Participants: James Marcum & Charles Mills
Series Code: UP
Program Code: UP00022B
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00:01 Welcome back to the program, I'm Charles Mills.
00:03 We're here with Dr. James Marcum. 00:04 We're talking about cancer today. 00:07 Cancer, a very serious subject. 00:08 And Dr. Marcum, you've identified 00:10 that prolonged exposure to toxins in the air 00:14 is causing our lung cancer. 00:15 Prolonged exposure to a diet 00:17 that was not originally designed for us 00:20 by the creator and that's an animal-based diet 00:22 is responsible for much of the colon cancer. 00:25 Let's move on now to another killer in the cancer area 00:30 and what are we prolonged exposure on this one? 00:32 Yeah, and you know, before I talk about breast cancer, 00:36 that's a big serious issue. 00:38 I want the audience again 00:39 to think about things little bit. 00:40 Now a lot of cancer focus here in our country now 00:44 and in the world is focus on treatment. 00:46 Yes. You know, which chemotherapy or you know, 00:49 having a mammogram done early. 00:51 It's not talking about what's causing the problem. 00:54 Those are band-aids. Those are--Yes. 00:55 Yeah, they are wrong end of this thing. 00:57 And we talked about all the caused of death 00:59 and we've all unfortunately focused on health programs. 01:01 We've focused a little bit too much on the technology. Yes. 01:05 It's--but I want to get people back 01:07 to what the master physician says 01:09 and when we think about that, we have to think about 01:11 the original plan and what are we doing 01:13 that goes against the original plan. 01:15 And prolonged exposures, we talked about 01:18 for instance the lungs, the cigarettes, even in kids. 01:21 We talked about the colon, the carcinogens especially 01:24 from a meat diet and now breast cancer. 01:27 And breast cancer is scary because 01:29 one in eight women will develop breast cancer. 01:33 And we think, well, what is 01:34 the prolonged exposure in breast cancer? 01:37 Well, every time, you know, we do a biopsy, you know, 01:40 and we find a breast cancer, the first thing we look at 01:42 under the microscope is whether they have estrogen receptors, 01:46 whether it's estrogen positive or not. Mm-hmm. 01:48 'Cause that sets up our treatment for to, 01:51 you know, kill these cancer cells. 01:54 But the real problem in cancer 01:56 is prolonged exposure to estrogens. 02:01 And let's think about that. 02:02 Where do we get estrogens from? 02:05 Well, one of the things we get estrogen 02:06 from is being overweight. 02:09 The conversion to estrogen happens in the fat tissue. 02:13 So the studies are very conclusive 02:15 that the more weight a woman carries, 02:17 the higher the risk 02:19 of her developing a cancer of the breast. 02:21 Because she's making more estrogen. Yes. Okay. 02:23 More estrogen, so the more estrogen, 02:25 the more chance of treating cancer. 02:27 So it doesn't surprise me 02:29 if we think about the rates of cancer catching up 02:31 with heart disease and we're talking about awareness. 02:34 It does not surprise me that we are having 02:36 higher rates of cancer because we are 60% overweight now, 02:40 one third in the United States obese now 02:42 and unfortunately that's going around the world. 02:44 And yet around the world where we don't see obese people, 02:47 the rates of breast cancer are much lower. 02:50 Now if we think about, you know, there are some studies on women, 02:54 you know, on women runners specifically. 02:56 They run a lot. They don't have extra fat 02:59 and when they get their body fat 03:01 less than 12%, their periods stop. 03:04 Their periods stop because their estrogen levels go down. 03:06 So they don't have enough fat to convert to estrogen. 03:09 So we know that, you know, fat and estrogen raises 03:13 the risk of cancer and so one of the treatments 03:16 for prevention and treating cancer 03:18 is to get down to an ideal body weight. 03:21 Now another trigger, another prolonged exposure, 03:24 I think you've identified and that's prolonged exposure 03:27 to specifically protein. Yeah. 03:30 Two or three hundred years ago, the term menarche, 03:33 that's when a woman becomes, you know, 03:35 starts making estrogen, it was about 17 years of age. 03:40 Now women are having their periods 11 and 12 years old. 03:45 So they have a much longer exposure 03:48 to estrogen throughout a lifetime. 