Well, they did it...
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As far as medical
science is concerned,
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if you are overweight,
you are not just FAT,
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you're SICK... with a disease!
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Really? Stay tuned...
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I'm Dr. James Marcum.
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Are you interested in
discovering the reason why?
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Do you want solutions to
your healthcare problems?
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Are you tired of
taking medications?
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Well, you're about to be given
the "Ultimate Prescription"
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Well, it was bound to happen
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in this world of a
pill for every ill.
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The American Medical
Association has now dumped
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the vast majority of
us into the disease pool.
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How? By identifying obesity
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as a disease... right up there
with cancer, heart ailments,
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and the common cold.
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Now it's perfectly okay
for us to say to a coworker,
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"You know, maybe you should
go home and rest, you look fat!"
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Dr. Marcum, am I
overreacting here
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or is there
something we need to know?
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Well you might be overreacting
just a little bit, Charles
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But I think it's
very important, you know,
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what we've been doing is,
I look at all the different
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health topics that are out
there in the United States,
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and what we do
is... we look at them,
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see what they have to say,
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and then we put a
biblical spin to it.
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But we do a
little bit different,
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we recognize the
place for modern medicine
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especially with
acute care needs.
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There's a special
nutrition and a good brain,
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but it's in that
relationship with God
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that we bring things together...
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And unfortunately, some of these
articles - I don't see that.
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Now, in this article
that you referred to,
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The New York Times
Service, they reported,
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The New York Times, that
the American Medical Association
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has officially
designated obesity as a disease.
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So if that's true, lots
of people now have disease.
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Now this move... now remember,
the American Medical Association
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did this... this
move was reportedly done
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to encourage physicians
to take a more active role
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with their patients
who have this condition,
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recognizing that obesity,
if doctors know about it,
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they'll say more
and they'll do more...
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But you know what?
It's hard to talk about
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the subject, Charles.
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We're going to try
to talk about it today.
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It's hard to - you love
them enough to tell them that
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that they need to work
on something to lose weight.
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But we're going to
not only talk about that
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a little bit today, but
we're going to give everyone
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some strategies.
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Two strategies to help not
only THEM lose weight today,
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but also their
friends and neighbors.
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Just 2 words are going
to help everyone understand
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and do a little bit
better on weight management -
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because this
doesn't happen in a night.
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Now the AMA, Charles,
really doesn't have any
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authority to do this, okay?
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But it did have a lot
of physicians in that group
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so they thought they
could make this declaration.
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Now, it comes at
an interesting time...
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Now get this Charles,
that 2 new obesity drugs
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THERE IT IS! I
KNEW THAT WAS COMING!
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Two new obesity
drugs are coming out. YES
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One is spelled "Qsymia" Qsymia,
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and the other one is "Belvic"
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They've now entered the market.
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Now these are not
the first medicines that
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have entered the market.
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Years ago, we had
one called "Fen-Phen"
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That was in the market,
removed from the market.
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We've had other
ones through the years.
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There's lots of
weight loss supplements.
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Lots of them have
things that would speed up
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your metabolism, so
they put thyroid in them,
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and they had low grade
amphetamines, things like that.
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But now, we have these
new medicines out there now
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entering the market
and now, guess what?
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We have a new disease! Remember?
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THAT's what I
thought, when I read this...
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When you sent this
to me and I read it,
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I said, "SOMEONE IS
TRYING TO MAKE MONEY HERE"
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There are dollar
signs rolling around
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in somebody's
eyes someplace here.
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Now, in the United
States, for instance,
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2 and 3 people
carry extra weight...
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so we're going to hear more
and more about this disease,
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new drugs for it, supplements
which speeds up metabolisms.
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We're going to hear
more about bariatric surgery.
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Do you know what
bariatric surgery is?
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Yeah, they bypass part of the...
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They can either
bypass the stomach,
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or they can put things
like little clips on your
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esophagus so food
can't get through them.
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That's going to
be another thing,
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but the question I want to
throw out for all of us today,
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as we talk about
this and we think about
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really, what's going
on... is why is this happening?
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Now I agree that this is
one of the nation's largest
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health issues and that's
why we're talking about it.
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We are not going
to ignore it here!
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BUT WE"RE NOT FAT
because we're not taking a drug!
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Right! They're trying to make
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the connection there and
that's what just gets me going.
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They want to
make that connection.
