Welcome back to the program.
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I'm Charles Mills we are
here with our Dr. James Marcum.
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We're talking
about hearts today.
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And more
specifically we're talking about
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how to care for your heart,
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how to take care of
your heart the natural way.
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And Dr. Marcum, I understand
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a lot of people
come into your office
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asking you that very question.
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How can I do things naturally?
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Yeah, and it's very
interesting Charles,
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because I have so many
who has high cholesterol.
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And they'll come
in the office and say,
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I don't want to take
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a cholesterol
lowering medication, a stent.
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And they say I want to
do something natural way.
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And I say, well, you
know what do you want?
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You know, they think
natural was another pill
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or another herb or
something like veggies,
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rice or guggul gum
or something like that.
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I say, well,
natural is God's way
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because you can lower
your cholesterol that way too.
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Or they have high
blood pressure, you know.
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I don't want to take
a blood pressure pill
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I want to do it naturally.
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Or I don't want to this,
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I want to take
this natural remedy.
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Well, I want
everyone to think out there
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that natural is God's way.
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Let's do things God's
way and these other things
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aren't so natural but sometimes
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you'll need it. Yes.
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And that's sort of
a different approach
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that in the treatment
of cardiovascular disease.
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Natural is God's way at first
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and then we might need extra
things on top of that. Yeah.
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It would seem that
that would make sense
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because we are having
the problem that we have.
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We are having the heart disease,
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the arthrosclerosis the
problem is with our bodies
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because we're
living unnaturally.
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We're not living
the way God intended
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and the beauty of it
is when God created us
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He put together
some natural laws
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that dictate how we
can live a healthy life.
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And those natural
laws are founded where?
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Where do we go
searching for those?
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Oh, you know, you'll
find them in the Bible.
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They're filled
with that in the Bible
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and but I spend a lot of time
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with is proving
that these natural laws
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have real chemistry behind it.
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You know,
eating the right foods,
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exercising, being outside there
is real chemistry behind that.
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Just like as there is
chemistry behind pills.
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But what I found out
about the natural chemistry
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whether it be brain
chemistry or worship chemistry
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that affects the
entire body. Yes.
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It's just like
disease infects entire body.
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So you'll treat the
whole body where as individual,
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you know, pills and supplements
just really affect one system.
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They don't sort of
get a global problem.
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And I think we
describe cardiovascular disease
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as a global
problem. Yes absolutely.
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So for global problem
you need natural remedies
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and let God's remedies
unless you're having symptoms.
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And if you are having symptoms
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then that's where is the
place for modern medicine.
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And perhaps we can
change things in our life.
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So you don't need as much
as of these modern medicines
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and modern treatments and we can
have more natural treatments,
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God's treatment.
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But you know
that's our popular choice.
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Everyone wants a quick fix.
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And then makes
absolutely no money for anybody.
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No money but everyone wants
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to easiest quickest way. Yeah.
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And when the media is
bombarding you when you go to--
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with this television program
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and it says you
have to have this,
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this or this or this
technology or look at the media.
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You know, they don't--
they're going to triumphant
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the newest thing out there.
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Then the newest
procedure, the genetic pills,
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the laser revascularizations.
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The newest, the
newest, greatest latest--
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they're not going
to necessarily triumph
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these natural
remedies God's remedies.
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It seems like we're sort
of pointing away from that.
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Because, people don't want
to think about fixing problems.
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There is no money
in fixing problems
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because the
person keeps coming back.
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You know, right now bypass
surgery runs out $100,000,
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a stent 40 to 60 depending
on how many stents you get.
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So if anyone comes to me
and they've had those things
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or even I prescribe
these in some circumstances
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I want to say, no.
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That doesn't stop there.
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We want to get it
the cause of the problems
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and we want to talk
about natural remedies first
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and then build on that.
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Yes. All right. Very good.
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We have a question here
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or two from
heartwiseministries.org.
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These are important questions
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because these are what our
viewers want to know. Right.
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So we're
connecting directly to people
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who are watching
this program right now.
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These programs have been sent
in to heartwiseministries.org
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and I invite you to do the same.
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Go to that website there is
a thing you can click on there
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and ask your question
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and we'll address it
on the future program.
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Okay, this, this first one here.
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I first heard these words used
in a, you know, some material
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I saw from Caldwell Esselstyn
from the Cleveland clinic.
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How can I improve my
level of nitrous oxide? Yeah.
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What is that and why is this
person asking that question?
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Well this is a
very important question.
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And this has come
from a very educated person
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that came to our website.
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And nitrous oxide is a substance
that the body makes itself
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that makes the
arteries bigger, okay.
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That gets the arteries from this
dimension to that dimension.
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And it goes up
when we're doing things
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because our
muscles and certain things
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need more blood
at certain times.
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When your brain
is like bustling,
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I'm hoping your
nitrous oxides up, Charles.
