Participants: Dr. James Marcum (Host), Charles Mills
Series Code: UP
Program Code: UP00039A
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00:16 We've often said that the best medicine for fighting
00:18 disease are found in your grocery store. 00:21 But you got to know where to aim your cart. 00:25 Stay tuned. 00:28 I'm doctor James Marcum, are you interested in discovering 00:31 the reason why, do you want solutions to your 00:34 healthcare problems? 00:35 Are you tired of taking medications? 00:38 Well you are about to be given the Ultimate Prescription. 00:44 It is shopping day, you park your car out in front of 00:47 the local grocery store and head for the entrance. 00:49 In your pocket is your shopping list filled with family 00:53 and personal favorites. The question today is 00:56 if you want to fight disease, if you want to protect yourself 00:59 and those you love against common ailments 01:02 as well as those ailments that can kill us all 01:04 what should be on that list? 01:07 Dr. Marcum, tell us what we need to know. 01:10 Well Charles we need to know a lot of things about nutrition. 01:14 I guess the first thing that we need to know is 01:16 you are what you eat. Ok! You are what you eat, 01:20 and Hippocrates once said let food be thy medicine, 01:24 and medicine be thy food. 01:25 So it's real important the food we ingest in our bodies, 01:30 and if we look back at the rise of disease, 01:33 especially chronic disease as well as cardiovascular disease, 01:37 cancer, all these diseases. We look back to how our 01:40 nutritional status has changed and if you think back 01:44 a couple hundred years ago we were eating much different 01:47 than we are eating now. Yes! Yes! 01:48 We're eating a lot of fresh stuff, there wasn't a lot 01:50 of refrigerating, there wasn't a lot of processing, 01:53 there wasn't condensing food into smaller products. 01:57 There wasn't big conglomerates of companies trying to sell you 02:01 more and more, we didn't eat fast foods, 02:04 the cooking processes, the storage processes were 02:08 different, we didn't use a lot of chemicals to protect 02:11 the food and keep them going longer, 02:14 we didn't have a lot of additives that might even have 02:16 addictive substances. 02:18 So the way we did things long ago were different and also 02:21 the nutrient composition was much different. 02:24 Yes! That's true. Now over the last 100 years 02:27 we're eating more protein and fat than we've ever 02:30 eaten before, in fact we haven't had this forever, 02:33 they only really described what protein was about 02:35 in the 1840's, they talked about protein and then 02:38 everyone jumped on the band wagon, it's we have to have it. 02:42 And then it went to that and then we said well, 02:44 we have to have animal protein and then everything said 02:48 you know if you don't have it you are going to die, 02:49 your going to do poorly and yet we made these big shifts. 02:52 Even the Federal Drug Administration says we 02:55 have to have large amounts of protein, 02:56 we have to have large amounts of fat in our diet. 02:59 But if you look back at all the cultures of all times... 03:03 Ok! I'm going to quiz you a little bit Charles. Ok! Alright! 03:06 The first ones you can probably get. 03:09 What was the predominant food of people that lived 03:12 in the far east? Rice! 03:14 Right! You got that right. A starch based carbohydrate food, 03:17 that's what they base things on. 03:19 How about the Aztec's, what did they predominately eat? 03:23 Corn and beans. They were people of corn. 03:25 This one, most people don't get this one. Ok! 03:28 How about the Inca's, the people that lived... 03:31 What are the people that lived in Peru called? 03:32 They were Peruvians. What were those that lived in 03:35 the Peru? Well, I'll give you a hint. 03:38 They were people of potatoes. Ok. Another starch based food. 03:41 Yes, absolutely. Even in the middle east there were people 03:44 that ate lots of grains. So all of these were starch 03:47 based diet, they weren't animal based diet, 03:51 they weren't filled with lots of protein and lots of fat. 03:54 Ok, now follow me for a moment. A lot of the foods we eat, 03:59 the beans, the protein, it still has protein in it, 04:01 it still has a little bit of fat, but it is mainly 04:03 carbohydrates, but it's the right nutrient composition. 04:06 Yes. So as we changed our nutrient composition 04:09 our body was designed to handle these foods. 04:12 This body wasn't handled to process... 04:14 The processing plant wasn't designed to handle this 04:17 as the processing plant's inundated with this the last 04:20 100 years, there's been a lot of problems. 04:22 There has been a lot of fat that has turns on 04:24 cardiovascular disease, we have a lot of protein 04:26 that seems to activate cancers. 04:28 We have a lot of... to many calories in the condensed food 04:32 which tends to activate obesity. 