Participants: James Marcum & Charles Mills
Series Code: UP
Program Code: UP00041A
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00:16 Well, they did it...
00:18 As far as medical science is concerned, 00:20 if you are overweight, you are not just FAT, 00:24 you're SICK... with a disease! 00:27 Really? Stay tuned... 00:32 I'm Dr. James Marcum. 00:34 Are you interested in discovering the reason why? 00:37 Do you want solutions to your healthcare problems? 00:40 Are you tired of taking medications? 00:44 Well, you're about to be given the "Ultimate Prescription" 00:50 Well, it was bound to happen 00:53 in this world of a pill for every ill. 00:55 The American Medical Association has now dumped 00:58 the vast majority of us into the disease pool. 01:01 How? By identifying obesity 01:04 as a disease... right up there with cancer, heart ailments, 01:07 and the common cold. 01:09 Now it's perfectly okay for us to say to a coworker, 01:11 "You know, maybe you should go home and rest, you look fat!" 01:16 Dr. Marcum, am I overreacting here 01:18 or is there something we need to know? 01:19 Well you might be overreacting just a little bit, Charles 01:23 But I think it's very important, you know, 01:26 what we've been doing is, I look at all the different 01:29 health topics that are out there in the United States, 01:33 and what we do is... we look at them, 01:35 see what they have to say, 01:36 and then we put a biblical spin to it. 01:39 But we do a little bit different, 01:41 we recognize the place for modern medicine 01:43 especially with acute care needs. 01:46 There's a special nutrition and a good brain, 01:49 but it's in that relationship with God 01:51 that we bring things together... 01:52 And unfortunately, some of these articles - I don't see that. 01:56 Now, in this article that you referred to, 01:58 The New York Times Service, they reported, 02:01 The New York Times, that the American Medical Association 02:04 has officially designated obesity as a disease. 02:09 So if that's true, lots of people now have disease. 02:12 Now this move... now remember, the American Medical Association 02:16 did this... this move was reportedly done 02:19 to encourage physicians to take a more active role 02:22 with their patients who have this condition, 02:24 recognizing that obesity, if doctors know about it, 02:30 they'll say more and they'll do more... 02:32 But you know what? It's hard to talk about 02:34 the subject, Charles. 02:36 We're going to try to talk about it today. 02:39 It's hard to - you love them enough to tell them that 02:43 that they need to work on something to lose weight. 02:45 But we're going to not only talk about that 02:47 a little bit today, but we're going to give everyone 02:49 some strategies. 02:51 Two strategies to help not only THEM lose weight today, 02:55 but also their friends and neighbors. 02:57 Just 2 words are going to help everyone understand 03:00 and do a little bit better on weight management - 03:02 because this doesn't happen in a night. 03:05 Now the AMA, Charles, really doesn't have any 03:08 authority to do this, okay? 03:10 But it did have a lot of physicians in that group 03:13 so they thought they could make this declaration. 03:16 Now, it comes at an interesting time... 03:19 Now get this Charles, that 2 new obesity drugs 03:22 THERE IT IS! I KNEW THAT WAS COMING! 03:25 Two new obesity drugs are coming out. YES 03:27 One is spelled "Qsymia" Qsymia, 03:31 and the other one is "Belvic" 03:33 They've now entered the market. 03:34 Now these are not the first medicines that 03:36 have entered the market. 03:37 Years ago, we had one called "Fen-Phen" 03:40 That was in the market, removed from the market. 03:42 We've had other ones through the years. 03:44 There's lots of weight loss supplements. 03:46 Lots of them have things that would speed up 03:48 your metabolism, so they put thyroid in them, 03:51 and they had low grade amphetamines, things like that. 03:55 But now, we have these new medicines out there now 03:57 entering the market and now, guess what? 03:59 We have a new disease! Remember? 04:01 THAT's what I thought, when I read this... 04:03 When you sent this to me and I read it, 04:04 I said, "SOMEONE IS TRYING TO MAKE MONEY HERE" 04:07 There are dollar signs rolling around 04:09 in somebody's eyes someplace here. 04:11 Now, in the United States, for instance, 04:13 2 and 3 people carry extra weight... 04:16 so we're going to hear more and more about this disease, 04:19 new drugs for it, supplements which speeds up metabolisms. 04:23 We're going to hear more about bariatric surgery. 04:25 Do you know what bariatric surgery is? 04:27 Yeah, they bypass part of the... 04:28 They can either bypass the stomach, 04:30 or they can put things like little clips on your 04:33 esophagus so food can't get through them. 04:35 That's going to be another thing, 04:37 but the question I want to throw out for all of us today, 04:40 as we talk about this and we think about 04:42 really, what's going on... is why is this happening? 04:46 Now I agree that this is one of the nation's largest 04:50 health issues and that's why we're talking about it. 04:52 We are not going to ignore it here! 04:54 BUT WE"RE NOT FAT because we're not taking a drug! 04:58 Right! They're trying to make 05:00 the connection there and that's what just gets me going. 05:02 They want to make that connection. 