Participants: Dr. James Marcum (Host), Charles Mills
Series Code: UP
Program Code: UP00034B
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00:01 Welcome back to the program.
00:02 I'm Charles Mills we are here with our Dr. James Marcum. 00:04 We're talking about hearts today. 00:05 And more specifically we're talking about 00:08 how to care for your heart, 00:11 how to take care of your heart the natural way. 00:14 And Dr. Marcum, I understand 00:15 a lot of people come into your office 00:16 asking you that very question. 00:18 How can I do things naturally? 00:20 Yeah, and it's very interesting Charles, 00:22 because I have so many who has high cholesterol. 00:25 And they'll come in the office and say, 00:26 I don't want to take 00:27 a cholesterol lowering medication, a stent. 00:29 And they say I want to do something natural way. 00:32 And I say, well, you know what do you want? 00:34 You know, they think natural was another pill 00:36 or another herb or something like veggies, 00:38 rice or guggul gum or something like that. 00:40 I say, well, natural is God's way 00:42 because you can lower your cholesterol that way too. 00:44 Or they have high blood pressure, you know. 00:46 I don't want to take a blood pressure pill 00:47 I want to do it naturally. 00:49 Or I don't want to this, 00:50 I want to take this natural remedy. 00:52 Well, I want everyone to think out there 00:54 that natural is God's way. 00:57 Let's do things God's way and these other things 00:59 aren't so natural but sometimes 01:00 you'll need it. Yes. 01:01 And that's sort of a different approach 01:04 that in the treatment of cardiovascular disease. 01:06 Natural is God's way at first 01:09 and then we might need extra things on top of that. Yeah. 01:12 It would seem that that would make sense 01:14 because we are having the problem that we have. 01:17 We are having the heart disease, 01:20 the arthrosclerosis the problem is with our bodies 01:24 because we're living unnaturally. 01:26 We're not living the way God intended 01:29 and the beauty of it is when God created us 01:32 He put together some natural laws 01:36 that dictate how we can live a healthy life. 01:40 And those natural laws are founded where? 01:42 Where do we go searching for those? 01:43 Oh, you know, you'll find them in the Bible. 01:45 They're filled with that in the Bible 01:46 and but I spend a lot of time 01:48 with is proving that these natural laws 01:51 have real chemistry behind it. 01:53 You know, eating the right foods, 01:54 exercising, being outside there is real chemistry behind that. 01:57 Just like as there is chemistry behind pills. 02:00 But what I found out about the natural chemistry 02:02 whether it be brain chemistry or worship chemistry 02:05 that affects the entire body. Yes. 02:07 It's just like disease infects entire body. 02:10 So you'll treat the whole body where as individual, 02:13 you know, pills and supplements just really affect one system. 02:17 They don't sort of get a global problem. 02:19 And I think we describe cardiovascular disease 02:22 as a global problem. Yes absolutely. 02:24 So for global problem you need natural remedies 02:27 and let God's remedies unless you're having symptoms. 02:30 And if you are having symptoms 02:31 then that's where is the place for modern medicine. 02:33 And perhaps we can change things in our life. 02:37 So you don't need as much as of these modern medicines 02:39 and modern treatments and we can have more natural treatments, 02:42 God's treatment. 02:43 But you know that's our popular choice. 02:45 Everyone wants a quick fix. 02:47 And then makes absolutely no money for anybody. 02:49 No money but everyone wants 02:51 to easiest quickest way. Yeah. 02:52 And when the media is bombarding you when you go to-- 02:55 with this television program 02:56 and it says you have to have this, 02:57 this or this or this technology or look at the media. 03:00 You know, they don't-- they're going to triumphant 03:02 the newest thing out there. 03:04 Then the newest procedure, the genetic pills, 03:06 the laser revascularizations. 03:08 The newest, the newest, greatest latest-- 03:10 they're not going to necessarily triumph 03:12 these natural remedies God's remedies. 03:14 It seems like we're sort of pointing away from that. 03:17 Because, people don't want to think about fixing problems. 