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So you get more blood to your
brain so you can think. Yes.
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When other parts of
the body are working
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more the
endothelium gets larger.
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And when the endothelium
gets larger it works better.
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Now if you have
arthrosclerosis in artery,
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I mean, if you have a blockage
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and I believe we have
some blockages there--
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Yes we do.
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Let's take a look at this. Yeah.
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Let's say this is
an artery right here
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that doesn't have much blockage.
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You know, that is
a very healthy artery
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but at the same
time if that organ
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that is supplying needs
more it has the ability to--
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It actually
physically gets enlarged.
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It gets enlarges
because nitrous oxide
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is the substance it
does that. Yes, okay.
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So nitrous oxide is good. Okay.
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It's good fro
the body. All right.
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Things that make
more nitrous oxide
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or things like
exercise-- when you exercise
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the arteries get
bigger. Larger, okay.
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Yeah that's a natural remedy.
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When you eat right up, you know,
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especially when Dr. Esselstyn
is showing a plant based diet
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those arteries get bigger.
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Dr. Esselstyn, some of
them, they've some researchers.
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I don't' think he did
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but others have done it
studying a brachial artery.
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And people that eat fatty meals
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don't have the
ability to make nitrous oxides
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so there're arteries can't
get bigger, they're stiffer.
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So if you have a bad
blockage in an artery.
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Let's take a look at this.
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Here is the same artery
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after a few cheese
burgers I guess. Yeah.
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A few lifetimes
of cheese burgers.
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Yeah a lifetime and if you
have that type of blockage,
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you know, you want your
artery to get bigger. Yeah.
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So that, you know,
so that 80% blockage
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is not as
compromising. Yeah, yeah.
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To the organ that it supplies.
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But if you, if you
don't-- things like exercise,
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things like eating right
those make nitrous oxides
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which is more valuable
than some of the pills.
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In fact, we give a
medicine called nitroglycerine
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that does the
same thing temporarily.
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Well, it only makes
senses that I would want to
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make nitrous oxide
all the time. Absolutely.
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And we can do that by
eating a healthy diet.
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We know that fatty foods
paralyze the ability of our body
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to make nitrous oxide.
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We know that things like
exercise can help with that.
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We also know that stress
makes the arteries smaller.
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They constrict, okay.
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So we don't
want a lot of stress.
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We want a lot of more
relaxation of the arteries
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so that they can get bigger
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so the organs
can get more blood.
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I mean can you imagine
that if you have an artery
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that is this clogged
and then you get stressed.
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Yes, oh yeah.
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So what's there is going to
be squeezed anyway. Exactly.
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So if you have
stress on a system
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and if you have the
bad diet on your system
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and you have that to begin with
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you're going to be
having some chest pain
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if you have
blockages in your heart.
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So I have had numerous
patients that have disease
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that we can't' do anything with.
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The arteries are
too small to bypass
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or they've already had bypassed.
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And I put them on
a plant based diet
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and a small exercise program.
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In a short of period
of time they can do more
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before they have chest
pain because those arteries
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are now gotten
bigger because the natural,
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nitrous oxide has allowed
the body to get more blood.
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That is what I
call a natural treatment
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for coronary artery disease.
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I just realized something
that I haven't thought it before
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and you're absolutely right.
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A lot of people say, you
know, I have 80% blockage.
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I have 85-95% blockage.
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I need to go
immediately and get a bypass.
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But if you start
changing your diet
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and get this
nitrous oxide in there
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even though you have the
blockage the artery itself
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is able to be flexible
and enlarge a little bit
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so more blood can get through
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as you wait for the natural
things to God given things
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to try to get rid
of some of this plaque.
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Exactly, and another thing that,
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you know, that has
to do with the substance
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that makes nitrous
oxide is called L-arginine,
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okay and we get that in
some of the foods we eat.
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You know broccoli things
like that have high arginine
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and that's the precursors
or body must have that
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to make the nitrous oxide.
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Okay. And we don't want
to paralyze our arteries.
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So this is one of
many natural remedies
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for coronary heart disease
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and you have that
changes the chemistry
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not only of this blood vessels
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but every blood
vessel throughout the body.
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Not just the
heart, it helps everything
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when you do simple
remedies like exercise,
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eating the right foods,
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increasing your
nitrous oxide level,
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decreasing your stress level.
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It's that interesting?
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Now that's a wonderful
and that's absolutely good to.
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I hope you have
answered that question,
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how can I improve my
level of nitrous oxide.
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I think we did
and that is good news,
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that is good news.
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Now here is a question
that goes along with it
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and probably relates to someone
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that may be having
some blockage here.
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"Can I exercise too
much," is the question.
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And it would seem to me
that if you have an artery
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that's wide open
it will be one answer.
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But if you have a artery
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that's mostly blocked
there will be another answer.
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Am I on the right track
here? You're on the right track.
