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The heartwiseministries.org
website is a busy place,
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but one area gets an
extra measure of attention.
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It seem as many, many people
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want to know about
cancer and nutrition.
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Interesting
combination, stay tuned.
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I am Dr. James Marcum.
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Are you interested in
discovering the reason why?
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You want solutions to
your healthcare problems.
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Are you tired of
taking medications?
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Well, you are about to be
given "Ultimate Prescription."
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I like what the
Bible says about asking.
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Ask and you'll receive.
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You have not
because you ask not.
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New testament writer
James gets it right to the point
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when he says in
the King James Version
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of the Bible 4:3,
"Ye ask, and receive not,
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because ye ask amiss."
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Well, today we dig into
the frequently asked questions
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section of the
heartwiseministries.org website
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for the queries
you've been sending in
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on the subject of
cancer and nutrition.
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I can guarantee you that
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no one has asked
amiss on this subject.
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Everyone has real and in
some cases vital concerns.
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Dr. Marcum, let's get right
here to the very first question.
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This is a common one.
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The viewer wants to know,
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why are cancer
rates so very high?
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Okay, well
before we answer that,
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we don't want to
forget that question.
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Let's spend a
little bit of time,
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making sure everyone knows
and understand what cancer is.
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Good idea.
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Cancer is a group of cells
that starts dividing crazily.
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It just divides over and
over, they start multiplying
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and unfortunately cancer is
not a friendly thing to have.
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Cancer is a selfish cancer
and they want to steal things,
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they want to steal
nutrients from other things.
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They want to make blood vessels,
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that just promote what it does,
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so cancer is a very
selfish type of disease.
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It just wants to
grow and grow and grow.
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We don't want
cancers, and sooner or later,
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not only does it steal
nutrition from the body
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but it can also
impact other organs,
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it can grow into other organs,
they can squish other organs,
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frequently we see it
squishing blood vessels,
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so it can squish
if it's in the brain,
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it can squish the
brain, if it's in the prostate,
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it can squish organs
that go through there,
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compresses them.
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So cancer is a group of cells,
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different cells that
are dividing uncontrollably.
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Now we ask ourselves.
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Well, what
causes that to happen?
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You know, I don't
want that to happen to me.
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And some cancers
are clearly genetics,
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we have it in us, but sometimes
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it just sits
there, it's dormant, okay.
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And other cancers get turned on,
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and actually when
cancer gets turned on
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there's some things we can
do that actually feed cancers.
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There are some things we
can do to turn on cancers
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and we heard this
word, carcinogen, okay.
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People sometimes have
you know, cancer genes
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and they have the carcinogen
which turns on that gene
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and that cancer
might not be doing much,
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but then we might
feed it some things
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that help it go grow like crazy.
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And that's called the
promotion stage of cancer.
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And sometimes it can
grow really, really quick.
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So cancer is a group
of cells that divide,
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you know, over and over
that shouldn't be doing that
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and different things we
have both in our genetics
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as well as in our environment
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can seem to turn on these cells.
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And unfortunately, Charles,
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these cancer rates
are continuing to go up.
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You know, everyone
says well, why is this so.
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Why is the
cancer rates going up.
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Some people say, well,
we are just living longer.
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I don't really buy that.
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They say, every man
that he gets old enough,
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he will have prostate cancer.
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Some say, well,
we are now checking,
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everyone is checked for cancer,
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before people used to
die, but that's not even true.
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Even in the modern era
when we can do these things,
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we still see cancer
rates continue to rise.
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And right now, it's
either number 1 or 2
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in the United States every year,
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and cancer is also
a worldwide problem.
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And everyone's concerned
when they hear the word,
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'you have cancer.'
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Another word that
people might use is,
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'you've got
malignancy' or you have a tumor.
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Now sometimes
tumor can be benign,
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that means, they
aren't, you know growing crazy
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and some times
they can be a malignant,
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those malignant
ones are growing rapidly,
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they start squishing organs.
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So back to the
question, Charles.
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I wanted to give that
little bitty background
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before we start to
answer these questions.
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But even by what you said,
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it sounds like
cancer rates are going up
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because we are doing
something either in our bodies
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or in our environment
that is making cancer possible.
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Something that we weren't
doing 100 or 200 years ago.
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Well, I've been on
the right track then?
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That's right. And what
was our question again.
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Why are the
cancer rates still high
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even though we
have all these medicines
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and all these
knowledge, it's still there?
