Welcome back to the
program, I'm Charles Mills.
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We're here with
Dr. James Marcum.
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We're talking
about cancer today.
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Cancer, a very serious subject.
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And Dr. Marcum,
you've identified
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that prolonged
exposure to toxins in the air
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is causing our lung cancer.
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Prolonged exposure to a diet
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that was not
originally designed for us
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by the creator and
that's an animal-based diet
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is responsible for
much of the colon cancer.
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Let's move on now to another
killer in the cancer area
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and what are we
prolonged exposure on this one?
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Yeah, and you know, before
I talk about breast cancer,
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that's a big serious issue.
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I want the audience again
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to think about
things little bit.
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Now a lot of cancer
focus here in our country now
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and in the world
is focus on treatment.
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Yes. You know, which
chemotherapy or you know,
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having a mammogram done early.
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It's not talking about
what's causing the problem.
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Those are
band-aids. Those are--Yes.
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Yeah, they are
wrong end of this thing.
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And we talked about
all the caused of death
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and we've all unfortunately
focused on health programs.
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We've focused a little bit
too much on the technology. Yes.
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It's--but I want
to get people back
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to what the
master physician says
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and when we think about
that, we have to think about
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the original plan
and what are we doing
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that goes against
the original plan.
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And prolonged
exposures, we talked about
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for instance the lungs,
the cigarettes, even in kids.
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We talked about the colon,
the carcinogens especially
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from a meat diet
and now breast cancer.
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And breast
cancer is scary because
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one in eight women
will develop breast cancer.
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And we think, well, what is
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the prolonged
exposure in breast cancer?
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Well, every time, you
know, we do a biopsy, you know,
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and we find a breast cancer,
the first thing we look at
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under the microscope is whether
they have estrogen receptors,
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whether it's estrogen
positive or not. Mm-hmm.
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'Cause that sets up
our treatment for to,
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you know, kill
these cancer cells.
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But the real problem in cancer
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is prolonged
exposure to estrogens.
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And let's think about that.
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Where do we get estrogens from?
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Well, one of the
things we get estrogen
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from is being overweight.
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The conversion to estrogen
happens in the fat tissue.
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So the studies
are very conclusive
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that the more
weight a woman carries,
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the higher the risk
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of her developing a
cancer of the breast.
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Because she's making
more estrogen. Yes. Okay.
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More estrogen, so
the more estrogen,
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the more chance
of treating cancer.
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So it doesn't surprise me
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if we think about the
rates of cancer catching up
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with heart disease and
we're talking about awareness.
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It does not surprise
me that we are having
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higher rates of cancer because
we are 60% overweight now,
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one third in the
United States obese now
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and unfortunately
that's going around the world.
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And yet around the world
where we don't see obese people,
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the rates of breast
cancer are much lower.
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Now if we think about, you know,
there are some studies on women,
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you know, on women
runners specifically.
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They run a lot.
They don't have extra fat
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and when they get their body fat
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less than 12%,
their periods stop.
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Their periods stop because
their estrogen levels go down.
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So they don't have enough
fat to convert to estrogen.
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So we know that, you
know, fat and estrogen raises
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the risk of cancer and
so one of the treatments
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for prevention
and treating cancer
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is to get down to
an ideal body weight.
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Now another trigger,
another prolonged exposure,
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I think you've identified
and that's prolonged exposure
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to specifically protein. Yeah.
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Two or three hundred
years ago, the term menarche,
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that's when a
woman becomes, you know,
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starts making estrogen,
it was about 17 years of age.
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Now women are having their
periods 11 and 12 years old.
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So they have a
much longer exposure
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to estrogen
throughout a lifetime.
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And if we look
back at our diets, okay,
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our diets way back
then weren't as high
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in protein as they are now.
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So now we take a
large protein load
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predominantly in
animal-based products.
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You know, that's
where most of the protein
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comes from that hurts us. Yes.
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Not the healthy proteins,
but the damaging proteins.
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So these high meat diets,
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our girls are having
periods at much younger age.
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They're exposed to estrogen
for a much longer period of time
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and it's no surprising
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that breast cancer
rates continue to soar.
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So we've talked
about prolonged exposure.
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So prolonged
exposure to estrogen,
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prolonged
exposure to extra weight,
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prolonged exposure
to an animal-based diet
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full of protein increases the
risk of breast cancer in women
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and it also if
you had breast cancer,
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it raises the
risk of it recurring.
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So that's just amazing.
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Now remember the
original design wasn't for us
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to be exposed
long term to estrogen,
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wasn't designed
for us to be exposed
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to these high protein diets
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which predominantly
is in a meat-based diet.
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So the cornerstone of
treatment for any type of cancer
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just like any
type of heart disease
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is figuring out the cause.
