Participants: James Marcum & Charles Mills
Series Code: UP
Program Code: UP00028B
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00:01 We have talked a lot about
00:02 the materials that are available out there 00:04 for you to study, to look at 00:06 and I would recommend very strongly 00:07 the book we've mentioned already on the program 00:10 and that is T. Colin Campbell's book, 00:12 "The China Study." 00:13 Here is the man who spent a lot of material, 00:16 a lot of time and lot of energy 00:18 studying the different cultures and different civilizations 00:21 within the country of China. 00:23 And discovered some very, very different 00:27 finding, very different information 00:29 then was known to that point. 00:31 And he pen that down in "The China Study" 00:32 and cancer was one of the big items 00:35 that he discovered can be affected by nutrition 00:39 and which brings the question, 00:41 Dr. James Marcum, now matter how you eat, 00:44 if whether you have a standard American diet, 00:46 whether you have life style changes 00:48 that include fruits and vegetables. 00:50 How do you know if you have cancer, 00:53 is there like a pain that comes, what do you know? 00:55 Yeah, the symptoms and that's why we want 00:59 the screening test for everybody. 01:01 You know we have different screening tests 01:03 we do for different types of cancers. 01:05 But sometimes cancer before it has a symptom, 01:09 it's pretty advanced you know, 01:11 one of the symptoms people have it 01:12 they might have certain pains 01:13 that are unexplainable. 01:15 But it can be growing and you don't know it. 01:16 Yes, yes, it can be growing and by the time it spreads 01:18 and for it does causes symptoms, 01:20 it can be pretty advanced, that's why I think 01:21 there is a place for screening test. 01:23 Sometimes we might see a person is anemic, 01:26 running low on the blood counts. 01:28 Sometimes this is one 01:29 that we see quite a bit is losing weight 01:31 because we talked about the cancer being selfish, 01:33 the cancer is, you know, producing using a lot of energy, 01:37 the metabolism is high, so people cannot eat enough. 01:40 So they lose weight, fatigue, 01:42 tiredness, pain that's unexplained, 01:44 all these are symptoms of cancer. 01:46 Unfortunately usually by the time 01:48 the person has a symptoms, the cancer has progressed. 01:50 Losing weight if you haven't done anything else-- 01:52 Right, right yeah if you are trying, yeah. 01:55 There's other things that can cause us to lose weight too, 01:57 but a dramatic loss of weight could be 01:59 a symptom of cancer as well. 02:00 All right, and a dramatic loss of weight 02:02 can also be a symptom 02:03 of going on to a whole food plant based diet, 02:05 just want you to know that. 02:06 All right, the symptoms if we have a symptom, 02:11 is it already too late, has it advanced to the point 02:14 where we are impotent. 02:16 That comes through the diagnosis 02:17 as once you have a symptom, 02:19 we usually find a cancer 02:20 and we usually do what we call a biopsy, 02:22 where we take a needle 02:23 and I have some needles down here 02:25 and we put the needle, 02:26 we put the needle into the cancer cells. 02:28 We pull those cancer cells out, 02:30 this is called a fine needle biopsy. 02:32 We look at him under the microscope, 02:34 and we can say, yes this is a cancer, 02:36 here is the type it is and then also the next thing 02:39 after we make the diagnosis of cancer 02:41 usually we do what we call stage the cancer. 02:44 So we look to see if the cancer is just localized 02:46 or whether it's moved to other organs. 02:48 Now, when you look under a microscope, 02:50 when you put that slice of whatever you get 02:53 and you put under the microscope and you look at that. 02:55 What do what do see? 02:56 What's it look like, what's cancer look? 02:57 Well, the pathologist, those are the doctors 02:59 who look at it, they see cells that are abnormal, 03:02 they know what normal cells look like 03:04 but they also know what cancer cells look like 03:07 and they see these abnormal-- 03:08 well, these are actually our cells 03:10 that are divided in appropriate place. 