Participants: James Marcum & Charles Mills
Series Code: UP
Program Code: UP00028A
00:01 The following program presents principles designed
00:03 to promote good health 00:04 and is not intended to take the place 00:05 of personalized professional care. 00:07 The opinions and ideas expressed are those of the speaker. 00:10 Viewers are encouraged to draw their own conclusions 00:13 about the information presented. 00:16 The heartwiseministries.org website is a busy place, 00:20 but one area gets an extra measure of attention. 00:23 It seem as many, many people 00:24 want to know about cancer and nutrition. 00:27 Interesting combination, stay tuned. 00:31 I am Dr. James Marcum. 00:33 Are you interested in discovering the reason why? 00:37 You want solutions to your healthcare problems. 00:39 Are you tired of taking medications? 00:42 Well, you are about to be given "Ultimate Prescription." 00:49 I like what the Bible says about asking. 00:52 Ask and you'll receive. 00:55 You have not because you ask not. 00:58 New testament writer James gets it right to the point 01:01 when he says in the King James Version 01:03 of the Bible 4:3, "Ye ask, and receive not, 01:07 because ye ask amiss." 01:11 Well, today we dig into the frequently asked questions 01:13 section of the heartwiseministries.org website 01:16 for the queries you've been sending in 01:18 on the subject of cancer and nutrition. 01:20 I can guarantee you that 01:22 no one has asked amiss on this subject. 01:25 Everyone has real and in some cases vital concerns. 01:29 Dr. Marcum, let's get right here to the very first question. 01:32 This is a common one. 01:34 The viewer wants to know, 01:36 why are cancer rates so very high? 01:39 Okay, well before we answer that, 01:41 we don't want to forget that question. 01:43 Let's spend a little bit of time, 01:44 making sure everyone knows and understand what cancer is. 01:47 Good idea. 01:49 Cancer is a group of cells that starts dividing crazily. 01:54 It just divides over and over, they start multiplying 01:57 and unfortunately cancer is not a friendly thing to have. 02:02 Cancer is a selfish cancer and they want to steal things, 02:05 they want to steal nutrients from other things. 02:07 They want to make blood vessels, 02:09 that just promote what it does, 02:10 so cancer is a very selfish type of disease. 02:12 It just wants to grow and grow and grow. 02:15 We don't want cancers, and sooner or later, 02:16 not only does it steal nutrition from the body 02:19 but it can also impact other organs, 02:21 it can grow into other organs, they can squish other organs, 02:25 frequently we see it squishing blood vessels, 02:27 so it can squish if it's in the brain, 02:29 it can squish the brain, if it's in the prostate, 02:31 it can squish organs that go through there, 02:33 compresses them. 02:35 So cancer is a group of cells, 02:36 different cells that are dividing uncontrollably. 02:40 Now we ask ourselves. 02:41 Well, what causes that to happen? 02:43 You know, I don't want that to happen to me. 02:45 And some cancers are clearly genetics, 02:48 we have it in us, but sometimes 02:50 it just sits there, it's dormant, okay. 02:53 And other cancers get turned on, 02:56 and actually when cancer gets turned on 02:58 there's some things we can do that actually feed cancers. 03:01 There are some things we can do to turn on cancers 03:03 and we heard this word, carcinogen, okay. 03:06 People sometimes have you know, cancer genes 03:09 and they have the carcinogen which turns on that gene 03:12 and that cancer might not be doing much, 03:14 but then we might feed it some things 03:16 that help it go grow like crazy. 03:18 And that's called the promotion stage of cancer. 03:21 And sometimes it can grow really, really quick. 03:23 So cancer is a group of cells that divide, 03:27 you know, over and over that shouldn't be doing that 03:30 and different things we have both in our genetics 03:32 as well as in our environment 03:34 can seem to turn on these cells. 03:35 And unfortunately, Charles, 03:37 these cancer rates are continuing to go up. 03:41 You know, everyone says well, why is this so. 03:43 Why is the cancer rates going up. 03:44 Some people say, well, we are just living longer. 03:47 I don't really buy that. 03:48 They say, every man that he gets old enough, 03:50 he will have prostate cancer. 03:52 Some say, well, we are now checking, 03:54 everyone is checked for cancer, 03:55 before people used to die, but that's not even true. 03:58 Even in the modern era when we can do these things, 04:01 we still see cancer rates continue to rise. 04:04 And right now, it's either number 1 or 2 04:06 in the United States every year, 04:08 and cancer is also a worldwide problem. 04:10 And everyone's concerned when they hear the word, 04:12 'you have cancer.' 04:14 Another word that people might use is, 04:15 'you've got malignancy' or you have a tumor. 04:18 Now sometimes tumor can be benign, 04:20 that means, they aren't, you know growing crazy 04:23 and some times they can be a malignant, 04:25 those malignant ones are growing rapidly, 04:27 they start squishing organs. 04:28 So back to the question, Charles. 04:30 I wanted to give that little bitty background 04:32 before we start to answer these questions. 04:34 But even by what you said, 04:35 it sounds like cancer rates are going up 04:38 because we are doing something either in our bodies 04:41 or in our environment that is making cancer possible. 