Dr. Marcum, before we
get into our questions
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that have been sent in
to Heartwise Ministries,
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I want to ask you something.
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What is the philosophy
of Heartwise Ministries?
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Why are we here
doing this program?
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Why do you have a website?
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Why do you have a ministry?
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Well, you know, we talked a
little bit about it already.
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We want to put
everything together.
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You know, there's a
place for modern medicine,
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there's a place for lifestyle,
there's a place for nutrition.
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But what we want
to add our philosophy
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is we bring the ultimate
physician into the equation.
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We bring Him
into the relationship,
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bring Him into the life.
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We look at, you
know, how God gives us ways
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to change our chemistry and that
looks a little bit different.
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How many doctors'
offices if you've gone to,
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where we talk about
the spiritual matters.
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You know what,
Charles, I found that,
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when you start talking about
spiritual things in medicine.
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Spiritual healing, the devil,
the evil one would do everything
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he can to make
things not work, you know.
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You know, who knows
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when these lights
might fall down on us.
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He does everything he can all
the time to prevent his message,
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his truth in healing to get
out there and you know what.
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In our modern medicine
where we are so focused
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on the here and
now, the symptoms.
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We don't look a the big picture.
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So the philosophy
of Heartwise Ministries
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is not only to encourage people
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to look for the
ultimate physician.
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I don't have all the truth.
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There's only one
that has all the truth.
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To look to Him
for truth and continue
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to grow and
realize, we are humans.
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You know, everything's
not done in one day,
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you know it takes time to learn
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and we have to
also look for truth.
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Get rid of some of
the preconceived notions
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we have and take
the time to listen.
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Listen to God as He comes to us,
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and He wants to be the healer,
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He wants to be the physician.
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So I just treat
symptoms, Charles.
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All of us are healers when
we minister to one and others,
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but the ultimate
doctor we should be looking
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through to answers is up there.
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And if we start doing this,
we're going to have healing
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and that's sort of
what our philosophy
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is and that's a little
bit how we are different
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than some of the
other ministries out there.
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All of who are
doing great things,
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but we want to continue
to find spiritual things,
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things in the Bible
that change our chemistry.
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Every bit as much more
so than medicines and pills
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but also leads
to eternal healing.
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We also want to
work in people's minds
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and meet them where they are.
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And to love them and to help
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and not judge them, because
all that guilt, you know.
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Lot of people are
unhealthy out there
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and it just takes
time, so to get them back
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to their health, and
that's what we try to teach
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that we can do
things one step at a time
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with a direction of the
ultimate healer in our lives.
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We have an
interesting point that sometimes
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when we go with a modern
medicine and we feel better.
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Yeah. You think, okay,
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everything is fine,
everything is fixed.
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I feel great, I am
taking these drugs now
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and I've had this
procedure and I've had this done
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to me here and there.
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Everything must
be good to go now,
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so there's no
need for me to make
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any lifestyle
changes, there's no need
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for me to change my
diet because the doctor
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has fixed me up with this
wonderful pill that I have
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in my body now, it is
taking care of the problem.
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I am good to go.
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But you're saying
that may not be the case.
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Right. Let me give you an
illustration, Charles? Sure.
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I take this hammer out.
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Okay, this is a reflex hammer.
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When you test the reflex.
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And I start
banging you on the head,
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over and over and over and over.
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And you said, neigh, that hurts.
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Yes. That hurts a lot.
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You know, the solution is not to
take a pill and dull the pain.
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It might not hurt
anymore or give you a medicine
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that knock you out,
you might have feel it,
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the real solution is to
quit hitting you in the head.
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And that's what we have
to get in modern medicine.
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We have to get to
the real answers, why?
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If someone's not
sleeping at night,
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whoops, knocked the book cover.
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Why am I not
sleeping well at night?
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Yeah. If you have acid
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in your stomach, you know
why, why is there, you know,
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why is there too
much acid in the stomach.
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If you're having pain
anywhere, why am I having pain?
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If you had a heart attack,
why did you have a heart attack?
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If you have depression,
why do you have depression?
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And that if we
ask the question, why?
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And bring the Holy
Spirit through our relationship
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with God in the equation,
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He will help us
find out the reasons why.
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That is so
important for us to know
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that the philosophy of health
needs to center around that word
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'why' why is this happening.
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Why am I doing this?
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What is driving me
into this ill health?
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Why, why, why, why?
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And that's how our philosophy
is a little bit different.
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You know, we want to take
what everyone else's doing
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and add a new dimension.
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All right.
Here's some questions,
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Dr. Marcum from
Heartwiseministries.org
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and I invite you
viewers to send your questions
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into that address because
we love to address them like
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we are doing right
now on the program.
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Question number
one, this is interesting.
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Do you actually see patients
or do you just write books,
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make health programs and answer
questions on the internet?
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Well, that's a great question.
