Welcome back to the program.
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I'm Charles Mills
here with Dr. James Marcum
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We're talking about "truth"
today and the "search for truth"
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And one of the most important
ways that we can find truth
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is to ask questions.
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If we ask questions to enough
people in enough environments,
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we're going to
find truth in there.
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And I look for consistency
- when I ask a lot of people
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the same question, I look
for a common thread there.
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When I ask you - I need
to talk to T. Colin Campbell,
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and Esselstyne
and Dr. Hans Diehl,
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I find a lot of agreement
and when I find that agreement,
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I say, "Ah, I'm onto something
here, this may be the truth,"
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and I keep looking and,
of course, I use the Bible
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as the foundation truth and it
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as to agree with
what the Bible says too.
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And this is such a big
topic and the big point
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that I want everyone
to have is when you have
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a health concern, when
you have a health problem,
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when you go to the doctor,
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include the "Ultimate Physician"
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that relationship
with God, go to the Bible,
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see what God has
to say, talk to Him,
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learn about Him, find Him,
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include Him in
every treatment plan.
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Now, how this looks
for individual people
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might be a little bit
different. That's true
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God might work in your
life a little bit different
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than He works in my life...
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But the important
point is, in this world,
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if we look at what
we talked about earlier,
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how Google and Calico
are coming up with this new
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solution to the
healthcare system.
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You look at the Kevin Trudeaus
of the world that are out there
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trying to sell snake oils...
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Well, I want each one of
us to try to find that truth,
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that truth that comes
and I think in the direction
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we're heading with looking
at the Ultimate Prescription,
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being that relationship with God
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through the ways
we've talked about,
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I think that's a great
place to start in finding truth.
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Absolutely! Okay, we're going to
start with some questions from
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heartwiseministries. org
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I invite you to
send your questions in
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to that web address
because we need to know what
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right here on
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heartwiseministries. org
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Okay, question #1,
this is a good one!
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"I hear so many
conflicting ideas on nutrition,
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oh boy, is that true or not,
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...where do you
go for information?"
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Where do YOU go for information?
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Well you know, Charles,
years ago when I was trying
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to figure out that
medicine wasn't exactly
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what I thought it would be...
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Okay, I took care
of this gentleman,
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he was in a bone marrow unit,
and he had stayed there for
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quite a long period of time
and despite all modern medicine
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had to do, he passed away...
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And in that time, I didn't
have the skill or I didn't talk
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to him about a relationship,
getting to know God,
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all those things
that I would do now.
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I just wasn't
comfortable and I didn't do it,
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and I let an
opportunity slip by...
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And at that time, I realized
that all the medical textbooks
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in the world and all the
learned people, this was great,
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but for me, it wasn't
where I was finding the answers.
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So I went back to my
Bible and at that time,
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I started studying the
Bible and looking in the Bible
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for answers.
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And so what I would do
in a question like this is
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you want to
know about nutrition,
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well, what does the
Bible teach about nutrition?
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At the creation, they
talked about fruits, vegetables,
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nuts and grains to eat.
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That was what
the perfect plan was.
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That was the environment
that God placed man in.
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And, I was reading on
and later in Daniel...
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and they put this in the Bible,
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and they put this story
about Daniel and his friends.
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They didn't eat the king's
food, they ate pulse and water,
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and after a short period of
time, they were a lot smarter!
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So that just tells me...
well that's something that's
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very important about doing
what God has planned for us.
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Something important and also
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what their parents
taught them was important.
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Then later on, I looked in
the Bible about the Israelites,
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remember, they were out
in the middle of nowhere
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and they needed something to eat
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and God gave them manna to eat.
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And I'm sure it
was very nutritious,
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they weren't dying,
they were doing pretty well.
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I'm sure it
probably tasted pretty good,
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but after a
short period of time,
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everyone started complaining...
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What did they want?
"Give us some birds to eat"
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So they started eating
the birds and they got sick.
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So that's one place I would
start and I would also look at
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...well what's going on today?
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Are we getting healthy
or are we getting sicker?
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So when I look at this, I
also realize that this is a
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big question... Where do
you learn about nutrition?