04:44 Something that we weren't doing 100 or 200 years ago. 04:48 Well, I've been on the right track then? 04:50 That's right. And what was our question again. 04:52 Why are the cancer rates still high 04:54 even though we have all these medicines 04:56 and all these knowledge, it's still there? 04:59 Yeah, because we are not getting 05:00 at the cause of cancer, that's the key. 05:02 We are not getting, of course we can't change 05:04 our genetics, okay. 05:06 But we can change the things 05:07 that make cancers grow in the carcinogens. 05:10 And I like this word, prolong exposures, you know. 05:13 Prolong exposures to sun light can lead to skin cancer. 05:18 I mean on women, prolonged exposure to estrogen, 05:21 lots of estrogen leads to breast cancer, 05:25 in smokers, prolonged exposure to smoke leads to lung cancer. 05:30 In fact if you smoke you are 750 times 05:33 more likely to get lung cancer 05:35 and it's rare that I see lung cancer 05:37 in someone who doesn't smoke. 05:40 Exposure to animal products, 05:42 lots of fats and animal products in our GI tract, 05:45 prolonged exposure to that leads 05:47 to a higher relevance of colon cancer. 05:51 So a lot of these cancers that we have are prolonged exposures 05:54 to things in our environment that wasn't so good. 05:57 And why-- And it wasn't there 200 years ago. 05:59 And why nutrition comes into this formula here is 06:03 we are not eating now, 06:05 like we used to do years and years and years ago. 06:08 Now years and years ago, we ate more fresh fruits, 06:11 vegetables, nuts and grains. 06:13 Nowadays we eat a lot more of a animal based diet. 06:18 In fact if you look at the average American diet, 06:20 30% to 40% of the calories we take now are fat, okay. 06:25 And where do we get a lot or our fats from? 06:27 From animal products, from meat, eggs, cheese, 06:29 that kind of thing, from processed foods. 06:31 Also we bring in a lot of proteins that we eat. 06:35 We eat a lot more proteins than we really need. 06:37 So this nutrient composition 06:39 in our diets have changed over the years 06:43 and this nutrient composition that we get actually can affect 06:48 if we have cancer genes in our body 06:50 and it can also trigger things 06:51 and also we have a lot more of chemicals 06:54 in our environments. 06:55 Unfortunately right now people still smoke cigarettes, 06:58 and that's a carcinogen. 07:00 We have a lot of chemicals 07:01 that we don't even know what they do. 07:03 You know, you look on the labels, 07:04 labels on some of the food we eat, and we say, 07:06 wow this has this in it. 07:08 Do we even know if it's a carcinogen or not, Yeah. 07:11 The answer is no. 07:12 So we have all these things in our environment 07:14 that we did not have or perhaps feeding these 07:17 with the diets that's not how we were designed to do 07:20 and then the last factor is our immune systems. 07:23 Our immune systems are not stronger than they used to be. 07:26 Our immune systems which are able to knock these things down 07:29 are actually getting weaker and weaker. 07:31 And that's whole another talk. 07:33 But because of all the stress on our bodies, 07:35 the way we take care of our self is making, 07:37 the way we rest, the way we take care-- 07:39 The way we don't rest. 07:40 Yes, and all of that is putting 07:42 enormous strains on our immune system, 07:44 so our immune system is not able to take care of itself either. 07:47 Now these are just a few of the factors 07:49 that I wanted to let everyone know about. 07:51 But cancer is a problem. 07:52 It's a very scary thing 07:54 and that's why the rates are continued to go up 07:57 and they are not going to go down 07:58 I am afraid, unless we as individuals 08:01 can do things that lower our risk of beating this cancer, 08:05 staying away from carcinogens, 08:06 that's the real solution to the problem. 08:09 You know the cancer research is huge. 08:10 I mean there are millions 08:12 and probably billions of dollars being spent, 08:14 even as we speak there are people 08:16 in laboratories right now, studying 08:19 and they are trying to figure out 08:20 what is causing it and what to do about it, 08:23 and there are medicines being developed. 08:25 But from what I hear you're saying right now, 08:28 they are on the wrong track. Exactly. 08:30 Remember years ago, President Nixon said, 08:33 you know we put a man on the moon, 08:35 we're going to eliminate cancer. 08:37 And since that time, 08:38 the cancer rates continue to rise 08:40 and yet we're spending lots of money. 08:43 So if I were thinking about this problem of cancer 08:46 and I look and say, we're spending more money, 08:48 our society is getting sicker and sicker, 08:51 well I continue on the same pathway. 08:54 Well, I say, well may be we need to come up 08:56 with another chemotherapy regimen. 08:58 May be we need to do this. That's after the facts. 09:01 Yeah, that's what I am saying. 09:02 You know the real solution is not in this. 09:04 And you look at the numbers and that was in the 70s. 09:07 You know, that was long time ago, 09:09 40 years later the numbers are going up, 09:11 the plan is not working. 09:12 Now the plan does put a lot of people to work, 09:15 there's a lot of people working on these things. 09:17 And I am not saying that all of it is bad, 09:19 but I think we are on the wrong track, 09:21 when it comes to cancer. 