03:51 And if we look back at our diets, okay, 03:54 our diets way back then weren't as high 03:56 in protein as they are now. 03:58 So now we take a large protein load 04:01 predominantly in animal-based products. 04:05 You know, that's where most of the protein 04:06 comes from that hurts us. Yes. 04:08 Not the healthy proteins, but the damaging proteins. 04:11 So these high meat diets, 04:12 our girls are having periods at much younger age. 04:16 They're exposed to estrogen for a much longer period of time 04:19 and it's no surprising 04:20 that breast cancer rates continue to soar. 04:23 So we've talked about prolonged exposure. 04:25 So prolonged exposure to estrogen, 04:28 prolonged exposure to extra weight, 04:30 prolonged exposure to an animal-based diet 04:32 full of protein increases the risk of breast cancer in women 04:37 and it also if you had breast cancer, 04:39 it raises the risk of it recurring. 04:41 So that's just amazing. 04:43 Now remember the original design wasn't for us 04:46 to be exposed long term to estrogen, 04:48 wasn't designed for us to be exposed 04:51 to these high protein diets 04:53 which predominantly is in a meat-based diet. 04:55 So the cornerstone of treatment for any type of cancer 05:01 just like any type of heart disease 05:02 is figuring out the cause. 05:04 The stress is on the system, 05:05 the prolonged exposures of stress 05:07 that goes against the owner manual. 05:09 The prolonged exposure to estrogen, 05:11 the prolonged exposure to cigarettes damages our cells, 05:15 we weren't made to design. 05:16 Now we're spending a lot of time 05:17 and money looking at the genetics of it saying, 05:20 "Oh, you have cells that are predisposed to cancer." 05:24 And that may be true. Well, that may be true. 05:26 Yeah. But we might all have those. 05:27 Yes. You know, we know that men carry prostate cancer 05:30 and prostate cancer in men is very similar 05:33 to breast cancer in women. 05:35 In fact, we know that men that carry extra weight 05:39 become estrogenic as well. Yes. 05:41 And that raises the risk of almost all cancers. 05:44 So carrying extra weight raises the risk of cancer. 05:47 Now talking about how to get 05:49 that weight off is another whole subject. 05:51 But men, they complain of the libido, you know. 05:55 And the first thing, I say, "Well, lose some weight, 05:57 maybe you have too much estrogen in the body." 06:00 So the real solution to some men isn't necessarily 06:03 to take Viagra, it's to--may be 06:05 to lose some weight so their estrogen levels go down 06:08 so their impotence improves. 06:11 So prolonged exposure over long periods of time, 06:15 doing things against the owner's manual 06:17 triggers these diseases, which are killing us. 06:20 And in every situation we talked about in this series, 06:23 we're gonna find that sort of the underlying thing. 06:26 Prolonged exposures against the owner manual, 06:28 it triggers the need for modern medicine 06:30 which really doesn't fix the problem. 06:32 Now what we're gonna add to the mix 06:34 is we're gonna add a solution. Yes. 06:36 How do I break away from these prolonged exposures? 06:38 We want education, but we also want a higher power 06:41 to come into our lives to reveal this 06:43 and give us the power to change. 06:45 But let's get some questions here. 06:47 Oh, my, that is amazing. 06:49 It is pretty scary to think that the causes 06:53 of our problems are so controllable by us. 06:56 We don't have to have it. 06:57 I heard someone once say that, 07:00 "Genetics is the gun, but lifestyle 07:02 is the one that pulls the trigger." Yeah. 07:03 So we may have this loaded gun-- That's great. 07:05 but lifestyle pulls the trigger. But, you know, 07:06 and also you look at all the marketing in the media. 07:09 Oh, my. You know, you see all these, 07:10 "This substance is good for you." Yes. 07:12 Or this lobbyist saying, 07:14 "This is the way you have to be." 07:16 Well, it's not working. Yes. 07:18 You know, we're getting sicker. 07:19 The rates of cancer are going up. 07:21 We have a problem here. Yes. 07:23 We're not getting at the core of the problem. 