Participants: James Marcum & Charles Mills
Series Code: UP
Program Code: UP00050A
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00:17 Remember the old commercial for the hamburger chain?
00:20 A lady looks up from her bun and shouts, "WHERE'S THE BEEF?" 00:24 What she should have said was, "Where's the truth?" 00:28 Stay tuned... 00:29 I'm Dr. James Marcum 00:32 Are you interested in discovering the reason why? 00:35 Do you want solutions to your healthcare problems? 00:38 Are you tired of taking medications? 00:41 Well, you're about to be given the "Ultimate Prescription" 00:49 Everyone wants to make you healthy these days. 00:52 Everyone has a plan, a product or a procedure 00:55 guaranteed to - choose one, make you thinner, 00:58 smarter, hairier, faster, more restful, more attractive, 01:01 longer lived, able to sleep, able to stay awake, 01:04 able to think and even able to fight cancer. 01:07 What works? What doesn't? 01:10 Where oh where is the truth? 01:12 Dr. Marcum, tell us what we need to do and TELL US the TRUTH 01:16 Well you mentioned hair, could you fill me in on that one? 01:19 I use it all the time! Does it actually work? 01:22 Ah, you look for yourself! 01:23 WOW, you're going to have to share that with me. 01:25 It's called "genetics. " Oh genetics... oh Charles 01:29 You know, one of the reasons I enjoy doing a television program 01:34 is because it forces me to learn and it forces me to answer 01:38 questions as I serve other people 01:40 And so many people have written in to our website - the 01:43 heartwiseministries. org with their questions 01:45 and I write blogs and I try to find the truth too 01:48 because I think there needs to be a voice OUT THERE 01:51 that proclaims truth the best that we can... 01:55 And what we do a little bit differently is 01:58 we let people know the place for modern medicine, 02:00 we talk a lot about lifestyle, 02:03 but we also talk about relationships, 02:05 brains in our relationship with God 02:07 and how He brings everything together. 02:09 Because it's discouraging, you know, when people are 02:11 sick and feel bad, but we do know that 02:14 as long as they are in this relationship 02:16 they're going to be healed in God's time. 02:18 So that's very exciting, but "Where's the beef" 02:21 that was a good one, Charles! 02:23 Where's the truth? And that's what we always are, 02:26 seekers of truth. 02:28 A few years ago, that commercial was very POPULAR, 02:33 and I think the people want to know where the truth is. 02:36 They want to know truth deep down, 02:38 and I think our genetics is built to know truth. 02:40 In other words, this chain was saying, 02:42 "We have the most wonderful beef and she was opening up 02:45 and says, "It's not here" 02:47 And that happens to us so many times. 02:49 We hear a claim, we hear someone talking about something, 02:52 and when we open it up and we actually look at it 02:54 and examine it, it's not there. 02:57 And this is an exciting time in earth's history 03:00 because everyone is looking for the truth. 03:02 You know, they know that health care is not going well; 03:05 they know that the government is not doing so well; 03:08 the world itself is not doing so well, 03:10 so people are looking for truth; they're looking for answers, 03:12 something to guide them by, something to look to for hope! 03:16 On September 18, 2013, Google announced the 03:22 launch of a new entity. 03:24 Now Google is a pretty big company, Charles. 03:26 They call this "Calico" 03:28 This is a whole new company designed to improve 03:31 the health of the world. 03:33 So Google, knowing something is not going... 03:35 we need some improvement. 03:36 So Google announced this and with the rates of heart attacks, 03:40 strokes, cancers, chronic pain, diabetes going up, 03:44 I think it was very reasonable for them to spend all this money 03:48 into developing this new company. 03:50 Now what is this company going to do? 03:52 Well, with billions and billions of prescriptions and medications 03:56 being written every year that don't fix the problem, 03:59 they're hoping to give some answers 04:01 to this healthcare dilemma. 04:02 They know that we're not doing this. 04:04 Needless to say, right now I think our world is 04:08 sicker than ever, would you agree? 04:10 I would too and the thing that just stuck in my mind 04:12 when you were saying that - is Google trying to make 04:15 healthcare as it is - more available 04:17 like the government is doing right now? No 04:18 They're going to come up with a company called "Calico" 04:22 that gives us the answers; 04:23 that tells us how we can prevent aging; 04:25 that can tell us this, that can tell other people 04:27 how to do it better - that's what they're hoping. Wow 04:31 No one even asked us about that. 04:33 I was going to say... They didn't consult us. 04:35 But anyway, people have been trying to do this for a while, 04:38 and I don't know if you remember Kevin Trudeau, remember? 04:40 Kevin Trudeau is one of these guys that get up late at night, 04:43 and he has made millions and millions from promoting 04:47 various remedies, you know, this is the best thing. 04:50 Infomercial-type things... Yeah, infomercial-type things. 04:52 Well he now has a court order to pay all these 04:56 multimillion dollars BACK for fraudulent work. WOW-wow! 05:00 But it begs a question... Why would people spend 05:04 millions and millions of dollars on unproven remedies. 