The following program presents principles 00:00:01.36\00:00:02.70 designed to promote good health 00:00:02.73\00:00:04.07 and is not intended to take the place 00:00:04.10\00:00:05.60 of personalized professional care. 00:00:05.63\00:00:07.60 The opinions and ideas expressed 00:00:07.64\00:00:09.14 are those of the speaker. 00:00:09.17\00:00:10.64 Viewers are encouraged to draw their own conclusions 00:00:10.67\00:00:13.11 about the information presented. 00:00:13.14\00:00:15.28 Remember, when you were a kid 00:00:15.31\00:00:16.81 and never had to think about exercise 00:00:16.85\00:00:18.41 because you're a kid 00:00:18.45\00:00:19.78 and you just played all day long, 00:00:19.81\00:00:21.35 those were the days. 00:00:21.38\00:00:22.72 But as we get older, 00:00:22.75\00:00:24.09 the responsibilities of life pile on 00:00:24.12\00:00:25.95 and we often take for granted the gift of movement. 00:00:25.99\00:00:29.26 We were designed to move 00:00:29.29\00:00:30.63 and the benefits we can experience 00:00:30.66\00:00:31.99 from regular exercise are tremendous. 00:00:32.03\00:00:34.46 Stay with us as Dr. Marcum shares more 00:00:34.50\00:00:36.63 right here on the Ultimate Prescription 00:00:36.67\00:00:38.47 in just a moment. 00:00:38.50\00:00:39.83 Thanks for joining us here today 00:00:59.95\00:01:01.29 on the Ultimate Prescription, 00:01:01.32\00:01:02.72 a program dedicated to helping us better understand 00:01:02.76\00:01:05.49 God's design for our life 00:01:05.53\00:01:07.20 and experience better health by following His plan. 00:01:07.23\00:01:10.13 I'm your host Nick Evenson, 00:01:10.17\00:01:11.50 and I'm joined by Dr. James Marcum, 00:01:11.53\00:01:13.54 and on today, we're gonna talk about the benefits of movement 00:01:13.57\00:01:17.41 and at times why we should maybe not move. 00:01:17.44\00:01:19.87 Is that right, Dr. Marcum? 00:01:19.91\00:01:21.24 Let's talk about that, 00:01:21.28\00:01:22.61 but I like the word that you said "Play" 00:01:22.64\00:01:24.85 that sounds like a fun thing to do. 00:01:24.88\00:01:26.82 Yeah, you know, when I was a kid 00:01:26.85\00:01:28.18 we played all day long every day. 00:01:28.22\00:01:29.65 Well, why don't we do that as an adult? 00:01:29.68\00:01:32.15 Why doesn't everyone play more? 00:01:32.19\00:01:34.19 I mean, I think playing is a great thing to do 00:01:34.22\00:01:36.09 'cause... 00:01:36.12\00:01:37.46 Can you think of any type of play 00:01:37.49\00:01:38.83 where you don't move? 00:01:38.86\00:01:42.30 Maybe if you're drawing that's kind of playing. 00:01:42.33\00:01:45.03 But you're still sort of moving... 00:01:45.07\00:01:46.47 A little bit, yeah. 00:01:46.50\00:01:47.84 Even play dominos you are moving. 00:01:47.87\00:01:49.64 I'll tell you the kind that's not much movement. 00:01:49.67\00:01:52.41 On your controller and you're just moving your thumb. 00:01:52.44\00:01:54.14 Yeah, you're right. That's not much. 00:01:54.18\00:01:55.81 That doesn't count. 00:01:55.84\00:01:57.88 So movement is a key for us to feel better, 00:01:57.91\00:02:01.22 you know, it's very, very important. 00:02:01.25\00:02:03.85 We have lots of questions 00:02:03.89\00:02:05.59 that have come into the website, 00:02:05.62\00:02:07.06 the HeartWiseMinistries.org website. 00:02:07.09\00:02:09.76 And most of the ones I receive 00:02:09.79\00:02:11.86 are for ways to incorporate moving 00:02:11.89\00:02:14.76 into a busy lifestyle like you said. 00:02:14.80\00:02:16.83 Well, I don't feel like it, how can I get over the hump. 00:02:16.87\00:02:19.60 What can I do? 00:02:19.63\00:02:20.97 You know, how can I make this fun? 00:02:21.00\00:02:23.27 So we should make movement playful. 