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Diabetes Under Construction

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: James Marcum & Charles Mills

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00:01 Welcome back to the program. I'm Charles Mills.
00:02 We're here with Dr. James Marcum.
00:04 We're talking about diabetes today
00:05 and from the first half of this program that is something
00:08 that I don't want to have anywhere near me
00:11 and I'm sure that you would agree
00:12 that's something you'd like to have out of your life.
00:14 But just in case, you are suffering from this disease,
00:18 we have some good news for you if it's type 2.
00:20 We have some really good news
00:21 and we'll be talking about that more on our next program.
00:23 But right now, Dr. Marcum, let's talk about the questions
00:26 that have been sent in to us at heartwiseministries.org--
00:29 Now if you want to do the questions,
00:30 you know, we've been talking about these serious medical--
00:33 Oh, it's awful-- Problems that kill people--
00:34 It's awful. You know, I almost feel
00:35 like we should have a humor, humor break.
00:38 Let's do that please. I'm feeling depressed.
00:39 You know, I don't know
00:41 if you know any jokes or not,
00:42 but you know-- Any diabetes jokes?
00:44 You know, I don't know if you know any of those,
00:45 but did you know that when you smile and laugh
00:48 and make someone else happy,
00:49 did you know what you can do with their blood sugar?
00:51 You can actually bring their blood sugar down.
00:53 So if I tickle you and you start giggling,
00:56 you make endorphins, lesser the stress chemicals
00:58 including one called cortisol,
00:59 so you can at least bring down
01:01 your blood sugar a little bit so--
01:02 What a fun medication that would be.
01:04 So maybe we should just give everyone--
01:05 Tickle. A little bit laughing,
01:07 'cause remember we were designed to be happy and laughing. Yeah.
01:09 I know we talk about all these health topics all the time
01:12 and you know it can get discouraging. Yes.
01:14 You know, and I don't want to discourage people.
01:16 I want to make them happy and laugh
01:18 you know, you know, I would love to--
01:19 I would much rather sometimes be a comedian
01:21 than be a bearer of bad news.
01:23 So we want to be the bearer of good news--Good news, yes.
01:25 And, you know, even though we talk about in the series
01:28 all these diseases that kill people,
01:30 we also have some great news. Oh, that's so good--
01:32 It's not gonna always be like this.
01:34 We're gonna have some good times
01:35 and some happy times and some laughter.
01:37 But when you look at the trends of diabetes,
01:39 I'm looking at some of the statistics now.
01:41 Diabetes is now 300 times more than
01:43 it was just 10 years ago.
01:46 That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people--
01:48 That's nothing to laugh at.
01:50 And you know 80% of people with diabetics
01:52 that are type 2 die from heart attacks.
01:54 That's not good news.
01:55 But I also got some good news
01:57 is that we can have information to reverse this.
01:59 We can also plug in you to an Ultimate Prescription,
02:02 that's gonna bring you a lot of joy in your life.
02:04 And we want people to not feel
02:05 so burdened by all this 'cause I've a lot of feeling
02:07 that they think about their health,
02:09 Charles, and they feel, "Oh, I'm so burdened.
02:11 I can't live." You know?
02:12 Well, we want to empower you,
02:14 to make you happy, to give you joy in your life
02:16 'cause that's a great treatment to be happy
02:18 and not to be fearful about all the things,
02:20 but to be proactive, the things you can do,
02:22 you could be happy about these things.
02:23 Like Dr. Hans Diehl-- over the CHIP program says,
02:27 "Life by the right choice is not by chance,
02:29 that we make decisions in our everyday life
02:32 on an everyday basis that really have profound effects
02:36 on how we feel and-- and how we function."
02:39 It's pretty amazing. Yeah, we want people
02:41 to be positive, to be happy,
02:43 and even if you are a type 2 diabetic,
02:45 you know, take the bull by the horn, you know.
02:47 You know, get these-- do these things
02:49 and don't be burdened by it so it just drags you down.
02:52 Look at the positive, not the negative.
02:53 That's a great prescription. Let's go to some questions.
02:55 All right, here's questions from heartwiseministries.org.
02:58 "I hear that diabetes is on the rise.
03:01 Is this true or just media hype?
03:03 Are the people who are making diabetes medicines
03:05 trying to convince us that, 'Boy, we need this'?"
03:07 Well, that's a great question 'cause right here
03:09 we have a blood sugar check, that people can check
03:12 if they're on diabetes medicines.