03:12 So they look at those and see those 03:14 and say oh, boy, this is a cancer 03:17 and then the next thing as they confirm it's cancer, 03:19 then we see if it's spreading anywhere else, 03:21 frequently place we look is the lymph nodes. 03:24 Okay, if it's in the lymph nodes that's a serious thing. 03:26 If it's in the lymph nodes that means it's spreading more 03:28 using more than one location because the lymph nodes takes it 03:31 throughout the body. 03:33 Sometimes we can do CAT scans. 03:35 One of the neat scans we have now is called the PET scan, 03:38 I don't know if you've heard of that Charles, 03:39 but a PET scan looks at the metabolism in the body. 03:43 So we can actually look at a group of cells 03:45 and see if they are metabolically 03:47 more active than they should do. 03:48 That's not a picture of your dog. 03:50 No, no, that's my-- 03:53 That was almost funny, Charles, almost funny. 03:56 Laughter is good for the heart. 03:57 It is good, but the PET scans they take pictures 04:00 and they can see if you have metabolically active cells. 04:03 So let's say you have a little mass 04:05 that they pick up in your lungs and they pick it up incidentally 04:08 and they say, wow, we really don't, 04:10 guy has never smoked, 04:11 he is not losing weight, no symptoms. 04:13 Is that cancer or is it something else? 04:16 You know there is a nodule there what should we do? 04:18 And options are as you know, if there you know, 04:21 we can do a PET scan to see 04:22 if the cells are actively dividing, 04:24 if it's a scar or if it's a old infection in there, 04:28 it won't be actively in divided. 04:30 But if the cells are actively dividing 04:32 in that part of the body, it might be an indication 04:34 that those cells shouldn't be there, 04:36 that might be an indication those are cancer cells, 04:39 so me might say, well, those are acting with body, 04:41 we better go in and get a biopsy. 04:43 Where as if those cells weren't actively dividing, 04:46 if they didn't look they're doing, 04:47 say well, you know, he is in a low risk, 04:49 he has no symptoms. 04:50 Rather than put though him a risk of procedure, 04:53 let just keep an eye on it and see if it's getting bigger. 04:57 If cancers are getting bigger and they are dangerous, 04:59 they will grow and get bigger. 05:01 And so they sometimes keep an eye on it as well. 05:03 So that's sort of new modern medicine 05:05 that we have these PET scans. Very interesting. 05:08 One of the questions we have here 05:09 from heartwiseministries.org is, 05:11 what are the some of the most common cancers? 05:13 This is a big question. 05:14 Well, probably the most common cancer 05:16 we see today is skin cancer. 05:18 You know, lots of people have skin cancer, 05:20 the one that's probably the most dangerous 05:22 of the skin cancer is one called melanoma. 05:25 You know, I don't know if you've heard about melanoma 05:27 but that's a very aggressive cancer 05:28 that spreads quickly, 05:30 so skin cancer is probably the most common 05:32 because we get it so much in our environment 05:35 and we get a lot of sunlight. 05:36 So, skin cancer is probably the most common, 05:38 we also see lung cancer. 05:40 It's a very common cancer 05:41 especially in people that smoke cigarettes, 05:44 you know, prolong exposure to this carcinogens, 05:47 breast cancer is of course very common, 05:49 they estimate that up to one in eight women 05:52 will now get breast cancer. 05:55 And another common cancer is colon cancer. 05:57 Okay, those are probably the three most ones 06:00 that we see a lot of else also skin cancers. 06:03 So those are most common cancer 06:04 but there is other cancers 06:05 that we see less often that are very dangerous. 06:08 One of them is called pancreatic cancer, 06:10 that's a very dangerous cancer that people get. 06:13 Also, you know, I'd group them 06:15 cancers like lymphoma, cancers of the lymph system, 06:19 cancer of the bone marrows. 06:20 You know, you heard the word leukemia, 06:22 that's another type of cancer 06:24 and then unfortunately we always want to know 06:27 where cancer starts, Charles. 06:28 You know, we want to know what's the primary. 