00:02:23.30\00:02:25.24 Yeah, absolutely. 00:02:25.27\00:02:26.61 And it might just be that, that is a state of mind, 00:02:26.64\00:02:29.28 you know, when I move every body part, 00:02:29.31\00:02:31.88 man, I'm playing, you know. 00:02:31.91\00:02:33.78 When I'm moving every body part, 00:02:33.82\00:02:35.48 I can connect with God. 00:02:35.52\00:02:36.92 You know, let's find something that's positive about movement 00:02:36.95\00:02:40.09 and bring our brains into that and make it fun. 00:02:40.12\00:02:42.62 So we want to move and we do it often. 00:02:42.66\00:02:45.66 You know, workplaces now 00:02:45.69\00:02:47.66 are very big about these stand up desks, 00:02:47.70\00:02:50.60 you know, where you stand up and move 00:02:50.63\00:02:52.37 and you sit up straight 'cause, 00:02:52.40\00:02:53.74 you know, sometimes we have this bad posture, 00:02:53.77\00:02:55.14 I have bad posture sometimes. 00:02:55.17\00:02:57.37 And bad posture itself, 00:02:57.41\00:02:59.41 and if we don't have that movement 00:02:59.44\00:03:01.31 we can actually wear out our back. 00:03:01.34\00:03:03.14 In a lot of chronic back problems people get 00:03:03.18\00:03:06.18 is just 'cause we sit so much, we don't sit up straight, 00:03:06.21\00:03:09.15 you know, we get low back pains. 00:03:09.18\00:03:10.89 So movement includes not only the way we move 00:03:10.92\00:03:14.62 but the posture we have, the way we stretch out, 00:03:14.66\00:03:17.69 all these things so I love it when you said, "Let's play," 00:03:17.73\00:03:20.66 so let's move and play at the same time 00:03:20.70\00:03:23.03 'cause that'll be fun. 00:03:23.06\00:03:24.40 Yeah, absolutely. Let's do it. 00:03:24.43\00:03:25.77 You bet. Let's go. 00:03:25.80\00:03:27.14 Let's start moving, man. 00:03:27.17\00:03:28.50 Well, before we start moving, 00:03:28.54\00:03:29.87 we've got some questions we gotta answer. 00:03:29.90\00:03:31.24 'Cause there are lots of people that write into the website 00:03:31.27\00:03:32.77 HeartWiseMinistries.org. 00:03:32.81\00:03:34.34 If you have a question, 00:03:34.38\00:03:35.71 go there now and you can fill out the form, 00:03:35.74\00:03:38.21 send a message and Dr. Marcum or someone on his team 00:03:38.25\00:03:40.62 will give you some general guidance. 00:03:40.65\00:03:42.55 But somebody's written in and says, 00:03:42.58\00:03:43.92 "I have advanced heart disease. 00:03:43.95\00:03:45.75 How do I know, 00:03:45.79\00:03:47.12 how much I should be able to exercise 00:03:47.16\00:03:48.86 or move and still be safe?" 00:03:48.89\00:03:51.19 So good for this person, 00:03:51.23\00:03:52.56 in the first place they are wanting to move 00:03:52.59\00:03:54.56 but they have a condition so how do they know? 00:03:54.60\00:03:57.33 Well, that's one of the keys that I think is having is... 00:03:57.37\00:04:00.84 People have to see the importance of moving 00:04:00.87\00:04:03.44 and what happens to the body if it doesn't move? 00:04:03.47\00:04:06.57 Well, advanced heart failure, for a variety of reasons 00:04:06.61\00:04:10.15 the heart doesn't pump well. 00:04:10.18\00:04:12.45 In the United States 00:04:12.48\00:04:13.82 the most common one is blockage in the arteries, 00:04:13.85\00:04:16.79 okay, other places there might be infections 00:04:16.82\00:04:19.49 but the heart gets weak for a variety of reasons, 00:04:19.52\00:04:22.32 can't work. 00:04:22.36\00:04:23.69 The body tries to compensate by making stress chemicals, 00:04:23.73\00:04:27.13 which can hurt the body further. 00:04:27.16\00:04:29.30 Well, exercise is a very important treatment 00:04:29.33\00:04:32.67 for any type of disease, especially heart disease. 