03:20 There is no money in fixing problems 03:22 because the person keeps coming back. 03:25 You know, right now bypass surgery runs out $100,000, 03:30 a stent 40 to 60 depending on how many stents you get. 03:34 So if anyone comes to me and they've had those things 03:36 or even I prescribe these in some circumstances 03:39 I want to say, no. 03:40 That doesn't stop there. 03:41 We want to get it the cause of the problems 03:43 and we want to talk about natural remedies first 03:46 and then build on that. 03:47 Yes. All right. Very good. 03:48 We have a question here 03:49 or two from heartwiseministries.org. 03:53 These are important questions 03:54 because these are what our viewers want to know. Right. 03:57 So we're connecting directly to people 03:59 who are watching this program right now. 04:01 These programs have been sent in to heartwiseministries.org 04:04 and I invite you to do the same. 04:05 Go to that website there is a thing you can click on there 04:07 and ask your question 04:08 and we'll address it on the future program. 04:10 Okay, this, this first one here. 04:13 I first heard these words used in a, you know, some material 04:17 I saw from Caldwell Esselstyn from the Cleveland clinic. 04:21 How can I improve my level of nitrous oxide? Yeah. 04:24 What is that and why is this person asking that question? 04:27 Well this is a very important question. 04:29 And this has come from a very educated person 04:32 that came to our website. 04:33 And nitrous oxide is a substance that the body makes itself 04:38 that makes the arteries bigger, okay. 04:41 That gets the arteries from this dimension to that dimension. 04:44 And it goes up when we're doing things 04:46 because our muscles and certain things 04:47 need more blood at certain times. 04:49 When your brain is like bustling, 04:51 I'm hoping your nitrous oxides up, Charles. 04:54 So you get more blood to your brain so you can think. Yes. 04:57 When other parts of the body are working 04:58 more the endothelium gets larger. 05:01 And when the endothelium gets larger it works better. 05:04 Now if you have arthrosclerosis in artery, 05:08 I mean, if you have a blockage 05:09 and I believe we have some blockages there-- 05:10 Yes we do. 05:12 Let's take a look at this. Yeah. 05:13 Let's say this is an artery right here 05:16 that doesn't have much blockage. 05:17 You know, that is a very healthy artery 05:19 but at the same time if that organ 05:21 that is supplying needs more it has the ability to-- 05:24 It actually physically gets enlarged. 05:25 It gets enlarges because nitrous oxide 05:28 is the substance it does that. Yes, okay. 05:30 So nitrous oxide is good. Okay. 05:32 It's good fro the body. All right. 05:34 Things that make more nitrous oxide 05:36 or things like exercise-- when you exercise 05:39 the arteries get bigger. Larger, okay. 05:41 Yeah that's a natural remedy. 05:43 When you eat right up, you know, 05:45 especially when Dr. Esselstyn is showing a plant based diet 05:49 those arteries get bigger. 05:51 Dr. Esselstyn, some of them, they've some researchers. 05:54 I don't' think he did 05:55 but others have done it studying a brachial artery. 05:58 And people that eat fatty meals 06:00 don't have the ability to make nitrous oxides 06:03 so there're arteries can't get bigger, they're stiffer. 06:05 So if you have a bad blockage in an artery. 06:08 Let's take a look at this. 06:09 Here is the same artery 06:10 after a few cheese burgers I guess. Yeah. 06:12 A few lifetimes of cheese burgers. 06:13 Yeah a lifetime and if you have that type of blockage, 06:17 you know, you want your artery to get bigger. Yeah. 06:19 So that, you know, so that 80% blockage 06:21 is not as compromising. Yeah, yeah. 06:23 To the organ that it supplies. 06:25 But if you, if you don't-- things like exercise, 06:28 things like eating right those make nitrous oxides 06:30 which is more valuable than some of the pills. 06:32 In fact, we give a medicine called nitroglycerine 06:36 that does the same thing temporarily. 06:38 Well, it only makes senses that I would want to 06:40 make nitrous oxide all the time. Absolutely. 06:43 And we can do that by eating a healthy diet. 06:45 We know that fatty foods paralyze the ability of our body 06:48 to make nitrous oxide. 06:50 We know that things like exercise can help with that. 06:53 We also know that stress makes the arteries smaller. 06:57 They constrict, okay. 06:59 So we don't want a lot of stress. 07:01 We want a lot of more relaxation of the arteries 07:04 so that they can get bigger 07:05 so the organs can get more blood. 