Participants: James Marcum & Charles Mills
Series Code: UP
Program Code: UP00012B
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00:01 Welcome back to 'Ultimate Prescription'.
00:03 I'm Charles Mills. 00:04 We're here with Dr. James Marcum. 00:06 And Dr. Marcum, we've been talking about finding truth. 00:09 Do you have some resources available to us 00:11 that can help us do that? 00:12 Yeah, I do, and I want to invite 00:13 those that might be viewing today 00:14 to go at our website that's heartwiseministries.org. 00:19 And on that site you can leave your question. 00:21 We have a bevy of professionals that will try to answer you. 00:24 You might not be specific. 00:25 And that's actually how we create 00:27 our television program, that's right. 00:28 We see a lot of questions. 00:29 We know that these are issues we need to address. 00:32 And we bring those up 00:33 and yet we take a Biblical perspective. 00:35 Also I want to let people know about 00:37 our new evangelistic book that's called, 00:40 named after this program, "The Ultimate Prescription." 00:42 That's available by Tyndale Press. 00:45 We're hoping that this message 00:46 will go to the world and people will understand 00:48 that it's important to have that relationship 00:50 with the Heavenly Father. 00:52 And in that relationship there's real power. 00:54 It's a new way of moving evangelism forward 00:57 and let the Holy Spirit take that person where they want. 01:00 But we want to plant the seeds. 01:01 But we've got some questions that have come in. 01:03 Absolutely, let's get right to our questions 01:05 from heartwiseministries.org. 01:07 My mother-in-law says, Joe Ann in Arizona. 01:10 My mother-in-law is going to cryopreserve 01:14 her body when she passes. 01:16 Is there science behind this type of procedure? 01:18 Well, there's not Biblical science behind it. 01:21 And nowhere in the Bible though I see people 01:24 mentioning of preserving bodies. 01:26 Cryopreservation is where they sort of 01:28 put things in a deep freeze. 01:30 You know, they freeze these bodies 01:31 and believe that they can sort of bring them back. 01:33 You've seen science fiction. Yes, oh absolutely. 01:35 You know, when they go and travel in space 01:37 and things like that they can do this deep freezes. 01:39 But right now, there's no science behind it. 01:42 And that's what I mean. 01:43 There's a lot of people throwing theories out there 01:45 in this world today. 01:46 And how do you know what's true? 01:48 And some of these scientists 01:49 can make it sound very, very good and very convincing. 01:52 And I go to some lectures and I say, 01:54 "Man, that sounds like the best thing ever." 01:56 But you know, 98% truth can still be a lie. 02:00 And they throw just enough 02:01 at the end that doesn't make sense. 02:02 And so what I try to do myself is I look at the data, 02:06 I go back to the Biblical prescriptions 02:08 and I say, "Listen, there's really 02:10 nothing that talks about us being able 02:12 to save our own lives." 02:13 We learn that our lives are only saved 02:15 through for--the relationship with our Heavenly Father. 02:18 That's a real source of healing. 02:19 So I would not say that I would recommend 02:22 cryopreservation even though 02:24 a lot of people are considering it. 02:25 That's not I would want eternal life through that relationship. 02:29 I think that's a much better way--is the only way to go. 02:32 Absolutely, I would much rather wake up 02:34 seeing Christ come and looking up 02:36 for the bunch of doctors as I fall out, okay. 02:40 This is sort of related a little bit here. 02:42 This is from Lu in South Carolina. 02:45 An acquaintance at work had cardiac illness. 02:50 When she got to the hospital they put her body 02:52 in a deep freeze. 02:54 Is this recommended? 02:57 Well, yes, it actually isn't. 02:58 People that had sudden cardiac arrest, 03:01 all their organ start doing crazy things 03:03 'cause they're lack of blood pressure. 03:05 They have chemicals called free radicals 03:07 that actually hurt the body, yeah. 03:09 We know that if we can cool down the body enough 03:13 the body has changes in this physiology 03:15 actually can help it to heal 03:16 and this if free radicals aren't released. 03:18 A numerous studies have been done that shows people 03:22 that are in skiing accidents, 03:24 you know, they can go for a long time without breathing 03:27 and without having their heartbeat-- 03:29 Even under water I guess-- Even under water. 03:31 Yeah, so they say you are not dead 03:33 until you're too warm and death. 03:35 Warm and death. 03:36 So this cool seems to protect the organs 03:39 from some of these radical changes that happen to us. 03:41 So even though in the last question 03:43 I didn't recommend being, 03:45 you know, deep freezing once you're dead. 03:47 Before you've been pronounced dead, 03:48 it's something we do and it's been showing 03:50 to be very, very useful. 03:53 In his book, "Cheating Death" 03:54 Sanjay Gupta writes about this 03:56 as a sort of new place for medical technology. 03:59 And I've seen a few people, you know, that their hearts 04:02 not beat for long time, no blood to the brain 04:05 just because they got cool really, really quickly 04:08 they didn't have permanent neurologic damage. 04:10 And I think that's one of the things that scares me 04:12 the most in cardiac arrest when the heart 04:14 doesn't get blood to the brain. 04:16 In two or three minutes, all of a sudden 04:18 you can have brain damage. 