin,
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the sugar can't
get into the cells,
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so all sorts of other
metabolic processes occur.
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It starts breaking
down other energy sources
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because the
blood sugar's so high,
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you start going to
the bathroom a lot,
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you urinate a lot,
you get tired a lot,
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the blood
vessels become damaged,
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you have lots
of medical problems
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that can progress over time.
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This is why type 2
diabetes is so devastating,
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and it's estimated that
one in three by mid century
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in the United States
will have this condition.
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So it sounds like
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we're talking basically about
a little traffic jam going on
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your insulin receptors.
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The fat's blocking it,
so the insulin can't get in
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creating more insulin.
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What's the situation here?
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Whole food plant-based diet
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can reverse it most of the time,
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but I don't think we
hear that often enough.
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What is modern
medicine doing to treat this?
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Yeah, well, a lot of, you
know, we're just now finding out
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about a lot of this
good nutritional therapy
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that's out there.
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And now that is getting out
there, we're realizing that,
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you know, you go to the doctor,
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and he's going
to hear about this,
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and, you know, one of the things
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I'm very curious is that
pancreas still making insulin,
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okay?
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If the pancreas is making
insulin, that's great, okay.
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Then that means
you have a chance
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to reverse this.
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So you want to get
improve the situation,
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and by getting fat off
the body, by exercising,
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studies have shown
that you can reverse this.
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There's a
couple of good websites
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if you might be interested
in reversal, the details of it.
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One of them is pcrm.org,
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that's Physicians Committee
for Responsible Medicine.org.
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And also the
plantpurenation.com website
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has some very good information
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about giving you
the nuts and bolts
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if you're
interested in doing this,
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of course, under
your doctor's supervision
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'cause not everyone
should be doing this
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in different types of ways.
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But it is possible to
reverse this condition.
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Is it easy? No.
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'Cause, you know, everyone,
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you know, people, unfortunately
they go to the doctor
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and the blood sugar's high,
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and it takes time
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to educate people on
nutrition and exercise.
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And unfortunately many
people don't want to do it.
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They go, "It's too
hard, I can't do it."
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But you know what?
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I've learned, if you'll
start one step at a time,
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and move slow, and say,
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"Listen, it doesn't
have to be done in a day."
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Now some people
want to do it all at once
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'cause they want to
feel better right away
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'cause they have
so many symptoms.
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But a lot of
times, type 2 diabetes,
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they don't feel too bad at first
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until they show up
with a heart attack,
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renal failure,
neuropathy or something major.
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So that's why this
is a hidden process
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that's going on in our bodies.
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It's sort of a silent
assassin for many years
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until all of a sudden an
organ's damaged permanently.
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And that's what
we want to prevent
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and we know worldwide
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as we've begun
eating the westernized diet,
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all this processed
foods, all this animal fat,
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animal protein, we've created
a problem in our own bodies.
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And I want to, you
know, I got a great example
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little bit later
that I want to talk about,
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about ways that we...
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One person that I know,
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a patient that I had
actually reversed this.
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All right.
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Well, stay tuned,
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we're going to be
back after a short break
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where Dr. Marcum
is going to talk to us
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about a case study of a patient
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who actually
reversed type 2 diabetes
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just using a whole
food plant-based diet.
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