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Yeah, because we are not getting
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at the cause of
cancer, that's the key.
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We are not getting,
of course we can't change
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our genetics, okay.
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But we can change the things
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that make cancers
grow in the carcinogens.
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And I like this word,
prolong exposures, you know.
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Prolong exposures to sun
light can lead to skin cancer.
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I mean on women,
prolonged exposure to estrogen,
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lots of estrogen
leads to breast cancer,
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in smokers, prolonged exposure
to smoke leads to lung cancer.
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In fact if you
smoke you are 750 times
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more likely to get lung cancer
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and it's rare
that I see lung cancer
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in someone who doesn't smoke.
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Exposure to animal products,
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lots of fats and animal
products in our GI tract,
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prolonged exposure to that leads
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to a higher
relevance of colon cancer.
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So a lot of these cancers that
we have are prolonged exposures
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to things in our
environment that wasn't so good.
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And why-- And it
wasn't there 200 years ago.
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And why nutrition comes
into this formula here is
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we are not eating now,
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like we used to do
years and years and years ago.
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Now years and years ago,
we ate more fresh fruits,
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vegetables, nuts and grains.
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Nowadays we eat a lot
more of a animal based diet.
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In fact if you look at
the average American diet,
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30% to 40% of the calories
we take now are fat, okay.
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And where do we get
a lot or our fats from?
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From animal products,
from meat, eggs, cheese,
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that kind of thing,
from processed foods.
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Also we bring in a lot
of proteins that we eat.
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We eat a lot more
proteins than we really need.
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So this nutrient composition
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in our diets have
changed over the years
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and this nutrient composition
that we get actually can affect
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if we have
cancer genes in our body
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and it can also trigger things
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and also we have a
lot more of chemicals
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in our environments.
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Unfortunately right now
people still smoke cigarettes,
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and that's a carcinogen.
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We have a lot of chemicals
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that we don't
even know what they do.
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You know, you
look on the labels,
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labels on some of the
food we eat, and we say,
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wow this has this in it.
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Do we even know if it's
a carcinogen or not, Yeah.
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The answer is no.
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So we have all these
things in our environment
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that we did not have
or perhaps feeding these
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with the diets that's not
how we were designed to do
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and then the last
factor is our immune systems.
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Our immune systems are not
stronger than they used to be.
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Our immune systems which are
able to knock these things down
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are actually
getting weaker and weaker.
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And that's whole another talk.
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But because of all
the stress on our bodies,
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the way we take care
of our self is making,
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the way we rest,
the way we take care--
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The way we don't rest.
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Yes, and all of that is putting
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enormous strains
on our immune system,
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so our immune system is not able
to take care of itself either.
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Now these are just
a few of the factors
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that I wanted to
let everyone know about.
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But cancer is a problem.
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It's a very scary thing
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and that's why the
rates are continued to go up
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and they are
not going to go down
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I am afraid,
unless we as individuals
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can do things that lower
our risk of beating this cancer,
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staying away from carcinogens,
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that's the real
solution to the problem.
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You know the
cancer research is huge.
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I mean there are millions
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and probably billions
of dollars being spent,
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even as we
speak there are people
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in laboratories
right now, studying
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and they are
trying to figure out
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what is causing it
and what to do about it,
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and there are
medicines being developed.
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But from what I hear
you're saying right now,
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they are on the
wrong track. Exactly.
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Remember years ago,
President Nixon said,
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you know we put
a man on the moon,
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we're going to eliminate cancer.
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And since that time,
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the cancer
rates continue to rise
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and yet we're
spending lots of money.
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So if I were thinking
about this problem of cancer
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and I look and say,
we're spending more money,
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our society is
getting sicker and sicker,
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well I continue
on the same pathway.
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Well, I say, well
may be we need to come up
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with another
chemotherapy regimen.
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May be we need to do
this. That's after the facts.
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Yeah, that's what I am saying.
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You know the real
solution is not in this.
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And you look at the
numbers and that was in the 70s.
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You know, that
was long time ago,
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40 years later the
numbers are going up,
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the plan is not working.
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Now the plan does put
a lot of people to work,
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there's a lot of people
working on these things.
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And I am not saying
that all of it is bad,
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but I think we are
on the wrong track,
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when it comes to cancer.
