The following program presents
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principles designed
to promote good health
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and is not intended to take
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the place of
personalized professional care.
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The opinions and ideas expressed
are those of the speaker.
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Viewers are encouraged to
draw their own conclusions
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about the information presented.
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You've got heart disease.
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You're doctors
suggest surgery and drugs.
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He should know
what's best for you, right.
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Stay tuned.
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I'm Dr. James Marcum.
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Are you interested in
discovering the reason, why?
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You want solutions to
your healthcare problems?
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Are you tired of
taking medications?
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Well you're about to be
given the Ultimate Prescription.
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There is a certain
feeling that comes over a person
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when he or she is told
that their heart is in trouble.
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That feeling is fear.
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After all you
only have one heart.
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This is not a good time to
try something new or is it.
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Heart disease is progressive
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and while there
comes a time to act quickly
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using the best that
modern medicine has to offer
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that time, may not be now.
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Dr. Marcum,
you're a cardiologist.
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This is your area of
expertise, help us out here.
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When do we go modern
and when do we go natural?
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Well that's a
great question, Charles.
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And today as we talk about
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you know artery
disease, heart disease.
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I want to introduce once again
this word endothelial disease
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or the lining of
the blood vessels.
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Remember, as your
blood leaves the heart
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there is two vessels--
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there are just
two vessels that feed
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the front part of the heart
with nourishment with oxygen.
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Oh, we've a
model right here. Yeah.
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Can this model
will help us. All right.
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Right when we lead the
heart oxygen-rich blood--
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these arteries right
here that feed the heart.
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They are called the
coronary arteries. Okay.
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And they feed the heart right
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as soon as it leads going out
this big vessel called aorta.
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Now Charles, this is a
heart you would not one have.
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This is a hardened
heart. How hardened it is.
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Heart of wood. Heart
of stone. Heart of wood.
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So you don't want
to have this heart.
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But a patient made this for me.
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But the arteries come out here
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and they feed the heart.
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But remember the same vessels
go throughout the body. Yes.
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So the same disease that fills--
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that causes heart disease
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or coronary artery
disease or atherosclerosis.
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It affects--the
blood it goes to your brain
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so people might not think right
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leading to strokes
and vascular disease.
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It's one of the
causes to dementia.
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That damage could
happen in the big vessel
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called the aorta and
it can cause aneurysm.
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In the vessels of the legs
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causing the legs
not to get enough blood.
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We call that a
peripheral vascular disease.
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And the symptom of that
might be pain when you walk.
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The arteries that
go to your kidneys
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the arteries
that go to your gut,
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the artery that goes to
your reproductive organs.
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So this is a systemic
disease it goes everywhere.
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So when do I recommend
going to a doctor for this?
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Well, one is, if
you're having a symptom,
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if you're having a symptom.
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That's a great
place to go to a doctor.
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So let's say
you're walking at the hill
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and you might have chest pain
that goes away when you rest.
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That might be a sign
that you're hearts not getting
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enough blood or oxygen
and that could be a symptom.
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Let's say you're
having mental problems
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or part of your body
is getting enough blood.
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That might be a sign of blockage
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in one of the vessels
up in the brain. Yeah.
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Let's say you have pain
in the leg when you walk.
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That could be a
blockage in one of the arteries.
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Let's say you're
kidney function get's worse
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or your blood
pressure is out of whack.
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That could be sign of a blockage
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in the arteries to your kidneys.
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So this can happen
throughout the body.
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So first of all, the time to
go is if you're having symptoms
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because we have
got some great things
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to help modern medicine.
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We can bring more
blood flow to the heart.
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We can put stents in a bypass.
We can put stents in the neck.
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We can do a lot of
things to help the blood improve
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but at the same
time that doesn't get
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at the cause of the disease.
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Now the symptoms
you're talking about
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are these symptoms
that occur over a longtime,
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not just one or two right away?
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That's a good point.
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By the time a person has symptom
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they have pretty
advanced disease. I see.
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So you don't want
to necessarily wait
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till you have a
symptom to see a doctor.
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You might want to see a doctor
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or physician or someone
to help you to prevent this.
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Or if you have it
in early in stages
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to help it not
progressed to have big stages.
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So when you're starting having
symptoms go to see someone.
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Right for sure. Yeah.
