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The Natural Heart - Part 2

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Participants: Dr. James Marcum (Host), Charles Mills

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Program Code: UP00035A


00:16 Feeling a bit out of rhythm or under pressure?
00:19 Hey... such is life, right?
00:22 Not if that describes your heart THAT can be deadly... stay tuned
00:27 I'm Dr. James Marcum
00:30 Are you interested in discovering the reason why?
00:34 Do you want solutions to your healthcare problems?
00:36 Are you tired of taking medications?
00:39 Well, you're about to be given the "Ultimate Prescription"
00:46 Welcome to part 2 of a conversation with
00:48 cardiologist Dr. James Marcum concerning your heart.
00:52 Last time, we spoke of heart failure and coronary disease,
00:55 today, we examine hypertension and arrhythmia.
00:58 Two conditions that can lead to some rather
01:00 unpleasant consequences.
01:02 What can we do to fight back? Surprisingly, a lot.
01:06 Dr. Marcum, I see that you've included many
01:08 natural remedies in this battle.
01:10 Can we really trust our one and only hearts to such simple
01:14 and inexpensive treatments as you're about to suggest?
01:17 Yeah, well that's a good question,
01:20 and I want to throw that back at you.
01:22 Can you really trust your life and your health
01:25 to the God that made you?
01:27 Can you do that? Good answer
01:30 If the answer to that question is "yes"
01:32 then I'm asking you and our listeners
01:36 to look at the evidence.
01:37 Look at the evidence out there,
01:39 look at the scientific evidence that has been reproduced
01:42 by other physicians, other doctors,
01:44 and in yesterday's conversation we talked about natural remedies
01:49 And we define "natural" as God's way,
01:52 you know, God's way as in the Scriptures
01:54 and we've proven, chemically, how it did.
01:56 We talked a little bit about nitrous oxide,
01:58 making the arteries bigger
01:59 so the heart gets more blood flow, so everything
02:01 functions better.
02:02 We also determined that this process doesn't just stay at the
02:05 heart - it goes in ALL the blood vessels,
02:07 so it helps all the organs.
02:09 So today, we also want to move that discussion to things like
02:13 high blood pressure...
02:14 And do you know what high blood pressure is, Charles?
02:17 I would assume that is pressure in your arteries
02:19 that is higher than it should be.
02:20 Yes, it's high and a lot of people don't know...
02:22 I mean there has to be some pressure there
02:24 for it to move around the body.
02:26 But when the heart pumps out blood,
02:29 that pumping is called "systole"
02:31 and that puts pressure in the arteries to pump everywhere.
02:34 And that number, in general,
02:36 should be a little bit less than 140 mmHg
02:39 and we measure it with a fancy device.
02:41 We have one of those called the "sphygmomanometer"
02:44 ...blood pressure cuff. Okay
02:45 And we measure the pressure when the heart pumps
02:48 and then the heart relaxes and there's still
02:50 pressure in the blood vessels.
02:51 We call that "diastolic pressure"
02:53 when the heart is relaxing.
02:54 We want that to be less than 90
02:57 Well when blood pressure is up for a long period of time,
03:00 it can damage that lining we talked about yesterday
03:03 called "endothelium" and it can damage it in all the organs.
03:07 So when a person comes in and
03:08 says they have high blood pressure,
03:10 the first thing I want to make
03:11 sure is if the reading is correct.
03:13 The second question I want to know is...
03:15 high blood pressure is a symptom...
03:17 WHY do they have high blood pressure?
03:20 You know, what is the cause?
03:21 Is it something scary happened?
03:23 Thank you... Okay Yes
03:25 Is it because they don't sleep well at night
03:27 and sleep apnea and make lots of stress chemicals?
03:29 The reason that we just had that conversation
03:32 was that yesterday he scared me,
03:34 and I told him, "today, you must not scare me"
03:36 So that's why he was smiling when he just said,
03:38 "Did something scare you?"
03:39 I might have to inflict pain today to raise
03:41 your blood pressure good, so we might do that.
03:43 We got some little things that are pain inflictors...
03:44 Yes we do, lots of little things over there, but anyway back
03:48 to our discussions on high blood pressure.
03:49 Anyway, so we want to know what causes high blood pressure.
03:52 And a lot of people come and say, "I don't want to take
03:54 a medicine that my doctor put me on for high blood pressure. "
03:57 Well, the first thing I ask them is,
03:59 "Well, maybe you don't have to IF we understand
04:02 if your blood pressure is really high, so take it at home
04:05 when you're relaxed and I want everyone to do something
04:08 to lower your blood pressure right now and this will do it.
04:10 Take a deep breath in, hold it 5 seconds,
04:15 blow it out slow.
04:20 If you will do that 10 times, the part of your nervous system
04:24 called the "parasympathetic"
04:26 will help lower your blood pressure.
04:28 So I ask people that might have high blood pressure to do that;
04:30 measure your blood pressure after that,
04:32 after you're relaxed and see what it is
04:34 on several occasions.