09:23 I think we have to think more about preventing cancer, 09:27 detecting it early, treating our immune systems 09:31 and doing things that don't stimulate cancer to grow. 09:34 You know you are a big fan of T. Colin Campbell. 09:36 Yes, I am. I'm trying to study. 09:37 In fact we got his book there. 09:39 And he has made very clear that 09:41 it is possible to turn on and off cancer genes 09:45 in cancer problems in your body. 09:48 If that is true and I believe it is true, 09:51 why on earth would someone still insist on 09:55 doing what he says 09:56 we shouldn't do that causes cancer. 09:59 Why are we still doing that? 10:00 Well, because I don't think 10:01 people have all the data, you know. 10:03 And also we hear on the media that you have to do this, 10:06 this is the way you do it. 10:07 My doctor says, this is the way you treat it. 10:09 So I believe him. 10:10 The internet says, this is what I need to do. 10:12 Our government says, this is what we need to do. 10:13 There are all about treating it 10:15 as opposed to preventing it. Exactly. 10:18 And if you look at the studies that are being done 10:20 and Dr. Campbell looked at all these 10:22 and he noticed that people from China, 10:25 you know, when they ate in certain ways, 10:27 you know, when they move to the States 10:28 and they do westernized diet all of the sudden 10:30 their rates of cancer started to go up. 10:33 So just, may be wonders well there's something going on 10:36 with the environment, with the food 10:37 that may be this is the path we should be taking. 10:40 And now I think the new revolution in cancer 10:43 is not going to be coming up 10:44 with another chemotherapy medicine, 10:46 even though that's needed at time, 10:48 not going to be coming up with radiation, 10:50 even though that's needed. 10:51 And that's the standard way of treating. 10:53 Chemo, radiation but it's going to be in prevention, 10:57 prevention with nutrition 10:59 and perhaps even using nutrition to treat. 11:02 I would love to see studies 11:04 that someone that they thought cancer at. 11:06 For example breast cancer in a woman. 11:08 That they found a breast cancer early on and they treated it, 11:12 you know aggressively got the tumor out, 11:14 make sure they wasn't any spread, 11:16 and then they used that woman 11:17 and said listen, we are going to treat them 11:19 with a really healthy diet, not an American diet, 11:22 a really healthy diet, fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains. 11:25 Eliminate the things that we think 11:26 might be turning on cancer. 11:28 And study that group with may be a group 11:30 that does not get traditional nutrition 11:32 and I guarantee you, that we would see dramatic, 11:35 we've already known that people who eat well, 11:37 some of the studies have shown in breast cancer, 11:39 that the recurrence rate is much, much less. 11:42 Well, you know, we can look at that study 11:44 that hasn't happened yet. 11:45 But we can sort of look at it 11:46 because we know that we didn't have the problem 11:49 and now we do have the problem. 11:51 What's the difference between when we didn't have the problem 11:53 and when we do have the problem? 11:55 And a lot of things you talked about 11:57 the lack of rest, the lack of good nutrition, 12:00 the increase in our environment of toxins 12:04 that promote cancer growth. 12:06 The use of high fat foods, animal products, 12:10 what not, so it just makes sense to me 12:13 that if we want to keep from having cancer 12:15 or even if we have cancer and we want to reverse it, 12:18 it would make sense to me that 12:19 we would start doing those very things 12:23 that were necessary for caner not to exist. 12:26 Well I'll be too far off to say that. 12:27 Charles, I think you've got it perfectly, okay. 12:30 I think you've got it purposely. 12:31 And remember, you know, there is a place 12:34 for what we have in modern medicine for cancer 12:36 but when you see the rates going up every year, 12:39 we are doing something wrong. 12:40 There needs to be a refocus 12:42 and a rethinking about this thing. 12:43 Dr. Hippocrates said, let food be thy medicine. 12:47 And medicine be thy food. 12:49 You know he wasn't so far off base 12:52 and yet as our nutrition has changed, 12:54 as marketing has changed, 12:56 you know no one out there is going to tell you, 12:58 you know not to eat this way 12:59 because a lot of people are making money there's FDA, 13:01 a lot of people are marketing this 13:02 because there's a lot of jobs at stake, 13:04 so each one of us as individuals 13:06 have to take the time to learn about cancer 13:09 or learn about our bodies. 13:10 You are your own best physician, Charles. Not me. 13:13 You are your best physician, 13:14 with God as the ultimate physician. 13:16 Well, we are going to take a short break now 13:17 and when we come back, 13:18 we'll talk more about some of the questions 13:20 that have come in to heartwiseministries.org 13:22 concerning cancer and nutrition. 13:24 What I guess the message we're trying to say is, 13:27 here that they are connected. Yes. 13:29 Cancer and nutrition, there is a connection there, 13:31 a very viable connection. 13:32 People like T Colin Campbell have shown this 13:34 to be very conclusive, that when you change your diet, 13:37 you change not only your chances of having cancer 13:41 but you can also deal with cancer with nutrition. 13:44 So we'll talk more about that 13:45 and your questions for heartwiseministries.org, 13:47 so stay right where you are. |
Revised 2014-12-17