00:04:32.70\00:04:35.80 It helps maximize the muscles that we have, 00:04:35.84\00:04:39.14 takes more oxygen, lower stress chemicals, 00:04:39.17\00:04:42.11 be it endorphins and other mechanisms. 00:04:42.14\00:04:44.65 But how does one know when we're overdoing it 00:04:44.68\00:04:47.52 especially if your heart's weak, 00:04:47.55\00:04:48.98 especially if you have a muscular problem? 00:04:49.02\00:04:51.65 Well, you wanna check with your physician first, 00:04:51.69\00:04:54.52 'cause they can give you the best guidelines. 00:04:54.56\00:04:57.19 But in general, when your body gets extremely fatigued, 00:04:57.23\00:05:00.83 we get a short of breath. 00:05:00.86\00:05:02.40 That's your body telling you that you're overdoing it 00:05:02.43\00:05:05.50 and you need to back off. 00:05:05.53\00:05:07.10 Now, I suggest that everyone see your doctor 00:05:07.14\00:05:09.34 and ask how much exercise you should be getting 00:05:09.37\00:05:12.17 to make sure you're not having a chronic medical condition 00:05:12.21\00:05:14.74 that's caused it. 00:05:14.78\00:05:16.11 But everyone should do at least something every day 00:05:16.14\00:05:19.61 with a weak heart. 00:05:19.65\00:05:20.98 And I found that as they start exercise programs 00:05:21.02\00:05:23.45 as they start small that they can gradually... 00:05:23.49\00:05:26.02 They get better musculoskeletal, 00:05:26.05\00:05:27.86 they get better oxygenation, they get better metabolism, 00:05:27.89\00:05:31.19 the muscle itself gets a little bit stronger, 00:05:31.23\00:05:33.63 the rest of the body works more efficiently 00:05:33.66\00:05:36.63 so the heart doesn't have to work as hard 00:05:36.67\00:05:38.90 so it helps every part of the body out. 00:05:38.93\00:05:41.24 So for advance heart failure, talk to your physician, 00:05:41.27\00:05:44.11 see what size of an exercise program fits you 00:05:44.14\00:05:47.28 and then start somewhere and build it. 00:05:47.31\00:05:49.48 I had one gentleman, 00:05:49.51\00:05:51.01 a normal ejection fractional heart is 50%, 00:05:51.05\00:05:54.25 it pumps about 50% of the blood that goes in it. 00:05:54.28\00:05:56.65 I had a fellow that had a 5% ejection fraction, 5%. 00:05:56.69\00:06:01.12 And he started out by walking four steps a day, 00:06:01.16\00:06:04.46 four steps a day. 00:06:04.49\00:06:06.09 Well, I saw him in the office a few weeks ago 00:06:06.13\00:06:08.36 and he's now walking 40 minutes a day. 00:06:08.40\00:06:10.87 Oh, wow. Now, he doesn't go too fast. 00:06:10.90\00:06:12.97 He's got a pacemaker in so his heart can't go real fast 00:06:13.00\00:06:16.40 but I tell him, 00:06:16.44\00:06:17.77 whenever you start getting shorter breath 00:06:17.81\00:06:19.34 that's your sign to walk. 00:06:19.37\00:06:20.71 Now, he doesn't always do 40 minutes at once. 00:06:20.74\00:06:22.94 Sometimes he does five minutes, 10 minutes 00:06:22.98\00:06:25.31 'cause different things get tired sooner. 00:06:25.35\00:06:27.62 But by doing that 00:06:27.65\00:06:29.25 he's prolonged the wearing out of his heart muscle 00:06:29.28\00:06:32.02 and it'll improve the function that it can do. 00:06:32.05\00:06:34.22 So you're just having them walk a few steps at a time 00:06:34.26\00:06:36.56 and then we get out of breath, take a rest. 00:06:36.59\00:06:39.56 Yeah, but now, what I'm gonna do now 00:06:39.59\00:06:41.33 is I'm gonna say make your exercise playful. 00:06:41.36\00:06:44.63 And I'm gonna try... 00:06:44.67\00:06:46.00 You've inspired me, 00:06:46.03\00:06:47.37 I may try to start figuring out ways 00:06:47.40\00:06:48.74 to make exercise fun and playful. 