07:24 So the real solution to the health dilemma 07:27 is talking about the things we're doing, 07:29 raising the awareness, coming up with better ways 07:32 to prevent this so we don't have to treat these disasters. 07:35 Oh, my. Well, we're gonna find out how to do that. 07:38 We don't want to leave you wondering here, listener. 07:40 We're gonna show you how to do that 07:42 and we'll do that by looking at some of these questions here. 07:45 These are from heartwiseministries.org 07:47 and, Dr. Marcum, here's a question. 07:49 "My Doctor said I have a suspicious mass on my kidneys. 07:53 How is cancer diagnosed?" 07:55 I think she's worried about 07:56 whether this may be a cancer here. 07:58 Yeah, well, you know, cancer are cells that grow-- 08:02 normal cells that grow quickly. 08:05 They turn on and they just grow over and over and over. 08:07 So these are normal cells in the body. 08:09 They just replicate faster than they should. 08:11 And it usually creates a mass. 08:14 The problem with cancer is it's an evil type of disease. Yes. 08:17 It steals nutrients from the body. 08:19 So people with advanced cancer, they lose a lot of weight. 08:23 It also steals blood from other parts 08:26 and they call that angiogenesis. 08:27 It gets its own blood supply. 08:29 Another thing that cancer does, it's not so good, 08:31 is it invades other organs as it gets bigger, 08:34 so the organ doesn't work well. 08:36 So in a kidney, for instance, 08:38 it might be that they found out about this 08:39 because the kidney wasn't working well 08:42 and maybe a little bit of blood come out in the urine. 08:44 Or maybe the person had a chest-- 08:46 a pain back there or came-- they would normally do 08:48 an ultrasound and see a suspicious mass. Yes. 08:51 Now suspicious mass can be other things, 08:54 but if it's cancer, you want to know about it 08:56 'cause there's some modern medicine 08:57 that we're gonna talk about in the next program 08:59 that we can deal with this very, very well, 09:02 at least, you know, dealing with the problem. 09:04 Now we want to go back and think about again, 09:06 what was the prolonged exposure that might have caused this? 09:09 But now is not the time to do that. 09:11 Now is the time we got a problem, 09:12 let's take care of it. 09:14 Now is the time for modern medicine. 09:15 Well, the best way to look at this, 09:17 then may be we make a diagnosis is a biopsy. 09:20 And we take a piece of tissue 09:22 and we look at it under a microscope 09:24 and we see whether it's cancer or not. 09:26 And depending on what type of tissue it is, 09:29 it might be benign. 09:31 It might be something like a cyst. 09:33 It might be something more serious like cancer. 09:35 It might be an infection. 09:37 It could be other things as well. 09:39 We look at it in the microscope and then make a diagnosis. 09:41 Now some people do not like to have a needle biopsy. 09:44 And if you don't do a needle biopsy, 09:46 they can do an open biopsy. 09:47 That's where we actually cut open 09:49 and you look at the piece of tissue, 09:50 take it out, deal with it. 09:52 Sometimes that works well 'cause if it is malignant, 09:55 we can know right during the surgery. Yes. 09:56 We can take it out and resect it 09:58 and make sure it hasn't spread. 10:01 Sometimes if a person doesn't want to have that done 10:03 and wants to be very noninvasive, 10:05 we have a scan called a PET scan 10:07 and that's positron electro tomography 10:11 and we take pictures of that cell 10:13 to see if it's metabolically active. 10:15 If it's cancer, the cells are gonna be doing things. 10:17 They're gonna be multiplying, angiogenesis, stealing tissue 10:20 and it's gonna be metabolically active. 10:22 We can see that on a PET scan. 10:24 And if we saw that we'll say, "Wow, this is active." 10:26 We need to, you know, really talk a little bit 10:28 more seriously about invasive treatment 10:30 for this acute care problem. 10:32 And if it's not doing anything, sometimes we can just 10:35 keep an eye on it to see if it changes overtime, 10:37 repeat a scan if it's not metabolically active 10:39 and make sure it's not growing away. 10:41 That would be least invasive 10:43 'cause you don't have the risk of surgery. 