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Well people that did randomize
studies like T. Colin Campbell,
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unbiased studies, where they
are not trying to sell a product
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I think that's a
good place to look.
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There are things on the internet
where people can learn about
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different types of
foods and how to eat healthy.
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But I'll tell ya, it's
getting harder and harder
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with the chemicals,
the way they grow foods,
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and I'm afraid that
people are out there, Charles,
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and when they start
thinking about their health,
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they get fearful and they
get paranoid about something...
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"Oh, I can't have
this or I can't have that"
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Well you know,
that's another thing that
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God is going to help
us sort through that.
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If we diligently look for
answers in the right places,
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He is going to help us through
and it's a very tough world
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to get through nowadays.
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You know, I walk into the stores
and I see all the packages
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and the preservatives,
and the more you KNOW,
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that's more of a
responsibility too.
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But you have to trust God
to help you move through that,
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and to help you
balance out all these things...
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And I can pretty much find
something wrong with ANYTHING
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if I look hard enough.
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But that's not how I
choose to live my life.
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I want to choose to live my
life in service to other people,
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doing the best I can,
letting God help me along
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each step, each day of the way,
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and that's how I
want to live my life.
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I don't want to live my life
scared about everything I eat,
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even though I
think it's important.
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I don't want to live my
life worried about toxins,
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environmental -
though it is important,
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I want God to take care
of me, to send His angels
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like He has
promised to take care of me,
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and give me that
peace to live life.
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So this question, that's where
I'd start on this question.
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Question #2... Here
is a series of questions,
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actually true or false questions
and I will just run through
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these and you can
give us a true or false,
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and a short explanation
of why you made that answer.
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True or false -
looking for truth here...
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True or false - You
can have a heart attack
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with a normal EKG.
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That is a true statement,
especially if it's in a small
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artery or if the heart
attack hasn't fully developed.
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It may not show up on
the EKG... That's correct
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You can have a heart attack
with a normal EKG. All right
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True or false - A
stress test tells you that
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you have blockages.
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That's a false statement -
you could have lots of blockages
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that the stress
test does not pick up.
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You could have 50-60%
blockage in all the arteries,
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and a stress test would
not necessarily pick up that.
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Sometimes you can
have major blockages
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and a stress test
will not pick up that.
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So no test that
I've ever seen is 100%.
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All right, I've always wanted
to ask a doctor this question...
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An apple a day keeps the
doctor away - True or false?
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True - Apples have
chemicals called flavonoids
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and antioxidants which
helps our blood vessels
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and helps keep us healthier.
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It does lots of
good things for the body.
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It's a very fresh thing to eat.
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Now occasionally, I like
to eat those fried apple pies.
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They're probably not as
good as the fresh apple.
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They sure taste
good occasionally.
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Okay, fried apple pie
keeps the doctor nearby.
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Right - probably if
you eat too many of them!
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Next question - A
gynecologist delivers babies.
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False - A gynecologist
takes care of women's needs.
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The obstetrician is the
one that delivers the babies,
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and sometimes doctors do
it both and they call them
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obstetrician/gynecologist.
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So sometimes you have to look,
if you need a gynecologist,
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someone to help you
with female hormones,
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you might want to
go to a gynecologist.
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If you're young and you
have a baby that is due,
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you might want to
go to an obstetrician
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or find one that
does both because some
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specialize in
one or the other now.
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All right, very
good, looking for truth!
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Male menopause is
NOT a real condition.
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Male menopause is
now a real condition.
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That's where the
men, just like the women,
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we can have
fluctuations in our hormones,
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and the fluctuations of hormones
can cause real health problems.
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Another true or false question -
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Walking and
healthy diet can help bones
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as much as the medication?
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Yeah, that's true, Charles,
and you don't hear much about
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this on television, you know,
they want to sell their product.
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But, bone health,
walking, eating healthy foods,
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that showed just to
be as effective as taking
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one of these
fancy bone medicines
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to help make your bones strong.
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So if you're
diagnosed with osteoporosis,
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it's time to get into
walking and healthy eating.