06:30 You know, because what if we find a cancer in the brain. 06:33 Well, did it start in the brain 06:35 or did it move from somewhere else? 06:37 So we always want to know, 06:38 where the cancer started as well. 06:40 Because that helps know 06:41 what are the different types of treatments are available. 06:43 Now, we mentioned T. Colin Campbell in his studies earlier. 06:48 One of the most surprising things that he discovered 06:50 and that shocked him and it shocks me when I read it 06:53 and I'm sure it shocks lot of people is that 06:55 there is a certain food 06:57 that seems to be very conducive to cancer, 07:00 seems to promote it 07:02 and by reducing the intake of this food, 07:04 you can basically turn off cancer cells is what he says. 07:08 And when you increase the use of this food 07:10 you turn it back on again. 07:11 And that is cow's milk. Yeah. Cow's milk. 07:15 We have been drinking cow's milk for a long time. 07:18 What does cow's milk have to do with cancer? 07:20 Yeah, well specifically, you know, 07:22 if we look at the content of the food we eat. 07:26 For instance the content of a plant okay, 07:29 the protein is very low, where in milk and meat 07:32 the protein contents are very high 07:34 and there are certain type of proteins, 07:36 one of them is Neurocalcin 07:39 and that seems to be a protein that's been 07:41 associated with cancer, especially prostate cancer. 07:45 Men that drink lots of milk 07:47 and have those products have a much higher rates 07:50 of developing prostate cancer. 07:52 But T. Colin Campbell looked at large groups of people 07:55 and the more that they ingested animal protein, 07:59 whether it be from milk or from meat 08:01 or even from cheese, 08:03 the higher the rates of malignancy. 08:06 Now the question is 08:07 whether this trigger cancer genes 08:10 or do they speed the cancer genes, you know. 08:12 And so some people say they are sitting there 08:14 but when we have higher than that, 08:16 they have done the mice studies 08:18 and they noticed that the animals that have malignancy 08:21 that are giving an animal based protein, 08:23 they tend to take off and grow very quickly. 08:26 But also when they are treated with-- 08:28 when they were given plant based protein, 08:31 they didn't accelerate in their growth. 08:33 So there seems to be something about our diet 08:37 that stimulates the growth of cancer. 08:39 He also makes it a point in here, 08:41 and we move on to something else 08:42 but the next point here 08:44 that animal products tend to be acidic in nature, 08:47 and plant based foods tend to be alkaline 08:50 and that cancer loves acid. 08:53 Cancer grows best in an acidic environment, 08:55 so even with the Bible, even thought the body regulates 08:59 and does its best to regulate, 09:01 he found that those animal products 09:04 tend to increase the risk of cancer so. 09:07 I think bottom-line is, you know, try to stay 09:09 away from animal product as much as possible. 09:10 Well, you know, before we go on there, 09:12 it's very interesting that we know that, 09:14 you know, when you eat, you know, lot of animals, 09:16 usually people eat sometimes big meal at night 09:19 but these animal products 09:20 stay in us for long periods of time. 09:22 You know, normally we would store these in a refrigerator 09:25 because if we didn't store or refrigerate they will spoil. 09:28 When you put that in a warm, dark moist environment 09:30 it spoils when the code is all levels 09:33 and all the chemistry changes, 09:35 the circadian rhythms at night, okay. 09:37 Our digestion slows down, so its there a long time, 09:41 we make these bio-acids, 09:43 Bio-acids to digest fat are carcinogens 09:46 and guess what, we've raised our chance of developing 09:48 a cancer inside our colon 09:50 because our transit time is very import in colon cancer. 09:54 That's why if you risk of colon cancer 09:56 you can increase your transit time by eating a lot of fiber, 10:00 water and you can really lower your risk 10:02 of that type of cancer quite a bit. 10:03 One of the questions that I'm sure you get a lot, 10:05 it came into heartwiseministries.org. 10:07 And we have some samples here of some herbs 10:10 and supplements on our little display here. 10:13 The question is are there herbs and supplements 10:15 that we should be taking on a regular basis 10:18 that are protective against cancer growth? 