07:07 I mean can you imagine that if you have an artery 07:08 that is this clogged and then you get stressed. 07:11 Yes, oh yeah. 07:12 So what's there is going to be squeezed anyway. Exactly. 07:14 So if you have stress on a system 07:17 and if you have the bad diet on your system 07:19 and you have that to begin with 07:21 you're going to be having some chest pain 07:22 if you have blockages in your heart. 07:24 So I have had numerous patients that have disease 07:27 that we can't' do anything with. 07:28 The arteries are too small to bypass 07:30 or they've already had bypassed. 07:32 And I put them on a plant based diet 07:34 and a small exercise program. 07:36 In a short of period of time they can do more 07:38 before they have chest pain because those arteries 07:41 are now gotten bigger because the natural, 07:43 nitrous oxide has allowed the body to get more blood. 07:46 That is what I call a natural treatment 07:49 for coronary artery disease. 07:51 I just realized something that I haven't thought it before 07:54 and you're absolutely right. 07:55 A lot of people say, you know, I have 80% blockage. 07:58 I have 85-95% blockage. 08:00 I need to go immediately and get a bypass. 08:03 But if you start changing your diet 08:05 and get this nitrous oxide in there 08:08 even though you have the blockage the artery itself 08:12 is able to be flexible and enlarge a little bit 08:15 so more blood can get through 08:16 as you wait for the natural things to God given things 08:20 to try to get rid of some of this plaque. 08:21 Exactly, and another thing that, 08:23 you know, that has to do with the substance 08:25 that makes nitrous oxide is called L-arginine, 08:29 okay and we get that in some of the foods we eat. 08:32 You know broccoli things like that have high arginine 08:34 and that's the precursors or body must have that 08:36 to make the nitrous oxide. 08:38 Okay. And we don't want to paralyze our arteries. 08:40 So this is one of many natural remedies 08:43 for coronary heart disease 08:44 and you have that changes the chemistry 08:46 not only of this blood vessels 08:48 but every blood vessel throughout the body. 08:51 Not just the heart, it helps everything 08:53 when you do simple remedies like exercise, 08:55 eating the right foods, 08:56 increasing your nitrous oxide level, 08:58 decreasing your stress level. 09:00 It's that interesting? 09:02 Now that's a wonderful and that's absolutely good to. 09:03 I hope you have answered that question, 09:05 how can I improve my level of nitrous oxide. 09:07 I think we did and that is good news, 09:09 that is good news. 09:10 Now here is a question that goes along with it 09:12 and probably relates to someone 09:15 that may be having some blockage here. 09:18 "Can I exercise too much," is the question. 09:21 And it would seem to me that if you have an artery 09:23 that's wide open it will be one answer. 09:26 But if you have a artery 09:27 that's mostly blocked there will be another answer. 09:28 Am I on the right track here? You're on the right track. 09:30 But you know if you're not having symptoms, 09:32 you know, that, you know, 09:34 we want to exercise to have as a natural remedy 09:36 for numerous diseases. 09:37 Yeah. It helps the blood flow in the brain and everywhere. 09:40 But can a person that's not having symptoms 09:43 or doesn't have you know bad blockages, 09:45 exercised too much. 09:46 The answer is yes. You can exercise too much. 09:50 In fact they've done studies in middle age people. 09:52 Now you probably won't hit that middle age that's from 40-60. 09:56 If I won't hit that yet, but some of them out there 09:58 might be middle aged. 09:59 I'm middle aged. You are very kind to think. 10:02 Yeah, but if you're middle aged 10:04 and you do this like triathlons 10:06 and run hours and hours and, 10:08 you know, the thirty miles runs. 10:10 That creates a stress on your body 10:12 and they call that oxidative stress. 10:14 And there is been some studies that are saying, 10:16 if you do too much you actually going 10:18 to these anaerobic metabolism you start breaking down things. 10:22 And that's very stressful on the body. 10:24 Almost, the equivalent of cardiovascular risk 10:26 is smoking a pack of cigarettes. 10:28 So if you are an excessive exerciser. 10:31 Going into anaerobic metabolism 10:34 that can put stress on the body. 10:36 Yeah, and you don't want that kind of stress. 10:38 So yes, you can exercise too much 10:39 and every body is a little bit different. 