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But some people
even want to go see
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someone to help them
even ahead of time. Yes.
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And you know to help
them not have this disease
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and people that are
at the greatest risk
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are people that
have family histories
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that might have a
genetic predisposition,
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might have other
concomitant diseases
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like diabetes,
high blood pressure,
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high
cholesterol, smoke cigarettes.
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Those are
conditions that soon or later
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could develop higher risk
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of the developing the
symptoms throughout the body.
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So those people might
want to get help early
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to prevent having symptoms.
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So I have some
people that come to me
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and they say listen I
don't have a problem now
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but I don't want to
have a problem down the road.
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Are there any things that
I can do with my lifestyle
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or with
medicines or with my diet
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to help me prevent getting
this disease down the road?
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And the word natural
always comes up. Yeah.
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Many people want to
do it the natural way.
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And today I want
people to think about
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the natural way is God's way.
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And a lot of people think,
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oh, if it's not a
medicine it's natural.
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If it doesn't come from a
medical doctor it's natural.
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And you know there's many
different types of doctors
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to go see nowadays. Yes.
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You know you've got doctors
of naturopathic medicine.
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You've got chiropractors,
you got nutritionist.
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You got all sorts
of different doctors.
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And any one that
helps heal somebody
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I consider a healer.
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Medical doctors are good at
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giving medicines
and treating symptoms.
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Naturopathic doctors are good
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working at natural
things and looking at,
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you know, different diets
and foods and lifestyle things.
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But I want people to think about
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as when they
think they were natural
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in treatment for the heart
God's way of treating the heart.
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And God's way might
include medical doctors.
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God's way might into
these other types of things
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and when we sort
of think about it
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that way its holistic approach.
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But I don't want
people to think of naturals
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just in herb or just this
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its God's way of
treating that's the natural way.
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How we would design to be
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that's the way
to treat the heart.
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And God has allowed technology
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and there is a place for that.
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If you're having a heart attack
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that's a place
for modern medicine.
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If you, you know, if you
have a super high blood pressure
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and you can't
get it down naturally
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that's another
place for medicine.
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So it does have a
place to use these things.
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Pacemakers to defibrillators
all that has a place
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but I want everyone to
know that often most of the time
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it doesn't get at the cause.
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Now, I had a gentlemen
not too long ago Charles,
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that came to me
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and he had done
everything right.
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He is 55 years old.
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He exercised everyday,
he ate a really good diet,
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no risk factors of
diabetes hypertension,
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and he was a
little bit discouraged
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because he had vascular disease
that presented as a symptom.
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And you know he says, man,
I have done everything right.
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You know, what's, what's wrong.
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And I said, well, how old
was your dad when he had it?
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He said, well, my dad 42
and this gentleman is 57.
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So he had another 15
years without the disease.
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Some stress on our system
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is passed down
from our genetics.
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And there is some
diseases no matter
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what we do some people
just have bad genes. Yeah.
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And that's one thing
that people need to realize.
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You know, the way things are.
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That's a stress
that's been passed down.
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It's a result of
sin I think. Yeah.
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So this gentleman
had some things done
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because he had a symptom.
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And I said well, you know,
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you had a symptom you
do have genetic disease.
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What are something's we can do
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to actually help your genetics
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from being turned on? Yeah.
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And there is this fascinating
field now called epigenetics
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that we're just learning about.
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Certain genes can be turned on
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by certain things we do.
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We know certain
foods can turn on genes,
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we know certain
carcinogens can turn on genes,
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like cigarette smoking
and toxins in environment.
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But we're now also learning
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the chemistry of the
brain can turn on genes.
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The stress
chemistry of the brain can
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up regulate or
down regulate genes.
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Nutrition, this is
much more complicated
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than anyone ever thought
that what turns on genes.
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So if we feel stress in
our mind if we're worried,
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if we're
apprehensive, if we are angry,
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if we feel guilt all of
these things are switches
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that can turn on the genes
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that cause the
problems. Yes. Yes.
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Because remember, everything
that happens in our body
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is a result of some type
of chemical reaction. Right.
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Okay, and our body
these feedback systems.
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You know, like if
you're worried about something
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you're worried for a reason
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there's real
chemistry behind that worry.
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And that chemistry of
course, affects other things.