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Because a lot of the programs
out there we see in health,
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the doctors are
doing this full time.
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Yeah. And I wish sometimes,
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I could do it full
time but I still practice,
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I see on my on days, I usually
see 32 patients in the office.
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I work for the
Chattanooga Heart Institute
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in Chattanooga,
Tennessee, but at the same time,
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that lets me meet people
where they are at and understand
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their real needs, and
not living on ivory tower.
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Yeah. You know
I've had a fellow come
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to me the other day and he
needed some dietary counseling,
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you know, he weighed a
lot, about near 400 pounds
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and he ate at the
Cracker Barrel a lot, a lot.
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And we had to meet him
where he is at and we said,
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listen, may be instead of eating
at the Cracker Barrel every day,
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may be you should limit
it to one or two times a week
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and start there,
so in the office,
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you get to meet
people where they are.
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You get to understand them.
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And you also get to introduce
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him to this great
physician on a personal basis.
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And some people
don't even know how to pray
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or how to start a
relationship with God
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and that's why I really
still like seeing patients
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every day in the
office. Absolutely, absolutely.
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So I see patients. That's why,
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that's why I trust
what you say because,
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here is a man who is
seeing people on a daily basis
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and what he is saying
to us, he has seen work,
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not years ago, not
in some test some place
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but in his own office.
And that's kind of nice.
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You know, I want
to interrupt you here,
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I was in California recently
doing a television program
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with the other
ministry and there was a doctor
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there that wrote great
books and he looked young.
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You know, he is like
37 years old and I said,
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well, do you see, you
know he went to medical school
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and I said, you see patients.
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Oh, no, I don't
see any patients,
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I just travel from place to
place selling books in writing.
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So he doesn't
really see the patients.
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So lot of the people
out there really don't have
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that practical experience.
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So I try to
bring the practicality,
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the real world and most
of us live in the real world.
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You know,
sometimes I meet patients,
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that are that,
who can do everything
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at once and more power to them,
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but most of us
live in the real world
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and we have to meet
people where they are at.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
Another question here,
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we've talked a little about
this. How is Hearwise different
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from other
ministries, and of course
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we can also include in there,
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this television ministry,
this television program,
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how is it different
from Dr. Oz for instance.
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Yeah. This is a
very popular program
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and he does a lot of stuff,
talks a lot about the subjects
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that are important to all of us.
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How is Ultimate
Prescription different from Oz.
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Yeah, well,
several differences, okay.
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First of all, that we
acknowledge, the ultimate,
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we are just conduits,
we are just messengers
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and we like to think
that we are giving out
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the message that comes from God.
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So that's we acknowledge,
He is the ultimate physician,
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He is the one we want to
give all praise and glory
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to and look to the answers.
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That's one thing
that we are different.
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You don't see that in
a lot of other programs,
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with upfront they say that.
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The second thing is, we
are not selling anything.
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We are not selling a herb,
we are not selling a medication,
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we are not
selling some treatment,
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we are not
selling anything, okay.
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We don't get
paid to do this, okay.
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We don't make our
living doing this.
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We do this, both you and I,
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and the people
involved in Heartwise Ministries
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because we want to
serve. That's right.
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And in that service, we
also get a chemical benefit,
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you know, so I get a
chemical benefit because,
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when I serve, I am actually
in the state of worship,
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so I am, when I am
doing programs like this,
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I am actually
making my chemistry better,
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I'm lowering my
stress levels, I'm creating
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new pathways in my brain.
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We are going to talk
about this on another program,
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so I am actually, when service,
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I am actually
helping myself in that way.
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So that's just two of
the ways we are different.
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Yeah, yeah. Interesting
that when we are loving people,
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when we are providing a
service, when we are showing
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them kindness, and
giving them information
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that they need to be healthy,
spiritually and physically.
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It's a medicine
for ourselves.. Yeah,
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in some of the other programs,
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I worry about, you know,
they give good information,
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but sometimes I worry
about where their motivation
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is coming from, you know,
why are they really doing this.
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You know, is it
something that they want to do,
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because they want someone
to do better and feel better
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and to be permanently
healed, where it might be there
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some other reasons
involved because the reason
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why they are doing
things is important too.
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That brings to mind an
important question it was asked
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at
HeartwiseMinistries.org recently
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and I have it here on my list,
but I get this a lot from people
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on the radio program, and
in our television program.
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They want to know how
do you, a cardiologist,
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how do you, Dr.
Marcum, when you are confronted
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with the same
flood, and I imagine
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for a medical doctor
the flood is even greater,
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a flood of information,
a flood of products,
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a flood of latest and
greatest, a flood of studies,
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how do you
personally shift through it,
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and beside what you want
to present to your patients.
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How do you do that because
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we need to learn
how to do that too.
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Yeah, that's the
great place that I learned
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how to do this is
in my personal worship,
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in my personal time with God.