03:14 It's very important that if you're on
03:15 diabetic medicines that you have a check,
03:17 as you don't want your blood sugar to go too low.
03:19 So these people don't really want you to--
03:21 well, I'm not gonna say that but--
03:22 No, no, we're not gonna tell which brand is,
03:24 yeah, but there's people making money of these
03:25 especially when it goes up every year. Yes.
03:27 This is a device called a glucometer
03:30 that measures your blood sugar.
03:32 I want to put these people out of business.
03:34 Well, you well-- Let's do that, let's do that.
03:36 We might be able to. Yes.
03:37 But if you think about these numbers,
03:39 there's a lot of money to be made by investing in diabetes,
03:43 either the companies or the medications
03:45 or the end results of disease.
03:47 And that makes me mad because they are depending--
03:50 and it's not good for my health is it? No.
03:52 'Cause they're depending on us to not make the right choices.
03:55 They're depending on us to just keep on going the way
03:57 we've been going so they can make a lot of money off of us.
03:59 Well, that's--and that's exactly what happened.
04:01 It's estimated that in the States,
04:03 $1 in $5 is spent on healthcare. Yeah.
04:06 Now other countries aren't quite to that number yet,
04:09 but as we see these diseases that kill people rise
04:12 and we just treat the symptoms and don't get at the cause,
04:16 we're gonna continue to have one more problem.
04:17 So this is not media hype.
04:19 Diabetes is a problem and the real solution
04:22 is not necessarily to treat you with a lot of end organ things.
04:26 The treatment's not an amputation. Yeah.
04:28 It's not to help do laser surgery on your eyes,
04:30 to start dialysis, to do bypass on diabetic vessels,
04:35 the neuropathy to take another pill to help the neuropathy,
04:38 you know, to wear special shoes
04:40 which diabetics frequently have to do,
04:43 to take medicines to help with impotence.
04:46 You know, that's not really the solution
04:47 when the body starts having these problems,
04:49 but the real solution is to get at the cause of the problem,
04:52 what's this long-term exposure that goes against the way
04:55 I was designed, let's get at that through
04:57 the power of this Ultimate Prescription
04:59 and make some real changes.
05:01 These are the answers to the, you know,
05:03 no one's really asked me, you know,
05:05 I haven't got a call from the President
05:06 or anyone and you know--
05:08 what's the guy that's in charge of all the health in America
05:11 called, something general, right?
05:13 Surgeon general. Surgeon general.
05:15 Surgeon general. Surgeon general, okay.
05:16 You know, I can't wait to get a call from him saying,
05:17 "Listen, you know,
05:19 do you have any solutions to the healthcare dilemma?"
05:21 And I say, "Well, I'm glad you asked.
05:23 I have an Ultimate Prescription
05:24 that you can announce to the country." That's right.
05:26 "You know, we see a lot of medical shows on
05:28 and so about, you know, all these other medical shows
05:31 that are talking about the devices
05:33 and we see a lot of people talking
05:34 about supplements and exercises,
05:36 but we see these numbers rise every year,
05:38 so I don't think it's working.
05:40 You know, but I have some solutions.
05:41 You want to hear about this
05:43 Ultimate Prescription that I have.
05:44 I've been talking about it
05:46 on Three Angel Broadcasting Network.
05:47 I've written a book about it.
05:48 We're getting this out to the entire world
05:50 a new way to think about health and healing.
05:53 A way that looks at all these, doesn't dis anybody,
05:56 but it plugs into the ultimate physician that can heal us.
06:00 Don't you want to save millions and billions of dollars
06:02 in your healthcare plan, cut back insurance costs,
06:05 make everyone happy? Don't you want this?
06:07 Isn't this a plan we want for our lives in our world?
06:10 You know, you want to hear about it?"
06:12 So I'm hoping he's watching today
06:14 or he reads the book and he can get back and say,
06:16 "Yes, we want to hear about this."
06:18 And we're just messengers, Charles.
06:20 So we want to get this message to everyone
06:22 'cause this message has been around a long, long time.
06:26 The medical text book, the Bible,
06:28 which I use as my medical text has been--
06:30 Amen. A long, a long time.
06:32 This one is in the Proverbs,
06:33 "A merry heart does good like medicine."
06:35 You know how to change someone's mind?
06:37 How to have a perfect life?
06:39 This is where I want to go to get my prescriptions.
06:42 I want to start here with the answers
06:44 and I want him to lead me to modern medicine when needed.