05:04 Can you imagine if a person would get reimbursed 05:08 NOT for giving a medication, 05:09 but for sitting down someone and talking to them 05:12 and understanding why do they carry extra weight. 05:15 This is a complex issue. 05:16 It might have to do with genetics; 05:19 it might have to be with someone's behavior 05:23 because it may be because they eat because they're depressed; 05:25 it might be because they just eat too much and don't exercise. 05:29 It's usually a multifaceted thing, 05:31 and we know that none of the pills, none of the weight loss 05:34 solutions work long-term. 05:37 So if we think about it that way, 05:39 they're sort of setting themselves up to fail. 05:42 So they got a new disease, just like type 2 diabetes. 05:45 They're going to be graded by some agency that says. 05:48 "Unless you're doing this, this, and this, 05:50 you're not a good doctor, 05:52 and unless you're doing this, this and this, 05:54 you're not a good patient... 05:55 And yet, we're not answering the reason why. 05:58 This is a catastrophe. 06:00 But I'm going to leave... you know, 06:01 I have 2 words that's going to help people today 06:04 that might carry extra weight that want to help their friends, 06:07 that want to help their neighbors. 06:08 Two words that can serve as treatment for people. 06:12 This is very exciting, Charles! Yeah 06:14 You've never heard it anywhere before. 06:15 You want me to give them to you now, 06:16 or you want me to wait a while. I do, I do, I can hardly wait. 06:18 No, no - I want them now. Okay 06:19 Okay, it's not the new drugs, Qsymia and Belvic. 06:22 It's NOT bariatric surgery. 06:25 It's not a special weight loss plan, 06:27 even though that that could be worked in it. 06:29 It's not more exercise. 06:30 It's not more drinking water, even though 06:32 that's helpful speeding up your metabolism. 06:34 What it is, is this... 06:36 It's loving, NOT judging. 06:41 Those are the things that I'd like to explore with us today 06:44 as we talk about weight management... 06:46 Loving people and not judging them. 06:48 We have to meet people where they are in life, 06:52 understand them, love them enough to talk 06:55 to them about it, have them have enough love 06:57 in their life to get the power from God to change this 07:01 to make some changes, and in the process, 07:03 if we judge people, guess what? 07:05 It's just like a dagger in them. 07:07 If I come up and say, "Charles, you are FAT!" 07:10 "You're FAT, Charles" 07:12 "You have a disease, Charles" Yes, yes 07:14 "No, you don't take care of yourself, Charles" 07:17 What does that accomplish? 07:20 Charles, you're going to get diabetes and high blood pressure 07:22 and sleep apnea and you're going to 07:24 wear out your joints, Charles. 07:26 All these - you're going to have a higher risk of cancer, Charles 07:28 All this because you carry extra weight, Charles. 07:31 You know, but 6 out of 10 people have this. 07:33 And that's the judging you're talking about. YES! 07:35 As we do that, does that accomplish anything? 07:39 No it does not and yet... now doctors are having to 07:42 approach patients in a short period of time, 07:45 how are they going to do this? 07:47 They're NOT... They're going to say, 07:49 "Well, here's your options" 07:50 "Do you want a medicine, 07:51 do you want this or you want this?" 07:53 Because you're sick and you have a disease. Yes! 07:55 And they're not going to get at the real reason WHY. 07:58 And we've done this with other diseases too. 08:01 We've done this with type 2 diabetes. 08:03 We've done this to a large extent with blood pressure. 08:05 Rather than get at the cause of WHY, we give them a pill. 08:09 We've done this with sleeping pills, 08:10 and people sleeping at night. 08:12 We've done this with other things. 08:14 It's the easiest thing to do. 08:16 But today, as we talk today to our people out there... 08:19 You know, the approach that I want people to have is 08:21 love and not judge. 08:25 When we start doing this thing, 08:26 when we start loving each other, guess what? 08:28 God has some great plans and 08:30 and gives us the power to do these things. 08:31 Almost everyone knows the basics of speeding up the metabolism. 08:35 Charles, I'm going to teach you the basics. 08:36 Do you know the basics of speeding up your metabolism? 08:38 Share with me... Okay 08:39 #1- is you want to move, you want to move the parts. 08:42 You've got to exercise! 08:43 You've got to get those cells, that mitochondria 08:45 working and doing things. 08:47 So you got to get in some type of movement program. 08:49 So if I was approaching someone and I wanted to love them, 08:52 I'd say, "Listen, I know you haven't done much moving 08:54 in the past, but just start with 1 minute of doing this a day, 08:58 and build on it and ask the Lord to give you that victory 09:02 that day and go the second day" Okay? 09:04 Love them into doing something and PRAISE THEM! 09:07 "Man, you did great!" 09:08 "You're increasing your metabolism!" 09:10 You want to pick another way to increase your metabolism? 09:12 How about drinking water? 09:14 That will increase your metabolism. 09:16 How about this... Eating fruits and vegetables 09:18 because it increases your transit time! 09:20 Things move through you quick and digest better! 09:24 It pulls some of these bad things out. 09:26 Eat healthier foods and it starts in the process. 