00:06:48.77\00:06:51.24 Well, how can I? 00:06:51.27\00:06:52.61 What can we do to give people a playful way to exercise? 00:06:52.64\00:06:55.84 Now, the Bible, 00:06:55.88\00:06:57.28 you know, we talk about biblical prescription, 00:06:57.31\00:06:59.41 movement is a biblical prescription, 00:06:59.45\00:07:01.55 okay. 00:07:01.58\00:07:02.98 People moved throughout Bible times, okay, 00:07:03.02\00:07:05.45 but they didn't have cars, 00:07:05.49\00:07:06.82 and they didn't have some of the things that we had 00:07:06.86\00:07:08.19 so it was just natural to move. 00:07:08.22\00:07:10.43 Now, it's natural not to move, you know, and we sort of... 00:07:10.46\00:07:15.00 The paradigm is totally switched. 00:07:15.03\00:07:17.27 So when that's happened, 00:07:17.30\00:07:18.77 we have to recognize that we have a problem here 00:07:18.80\00:07:20.90 that's putting stress on the parts 00:07:20.94\00:07:22.67 and we have to overcompensate by doing things. 00:07:22.70\00:07:25.34 And some people I talk to, 00:07:25.37\00:07:27.91 you know, and I remind them of how important moving is 00:07:27.94\00:07:30.68 and they just realize it is, they adapt it, they say, 00:07:30.71\00:07:33.38 "I feel better than I've had in a long period of time." 00:07:33.42\00:07:36.95 I'll tell you what, we've got a clip 00:07:36.99\00:07:38.32 from the Biblical Prescriptions for Life Bible study 00:07:38.35\00:07:41.62 that talks about just such a case, the Harris's, 00:07:41.66\00:07:45.53 some patients of yours that you saw a while back. 00:07:45.56\00:07:47.80 Let's have a listen to their story about movement. 00:07:47.83\00:07:51.13 The Harris's have been married 60 years. 00:07:51.17\00:07:54.24 Both of them had heart problems when they were in the 70s. 00:07:54.27\00:07:57.51 She had atrial fibrillation and he had a bypass surgery. 00:07:57.54\00:08:01.24 But they had done so well through the years 00:08:01.28\00:08:03.48 on really minimal medications. 00:08:03.51\00:08:06.05 Last summer while they were in their 80s, 00:08:06.08\00:08:09.02 they travelled to Alaska on their own 00:08:09.05\00:08:11.89 and had the trip of a lifetime. 00:08:11.92\00:08:14.22 The main problem Mr. Harris has been having on that trip 00:08:14.26\00:08:17.53 and lately he's been arthritis, 00:08:17.56\00:08:19.36 both of the hips and of the knees. 00:08:19.39\00:08:22.40 And Mrs. Harris has been swelling in the legs, 00:08:22.43\00:08:25.23 a condition we call edema. 00:08:25.27\00:08:27.24 A few months ago they were in the office 00:08:27.27\00:08:29.40 and we were talking about these problems 00:08:29.44\00:08:31.64 and I explained to them 00:08:31.67\00:08:33.21 that more important than taking their medications, 00:08:33.24\00:08:35.84 which were minimal was the treatment of movement. 00:08:35.88\00:08:39.31 This truth of movement needed to be practiced 00:08:39.35\00:08:42.28 just with more care. 00:08:42.32\00:08:44.55 I talked to them about wisely 00:08:44.59\00:08:46.92 continuing to move all the body parts. 00:08:46.96\00:08:49.96 This was gonna be a key treatment for them, 00:08:49.99\00:08:52.36 not only for their current symptoms 00:08:52.39\00:08:55.10 but to maintain their independence. 00:08:55.13\00:08:58.30 Mr. Harris was continuing... 00:08:58.33\00:09:00.54 As the years went by they have more stiffness and joint pains 00:09:00.57\00:09:03.61 and I explained to him an activity 00:09:03.64\00:09:05.14 like just hourly stretching 00:09:05.17\00:09:07.38 and walking with his cane around this house every hour 00:09:07.41\00:09:10.61 would help keep the parts more limber. 