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Can you imagine if a
person would get reimbursed
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NOT for giving a medication,
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but for sitting down
someone and talking to them
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and understanding why
do they carry extra weight.
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This is a complex issue.
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It might have to
do with genetics;
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it might have to be
with someone's behavior
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because it may be because they
eat because they're depressed;
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it might be because they just
eat too much and don't exercise.
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It's usually a
multifaceted thing,
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and we know that none of the
pills, none of the weight loss
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solutions work long-term.
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So if we think
about it that way,
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they're sort of
setting themselves up to fail.
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So they got a new disease,
just like type 2 diabetes.
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They're going to be
graded by some agency that says.
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"Unless you're doing
this, this, and this,
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you're not a good doctor,
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and unless you're
doing this, this and this,
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you're not a good patient...
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And yet, we're not
answering the reason why.
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This is a catastrophe.
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But I'm going to
leave... you know,
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I have 2 words that's
going to help people today
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that might carry extra weight
that want to help their friends,
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that want to
help their neighbors.
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Two words that can
serve as treatment for people.
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This is very
exciting, Charles! Yeah
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You've never heard
it anywhere before.
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You want me to
give them to you now,
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or you want me to wait a while.
I do, I do, I can hardly wait.
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No, no - I want them now. Okay
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Okay, it's not the new
drugs, Qsymia and Belvic.
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It's NOT bariatric surgery.
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It's not a
special weight loss plan,
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even though that that
could be worked in it.
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It's not more exercise.
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It's not more
drinking water, even though
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that's helpful
speeding up your metabolism.
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What it is, is this...
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It's loving, NOT judging.
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Those are the things that I'd
like to explore with us today
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as we talk about
weight management...
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Loving people
and not judging them.
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We have to meet people
where they are in life,
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understand them,
love them enough to talk
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to them about it,
have them have enough love
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in their life to get the
power from God to change this
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to make some
changes, and in the process,
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if we judge people, guess what?
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It's just like a dagger in them.
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If I come up and say,
"Charles, you are FAT!"
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"You're FAT, Charles"
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"You have a
disease, Charles" Yes, yes
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"No, you don't take
care of yourself, Charles"
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What does that accomplish?
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Charles, you're going to get
diabetes and high blood pressure
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and sleep apnea
and you're going to
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wear out your joints, Charles.
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All these - you're going to have
a higher risk of cancer, Charles
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All this because you
carry extra weight, Charles.
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You know, but 6 out
of 10 people have this.
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And that's the judging
you're talking about. YES!
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As we do that, does
that accomplish anything?
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No it does not and
yet... now doctors are having to
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approach patients in
a short period of time,
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how are they going to do this?
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They're NOT...
They're going to say,
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"Well, here's your options"
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"Do you want a medicine,
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do you want this
or you want this?"
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Because you're sick and
you have a disease. Yes!
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And they're not going to
get at the real reason WHY.
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And we've done this
with other diseases too.
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We've done this
with type 2 diabetes.
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We've done this to a large
extent with blood pressure.
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Rather than get at the cause
of WHY, we give them a pill.
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We've done this
with sleeping pills,
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and people sleeping at night.
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We've done this
with other things.
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It's the easiest thing to do.
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But today, as we talk
today to our people out there...
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You know, the approach
that I want people to have is
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love and not judge.
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When we start doing this thing,
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when we start loving
each other, guess what?
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God has some great plans and
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and gives us the
power to do these things.
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Almost everyone knows the basics
of speeding up the metabolism.
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Charles, I'm going
to teach you the basics.
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Do you know the basics of
speeding up your metabolism?
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Share with me... Okay
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#1- is you want to move,
you want to move the parts.
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You've got to exercise!
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You've got to get those
cells, that mitochondria
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working and doing things.
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So you got to get in
some type of movement program.
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So if I was approaching someone
and I wanted to love them,
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I'd say, "Listen, I know
you haven't done much moving
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in the past, but just start with
1 minute of doing this a day,
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and build on it and ask the
Lord to give you that victory
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that day and go
the second day" Okay?
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Love them into doing
something and PRAISE THEM!
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"Man, you did great!"
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"You're
increasing your metabolism!"
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You want to pick another
way to increase your metabolism?
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How about drinking water?
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That will
increase your metabolism.
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How about this...
Eating fruits and vegetables
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because it
increases your transit time!
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Things move through you
quick and digest better!
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It pulls some of
these bad things out.
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Eat healthier foods and
it starts in the process.
