Welcome back to the
program, I'm Charles Mills,
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Dr. James Marcum
here, cardiologist
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We're talking about
the biblical statement
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that Solomon made, "As
a man thinketh, so is he"
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What is the connection
between the mind and the body?
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And Dr. Marcum has made it clear
that it's very, very powerful
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that we must not
separate the two;
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that's what we do in our mind
and what we think in our mind...
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ABSOLUTELY affects our body...
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And I'm assuming,
Dr. Marcum, visa versa;
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if we're not
healthy, our minds suffer.
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Yeah, but it's hard when
you give a person a prescription
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like... Why don't you go out and
serve your fellow man today...
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Or why don't you go
out and go outside...
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Or why don't you do one
of these other things...
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They don't see that quite
as a valuable prescription
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as a pill I would
give them to swallow.
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We're going to give you
some good pills to swallow here.
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That's why we try to take
evidence like these fellows
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from Harvard came up
with to prove these things.
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The science is out there to
prove that the Bible is true
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over and over again.
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And that's why
it's very exciting here,
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is treating someone's brain,
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getting their brain to be
more healthy and that will make
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the rest of the body healthy.
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I'm getting to the place
where I think disease starts
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in the brain!
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Starts in the brain!
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Okay, well here
is a question from
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heartwiseministries. org
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We invite you
listener and watcher to
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send your questions in there.
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"I had a heart attack...
" this is the question...
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"I had a heart
attack 3 weeks ago;
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I know I should quit smoking"
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"Does too much stress
trigger heart attacks?"
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There's sort of a strange
little, hidden message here...
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"I know I should quit smoking"
but let's talk about stress...
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"Can smoking
cause a heart attack?"
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Is there a connection there?
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Remember, we weren't
designed to smoke cigarettes.
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So smoking brings us a
lot of toxins in our body.
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It takes away... you
know, carbon monoxide takes away
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oxygen from the cells and
makes our cells constrict;
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makes us more prone to develop
cancer, heart disease, strokes;
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the list goes on and on.
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So cigarettes are not
good, that's a stressor.
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And if you think about it,
all stress that goes against
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the way we were made,
is going to increase the
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chance of us
developing health problems.
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If stress constricts an
artery, and that artery is
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blocked somewhat with
plaque, atherosclerosis,
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is it possible to have a
heart attack simply because
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you're stressful with
atherosclerosis in your artery?
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Yes it is. It
closes it off... Yes it is
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Also, I had a lady not too
long ago that was at a funeral,
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and she was so upset, all
the adrenalin, all the stress
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from the funeral -
they lost their loved one,
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and that was so catastrophic
that she had so much adrenalin
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that the adrenalin caused her
arteries to become completely
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occluded and she
had a heart attack.
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When we studied those arteries,
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those arteries had no
plaque, no blockages at all.
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And we call that "the
broken heart syndrome"
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So extreme amounts of
stress can actually trigger
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heart attacks.
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You know, and it's
scary and, of course,
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anywhere in-between the stress
depending on your genetics -
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is going to affect anyone.
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But needless to say, it is
not good, so this gentleman
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all the stressors of
life including the cigarettes,
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is going to increase his risk,
not only having heart problems,
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but other health problems.
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Because, remember, the
brain controls the whole body.
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If you're not thinking good,
you're not making good decisions
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If you're stressed
out, the blood pressure,
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inflammation is going on in
your body - NOTHING WORKS GOOD.
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So, if you can see, this
is many interworking parts...
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so the heart attack is
really not the problem. Right
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It's what CAUSED
the heart attack...
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And what's going to
cause the future one?
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So when a person comes to me
and they've had a heart attack,
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sure we'll put in a stent.
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We might even do
a bypass surgery...
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But I tell them... THAT
doesn't fix the problem.
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Let's see if we can get
at the underlying causes
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of stress, lower them
and also teach you GOOD ways
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to balance stress.
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There are lots of good
ways we can balance stress
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that's been given to us by God.
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God has taught us lots of ways;
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we've talked about worship;
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we've talked about doing the
things we were designed to do
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like serving, taking
care of, not being scared,
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and how about LAUGHING! Yes
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There's nothing
wrong with laughing!