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But you know if
you're not having symptoms,
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you know, that, you know,
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we want to exercise to
have as a natural remedy
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for numerous diseases.
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Yeah. It helps the blood flow
in the brain and everywhere.
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But can a person
that's not having symptoms
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or doesn't have
you know bad blockages,
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exercised too much.
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The answer is yes.
You can exercise too much.
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In fact they've done
studies in middle age people.
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Now you probably won't hit that
middle age that's from 40-60.
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If I won't hit that yet,
but some of them out there
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might be middle aged.
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I'm middle aged. You
are very kind to think.
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Yeah, but if you're middle aged
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and you do this like triathlons
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and run hours and hours and,
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you know, the thirty miles runs.
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That creates a
stress on your body
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and they call
that oxidative stress.
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And there is been some
studies that are saying,
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if you do too
much you actually going
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to these anaerobic metabolism
you start breaking down things.
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And that's very
stressful on the body.
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Almost, the equivalent
of cardiovascular risk
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is smoking a pack of cigarettes.
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So if you are an
excessive exerciser.
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Going into anaerobic metabolism
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that can put stress on the body.
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Yeah, and you don't
want that kind of stress.
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So yes, you can
exercise too much
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and every body is a
little bit different.
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Now where do I start on someone
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that's not having symptoms?
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Yeah. Well, I
usually say, well, listen.
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Just start wherever you can
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and build on that as long
as your not having a symptom.
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And eventually what you want
to get up is to do intervals.
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You know, you're gonna
go six minutes at one speed.
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Six minutes at a greater speed.
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You want to go faster and rest
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because that's what
how the God designed it,
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to work in intervals.
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You know, in the Garden of Eden,
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you know, Adam might have
to chase down that tiger there
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but then after he
chase it down he would rest.
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So you go fast, slow fast slow.
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That's what gets
your arteries bigger,
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smaller, bigger, smaller
that's what exercises them more.
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So it's this intervals training
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and they arbitrarily
use about six minutes.
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So I get on the treadmill,
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and I go six minutes of speed
elevated some more six minutes.
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When I start to getting tired
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I don't want to go
into anaerobic metabolism.
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Right. Or hurt my body.
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Or of course if I'm
having a symptom of a pain
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somewhere I want to
bring it down right away.
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So yes, you can
exercise too much
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and we want to try to get people
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everyone doing some
exercise but interval exercise.
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That's actually very
good news Dr. Marcum,
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because there are
things that we can do
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in the natural
world in the natural way.
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And as we get back to this
natural way of doing things
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we find that God has
prepared the way for us.
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There are natural
laws that we follow
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and the closer we
follow those natural laws
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the more we dedicate
ourselves to doing things
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God's way the
healthier we'll become.
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And the less we
need of everything else.
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And a less we need
everything else. Right.
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That is such
good news, good news.
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Well we're going
to take a short break.
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When we come back
we're talked to the God
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who created the natural laws
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and He really wants
to follow these things.
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He has made it very easy
and accessible for everyone
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whether you are rich or poor,
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no matter where
you live you can follow
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God's natural laws
for your heart health.
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And we'll talk to that
master-physician on our return.
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So stay right where you are.
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We've been talking today about
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ways to treat
the heart naturally.
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And I want you
to think of the word
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naturally as God's way.
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One of the questions I
frequently get asked is
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can I come off medications.
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I'm taking
medications from my heart.
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And yes, it is
possible for some people
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to come off medications
with a doctor's advice
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especially if they
can change there ways
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and change your
chemistries in other ways
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like nitrous oxide
that we talked about today
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or get on the exercise program.
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So it is possible to
come off your medications
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but I also want
people to realize
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if you're having a symptom
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or you can't change
to back to God's way
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sometimes you need to
stay on your medication.
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And this is something that
God wants to help you with.
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So the main take home
point today is remember,
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that natural is God's way.
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And where there
is lots of things
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we can do to change
our body's chemistry
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to help not only your heart
but your entire vascular system
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which is called the endothelial.
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It might be
someone out there today
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that needs a prayer and
needs a little a extra help
00:13:43.20\00:13:45.74
that may be is a
boost to long likes way
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to get back to
God's natural plans.
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We want to pray
for you right now.
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Dear heavenly Father, as
we come to you once again
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we want us to
understand Your ways
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and not the world's ways.
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Please bring us
back into this harmony
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with Your plans Your laws.
00:14:03.45\00:14:05.00
You're our Creator
and our Master physician.
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Help us to turn to You first
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when we have questions about
our health is our humble prayer.
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Amen.
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I want to thank, each one of you
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for taking the time
out of your busy days
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to join us on the
Ultimate Prescription.
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And I hope you've
learned something today
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about natural healing.
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I would invite you
to go to our website
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heartwiseministries.org.
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And I want to wish you
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knowledge of this
Ultimate Prescription.
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