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The stress is on the system,
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the prolonged
exposures of stress
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that goes
against the owner manual.
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The prolonged
exposure to estrogen,
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the prolonged exposure to
cigarettes damages our cells,
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we weren't made to design.
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Now we're spending a lot of time
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and money looking at
the genetics of it saying,
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"Oh, you have cells that
are predisposed to cancer."
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And that may be true.
Well, that may be true.
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Yeah. But we
might all have those.
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Yes. You know, we know
that men carry prostate cancer
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and prostate cancer
in men is very similar
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to breast cancer in women.
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In fact, we know that
men that carry extra weight
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become estrogenic as well. Yes.
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And that raises the
risk of almost all cancers.
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So carrying extra weight
raises the risk of cancer.
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Now talking about how to get
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that weight off is
another whole subject.
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But men, they complain
of the libido, you know.
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And the first thing, I
say, "Well, lose some weight,
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maybe you have too
much estrogen in the body."
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So the real solution to
some men isn't necessarily
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to take Viagra, it's to--may be
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to lose some weight so
their estrogen levels go down
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so their impotence improves.
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So prolonged exposure
over long periods of time,
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doing things
against the owner's manual
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triggers these
diseases, which are killing us.
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And in every situation we
talked about in this series,
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we're gonna find that
sort of the underlying thing.
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Prolonged exposures
against the owner manual,
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it triggers the
need for modern medicine
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which really
doesn't fix the problem.
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Now what we're
gonna add to the mix
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is we're gonna
add a solution. Yes.
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How do I break away from
these prolonged exposures?
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We want education, but
we also want a higher power
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to come into our
lives to reveal this
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and give us the power to change.
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But let's get
some questions here.
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Oh, my, that is amazing.
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It is pretty scary
to think that the causes
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of our problems are
so controllable by us.
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We don't have to have it.
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I heard someone once say that,
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"Genetics is the
gun, but lifestyle
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is the one that
pulls the trigger." Yeah.
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So we may have this
loaded gun-- That's great.
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but lifestyle pulls
the trigger. But, you know,
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and also you look at all
the marketing in the media.
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Oh, my. You know,
you see all these,
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"This substance is
good for you." Yes.
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Or this lobbyist saying,
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"This is the
way you have to be."
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Well, it's not working. Yes.
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You know, we're getting sicker.
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The rates of
cancer are going up.
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We have a problem here. Yes.
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We're not getting at
the core of the problem.
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So the real solution
to the health dilemma
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is talking about
the things we're doing,
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raising the awareness,
coming up with better ways
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to prevent this so we don't
have to treat these disasters.
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Oh, my. Well, we're
gonna find out how to do that.
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We don't want to leave
you wondering here, listener.
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We're gonna show
you how to do that
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and we'll do that by looking
at some of these questions here.
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These are from
heartwiseministries.org
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and, Dr. Marcum,
here's a question.
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"My Doctor said I have a
suspicious mass on my kidneys.
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How is cancer diagnosed?"
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I think she's worried about
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whether this may
be a cancer here.
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Yeah, well, you know,
cancer are cells that grow--
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normal cells that grow quickly.
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They turn on and they just
grow over and over and over.
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So these are
normal cells in the body.
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They just replicate
faster than they should.
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And it usually creates a mass.
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The problem with cancer is it's
an evil type of disease. Yes.
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It steals
nutrients from the body.
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So people with advanced cancer,
they lose a lot of weight.
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It also steals
blood from other parts
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and they call that angiogenesis.
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It gets its own blood supply.
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Another thing that
cancer does, it's not so good,
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is it invades other
organs as it gets bigger,
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so the organ doesn't work well.
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So in a kidney, for instance,
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it might be that
they found out about this
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because the kidney
wasn't working well
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and maybe a little bit of
blood come out in the urine.
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Or maybe the
person had a chest--
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a pain back there or
came-- they would normally do
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an ultrasound and see
a suspicious mass. Yes.
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Now suspicious mass
can be other things,
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but if it's cancer,
you want to know about it
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'cause there's
some modern medicine
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that we're gonna talk
about in the next program
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that we can deal
with this very, very well,
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at least, you know,
dealing with the problem.
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Now we want to go
back and think about again,
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what was the prolonged exposure
that might have caused this?
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But now is not
the time to do that.
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Now is the time
we got a problem,
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let's take care of it.
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Now is the time
for modern medicine.
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Well, the best
way to look at this,
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then may be we make a
diagnosis is a biopsy.
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And we take a piece of tissue
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and we look at it
under a microscope
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and we see whether
it's cancer or not.
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And depending on
what type of tissue it is,
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it might be benign.
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It might be
something like a cyst.
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It might be something
more serious like cancer.
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It might be an infection.
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It could be
other things as well.