10:42 Now where do I start on someone 10:43 that's not having symptoms? 10:45 Yeah. Well, I usually say, well, listen. 10:46 Just start wherever you can 10:48 and build on that as long as your not having a symptom. 10:50 And eventually what you want to get up is to do intervals. 10:54 You know, you're gonna go six minutes at one speed. 10:56 Six minutes at a greater speed. 10:57 You want to go faster and rest 10:59 because that's what how the God designed it, 11:01 to work in intervals. 11:02 You know, in the Garden of Eden, 11:03 you know, Adam might have to chase down that tiger there 11:06 but then after he chase it down he would rest. 11:08 So you go fast, slow fast slow. 11:10 That's what gets your arteries bigger, 11:12 smaller, bigger, smaller that's what exercises them more. 11:15 So it's this intervals training 11:16 and they arbitrarily use about six minutes. 11:19 So I get on the treadmill, 11:20 and I go six minutes of speed elevated some more six minutes. 11:23 When I start to getting tired 11:24 I don't want to go into anaerobic metabolism. 11:26 Right. Or hurt my body. 11:28 Or of course if I'm having a symptom of a pain 11:30 somewhere I want to bring it down right away. 11:33 So yes, you can exercise too much 11:35 and we want to try to get people 11:36 everyone doing some exercise but interval exercise. 11:40 That's actually very good news Dr. Marcum, 11:42 because there are things that we can do 11:44 in the natural world in the natural way. 11:48 And as we get back to this natural way of doing things 11:52 we find that God has prepared the way for us. 11:55 There are natural laws that we follow 11:58 and the closer we follow those natural laws 12:01 the more we dedicate ourselves to doing things 12:03 God's way the healthier we'll become. 12:06 And the less we need of everything else. 12:07 And a less we need everything else. Right. 12:08 That is such good news, good news. 12:11 Well we're going to take a short break. 12:12 When we come back we're talked to the God 12:14 who created the natural laws 12:16 and He really wants to follow these things. 12:19 He has made it very easy and accessible for everyone 12:22 whether you are rich or poor, 12:24 no matter where you live you can follow 12:26 God's natural laws for your heart health. 12:29 And we'll talk to that master-physician on our return. 12:32 So stay right where you are. 12:40 We've been talking today about 12:42 ways to treat the heart naturally. 12:45 And I want you to think of the word 12:46 naturally as God's way. 12:49 One of the questions I frequently get asked is 12:52 can I come off medications. 12:54 I'm taking medications from my heart. 12:57 And yes, it is possible for some people 12:59 to come off medications with a doctor's advice 13:01 especially if they can change there ways 13:04 and change your chemistries in other ways 13:06 like nitrous oxide that we talked about today 13:09 or get on the exercise program. 13:11 So it is possible to come off your medications 13:13 but I also want people to realize 13:15 if you're having a symptom 13:17 or you can't change to back to God's way 13:19 sometimes you need to stay on your medication. 13:23 And this is something that God wants to help you with. 13:25 So the main take home point today is remember, 13:28 that natural is God's way. 13:31 And where there is lots of things 13:33 we can do to change our body's chemistry 13:35 to help not only your heart but your entire vascular system 13:38 which is called the endothelial. 13:41 It might be someone out there today 13:43 that needs a prayer and needs a little a extra help 13:45 that may be is a boost to long likes way 13:48 to get back to God's natural plans. 13:50 We want to pray for you right now. 13:53 Dear heavenly Father, as we come to you once again 13:57 we want us to understand Your ways 13:59 and not the world's ways. 14:01 Please bring us back into this harmony 14:03 with Your plans Your laws. 14:05 You're our Creator and our Master physician. 14:07 Help us to turn to You first 14:09 when we have questions about our health is our humble prayer. 14:13 Amen. 14:14 I want to thank, each one of you 14:16 for taking the time out of your busy days 14:18 to join us on the Ultimate Prescription. 14:20 And I hope you've learned something today 14:23 about natural healing. 14:25 I would invite you to go to our website 14:27 heartwiseministries.org. 14:29 And I want to wish you 14:31 knowledge of this Ultimate Prescription. |
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