10:45 Boy, how important it is-- 10:46 that we get back to that source 10:47 and find out what in the world is going on with us. 10:49 Okay, here's another question here 10:51 from heartwiseministries.org website. 10:52 "When would a person use radiation versus chemotherapy? 10:56 My doctor wants to use both on me." 10:59 Oh, dear. Yeah. 11:00 And it's interesting how I see the questions 11:04 that come in through our website, 11:05 the questions are focusing on treatment rather than prevention 11:09 and dealing with the cause of the problem. 11:11 And that's because we haven't focused as medical professionals 11:15 about some of the things we've talked about earlier today. 11:17 Now these people are afraid. Yes. 11:19 They have a-- Yes. 11:20 Is there a prevention at this point 11:22 that they need to know about? 11:23 Well, there's always things that they-- 11:24 all the things we've talked about, 11:26 about exposures can help because you know, 11:28 help prevent, you know, we know if there's one cancer, 11:30 there can be another cancer. Yeah. 11:31 So all this is-- the things 11:32 we talked about preventing these exposures 11:34 is gonna help other types of cancers 11:35 in addition to this damage. 11:37 Even if you have cancer? 11:38 Even if you have, all these things are gonna help 11:40 both in preventing it and treating it. Okay. 11:42 Whether it be estrogen or prolonged, you know, diet-- 11:44 Yeah. All these things are gonna help. 11:46 But getting back to this question 11:48 is some cancers that the chemotherapy, 11:51 if it's spread throughout the body, 11:53 the chemotherapy tries to kill it. 11:55 Yes. And kills it. 11:56 And radiation can sometimes zap it if it's localized. 11:59 And sometimes a cancer is aggressive and you need both. 12:03 And sometimes if it spreads so often, 12:05 you know, sometimes a treatment is to do both, 12:08 but sometimes the treatment is also dangerous. Yes. 12:11 So you have to talk very carefully 12:12 about the risk and benefits of chemo 12:15 and radiation on the entire system. 12:17 And normally a lot of times, we do chemo just to make sure. 12:21 You know, if it's spread somewhere, 12:22 we want to make sure we get rid of it permanently. 12:25 But I want us to focus not so much 12:27 on the acute care symptoms, 12:28 but also the cause of it. 12:30 Well, why is the rates rising? 12:32 Well, if the rates continue to rise, 12:34 we're gonna continue to do chemo and radiation, 12:36 but it doesn't make sense to me, Charles, 12:37 'cause it really doesn't get at the cause. Yes. 12:40 We treat a symptom. Now sometimes, 12:41 we can cure cancer if it's not advanced. 12:43 That's why we also want to talk about early detections. 12:46 So we're gonna talk about that in our next program. 12:48 Absolutely. We'll take a short break now 12:50 and when we come back, 12:51 let's talk to the master physician, 12:52 the great physician about this topic. Stay tuned. 12:58 We've been talking about cancer today 13:00 and I hope I've given you at least a small framework 13:03 to think about it and the problem 13:05 is prolonged exposure to toxins. 13:08 We also want to think about the original design 13:10 that God made us to live and when we vary from this, 13:13 it causes the disease. 13:15 And, of course, cancer scares people. 13:17 The rate has been going up because we haven't really got 13:20 these toxins out of our environment. 13:22 We want to increase awareness. 13:25 I'm gonna say a short prayer for us right now 13:27 that God will come into your life 13:29 and help you be aware of maybe toxins you're taking 13:31 or things you're doing in your life 13:33 that He can help you makesome changes. 13:35 Father God, we want to invite You into our lives 13:38 to help us to change things that we need to and give us 13:41 the power to avoid these prolonged exposures 13:44 and get back to your original plan, 13:45 is our prayer. Amen. 13:49 Well, in our next program, we're gonna specifically talk 13:53 about ways to prevent cancer and we're gonna continue 13:56 our discussions on acute care treatment 13:59 because there is a place for modern medicine 14:01 in treatment for cancer. 14:03 And join us next time. |
Revised 2014-12-17