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I think we have to think
more about preventing cancer,
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detecting it early,
treating our immune systems
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and doing things that
don't stimulate cancer to grow.
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You know you are a big
fan of T. Colin Campbell.
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Yes, I am. I'm trying to study.
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In fact we got his book there.
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And he has made very clear that
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it is possible to turn
on and off cancer genes
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in cancer problems in your body.
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If that is true and
I believe it is true,
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why on earth would
someone still insist on
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doing what he says
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we shouldn't do
that causes cancer.
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Why are we still doing that?
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Well, because I don't think
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people have all
the data, you know.
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And also we hear on the
media that you have to do this,
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this is the way you do it.
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My doctor says, this
is the way you treat it.
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So I believe him.
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The internet says,
this is what I need to do.
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Our government says,
this is what we need to do.
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There are all about treating it
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as opposed to
preventing it. Exactly.
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And if you look at the
studies that are being done
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and Dr. Campbell
looked at all these
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and he noticed
that people from China,
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you know, when they
ate in certain ways,
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you know, when
they move to the States
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and they do westernized
diet all of the sudden
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their rates of
cancer started to go up.
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So just, may be wonders
well there's something going on
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with the
environment, with the food
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that may be this is the
path we should be taking.
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And now I think the
new revolution in cancer
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is not going to be coming up
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with another
chemotherapy medicine,
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even though
that's needed at time,
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not going to be
coming up with radiation,
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even though that's needed.
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And that's the
standard way of treating.
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Chemo, radiation but it's
going to be in prevention,
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prevention with nutrition
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and perhaps even
using nutrition to treat.
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I would love to see studies
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that someone that
they thought cancer at.
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For example
breast cancer in a woman.
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That they found a breast cancer
early on and they treated it,
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you know
aggressively got the tumor out,
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make sure they
wasn't any spread,
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and then they used that woman
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and said listen, we
are going to treat them
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with a really healthy
diet, not an American diet,
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a really healthy diet, fruits,
vegetables, nuts, grains.
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Eliminate the
things that we think
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might be turning on cancer.
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And study that
group with may be a group
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that does not get
traditional nutrition
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and I guarantee you,
that we would see dramatic,
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we've already known
that people who eat well,
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some of the studies
have shown in breast cancer,
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that the recurrence
rate is much, much less.
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Well, you know, we
can look at that study
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that hasn't happened yet.
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But we can sort of look at it
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because we know that
we didn't have the problem
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and now we do have the problem.
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What's the difference between
when we didn't have the problem
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and when we do have the problem?
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And a lot of
things you talked about
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the lack of rest, the
lack of good nutrition,
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the increase in our
environment of toxins
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that promote cancer growth.
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The use of high fat
foods, animal products,
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what not, so it
just makes sense to me
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that if we want to
keep from having cancer
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or even if we have cancer
and we want to reverse it,
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it would make sense to me that
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we would start
doing those very things
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that were necessary
for caner not to exist.
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Well I'll be too
far off to say that.
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Charles, I think
you've got it perfectly, okay.
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I think you've got it purposely.
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And remember, you
know, there is a place
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for what we have in
modern medicine for cancer
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but when you see the
rates going up every year,
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we are doing something wrong.
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There needs to be a refocus
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and a rethinking
about this thing.
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Dr. Hippocrates said,
let food be thy medicine.
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And medicine be thy food.
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You know he
wasn't so far off base
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and yet as our
nutrition has changed,
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as marketing has changed,
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you know no one out
there is going to tell you,
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you know not to eat this way
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because a lot of people
are making money there's FDA,
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a lot of people
are marketing this
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because there's a
lot of jobs at stake,
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so each one of us as individuals
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have to take the
time to learn about cancer
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or learn about our bodies.
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You are your own best
physician, Charles. Not me.
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You are your best physician,
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with God as the
ultimate physician.
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Well, we are going to
take a short break now
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and when we come back,
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we'll talk more
about some of the questions
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that have come in to
heartwiseministries.org
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concerning cancer and nutrition.
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What I guess the
message we're trying to say is,
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here that they
are connected. Yes.
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Cancer and nutrition,
there is a connection there,
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a very viable connection.
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People like T Colin
Campbell have shown this
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to be very conclusive,
that when you change your diet,
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you change not only
your chances of having cancer
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but you can also deal
with cancer with nutrition.
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So we'll talk more about that
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and your questions for
heartwiseministries.org,
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so stay right where you are.
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