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How about speed
up your metabolism
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by getting enough REST!
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You know when people are tired,
their metabolism changes too.
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They disrupt
their circadian rhythms.
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So all these
things we can start doing,
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but we do it because...
I love you enough to teach
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you how to do these things,
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and I LOVE you
enough not to judge you.
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Because if you
feel like you're judged,
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you're never going to do
it for the right reasons.
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And we also have to
come at this as well
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that the person to
whom you're saying this
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has to love themselves
because if I don't love me,
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I'm not going to do what is
necessary to take care of me.
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If I don't love me, I'm
not going to do the hard work
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necessary - the changing
of the diet, the exercise.
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If I don't love me, I'm
not going to go out of my way.
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So the love is
not only you-to-me,
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but me-to-me as well in health.
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Exactly Charles and that's
why this condition is much more
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broad than it's
being painted right now.
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This is a societal thing
and we look back what's happened
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over the years and years
and as we've gotten busy,
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where we eat fast
foods, we stay inside
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instead of outside,
we have more stress,
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and we tend to eat
more when we shouldn't,
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we take more in, we
have a tendency to eat
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convenience food and not pick
stuff and raise it ourselves.
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All of these
things have added up,
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so if you really
think about the solution,
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it's getting back to
the way God made us to be...
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And it starts with loving each
other and not judging each other
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Once we get back
that way, then we say,
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"Yeah, maybe I can
start doing these things"
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Unless those
components are in place,
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then people feel
- Oh man, you know,
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have you ever watched
- there's a TV show on
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called, "The
Biggest Losers" Oh yes...
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I seen this several times.
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But people get on there
and I look at all the emotions
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they go through ups and downs.
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And I'm wondering, that couldn't
be good for a person's psyche.
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You know, 1 or 2 are
successful but how many
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are not successful
and how many can do this?
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Do we have the answers today?
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No, I don't think we're
going to have all the answers.
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This is an ongoing problem.
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But there's going to
be 1 or 2 people out there
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that are really struggling
to lose weight and want to...
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And I want them to know
that the key is to have more
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love in our lives
and not judge each other.
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Now where does the
source of love come from?
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It comes from God.
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That relationship with
God that gives you the power.
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Now judging people,
that's hard in our society.
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I had someone that was refused
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a job one time just because
they carried extra weight.
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It was never
SAID, but it was true.
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People are stigmatized.
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You look at some of
the fancy things on TV...
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You know, if you're
not exactly perfect,
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I'm not going to put you
on TV or on this or on that.
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But we can't have
that approach anymore
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because that's not going
to be the best way to health.
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This is very important for
us to know because we are all,
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and you have made this clear
on this program several times,
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that we are all healers;
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that one of our main
tasks in this world is to go to
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our friends and neighbors,
to our family members,
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AND TO OURSELF and try
to make us feel better,
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look better, live longer and
live healthier than we are now.
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LOVE has to be the
motivating factor behind
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any information
that we give to people.
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If I go to you and say,
"You know, I want you to
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live a long time,
I want you to have a
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strong body, I want
your arteries to be clear,
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and I want you to exercise,
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and I want you to
eat these foods. "
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That's a whole lot
different than saying,
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"You know, you're overweight,
look how dangerous this is"
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This is going to happen to you,
this is going to happen to you,
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this is going to happen to you.
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Instead say, "Here
are the positive things"
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That's the way God loves
us, have you noticed that?
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And NOT be
snookered by thinking,
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"Oh, here are 2
medicines that are going
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to fix all my problems"
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You know that quick
it's going to be gone!
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American Medical Association
said this is the way it is,
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so we're going to
call it a disease;
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therefore, we're
going to fix it...
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And then, sometimes
when they call it a disease,
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"Oh, it's not anyone's
fault, it's just a disease"
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It's a disease, you
caught it! You have it now.
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Yes, I got a BIG case of
obesity... And guess what?
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We can fix it
because we understand this.
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You know, and that's the thing
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we have to be very,
very careful about as we
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approach this new health issue.
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I'm sure that listener
and viewer, you have a lot of
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questions on this topic and one
of things you can do is go to
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heartwiseministries. org
00:13:40.82\00:13:42.53
and leave the questions for us,
00:13:42.56\00:13:43.86
and we will address them
right here on the program
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like we will when we return
to Dr. Marcum talking about
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the disease of
obesity, so stay tuned...
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