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We look at it in the microscope
and then make a diagnosis.
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Now some people do not
like to have a needle biopsy.
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And if you don't
do a needle biopsy,
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they can do an open biopsy.
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That's where we
actually cut open
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and you look at
the piece of tissue,
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take it out, deal with it.
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Sometimes that works well
'cause if it is malignant,
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we can know right
during the surgery. Yes.
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We can take it out and resect it
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and make sure it hasn't spread.
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Sometimes if a person
doesn't want to have that done
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and wants to be
very noninvasive,
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we have a scan called a PET scan
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and that's
positron electro tomography
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and we take
pictures of that cell
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to see if it's
metabolically active.
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If it's cancer, the cells
are gonna be doing things.
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They're gonna be multiplying,
angiogenesis, stealing tissue
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and it's gonna be
metabolically active.
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We can see that on a PET scan.
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And if we saw that we'll
say, "Wow, this is active."
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We need to, you know,
really talk a little bit
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more seriously
about invasive treatment
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for this acute care problem.
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And if it's not doing
anything, sometimes we can just
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keep an eye on it to
see if it changes overtime,
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repeat a scan if it's
not metabolically active
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and make sure
it's not growing away.
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That would be least invasive
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'cause you don't
have the risk of surgery.
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Boy, how important it is--
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that we get back to that source
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and find out what in the
world is going on with us.
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Okay, here's
another question here
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from
heartwiseministries.org website.
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"When would a person use
radiation versus chemotherapy?
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My doctor wants
to use both on me."
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Oh, dear. Yeah.
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And it's interesting
how I see the questions
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that come in
through our website,
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the questions are focusing on
treatment rather than prevention
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and dealing with the
cause of the problem.
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And that's because we haven't
focused as medical professionals
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about some of the things we've
talked about earlier today.
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Now these
people are afraid. Yes.
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They have a-- Yes.
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Is there a
prevention at this point
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that they need to know about?
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Well, there's
always things that they--
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all the things
we've talked about,
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about exposures can
help because you know,
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help prevent, you know, we
know if there's one cancer,
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there can be
another cancer. Yeah.
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So all this is-- the things
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we talked about
preventing these exposures
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is gonna help
other types of cancers
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in addition to this damage.
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Even if you have cancer?
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Even if you have, all
these things are gonna help
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both in preventing it
and treating it. Okay.
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Whether it be estrogen or
prolonged, you know, diet--
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Yeah. All these
things are gonna help.
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But getting
back to this question
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is some cancers
that the chemotherapy,
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if it's spread
throughout the body,
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the chemotherapy
tries to kill it.
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Yes. And kills it.
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And radiation can sometimes
zap it if it's localized.
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And sometimes a cancer is
aggressive and you need both.
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And sometimes if
it spreads so often,
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you know, sometimes a
treatment is to do both,
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but sometimes the treatment
is also dangerous. Yes.
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So you have to
talk very carefully
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about the risk
and benefits of chemo
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and radiation on
the entire system.
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And normally a lot of times,
we do chemo just to make sure.
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You know, if
it's spread somewhere,
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we want to make sure we
get rid of it permanently.
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But I want us to
focus not so much
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on the acute care symptoms,
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but also the cause of it.
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Well, why is the rates rising?
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Well, if the
rates continue to rise,
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we're gonna continue
to do chemo and radiation,
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but it doesn't make
sense to me, Charles,
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'cause it really
doesn't get at the cause. Yes.
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We treat a
symptom. Now sometimes,
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we can cure cancer
if it's not advanced.
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That's why we also want to
talk about early detections.
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So we're gonna talk
about that in our next program.
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Absolutely. We'll
take a short break now
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and when we come back,
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let's talk to
the master physician,
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the great physician
about this topic. Stay tuned.
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We've been
talking about cancer today
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and I hope I've given you
at least a small framework
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to think about
it and the problem
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is prolonged exposure to toxins.
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We also want to think
about the original design
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that God made us to live
and when we vary from this,
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it causes the disease.
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And, of course,
cancer scares people.
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The rate has been going up
because we haven't really got
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these toxins out
of our environment.
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We want to increase awareness.
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I'm gonna say a short
prayer for us right now
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that God will
come into your life
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and help you be aware of
maybe toxins you're taking
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or things you're
doing in your life
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that He can help
you makesome changes.
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Father God, we want to
invite You into our lives
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to help us to change things
that we need to and give us
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the power to avoid
these prolonged exposures
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and get back to
your original plan,
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is our prayer. Amen.
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Well, in our next program,
we're gonna specifically talk
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about ways to prevent
cancer and we're gonna continue
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our discussions on
acute care treatment
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because there is a
place for modern medicine
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in treatment for cancer.
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And join us next time.
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