06:47 So I'm hoping someone listens
06:48 and we have the answer to the healthcare dilemma
06:50 right here on this program, Charles.
06:52 We're at cutting edge. Yeah, you know--
06:54 More people should be talking about this.
06:55 I was talking with Brian Wendel.
06:57 He is the producer of "Forks Over Knives"--Yeah.
06:58 It was that movie that came out. Excellent, excellent.
07:00 They took this to Washington DC
07:02 and they showed it on Capital Hill
07:04 and a bunch of the aids came in
07:06 and people were blown away with this movie.
07:10 I want to recommend that you get a copy of this--Yeah.
07:12 And check it out, because that message,
07:15 the spiritual part isn't there
07:17 but the physical part, the diet part,
07:19 the exercise part, all the other parts
07:21 that Dr. Marcum talks about on this program
07:23 are right there in the movie "Forks Over Knives."
07:25 Check it out, play it for your church.
07:26 I recommend that you do it.
07:28 But what a great way to reach the world. Absolutely.
07:29 What a great way into-- let me understand,
07:31 there is a God that has the plan
07:33 that works for us can get us healthy again.
07:34 You mean, we need to have a health message
07:37 as our evangelistic message in our church?
07:39 Well, in every-- What a concept.
07:41 Yeah, in every church just think about it, Charles.
07:43 You know, when Christ came,
07:45 you know, he knew he was having a sick and dying world,
07:47 then they didn't have the problems
07:49 that we have and throughout the world
07:50 there's different types of problems.
07:51 You know, we talked a little bit
07:53 about some of the ones in North America,
07:54 but we also have in countries, we have bad infections.
07:57 We have parricides. We have problems with water.
07:59 We have other medical issues.
08:01 And yet, here we have some solutions to all these problems
08:05 and once people come and if there is a heal,
08:08 the next step is introducing to a relationship with the person,
08:11 the great physician that come up with this
08:12 and let the Holy Spirit take charge of our life.
08:15 This was the sort of prescription
08:16 that was given to us way back in the New Testament.
08:19 We need to get back to that and as the world sees this
08:21 and starts getting healthier,
08:22 they're gonna feel the power of the Holy Spirit.
08:24 They're gonna tell their friend
08:25 "Listen, I know this great physician
08:27 that wants to heal me, make everything better.
08:29 And He's gonna come again and He's gonna take care of us,
08:31 and He's gonna take away all these problems we have.
08:33 Don't you want to know I'm here?
08:35 Here, it says here if you believe in Him,
08:37 you can have everlasting life.
08:39 And here's how you do it. It's not hard.
08:41 You just, you know, pray and we can develop this.
08:43 This is a great way to reach people with the gospel.
08:47 I like that. I got all excited. I'm sorry.
08:49 I love it--I love it. We were gonna answer a question.
08:50 When you get on the soapboxes, I just love that.
08:51 I know I got excited about this.
08:53 I'm reminded of Christ, when He would go into a village,
08:54 what did He do? Did he hold an evangelistic meeting?
08:56 No, He healed people. Right.
08:58 He spent His time healing people.
09:01 We're told that when he would leave the village,
09:02 there would not be one sick person there.
09:04 Wouldn't that be a nice way of a preaching God,
09:08 bringing the message of the soon
09:11 coming Savior to a village or to a town,
09:13 is to come in there and just make sure
09:15 that you give the information so that when you leave,
09:17 there would not be any sick people there.
09:18 Wouldn't that be wonderful?
09:20 Yeah, and that's, you know, you know,
09:21 that's what we're trying to do with this program
09:23 is bring people knowledge that can help heal them
09:25 through the power of the ultimate physician.
09:26 All right, very good. Let's go to a question here.
09:27 I'm excited, I'm excited about this. Okay.
09:29 You were getting me depressed, but now I'm really excited.
09:30 Go ahead, go ahead. I wish I knew a joke.
09:32 All right. "How do I know if I have diabetes?"
09:36 And this person says, "I'm a little overweight."
09:38 Yeah, that's a great question.
09:40 'Cause if you have diabetes, you want to,
09:42 you know, get treatment right away.
09:43 And we're gonna talk a lot about--
09:45 next program about the different types of treatment
09:48 both modern medicine treatment and lifestyle change treatment,
09:52 but you know basically by getting
09:54 your blood sugar checked.
09:55 And I want to go over those numbers again.