05:09 Why would they buy all these supplements? 05:11 Why would they try this or that? 05:12 Well, people are searching for something more. 05:15 They're searching for truth. 05:17 They want to feel better. 05:18 They realize they're not being told the truth, 05:21 and they will go anywhere to find a cure. 05:24 Now hopefully, this entity of Calico will find answers. 05:28 But I've been looking for the answers myself, 05:31 and really, the source of truth for the answers 05:34 to what they want to find is in the Bible. 05:37 If they would have asked me, I would have told Calico 05:39 the place to look for the answers to the health care 05:41 problems is in the Bible, the Great Physician, the Creator 05:46 He has made wonderful suggestions to change our 05:49 chemistry, to help the healing process, 05:51 and what I've done through the years is - I go back and find 05:54 biblical texts and then prove the chemistry behind it. 05:57 Then I try to incorporate it into people's lives. 06:00 Now that's just the absolute opposite of what most 06:03 scientists do, they say - "Here's the scientific proof, 06:06 let's go see if the Bible talks about that" 06:08 But you're starting with the Bible, 06:09 "Here's what the Bible says is truth, 06:11 let's see if science talks about that" 06:13 And you know what, that's why I like to try 06:14 to make you laugh on this program, 06:16 because I know when I make you laugh, 06:18 "A merry heart does good like a medicine" 06:19 it makes your endorphins go up and your stress goes down 06:22 and you're happier. 06:24 That's why, last night, I said, "Well go to bed Charles, 06:27 get plenty of rest" There's healing power in rest. 06:30 Two hundred years ago or 300 years ago, 06:33 you remember George Washington, don't you, Charles 06:36 Not personally, but I've heard about him in the books. 06:38 Well they put leaches on him to help his infection, 06:42 and in the process, the leaches 06:44 took out half of his blood volume. 06:47 So he didn't have any white blood cells left 06:49 to fight an infection because they took all of his blood out. 06:51 If you were a doctor hanging around with those fellows, 06:54 and you didn't do the leach thing, 06:57 they called you a bad doctor, you know, you were a bad doctor. 07:00 In the mid 30s, if you didn't prescribe cigarettes 07:05 for people that smoked - asthma, you were considered a bad doctor 07:08 For people that had asthma, they'd say - smoke a cigarette, 07:11 it will help your asthma. 07:12 Yeah, and if you didn't do that, 07:13 if you didn't join the bandwagon, 07:14 you were considered a bad doctor, a bad healer. 07:18 Now I'm wondering about when people look back 07:21 at this time in history today, if you look back at the leaches 07:24 and this, what are they going to say about us, 07:26 and the way we're treating things? 07:28 Are they going to say we're bad doctors? 07:30 What do you think, Charles? 07:32 Well when you look at today's world, the answer is, 07:36 if you don't prescribe a drug, a powerful, powerful drug 07:39 for this disease, you're a bad doctor. 07:41 And you're saying that that may someday fall out of favor? 07:45 Well, I think as history shows itself... 07:48 Look what history - history tends to repeat itself. 07:51 They didn't think these George Washington doctors were so good 07:54 or the people that were given medicines for asthma. 07:55 Now, I think that they probably did the best that they 07:57 could at the time. 07:58 But as the governments from all over the world, 08:01 as the governments searches for answers to healthcare 08:04 delivery and as we see in our own country, 08:06 this Affordable Care Act going into place 08:08 and people getting confused, as Kevin Trudeau now 08:11 with all his snake oil sits in detainment, 08:15 Google is putting resources into the problem. 08:18 Google is not alone. 08:21 The ministry that I work with Heartwise Ministries, 08:23 we're doing the same thing. 08:24 We want to improve the health of the world. 08:26 We want to teach people how to live better, 08:29 and the solution is right in front of us, right in the Bible. 08:32 And that's why we do these medical programs, 08:34 the radio program that you help with, 08:36 the television programs, the blogs... 08:38 Because we want to give someone something else to 08:40 think about and look at the evidence themselves. 08:43 Don't accept it blindly, look at the evidence 08:46 see if it works in your life and if it works, 08:49 share it with someone else. 08:51 This is true evangelism, the way we can spread 08:54 health message and truth to other people... 08:56 And when they say - "You're life is doing good, 08:59 you're feeling good, you're looking good, Charles, 09:01 you're feeling good, Charles," 09:03 they want to know more about you... 09:04 And then they start looking for truth and say, "Charles, 09:06 where did you find truth?" 09:08 And then they eventually, hopefully, will find that 09:11 relationship with the Master, the Ultimate Creator, 09:15 and that's what we all want. 09:17 And, you asked the question "Where's the beef?" 09:20 "Where's the truth?" THAT'S where the truth is! 09:23 And we can't be ashamed to tell people where the truth really is 09:27 What are we - when we mask the truth or hide the truth? 