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Laughing, as-a-matter-of-fact,
you've said that that actually
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released endorphins. Yeah
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There is nothing wrong
with having a good time!
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Having a vacation,
doing these fun things.
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You know,
occasionally have a feast!
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Doing things
that make you happy!
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God wants His people
to be happy, Charles.
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He wants them to
live with lots of love.
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He wants us... and all
this is good for the chemistry.
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I have a lot of people
that come up to me when they
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get older, Charles, and I say,
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"Listen, I've never seen
one 80-year-old that comes
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to the hospital and
says, "I wish I would have
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worked more, Dr. Marcum. "
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"I wish I worked more,
I wish I made more money,
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and I wish this... "
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No, they said, "I wish I
spent more time with my family,
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my friends, my faith"
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That's what they
all say they want to do.
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Our world is topsy-turvy!
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We need to start
getting back to the way we were
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designed to be - the
original model that lowers the
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amount of stress, that deals
with the real problems we have,
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and to change our
chemistry getting at the cause.
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So this fellow,
he's got lots of stress.
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Stress starts in the brain,
disease starts in the brain,
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and we want to encourage
him to do the best he can.
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I would start with the
cigarette stressor first.
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Because if you can
quit smoking cigarettes,
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within a year, you can lower
your risk of heart attack by 50%
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...just from
stopping cigarettes.
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But if you add all these
little stresses up in our lives,
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put them all together,
it's no wonder we have so many
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heart attacks every year.
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All this health
problem - it's just terrible,
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and that's why we want to
get people this news out there.
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They can go to our website...
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heartwiseministries. org
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...write us questions.
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We have lots of
different articles that people
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can share with their friends.
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We want other people to
learn about these things
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because when
they do, guess what?
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They realize there is an
Ultimate Physician that is
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loving them, that's
taking care of them,
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that they can make
an appointment with,
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that gives the best
health recommendations ever!
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All right! Okay, question #2...
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"What are some
methods other than Xanax to
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lower my stress load?"
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"Xanax did bring
down my blood pressure"
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So it was working, but I'm
glad they're saying here...
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Are there some other methods
because you've always said
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that drugs are temporary.
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We should just
take them for a while.
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And I applaud that person...
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Now some people do
have mental health problems,
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and have bad genetics
and need medicines forever,
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but some don't and this person
recognizes that they're stressed
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and they're on a
medicine to deal with stress...
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But if you can find
out what the stressor is,
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maybe you can deal with it.
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It might be a job
that you're unhappy with.
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The stress might be
not getting enough rest.
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It might be stimulants
that are causing stress.
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It might be things in your
past that have caused stress.
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It might be fears in your life.
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But should our GOAL
be to remove the stress
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or should our goal be to learn
how to live with the stress,
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to learn how to deal
with the stress. Yeah
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A combination, Charles,
and that's a great question
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because all the stress that we
can remove, we want to remove it
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For instance, if you and your
family live in a place that has
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lots of toxins
and bad environments,
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and you can get
away from that stress...
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You can move... Yeah
but if you can't do it,
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you can't do it. Yeah
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And then if you
have to deal with stress,
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then you say, "Well
what are healthy ways
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I can deal with stress?"
Okay, all right, I got ya
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And healthy ways you can
deal with stress are the things
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that God gave us;
helping other people;
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getting enough
rest; eating good food;
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living the life that
we were designed to be;
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being HAPPY;
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trying to move
fear out of our lives.
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You know, all of
those things will help
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head us in the right direction.
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So if this person is on
anxiety, the first person
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I want to applaud
them, do some things that
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will help lower anxiety.
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Exercise programs work great.
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Getting on good
nutrition works great.
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Cutting back
stimulants works great.
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Helping other
people works great.
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And sometimes that's ENOUGH
to change your chemistry enough
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that you don't need to be
a crutch on this medicine.
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All right, very good!
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Okay, another question
from heartwiseministries. org
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"I read that stress
can be GOOD for a person,
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I also heard
stories that it can be bad"
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"Which is it, good or bad?"
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Yeah, we hear that a lot.
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Remember, God made us to
have this stress response
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to move away from disasters.