04:35 If you're at night at home and... you know everyone is high
04:38 when they come to the doctor's office.
04:39 Yeah, I was going to say, just visiting the doctor's office
04:42 may not be the most relaxing thing that we do.
04:44 And what can be dangerous is if you give a medicine
04:47 for high blood pressure and the blood pressure is not
04:49 really high - then it goes really low and you could get
04:51 dizzy and pass out because enough blood doesn't go
04:54 to the vital organ called "the brain. "
04:56 So anyway, once we determine that they do have
04:59 high blood pressure, and that sometimes takes some time,
05:03 we say... WHY do you have high blood pressure?
05:05 You know, and we go through all the different things
05:07 it could be - from sleep apnea to problems with the kidneys,
05:12 thyroid disease, chronic pain, chronic stress,
05:15 certain medications, DIET.
05:18 In other words, high blood pressure is a natural thing
05:20 the body does - it raises the pressure in the arteries;
05:24 your blood pressure goes up under certain circumstances
05:27 and that's a good thing when that happens. Yeah
05:29 But it should go right down, if it stays up all the time,
05:33 we look for the reason why because then it can
05:36 damage these blood vessels, cause endothelial damage
05:39 which predisposes to plaques.
05:40 It can cause aneurysms, lots of problems if it goes untreated.
05:44 High blood pressure can raise the chance of having stroke;
05:47 raise the chance of heart disease, kidney disease,
05:50 aneurysms - it affects, again, the whole body.
05:53 So once we determine a person has high blood pressure,
05:55 we want to know WHY.
05:57 So we start looking and, unfortunately, in this country
06:00 that we live in, a lot of people have high blood pressure
06:02 just because they carry extra weight.
06:05 Extra weight raises the blood pressure.
06:07 How does extra weight raise blood pressure?
06:08 When you have extra weight, usually people don't exercise
06:11 when they have extra weight.
06:12 It makes a bunch of chemicals that put stress on the body.
06:16 The stress cascade raises the blood pressure...
06:18 So extra weight - sometimes just losing extra weight
06:21 LOWERS blood pressure.
06:22 Any type of stress on the body - chronically
06:25 can raise blood pressure through chemicals like adrenalin.
06:29 So, we look and we see why a person has stress...
06:32 Some people have stress because of the food they eat.
06:35 There are certain foods that raise the blood pressure.
06:38 Let me give you an example...
06:39 People that eat high fat, high processed foods and diets
06:44 of what I call a "meat-based diet" - they have lots of
06:47 chemicals and lots of sodium in those things,
06:50 and when you do that, the viscosity of the blood gets
06:53 thicker because we have lots of fat in the blood.
06:55 I mean it literally gets thicker;
06:57 the blood gets sludgy...
06:58 Because we have this lipoprotein ... fat in the blood!
07:01 So fat in the blood, the blood gets sludgy.
07:03 We have shown that people that eat a plant-based diet
07:06 and drink lots of water, that helps get the
07:09 sludge out of the blood so the viscosity is less
07:17 so the blood pressure goes down.
07:18 Another thing that happens is this endothelial lining
07:21 can now get bigger.
07:22 So the process of eating a lot,
07:24 you get a bigger endothelium, you get less viscosity
07:27 that can also lower blood pressure.
07:30 So if diet is causing it and exercise -
07:32 Sometimes I can just simply recommend exercise
07:35 and a plant-based diet and they bring it down themselves,
07:38 so they don't need a blood pressure pill
07:40 And that's being natural because we've discovered that
07:43 natural is God's way and exercise and diet
07:46 certainly was something that He created for us
07:48 right there in Eden. Exactly!
07:50 So if you could understand the reason why...
07:54 Now a lot of people want natural remedies,
07:56 they don't want to do the work.
07:57 You know, they just want to a natural pill.
08:00 And I tell them, there's really no difference between
08:03 that and the pill I give you.
08:04 You know, let's get at the cause.
08:06 Now some people, have sleep apnea...
08:08 They get the mask, their blood pressure comes down;
08:10 a thyroid problem that's treated,
08:12 come off the medication,
08:13 but what I see nowadays is most people really
08:16 don't really know what their true blood pressure is
08:18 because they're always in a state of STRESS!
08:21 Emotional stress - they come to the doctor, they're stressed,
08:23 their blood pressure is always going to be high...
08:25 And the doctor's tendency is to give a person the medicine...
08:27 And they don't really know what it really is
08:30 when a person is nice and relaxed...
08:31 Things like music, relaxing, worship;
08:35 all those things have also been shown
08:38 to lower the blood pressure
08:39 because there is chemistry behind that.
08:41 Sometimes I have to drive in to Washington, D.C.
08:43 for my work from where I live,
08:45 and the closer I get to the city,
08:47 I start changing the radio channel to a classical station.