09:57 If your blood sugar is greater than 125 twice in North America
10:02 or in other countries 6 millimoles,
10:04 you have diabetes.
10:05 And the doctor would know what those numbers mean--
10:07 Yes, if you have one high number, you have diabetes.
10:09 We talked about the hemoglobin A1c.
10:10 If it's greater than 7.5, you have diabetes.
10:13 So if you have diabetes,
10:15 then hopefully your awareness will go up a lot
10:18 and you'll start making the treatment changes
10:20 that need to be to get diabetes back into attack.
10:23 And we're gonna talk those about in the next program,
10:25 so I want everyone to stay with us
10:26 'cause we're gonna talk about the different treatments,
10:28 the pros and cons of both modern medicine and,
10:31 you know, the pros of lifestyle medicine.
10:33 And this next question concerns me
10:35 just a little bit, Dr. Marcum.
10:36 This person says, "What happens
10:37 if diabetes goes untreated?"
10:39 My doctor says I may have-- actually it says
10:42 "I have diabetes, but I have done nothing about it."
10:46 Are we playing with a rattlesnake here?
10:48 Yes, you are. If diabetes goes untreated--
10:51 you know, we talked about glucose metabolism.
10:53 Yeah. The glucose can't get into the cell, okay.
10:57 We have too much fat around.
10:59 We make a lot of extra insulin,
11:02 extra insulin's floating around the body
11:04 damaging the endothelium.
11:06 If this happens untreated,
11:08 you might be one of those persons that become blind.
11:10 You might be one that's on dialysis.
11:12 You might lose a foot
11:14 from a chronic infection from a neuropathy.
11:17 You might have heart disease sooner than you should
11:20 and develop a heart attack and die from that.
11:22 You might have a lot of complications
11:24 and other problems if it's untreated.
11:26 Now the treatment that is what's
11:29 gonna be very interesting.
11:30 Modern medicine says, let's treat with medicines first.
11:33 I'm gonna say in the next program
11:35 that may be we should look at some other things
11:37 to change our chemistry other than that.
11:39 All right, very good.
11:41 So if you leave your doctor's office
11:43 and the doctor has said, "You have type 2 diabetes,"
11:47 you need to know where to find the answers
11:48 because this disease is reversible and it is curable.
11:52 And we'll learn more about that on our next program,
11:54 but stay tuned. When we come back,
11:55 let's talk to the master physician.
11:57 Stay tuned.
12:01 Diabetes is definitely on the rise.
12:05 I see patients every day with damages from diabetes
12:08 whether it be the eyes or the kidneys
12:10 or the heart or even in older people losing their legs.
12:14 This is a terrible disease to have.
12:17 And if you have diabetics,
12:18 I want you to start thinking about,
12:20 you know, ways to reverse it.
12:21 We're gonna talk in our next program about the ways,
12:23 if you have type 2 diabetes,
12:25 that you can possibly be cured of this disease.
12:28 That's sort of exciting.
12:30 And I know these subjects are very serious
12:31 but one of the things I want to say
12:33 is we have an ultimate physician
12:35 that brings us great joy and love in our life.
12:37 And though someone out there
12:39 might be having a serious medical problem,
12:41 let just bow our heads in prayer
12:42 and ask the ultimate physician
12:44 to schedule their appointment with us.
12:45 What do you say? Let's bow our heads.
12:48 Dear, Heavenly Father,
12:49 we recognize you as the ultimate physician,
12:51 the ultimate source of healing in our lives
12:53 and we want to invite each one of the listeners
12:56 and viewers out there to come to you
12:58 and make an appointment to be with you in your office.
13:01 To get the prescriptions and the healing
13:03 that only you can give, Father.
13:04 We want to pray for this
13:06 and help someone to come to your altar today,
13:08 Father, and we just thank you for giving us such love
13:11 and hope in our lives is our prayer, amen.
13:15 There is hope. There's always hope.
13:17 There's always a place for healing.
13:20 Some people out there I get letters at our website
13:23 and I realize that they're not feeling well.
13:26 The world is bombarded with sickness and illness.
13:29 But there is hope and that hope
13:30 is in that relationship with the ultimate physician.
13:33 I want you to really stay with us
13:34 'cause next time we're gonna talk about the ways
13:37 that we can reverse type 2 diabetics
13:40 and hopefully curing you.
13:41 So you don't have to take a lot of medications.
13:44 Stay with us and join us next week
13:45 and thanks for joining us on the "Ultimate Prescription."


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