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If we have a lion chasing us
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or if we're scared in
the middle of the night,
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or we need a
little extra energy,
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we kick these up to
keep us alive... Yeah
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But these were only made
for short periods of time.
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Can you imagine if the
stress response is turned on
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over months and
months, years and years,
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and all of the
turned-on chemistry,
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that's why sooner or
later, people have ulcers...
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Welcome to LIFE! YES!
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They have high blood pressure.
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They have all of this
stuff that's going on;
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mental health
problems, inflammation,
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the cells attacking the body
that doesn't need to be there.
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If it happens years
and years, then guess what?
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Our solution is
to give medicines!
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But our solution
might be just understand
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...well, what us
causing the stress?
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What is off-balance here?
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And if we can
work on those things,
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maybe we don't need as many
medicines to deal with all this.
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And really, we've got to help
people understand their mind,
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making their mind healthier...
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And I think that
the worship thing,
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that is scientifically
proven now, we know it helps.
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The text in Matthew that
says, "Come unto Me, worship Me
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all you that have the stress
response turned on all the time,
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"Come and worship Me"
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That's part of
the solution here.
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That's a prescription we
want you to add to the regimen.
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Don't ignore it...
When you ignore it,
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it could make things worse.
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It is so
important that we recognize
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that there is
stress in the life;
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some of it can't be
taken care of, some of it can,
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and what we CAN
remove, we need to remove.
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We need to work
very hard at that.
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What we CAN'T remove,
we need to learn how to
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deal with it in a good way.
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Can we do that alone?
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Is it possible for us to
live a life that is just free of
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stress and everything is fine,
sort of the Pollyanna effect.
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Is it possible to do that
or is it even healthy to that?
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I don't think it's possible
to and I look back to...
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Well, what does the Bible
teach us about these things?
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Well God had the stress
that came into our world
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that messed everything up,
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so the stress is
going to be there.
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We all have to do
the best we can with it.
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But I do think
we're not determined
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to move through this alone.
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I think there's help
for us and I think that the
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Ultimate Physician, God,
He wants to be our physician
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that helps heal us through
all of this illness that we have
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that has brought on the world.
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I think we have help there.
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We always have to ask it,
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and we also are
promised to have healing.
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It might not be right
away through modern medicine;
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it might be down the road;
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it might be
through a relationship,
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but it's in that relationship
that God can help heal us
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and deal with this
chronic stress that we all have.
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Well, we're going
to take a short break,
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and when we come
back, we're going to do
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exactly what you said.
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We are going to spend
some time talking to the
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Master Physician,
the Source of Peace,
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The Source of Love that
we need so much in our life
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is available
anytime, like Dr. Marcum says,
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no appointment necessary
and you won't get a bill.
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That's talking to God in prayer
and we're going to do that
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with Dr. James
Marcum in just a moment,
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so stay right where you are...
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What an interesting
discussion we've had today,
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and just think about
it, I hope this has added
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value to your life and at
least 1 or 2 things that you can
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take from this
moment and use in your life.
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One of the things realizing
that your mind does matter.
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There are real chemical changes
that happen the way you think.
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So if you find yourself getting
mad, take some deep breaths!
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Figure out what you're doing;
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try to improve your chemistry.
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I think this is going to be
very important because remember,
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"As a man thinketh, so he is"
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And in Matthew, God has given
us a wonderful prescription
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that He gives us as
the Ultimate Healer.
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He says, "Come unto
me, worship me, be with me,
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have a friendship with
me, all you that labor,
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and have heavy
labor, all you that are
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stressed out by this world"
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...Some things we
can't even change;
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some things we
can't do anything about,
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if you're in that mode,
I've given you a treatment,
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"Come unto me and
I will give you rest"
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We now have science
to prove this chemistry.
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We see our brains
improve as we worship.
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All these great things
- it just makes me excited
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when I talk about
these, let's pray together...
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Father God... I want
to thank You for being a
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God that loves us and for
taking our minds and using
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them and making them better.
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And Father, I want to
pray for those out there today
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that You will come into
our minds as we worship You
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make them stronger, turn
off this stress chemistry
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and give us this
peace and better health
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is our prayer... Amen
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I want to thank you
again for joining us.
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If you have a question
that you might want to give us,
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go to our website
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