08:52 It just makes a big difference when I'm driving into the city
08:54 with all the noise and commotion going around the traffic,
08:57 and I turn on that beautiful music - the classical music.
09:01 I could actually feel my blood pressure going down.
09:05 Right, you can and when your body is under stress,
09:07 the blood pressure goes up,
09:08 so when it's under chronic stress,
09:10 the blood pressure also goes up.
09:12 So the treatment for that is not necessarily a pill
09:15 because one pill might lower it some,
09:18 but then you're under stress - A Beethoven pill!
09:20 Right, you're under more stress,
09:21 so you take another pill and you take another
09:23 stress and you're on another pill,
09:25 so the real solution of your blood pressure problem
09:27 might be to find a different route
09:29 or to listen to nicer music
09:30 or DON'T GO into Washington, D.C.
09:32 Some people might be healthier living AWAY from stress.
09:36 Amen! Think about that...
09:37 You might be healthier avoiding your stress
09:39 no matter what that is.
09:41 You might be able to avoid it.
09:42 It might be a chemical stress.
09:43 It might be a physical stress.
09:45 It might be emotional stress.
09:46 Because you might not be able to handle the stress...
09:47 That's the thing - some people just have a hard time
09:50 handling certain things that happen in life,
09:53 and the answer may be GET AWAY FROM THAT,
09:56 and that may mean a change of job...
10:01 We have to decide what is important.
10:03 What is the most important thing?
10:04 Your job or your health?
10:06 If you don't have health,
10:07 you're not going to keep your job...
10:09 So maybe health is #1
10:10 Maybe we need to make that an absolute priority in our lives.
10:13 HEALTH over job, over anything else,
10:16 even location where we live.
10:18 Well your most valuable asset,
10:19 is it your car? is it your bank account?
10:21 it's your health, you lose that, you lose everything,
10:23 and YOU are your best doctor.
10:25 We have to take responsibility.
10:27 So in blood pressure, that's sort of a
10:29 general approach.
10:30 A lot of people come with funny heart rhythms.
10:34 And a lot of the heart rhythms are not dangerous rhythms,
10:37 but they are just stress-related rhythms.
10:39 These palpitations - when your body makes a lot of adrenalin.
10:43 The heart is going to go faster when it's stressed out,
10:45 and sometimes it will skip as well.
10:47 Now, there are tests we can do
10:48 to see if these skips are dangerous,
10:50 if they're pathological rhythms,
10:52 but a lot of people just have palpitations.
10:54 They feel their heart beating.
10:55 Again, all the stress we have in our world,
10:58 all the symptoms we have in our world,
11:00 the real treatment for that is not necessarily
11:03 to reach for the pill first.
11:05 It's to make a clean diagnosis, ASK the reason why,
11:10 figure out what the stress is;
11:12 see if that individual is willing to maybe change
11:14 things that's stressing their lives.
11:16 It's either causing their blood pressure or their heart
11:17 to skip or something else to go wrong,
11:19 and see if they can change the mindset,
11:21 and bring down the chemistry naturally,
11:23 and let the body heal itself.
11:26 Now sometimes, most people nowadays, the mentality is
11:31 they want a pill.
11:32 That's what they hear all over,
11:34 and blood pressure is a rising problem.
11:36 Skipped beats is a rising problem.
11:38 Well, it only makes sense because
11:40 over the last 100 years the stress levels have gone up,
11:43 up, up - it's going to be more of a problem so - guess what?
11:45 There's going to be more blood pressure;
11:47 there's going to be more skipped beats;
11:48 there's going to be of all of this,
11:50 and people are going to search for solutions,
11:52 and I want to tell people the search for solution
11:55 is the natural reasons...
11:56 Find out the cause, plug back into God's ways,
11:59 and not necessarily look to the pills first
12:02 even though there's a place for it.
12:03 You know, if we brought a farmer back from 100 years ago,
12:06 and brought him in the studio here,
12:08 and he'd say, "Well yeah, we had stress,
12:10 but we didn't have it all the time"
12:12 That's the thing - the chronic stress is the problem.
12:14 That farmer would say - you know,
12:16 "The storm came and I was worried about my crop"
12:18 That was stressful.
12:19 But, we have storms coming all the time.
12:22 We are worried about our crops all the time,
12:25 day and night - when we try to sleep,
12:27 we are not thinking about restful things.
12:29 We're thinking about things that are bothering us,
12:31 and that are causing us fear and trepidation.
12:35 We need to just really get back to this natural way of living,
12:38 and that's important.
12:40 And you can do that in the city!
12:41 There are people who can drive into Washington, D.C.
12:44 and have absolutely no problem with the stress level,
12:46 and don't have to listen to classical music like I do.
12:48 These people have the ability, but some people don't.
12:51 And if you are one of those people,
12:52 if you cannot control the stress,
12:54 it is time to make some changes.
12:57 We'll take a short break and when we come back,
12:58 questions from heartwiseministries. org
13:01 so stay tuned.


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