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You know, if I go
like that and scare you.
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Guess what, there is
chemistry behind that reaction.
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Lot's of chemistry.
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You jumped, you got scared,
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you're fear center of
the brain got turned on
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your medulla you
made lot of adrenaline.
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And that adrenaline
say, hey I'm backing off.
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And I feel great.
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Yeah, yeah and the
adrenaline back off.
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Your heart starts
speeding up a little bit.
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But can you
imagine if that goes on
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day and day out,
year and year out.
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You can't sleep at
night, you can't rest at night,
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you can't heal at night.
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You might do things
to help cope with that.
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It's a cascaded events.
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So natural ways
to treat the heart
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is more than just medicines.
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It's more than modern medicine.
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Its more than just
food, the food is important.
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It's also includes the
exercise, the way we think,
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basically the way we lived.
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Our entire
lifestyle is what affects
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not only vascular
disease but your entire health.
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Because everything
we do affects our genes,
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its epigenetics can
turn on these things.
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Like my patient that
had disease 17 years later
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something eventually
turned on those genes. Yeah.
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Now when talking to him
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he lived a very,
very stressful life.
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He lived under constant stress.
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And remember the way
we're originally designed,
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we weren't designed to
have lots of stress. Yes.
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We were never
designed with the internet
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or these heavy workloads.
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We were designed to rest,
we were designed to be happy,
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we were designed to
play with the animals
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and have all these good times
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and somehow we
shifted from that.
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We were designed to
worship a God that loved us.
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And were designed to worship,
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you know, I was,
you know, listening
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on the radio the other day.
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I was turning the shows
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and there is more
shows about sports
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than there were about
spiritual things. Yes.
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You know, it's crazy.
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You know,
there's more drug stores
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than there are churches.
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Our country and the world
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is moving in
the wrong direction.
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We're deemphasizing God
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and His plan the natural plan
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and emphasizing
the technology plan.
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Now there is
place for technology
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but on my television set
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I see more ads for
drugs and procedures
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than I do for anything else.
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Even in health shows,
I look out there and see
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some of the other people
that do what I do on television
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and they're talking
about more of the technology
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and more of the
gimmicks and gadgets
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than they are on how we
were designed with God's plan.
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The natural way to
deal with heart disease.
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So I want to our
listeners to think
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when you say the natural
way is God's way. God's way.
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How would go if
he was treating you,
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how would he start in
the treatment plan for you.
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Not how a medical doctor would
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but how would doctor
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the ultimate
physician start with you.
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Where would he start?
Would you start with a stent?
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Well, he probably if
you have an acute symptom
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but more than that he'll say.
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Well, listen, Charles,
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what cause the
problem in the first place.
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Let's get back to
the way I made you.
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Come on to me and
I will give you rest.
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That's the fist thing
that pop into my mind here
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when you were just
talking about that.
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God's first thing He
wants to do is say slowdown,
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wait a minute and
it's not that important.
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Just take it easy
I'm with you here.
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You know when you scared me
there and you really scared me.
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I must say you really scared me.
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I may be jumped.
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I sort of took inventory
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of what was happening
in my body for the first,
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you know, 60 seconds after that.
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Heart rate goes up,
you know, I felt warmer,
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I knew that my blood
pressure had gone up as well
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because its-- heart
was pumping faster. Yeah.
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Now if I had come to a doctor
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under those
circumstances and say,
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doctor I have
high blood pressure.
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My heart is going too fast,
I can't really think clearly
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because I'm so
excited and everything.
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And the doctor
would have given me
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all these lowering
blood pressure medicines
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and all of the stat and this is
for my cholesterol and all that.
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Now they started
working on those problems.
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The problem was
that this man scared me.
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That was the problem
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and all of those medicines
would only cause side effects
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and not get to
the problem at all.
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So that was a
fantastic illustration.
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You need to find
out what is scaring you.
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What is
bothering you in your life
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that is causing
all these symptoms?
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If you can find that out
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and you can
mitigate those things
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it's very possible
that you can slowdown
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and possibly get rid of
the problem with your heart.
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Am I on the right track?
You're on the right track.
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All right.
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We'll take a short
break and when we come back
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that have been sent
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Questions we'll
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So everybody stay
right where you are
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we'll be right back.
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