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Absolutely, that's
something that you want to do
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to help strengthen your bones
and make your bones stronger.
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Okay... It's a good thing to do.
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This question, I get
this a lot in my work...
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Most sodium is taken in by
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salting the food at
the table, true or false?
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False... Most sodium comes
in the packaging of the foods.
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The things that keep it from
spoiling... In packaged foods.
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Yeah, the canned
goods, the packaged goods,
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the meat that
has been preserved.
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So most of the salt you
get in that and you don't get
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a whole lot in a salt shaker.
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And a lot of people take
in a lot more salt every day
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than they really actually
need and all this sodium
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raises blood pressure,
damages vascular structures,
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is not very good.
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So if people would
just try not to eat as much
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things in
packages, eat more FRESH,
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that's going to help
their health by decreasing
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the total amount of
sodium they get every day.
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All right, very good.
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True or false - Fear
hurts your ability to think?
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That's actually true.
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People that are scared to death
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or have a lot of
fear in their lives,
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it turns on the
stress part of the brain
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which makes the
prefrontal cortex,
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the thinking part of the
brain, not think as good.
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And I think that people that are
taking tests that are scared,
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they notice when
they're scared and fearful,
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they don't think as good.
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But when they calm down,
relax, take a deep breath,
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they're able to
make good decisions.
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Now, some people,
believe it or not, will argue
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with each other and
they'll get into discussions
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and arguments and
stuff and they'll actually
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get mad at each other.
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And when that mad and that
fear is going back and forth,
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you can't think as good.
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So in that situation
too, you should step back,
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let yourself settle down and
you'll actually think better.
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So we don't like - fear
is not a really good thing
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for high cognitive
function. All right, very good
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True or false - A
thankful heart is a happy heart.
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That is a true statement.
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I'm looking for the strong,
scientific evidence right now,
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but what got that
in my mind is the kids,
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when they were little, they
used to watch the Veggie Tales,
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and they had a Madam Blueberry
and she used to sing this song -
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"A thankful
heart is a happy heart,
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I'm glad for what I have,
it's an easy place to start"
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But anyway,
people that are thankful,
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I think, tend to be happier.
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Happy people make
higher endorphins,
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it helps a lot of
good things in the body.
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So, we need to be more thankful.
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I think that's a true statement.
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Well I'm thankful for
that little song you sang.
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That was lovely,
thank you very much.
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We'll take a short
break and when we come back
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Dr. Marcum will take
us to the Throne of Grace
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for even more information,
stay right where you are.
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We've talked about some
interesting things today,
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and I promise I'm
not going to sing another
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Madam Blueberry song to you.
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But I do think a
thankful heart is a happy heart,
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and I hope your
heart is happy today.
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I hope you're thankful that
you watched this program today.
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If you look,
everyone is out there
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looking for
truth in their lives,
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and I'm looking for truth and
I want to share with you some
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things that I
learned about truth
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as it relates to healthcare
and I want you to continue
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to look for truth.
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And there might be those out
there that are beginning their
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search and we want to
pray for you right now.
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Shall we bow our heads...
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Dear Heavenly Father, I
want to thank You for being
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with us. We're all
so different in life.
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We have different
things that we need.
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We have different backgrounds,
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but I think, Father,
we all want to have truth.
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We all want to know You
better and we all want to be
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healthier, Father.
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We want to thank each person
and if there is someone here
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that needs Your love in
an EXTRA special way today,
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needs Your healing, we
want to pray that You come into
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their lives in a
very special way, Father.
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Touch them and help them, Father
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And please help each one of us
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in our journey to find
truth, Father and You lead us
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the way You want us to go.
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Thank you for bringing us here
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together as a group
today, is our prayer... Amen
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There are many ways you can
stay in touch with our ministry
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You can go to our website
and our website is called...
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heartwiseministries. org
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You can leave your
question or concern.
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There are a lot of interesting
things on that website.
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There's a prayer page where
you can pray for other people.
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There is also
places with testimony.
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And I want to thank you
for joining us today on the
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"Ultimate Prescription"
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and join us each time
and I want to pray that
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God will continue to
go with you and bless you.
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