09:29 How about speed up your metabolism 09:30 by getting enough REST! 09:32 You know when people are tired, their metabolism changes too. 09:35 They disrupt their circadian rhythms. 09:38 So all these things we can start doing, 09:40 but we do it because... I love you enough to teach 09:43 you how to do these things, 09:44 and I LOVE you enough not to judge you. 09:47 Because if you feel like you're judged, 09:49 you're never going to do it for the right reasons. 09:52 And we also have to come at this as well 09:55 that the person to whom you're saying this 09:58 has to love themselves because if I don't love me, 10:01 I'm not going to do what is necessary to take care of me. 10:04 If I don't love me, I'm not going to do the hard work 10:08 necessary - the changing of the diet, the exercise. 10:12 If I don't love me, I'm not going to go out of my way. 10:15 So the love is not only you-to-me, 10:17 but me-to-me as well in health. 10:20 Exactly Charles and that's why this condition is much more 10:24 broad than it's being painted right now. 10:27 This is a societal thing and we look back what's happened 10:30 over the years and years and as we've gotten busy, 10:33 where we eat fast foods, we stay inside 10:36 instead of outside, we have more stress, 10:39 and we tend to eat more when we shouldn't, 10:40 we take more in, we have a tendency to eat 10:42 convenience food and not pick stuff and raise it ourselves. 10:46 All of these things have added up, 10:48 so if you really think about the solution, 10:50 it's getting back to the way God made us to be... 10:54 And it starts with loving each other and not judging each other 10:58 Once we get back that way, then we say, 11:00 "Yeah, maybe I can start doing these things" 11:03 Unless those components are in place, 11:05 then people feel - Oh man, you know, 11:07 have you ever watched - there's a TV show on 11:09 called, "The Biggest Losers" Oh yes... 11:12 I seen this several times. 11:13 But people get on there and I look at all the emotions 11:17 they go through ups and downs. 11:18 And I'm wondering, that couldn't be good for a person's psyche. 11:22 You know, 1 or 2 are successful but how many 11:25 are not successful and how many can do this? 11:28 Do we have the answers today? 11:30 No, I don't think we're going to have all the answers. 11:32 This is an ongoing problem. 11:35 But there's going to be 1 or 2 people out there 11:37 that are really struggling to lose weight and want to... 11:41 And I want them to know that the key is to have more 11:44 love in our lives and not judge each other. 11:47 Now where does the source of love come from? 11:49 It comes from God. 11:51 That relationship with God that gives you the power. 11:53 Now judging people, that's hard in our society. 11:57 I had someone that was refused 11:59 a job one time just because they carried extra weight. 12:01 It was never SAID, but it was true. 12:04 People are stigmatized. 12:06 You look at some of the fancy things on TV... 12:08 You know, if you're not exactly perfect, 12:10 I'm not going to put you on TV or on this or on that. 12:13 But we can't have that approach anymore 12:16 because that's not going to be the best way to health. 12:18 This is very important for us to know because we are all, 12:21 and you have made this clear on this program several times, 12:23 that we are all healers; 12:25 that one of our main tasks in this world is to go to 12:28 our friends and neighbors, to our family members, 12:29 AND TO OURSELF and try to make us feel better, 12:33 look better, live longer and live healthier than we are now. 12:36 LOVE has to be the motivating factor behind 12:39 any information that we give to people. 12:41 If I go to you and say, "You know, I want you to 12:43 live a long time, I want you to have a 12:46 strong body, I want your arteries to be clear, 12:48 and I want you to exercise, 12:50 and I want you to eat these foods. " 12:51 That's a whole lot different than saying, 12:52 "You know, you're overweight, look how dangerous this is" 12:56 This is going to happen to you, this is going to happen to you, 12:57 this is going to happen to you. 12:58 Instead say, "Here are the positive things" 13:00 That's the way God loves us, have you noticed that? 13:03 And NOT be snookered by thinking, 13:07 "Oh, here are 2 medicines that are going 13:08 to fix all my problems" 13:09 You know that quick it's going to be gone! 13:11 American Medical Association said this is the way it is, 13:14 so we're going to call it a disease; 13:16 therefore, we're going to fix it... 13:17 And then, sometimes when they call it a disease, 13:19 "Oh, it's not anyone's fault, it's just a disease" 13:22 It's a disease, you caught it! You have it now. 13:23 Yes, I got a BIG case of obesity... And guess what? 13:26 We can fix it because we understand this. 13:29 You know, and that's the thing 13:31 we have to be very, very careful about as we 13:33 approach this new health issue. 13:35 I'm sure that listener and viewer, you have a lot of 13:38 questions on this topic and one of things you can do is go to 13:40 heartwiseministries. org 13:42 and leave the questions for us, 13:43 and we will address them right here on the program 13:45 like we will when we return to Dr. Marcum talking about 13:48 the disease of obesity, so stay tuned... |
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