00:09:10.65\00:09:12.85 Well, this made a lot of sense to him 00:09:12.88\00:09:14.75 as he used to be an engineer. 00:09:14.78\00:09:16.32 And guess what? 00:09:16.35\00:09:17.69 Soon he was charting his stretching every hour. 00:09:17.72\00:09:19.95 He was keeping a journal of a steps. 00:09:19.99\00:09:22.66 I also explained to him 00:09:22.69\00:09:24.03 that movements were actually helping 00:09:24.06\00:09:25.76 decrease the aging process 00:09:25.79\00:09:27.90 by slowing a condition called oxidation 00:09:27.93\00:09:30.70 and lengthening the telomeres. 00:09:30.73\00:09:33.13 Movement was also improving blood flow 00:09:33.17\00:09:36.00 and by moving he was using neural pathways 00:09:36.04\00:09:38.57 involved in balance. 00:09:38.61\00:09:40.18 I explained to both of them 00:09:40.21\00:09:41.61 that no other pill or treatment could accomplish this. 00:09:41.64\00:09:45.48 It affected every cell of the body. 00:09:45.51\00:09:47.78 I also explained, 00:09:47.82\00:09:49.15 the longer we are inactive the sooner we age. 00:09:49.18\00:09:52.59 I explained to her that just this movement 00:09:52.62\00:09:54.76 would help keep the blood moving in her legs, 00:09:54.79\00:09:57.19 lowering the risk of blood clots. 00:09:57.23\00:09:59.39 Moving and stretching would also help the valves 00:09:59.43\00:10:01.90 in the veins push the fluid out of her legs. 00:10:01.93\00:10:05.57 I explained to both of them 00:10:05.60\00:10:06.94 that movement was one of the safest 00:10:06.97\00:10:08.70 and cheapest treatments for their symptoms. 00:10:08.74\00:10:12.21 They were both on the school of saving money 00:10:12.24\00:10:14.08 and once I explained 00:10:14.11\00:10:15.44 the physiologic benefits to them, 00:10:15.48\00:10:17.25 they were committed. 00:10:17.28\00:10:19.05 Movement treat the entire body. 00:10:19.08\00:10:21.52 Every cell of the system benefits. 00:10:21.55\00:10:23.82 It might be something simple like moving around the room. 00:10:23.85\00:10:27.02 Stretching all the parts or walking on a pathway. 00:10:27.06\00:10:30.36 Movement is a biblical prescription for life. 00:10:30.39\00:10:34.76 Wow, you know, Dr. Marcum, 00:10:34.80\00:10:36.13 it sounds like movement was one of the best things 00:10:36.16\00:10:38.27 that the Harris's could have done for themselves. 00:10:38.30\00:10:40.17 Yeah, it was, Nick, and the reason 00:10:40.20\00:10:42.04 I wanna stress that so much in this program today is, 00:10:42.07\00:10:45.21 people just don't think about some of the basics of health. 00:10:45.24\00:10:49.51 Well, why isn't emphasized? 00:10:49.54\00:10:51.28 Well, you know, we've evolved into a society 00:10:51.31\00:10:53.75 that doesn't have to move. 00:10:53.78\00:10:55.65 You know, we don't really have to if we don't want to. 00:10:55.68\00:10:58.72 You know, we do a lot of things 00:10:58.75\00:11:01.26 that we're indoor people instead of outdoors. 00:11:01.29\00:11:03.63 We text instead of talk. 00:11:03.66\00:11:06.26 You know, we don't have to raise our food, 00:11:06.29\00:11:08.06 we buy our food. 00:11:08.10\00:11:09.43 So we've changed from the way things used to be 00:11:09.46\00:11:12.20 and with that there's been some health consequences 00:11:12.23\00:11:14.87 that contribute to chronic disease. 00:11:14.90\00:11:18.14 Now, modern medicine has helped in many different ways, 00:11:18.17\00:11:20.91 but chronic disease is something 00:11:20.94\00:11:22.94 that many times it's our lifestyle. 