04:34 So are we seeing a parallel build of disease right along 04:38 with the change of diet, are they happening 04:41 side by side like... Well, let's look at where 04:43 we've been over the last hundred years, what would you say? 04:46 You know, why is the cancer rate, cardiovascular disease 04:49 rate getting worse? Yes! Why are we heavier than ever? 04:53 Why are these things happening? And we look back in some 04:56 segments of our world that don't eat these things, 05:00 they don't have these problems. The Africans don't have a lot 05:03 of cardiovascular disease, they eat a lot of fiber 05:06 they don't have a lot of bowel disease and bowel cancers. 05:08 The people of those times mainly designed to eat a 05:11 starch based diet, they seem to be doing a lot better 05:15 in the way they live. So if you look at all this 05:17 disease, our solution to the problem has been, 05:19 hey, let's just keep making this more and more, storing it, 05:23 let's bring it a large ways to the market, let's do this 05:27 and rather than to deal with the real problem, 05:29 let's deal with the symptoms of the problems, 05:31 it's much more lucrative to do that. 05:33 So as we've developed these disease, we have spent a lot of 05:35 effort in educating people on the modern medicine part of it 05:39 which is great for acute disease but it doesn't get at the core 05:42 of the problem. So if you look back over the 05:44 last 200 years, you have to surmise that maybe it's in 05:48 the food and what I've learned is that doctors are so 05:51 frustrated now days, they don't have the tools. 05:54 No one is getting better, they keep coming back for more. 05:57 Well if you give doctors good tools to work with 06:01 and I think nutrition should be one of those tools, 06:03 they feel good. In medical school I did not take nutrition, 06:06 most medical doctors don't have much nutrition. 06:10 In fact much people don't understand nutrition, 06:13 they understand these food pyramids that we get 06:16 and those are very good at all. So I am just so thankful that 06:19 there is giants in the field of nutrition, 06:21 giants like T. Colin Campbell. Giants like Joel Firman, 06:25 Dean Ornish, the Esselstons, and there is more and more 06:29 you know. Physicians Committee for Response and Well... 06:32 Dr. Barnard. There is giants out there that are now proving 06:35 that there is something key and Dr. Hippocrates was right... 06:39 Let food be by medicine and and also your poisons. 06:41 So now we figure this out, that this rich diet is not good. 06:42 Now I am not alone in this there are some strong 06:48 Bible texts that promote this as well. 06:51 You know, you think back to the Garden of Eden... 06:53 their diet fruits, nuts, vegetables, and grains. 06:55 You look back, even the middle eastern diet 06:57 a lot of people say Christ ate some of the things, 07:00 but you know He also had the percentage of food 07:03 in good shape. It wasn't predominantly protein and fat. 07:06 Yeah, there wasn't a McDonald's on every corner... 07:08 Exactly! Jerusalem, ok. There was a balance in all this 07:11 and we look back on the story of Daniel, 07:14 you know the story about Daniel and his friends 07:16 and after a short period of time they ate a healthy diet 07:19 they were much more lively in their brains than their 07:23 counterparts that ate a rich diet. 07:25 So it's really...everyone can draw their own conclusions, 07:30 but I would say that one of the causes of chronic disease 07:33 that contribute to heart disease, cancer, obesity, 07:36 and all the related diseases, diabetes, 07:38 if we could get people eating right, or at least thinking 07:41 right, or heading in that direction, we've done more 07:44 to help the cause of medicine than you can even imagine. 07:47 You know when you talk about food like this, 07:50 I am reminded of comedian Tim Hawkins, 07:52 he has a routine where he talks about the 07:56 impossible prayer for God to answer that we are always 07:58 asking God to do the impossible like when it comes to our diet. 08:02 We will say oh Lord, thank you for this food, 08:05 thank you so much, help it to nourish our bodies, 08:08 thank you for these cheese balls, and we thank you for 08:12 this hamburger, and these deep fried French fries. 08:16 Lord, we pray that you will change the molecular structure 08:21 of this food as it passes from these lips down to our stomach, 08:26 that it will arrive down there maybe as a carrot, 08:29 or possibly as a sprig of broccoli. Lord we pray 08:33 that you will put a hedge of protection around our stomach, 08:35 our liver, and our kidneys as we put this poison 08:39 in our bodies. How is God supposed to answer 08:42 that kind of prayer when we say Lord bless the poisons 08:47 that we eat. Yeah, and you know a lot of people are 08:49 so wrapped up in this, this is the way it's done, 08:52 I have to eat this way, this is the way I was raised, 08:55 I can't do anything different, my receptors say that I have to 08:59 have this, I can't afford... Here's another excuse, 09:02 I can't afford it, it's to hard. You can do a show on that... 09:06 I can't do it and everyone just goes on and on and there is 09:08 always someone that has an excuse of why can't they do it, 09:11 but if you look at the evidence the people that do the best 09:14 in society are the people that eat the best in society. 