10:21 Yeah, well, for colon cancer fiber, 10:24 you know, you want to take fiber lots of fiber 10:27 and you get that in plants, 10:28 you know, you gets lots of fiber. 10:29 If you don't get fibers, take some fiber. 10:32 We notice some people think antioxidants, 10:35 you know, have some special roles in cancer. 10:38 You know things like blueberries are antioxidants, 10:40 certain nuts are antioxidants. 10:42 Because cancer needs a lot of oxygen to grow 10:47 and so you take away the oxygen 10:49 of the cell by the antioxidants. 10:50 These free radicals and all these things 10:53 this process called oxidation 10:55 tends to be a bad thing in the body. 10:57 So antioxidants, again it comes to eating a diet 11:00 that we were designed to eat. 11:01 Therefore now things that are oxidants 11:03 or things like the animals, those are oxidants 11:06 and then we talk about the acidity and all that. 11:08 But it also works together, 11:10 so you know for colon cancer fiber 11:12 a lot of antioxidants. 11:14 We know that in people that had breast cancer before, 11:16 if they can eat a lots of fruits, 11:18 vegetables, nuts and grains 11:19 they do better with cancer recurrence. 11:21 So the simple line is there is no specific supplements 11:25 but just eat a really health diet 11:27 like God gave us in the beginning, 11:29 lots of fruits, vegetables, nuts and grains 11:31 and try to limit the animal products, 11:33 the cheese, the milks, those type of things 11:35 and I think we are going to see 11:37 that will be a start to dealing with cancer rates. 11:39 Well, that is good news indeed 11:41 that we actually can do something about it. 11:43 When we have this wonderful diet 11:46 that God gave us when we tried to remove 11:48 the toxins from our environment. 11:49 We will be talking about that more in other program. 11:51 We can actually be proactive in protection of ourselves 11:55 against cancers attack. 11:57 When we comeback Dr. Marcum 11:59 will talk to the master physician, 12:00 so stay right where you are. 12:08 You know, I haven't been able to answer all the questions 12:12 that have come in regarding cancer or malignancy 12:15 but keep going to our website and write your questions. 12:17 We will get to them at future programs. 12:20 But a couple of things I want you to leave here with, 12:23 the bottom-line so to speak with regard to cancer. 12:25 Number one, get your screening test done. 12:29 Now we want to find cancer early. 12:31 Number two, realize that nutrition 12:34 and the food you eat have a definite impact 12:37 of preventing cancer and also treating cancer, 12:41 this is very, very important. 12:43 And I think if cancer is 12:44 something that's very devastating. 12:46 These cancer are bad cells. 12:48 They want to take over our body 12:50 but also God gave us good cells, 12:51 the immune system and we want to enhance 12:54 our healthy immune system that God has given us. 12:56 We want to get those good cells 12:58 that will help get rid of those bad cells. 13:01 If someone might have cancer out there today 13:03 or be struggling this, 13:05 we want to say a special prayer with you right now, 13:07 so we just bow our heads together. 13:10 Father God, there might be someone out there 13:12 that's struggling with cancer 13:13 that might have or might prevent it. 13:15 We want to pray for your healing right now. 13:18 Please come in to that life Father 13:20 and treat them and help them 13:21 know where to go for help 13:22 and Father, no matter what happens, 13:24 help them to stay close to You 13:26 where all healing can occurs is our humble prayer, amen. 13:31 Keep an eye on the developments in cancer, 13:34 they are changing. 13:35 If you look back over many years 13:37 what we have been doing has not been working. 13:39 There is going to be new ways to treat cancer. 13:41 So we are going to be praying for you at Heartwise 13:44 that God continues to give you the best of health with him. |
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