00:11:22.98\00:11:24.61 And one of these big important issues 00:11:24.65\00:11:26.01 that people don't think about is moving every day. 00:11:26.05\00:11:29.12 Now, I take care of a lot of older people 00:11:29.15\00:11:32.22 and as we get older, you know, I'm not old. 00:11:32.25\00:11:36.02 But as we get older, you know, things hurt them more. 00:11:36.06\00:11:38.93 And people don't want to do it 00:11:38.96\00:11:40.30 'cause the pain keeps them from doing. 00:11:40.33\00:11:41.66 "Oh, it hurts, I can't do It. 00:11:41.70\00:11:43.03 It's easier just to stay in bed." 00:11:43.06\00:11:44.60 The one I'm telling, 00:11:44.63\00:11:45.97 the older group that we're talking to today 00:11:46.00\00:11:48.50 is finding something you can do and build on it. 00:11:48.54\00:11:52.17 You know, ask God 00:11:52.21\00:11:53.54 to find some type of movement you can do 00:11:53.58\00:11:56.08 and build on it and make it a habit. 00:11:56.11\00:11:58.35 Just like you have the habit to brush your teeth every day, 00:11:58.38\00:12:01.08 make it a habit to move every hour. 00:12:01.12\00:12:03.59 And when you do this, 00:12:03.62\00:12:04.95 you're gonna start enjoying the health benefits 00:12:04.99\00:12:07.19 and you're gonna start noticing that you're thinking better. 00:12:07.22\00:12:09.86 It might keep you from falling and breaking your hip, 00:12:09.89\00:12:12.73 it might help you keeping ambulatory, 00:12:12.76\00:12:15.23 it might help your brain working better 00:12:15.26\00:12:17.10 and thinking more active 00:12:17.13\00:12:18.47 'cause you're getting all that oxygen. 00:12:18.50\00:12:19.83 The benefits, like I talked to the Harris's are tremendous. 00:12:19.87\00:12:23.07 And today I just want us to focus 00:12:23.10\00:12:24.57 on the importance of movement, 00:12:24.61\00:12:26.98 and if we don't like to move, 00:12:27.01\00:12:29.01 ask God as you move with Him 00:12:29.04\00:12:30.95 to think about the physical movement as well. 00:12:30.98\00:12:32.68 Yeah. 00:12:32.71\00:12:34.05 I think, you know, for me one of the keys 00:12:34.08\00:12:35.65 to regular exercise and the regular movement, 00:12:35.68\00:12:37.89 it's just to find something that I enjoy doing. 00:12:37.92\00:12:40.39 If I enjoy it, if it's kind of like play, 00:12:40.42\00:12:43.39 then I'm really likely to do it more frequently. 00:12:43.43\00:12:45.69 And also finding a group of people 00:12:45.73\00:12:47.83 that I have shared interest with, 00:12:47.86\00:12:50.20 like I ride bikes with a group of guys 00:12:50.23\00:12:52.10 every weekend 00:12:52.13\00:12:53.47 and, you know, it's kind of nice 00:12:53.50\00:12:54.84 to have that community 'cause if I'm not there 00:12:54.87\00:12:57.04 they're gonna hold me accountable and say, 00:12:57.07\00:12:58.41 "Hey, where were you?" 00:12:58.44\00:12:59.77 So, you know, community, if you can build that 00:12:59.81\00:13:01.14 and find something that you enjoy doing. 00:13:01.18\00:13:02.64 Those are the couple of things that really helped me out. 00:13:02.68\00:13:04.51 You know, what's helped me out is, I have headphones, 00:13:04.55\00:13:07.88 you know, I got some headphones and I can listen to music, 00:13:07.92\00:13:10.55 I can listen to lectures and sermons, you can do a lot. 00:13:10.59\00:13:14.36 Get two things done and then making it fun, 00:13:14.39\00:13:16.86 making it more like play. 00:13:16.89\00:13:19.33 That's a good place to work on. 00:13:19.36\00:13:20.96 There's a couple of good tips right there. 00:13:21.00\00:13:22.43 I'll tell you what, Dr. Marcum, we're gonna take a quick break, 00:13:22.46\00:13:24.27 but we'll be back with more on movement. 00:13:24.30\00:13:26.43 What we need to know and what we need to worry about 00:13:26.47\00:13:29.30 and be considering when we do movement 00:13:29.34\00:13:31.67 in just a moment. 00:13:31.71\00:13:33.04