09:18 So if you want to feel well and do well, I want you to come 09:21 away from this program and say maybe I can eat better, 09:24 we all can eat better no matter where we are at in that walk. 09:27 We can always do better, and you know what as we learn to eat 09:30 better, guess what, we feel better, we think better 09:34 we have to take less medicines, everything starts working 09:36 together. I can't tell you how many medicines I've taken 09:39 people off of through the years just because they start 09:42 to eat better and they put the connection between 09:45 what I eat, health, what I eat, this is a treatment for disease 09:48 it causes disease. You know I could be my best doctor by 09:51 just choosing good things to put in my body. 09:53 It makes a big difference. I'm reminded, I think it was 09:57 Joel Firman's family that told me that one of their 10:00 children were asked at school, you don't eat meat? 10:04 No, I don't eat meat. You don't eat animal products 10:06 at all? No, no eggs, and no fish and no milk. 10:12 Well if you don't eat meat, what do you eat? 10:15 And the answer was everything else. Yeah! 10:18 God has made sure that there is plenty of food out there, 10:21 plenty of variety, plenty of colors. 10:23 I know when I go into the grocery store I aim my cart 10:25 right to the produce section, that's where I go first. 10:28 And I think of the Garden of Eden, I think of how 10:32 Adam and Eve would wander through the garden, 10:34 all these beautiful colors and all these beautiful flavors 10:37 and all these wonderful foods there. 10:39 Healing foods were so available and I want you to have that 10:42 experience too. When you go to the grocery store 10:44 aim your cart towards that produce section and look at 10:48 the grapes and the potatoes and the apples, and the oranges, 10:51 and the broccoli and the kale, love kale, kale chips 10:56 number one. Wonderful foods there that you can learn how 11:00 to make. Food as your medicine, absolutely, and if you need help 11:04 to figure out how to do that, the internet is marvelous 11:07 at this for giving you recipes and there is all kinds of books 11:09 out there. But food should not be an issue 11:13 to someone who wants to do it God's way because 11:16 God has provided such an abundance of food 11:19 no matter where you live things will grow, 11:21 you can eat, you can be healthy. 11:22 You know, I don't want to let people know that 11:25 maybe not eating optimally that God doesn't love them... 11:27 It has nothing to do with love, it does not have to do 11:29 with love. God loves you He accepts you, 11:31 all this is... you know you can still walk with Him... Yes! 11:34 But He wants you to feel better. Yes! 11:36 He wants you to do better so you can serve Him better, 11:38 because that is really why we're here 11:40 I've often said, it is not about God loving us, 11:42 it's about us loving God in return. 11:46 When we have healthy bodies and minds, 11:48 we have the better ability to love God in return 11:52 and to see the nuances of His love in our lives 11:55 and His guidance in our lives. So this health is so we can 11:58 understand God better and love God better, 12:00 He loves us no matter what we are eating. 12:02 A hundred years ago Charles, if I said you know 12:05 if you become a vegetarian, or even a vegan, 12:08 they would laugh at you or not even know what you are 12:10 talking about, but now it's in our vocabulary. 12:13 It's out there. People are talking about it, 12:15 people are doing it. It seems like this is going to be 12:18 the next Health Revolution to get people eating healthier, 12:21 smarter, doing better things to take care of their bodies 12:24 so we don't have all this chronic disease. 12:26 Well, I know that you may have some questions listener 12:29 as a matter of fact, we have received a lot of questions 12:31 at heartwiseministries.org on this subject. 12:34 A lot of them on nutrition and it's very important 12:37 that you understand what you need to do, 12:39 and how you need to feed your family and feed yourself 12:42 for that optimum health that we want. 12:44 You can send your questions to Heartwise ministries.org, 12:48 please do so, we form these programs based on 12:50 those questions. That is Heartwiseministries.org. 12:53 We will take a short break and when we come back 12:55 let's address some of the questions that have come into 12:57 the website on the subject of nutrition. 13:00 You might want to get a pen and paper so you can 13:02 take some notes here, because this is important stuff. 13:04 Stay tuned! |
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