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I specifically ask
Him to show me things,
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show me new
truths, show me places
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that I needed to go, lead me.
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And when there's
something that comes up,
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I look at the science behind
it, I look to see if it agrees
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with the principles in the
Bible and then I pray about it.
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God is this
something that you want
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me to add to my patient's lives.
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Is this something
that You would recommend
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and more than that is
that something that enhances
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the
relationship I have with you,
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and my patients
will have with you?
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And if all the answers to
that question are lining up,
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then I say,
well, this is something
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that I need to increase.
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What I've really been working
on lately is how our brains
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and our health
interact, you know.
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And that's one of the
places, that God has been moving
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me through the
scriptures to bring this out
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and let people know
that our minds, our brains,
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it's influenced by
so many things now.
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This is a key to our health
and it's a key to understanding.
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You know, what
medicines should we take,
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which one shouldn't we take.
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How do we get to
this better lifestyle?
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How do we eat better?
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How do we relate to each other?
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So this is going to be key to
understanding our minds a lot,
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and unfortunately through
the years the mind, the brain,
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we have done very few studies
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on how the brain
interacts with health.
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You know, we can
treat the downhill
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of  that to the brains,
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but we are not getting sometimes
at the core of the problem.
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You know there is
a text in the Bible,
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as a man thinketh so he
is, create me a new heart.
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All of these
things that God says,
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over 700 times, He
refers to the heart.
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It is sometimes shocking,
that connection between
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the physical health
and the mental health.
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They are so
intertwined and the good news
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is Dr. Marcum, when
you give suggestions
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on this program for exercise
and diet and philosophy,
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it's going to affect both
the mind and the body equally.
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There's going to be healing
on both sides of that aisle.
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And that is good
news for anyone listening.
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Well, we will take a
short break right now.
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When we come back, I am
going to ask Dr. Marcum,
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if he would take us
to have an appointment
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with the ultimate physician.
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We can all do this at home.
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We can do this any
time, 24/7 he is open
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and that is to come to
the ultimate physician,
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the master physician, the loving
God that loves us in prayer.
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And Dr. Marcum, will
do that when we return.
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It's very important
that we include conversations
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with God in our
healing processes.
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So stay right where you are.
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Thank you for joining us today
on the "Ultimate Prescription."
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On program today, we
talked a little bit about
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the philosophy of
Heartwise Ministries
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and the philosophy of health.
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And you know there's
many things that entail health
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and I think we've talked about
them today but one of the things
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I want to leave you
with, no matter what you leave
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the program with
today, I want you to realize
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that the Ultimate Prescription,
the part of the healing triangle
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that must be incorporated,
is that relationship
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we have with
the heavenly Father.
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That's what we do different
than other health programs.
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Yes, there is a
place for lifestyle,
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and we want
everyone to eat healthy,
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lots of fruits,
vegetables, nuts and grains,
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drink lots of
water, we want that.
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But at the same
time we understand
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that there are some
people that they might
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move along this
in a slow pathway.
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Everything might
not happen at once.
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We also want people to
have a healthy lifestyle
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and get out
there and do exercise
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and get enough rest
and all those things.
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But we also know
as we've talked about
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early that we have
the ultimate physician,
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that great physician,
that we can come to every day
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and He is going to
help us make changes.
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Even if those changes
are just one step at a time.
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Even if it's slow,
and even if we mess up
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one day in our health,
if we forget our medicines,
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or forget our treatments
or whatever we are working on,
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we can come to Him the next day,
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and He's going to be there to
love us and to take care of us.
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There might be someone
out there that needs prayer
00:13:30.72\00:13:32.66
for healing or help
to change the lifestyle
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or to do a little bit better.
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Or there might be someone
out there that's never had
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this relationship
with their heavenly Father
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as part of their
treatment regimen.
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Well, I want to
pray for you right now,
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and I also I want to invite
you to send your questions
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and comments to our website,
heartwiseministries.org,
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where we can answer
your questions directly.
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Let's just bow
our heads together.
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Father in heaven,
as we come before You,
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we want to invite Your
Holy Spirit into our hearts
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so we can listen to Your voice,
do away with our preconceived
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notions about health and
healing and help us to realize
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that You are the
ultimate physician that one
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we should turn to for
answers in our healthcare.
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We want to include you in every
aspect of our lives, Father.
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And if some one there might
need this extra help today,
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Father, please come into
their lives and show them
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how to keep this
relationship with You going,
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is our prayer, amen."
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I want to thank you
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for joining us on the
"Ultimate Prescription."
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You can learn more
about Heartwise Ministries
00:14:34.52\00:14:36.84
and get your
questions answered by going
00:14:36.87\00:14:39.17
to our website
heartwiseminsitries.org.
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I want to wish all of
you the best of health
00:14:42.33\00:14:45.06
and remember go to the
ultimate physician daily
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and He would give
you permanent healing.
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