09:30 Think about it... What if I have a great health program, 09:33 and say all the nice things about vegetables and fruits 09:36 and exercise and thinking good, 09:38 but don't tell them the real truth. 09:40 ...98% truth is STILL a lie. 09:45 That's the difference, that extra 2% 09:49 There are entities out there who talk about food, 09:52 and about studies and about nutrition and about exercise... 09:56 And so that's a good 98%, it's a good start. Yeah 09:59 Then they talk about good mental health too, that's good too. 10:02 But what is missing? And you've hinted at it now. 10:07 What is missing in this search for truth that so many people 10:11 don't have in their process of looking for truth? 10:14 They've come to a point and they just sort of stop there. 10:17 Heartwise Ministries wants to take them a little bit 10:19 beyond that point. 10:20 WHAT is that you're doing for them? What is that? 10:23 Educate them and you know, so we want to teach them 10:25 about that relation and in the process, 10:27 we want to serve everybody and that's why we 10:29 answer all these questions that come in, 10:31 so we can serve, we can love each other and we can sort of 10:34 point them in that direction. 10:35 So the RELATIONSHIP is that 2% that's missing. 10:38 Well it's probably more than 2%. 10:40 It's probably 99%, but if you have that 10:43 relationship, you have it all. 10:45 If you eat right, if you think right, 10:47 if you do right, you're only 98% there. 10:52 Until you have made that one little jump. No, no, no, no 10:55 I'd say, if you don't have that, you are zero percent there. 10:59 Okay, all right. What does it matter if you 11:01 do everything in the letter of the law, 11:03 and at the end of your days, that's it for Charles Mills. 11:06 Your life was lived for yourself, 11:09 you did everything you could, 11:10 you did everything perfect, 11:11 and then it's over... I'm a perfect dead person. 11:13 You're a perfect dead person, but when you have 11:16 that relationship that transcends everything. 11:20 When you live for a purpose, you're not living for yourself, 11:23 you're living for someone else, you have a purpose in living. 11:26 When you have that purpose in living, 11:28 it helps you do these things for the right reasons. 11:30 You can do everything for the wrong reason, 11:32 and still be healthy, but it's not the kind of health 11:37 we want to have people have forever. 11:39 You know, and you look at the Bible examples... 11:41 A lot of fellows didn't live a long time, 11:43 they gave their life for a cause. 11:45 They believed in what they were doing 11:47 because God sees things much different than we do. 11:50 So I have a lot of people that live by the law perfectly. 11:53 They are perfectly healthy, 11:54 but are they really healthy throughout? 11:57 And that's the definition of what's the definition of health. 12:00 Mine is having that safe relationship with God. 12:04 That's my definition of having good health. 12:06 As long as I have that, I might not have anything else, 12:09 but at least if I have that, that's a great place 12:12 to build truth on. 12:13 Let's talk about that relationship... 12:16 You know, there are many ways of bringing 12:18 healing to the body, there are many methods 12:20 of doing that - modern medicine may be one of the ways, 12:23 the natural ways may be another way. 12:25 Are there many ways coming to God? 12:28 Is there just - here are the steps you need to take 12:31 A, B, C, D, or can we be creative, 12:34 and is God flexible enough to accept our 12:36 searching as we look for Him? 12:38 Well I think if you look at the Scriptures, 12:40 people came to God from many different ways. 12:42 Adam and Eve, in the garden outside, taking care of things. 12:46 Later on, they came in many different ways; 12:48 people out in nature looking at His creations. 12:51 Some people come through church, 12:53 some people come through the spoken Word. 12:55 Sometimes God intervenes in life through other people 12:58 and circumstances. 12:59 Sometimes God, as you let Him take control of your mind, 13:02 He puts thoughts in your mind, 13:04 and leads you each step of the way - where you need to go next. 13:07 So I think it's different for different people. 13:10 You make an interesting point there, 13:12 and I want to talk about it after the break that 13:14 when we search the Scriptures, 13:16 which is a good thing for us to do, it has limitations. 13:20 Believe it or not, the Scriptures do have limitations. 13:22 I wrote an article called, "Love Beyond the Letter" 13:24 It's talking about how we need to search for 13:27 God beyond the Bible. 13:28 The Bible gets us going. 13:30 The Bible gives us a foundation. 13:32 The Bible is there to introduce us to God. 13:35 Just like the love letters my wife and I wrote 13:37 back and forth before we were married, 13:38 introduced us to each other, but should I use those 13:41 love letters then as the foundation and as a continuing 13:44 source of information for my relationship my wife, 13:49 or should I move beyond that and say, "Look, here we are 13:52 in life, here's what we've learned together" 13:54 And I'd like to believe that there is a way for us 13:57 to get to know God, to find truth, 13:59 even beyond the Bible. 14:00 It gets us going, but there is more to it, 14:03 and we'll talk about that on our return, 14:04 so stay right where you are. |
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