04:19 But when we cool the brain down, its metabolism changes. 04:22 It seems to limit some of the damages 04:24 done from that, from that low blood pressure 04:26 until we can restore blood pressure, 04:28 and give the body a chance to heal itself. 04:30 How do you do that? 04:31 How do you cool the body and how far down do you go? 04:33 Yeah, what we have is, there are several ways to cool it. 04:35 They have IV bags that they can put around the patient. 04:39 Sometimes we could actually saline, you know, 04:42 we put cool saline into the veins as well. 04:44 Cool as in not freezing-- 04:45 No, not freezing but cool. 04:46 And then we take the temperature down to steady, 04:49 you know, and usually it's a certain temperature 04:50 we measure to and then we keep 04:52 it at that for a period of time, okay. 04:54 So this is something that it's done not--we never wanna do-- 04:58 So deep freeze may not be the right words 05:00 you're talking about, now yes, yeah. 05:01 But we cool people down 05:03 and to help their metabolism slow down. 05:05 So this is really different than the cryopreservation. 05:07 So this is actually a treatment 05:09 that's fairly common in cardiac arrest now. 05:11 All right, very good. 05:13 We're continuing answering questions here 05:15 from the heartwiseministries.org website. 05:17 Here's another one. 05:18 This is from a pastor in Missouri. 05:21 I am a pastor of a large church 05:22 and we're thinking about getting an A.I.C.D. 05:26 Are these devices difficult to handle? 05:28 What's he talking about and answer his question there? 05:31 Well, an A.I.C.D., is a device that really 05:34 can defibrillate the heart. 05:36 When the heart has major problems, 05:38 heart attacks sometimes the rhythm 05:40 becomes chaotic and unstable. 05:42 When the rhythm becomes unstable, 05:44 you don't get blood to your head and then you pass away. 05:47 And after three or four minutes without blood 05:49 to your head bad things start to happen. 05:51 All the organs need blood and oxygen. 05:53 So bad things happen everywhere, Charles. 05:55 But A.I.C.D., are devices that can quickly 05:58 bring this heart back into rhythm. 06:00 And they're not hard to operate. 06:02 You put a pad on the front and the back. 06:04 Usually some of these devices even tell you exactly 06:07 what to do, you know, insert pads, 06:09 you know, look at rhythm. 06:11 You know, I'm analyzing rhythm 06:12 and the device will do everything itself. 06:14 It makes the decision. 06:15 Yes, the device will analyze the rhythm. 06:17 All you got to do is put the pads 06:18 on and hit the go button pretty much. 06:20 All right, okay. 06:21 This is very useful, because I remember 06:23 when I practiced in Cincinnati, Ohio, 06:25 when the device first came out. 06:26 A gentleman had a heart attack in the airport. 06:29 And he passed away in the air--you know, 06:31 he literally fell over dead. 06:32 His heart wasn't beating. He wasn't breathing. 06:34 It had this dangerous heart rhythm 06:35 that the heart attack caused. 06:37 Well, they had a defibrillator on the wall. 06:38 They ran and got the defibrillator. 06:39 Within one or two minutes, they shocked the heart, 06:41 got him back into a stable rhythm 06:43 which generated a blood pressure, 06:45 gave him enough time to get to the hospital 06:47 where we put a stent in and got the acute care 06:50 situation taken care of, yeah. 06:52 So in large congregations, okay. 06:54 And you know, like in school buildings, or in stadiums, 06:57 or airport, these devices are very common, 07:00 because of all the things that saved life 07:03 early defibrillation is very important. 07:05 And we want to save lives. 07:07 Why do we wanna save lives? 07:08 So people can find out what truth is. Absolutely. 07:10 We save lives as they listen. 07:12 Now we wanna find out what caused this to happen. 07:14 Why did you have your heart attack? 07:15 And it can bring us into a discussion 07:18 about the causes of disease, the stress, 07:20 goes back to this, you know, these truths 07:23 that we've been talking about. 07:24 You know, how we can plug people 07:25 into a saving relationship with the God of love 07:27 who wants to make everything well in His time. 07:30 And now when people ought to get a second chance, 07:32 they really start even more so looking for answers. 07:35 Second chances, I like that. 07:36 Okay, here's another question 07:38 from the heartwiseministries.org website. 07:42 Confusion exists, says Sarah of North Carolina. 07:45 I get so much conflicting information regarding health, 07:48 so many different opinions. 07:49 The internet has made matters worse. 07:52 I really want to be healthy. 07:53 Should I start with my doctor, 07:55 with my chiropractor or a nutritionist? 07:58 Should I be reading government reports or blogs? 08:01 Where do you find the truth? 08:02 Yeah, and I see that everyday. 08:04 Patients will come into me and said, 08:06 "I read this on the internet. 08:07 I saw this on T.V. Or I think I need this. 08:09 Or I have made myself, I've diagnosed myself." 08:12 That's very difficult because sometimes a patient 08:15 comes to you with all this preconceived notions 08:18 and, you know, they said, "This medicine I saw on T.V. 08:19 and some doctor said fine. 08:21 Here's the medicine. 08:22 Here it is, take it go home." 08:23 You know, you know, if you were--we wanna try and go ahead. 08:26 Yeah. I take a little bit different approach. 08:28 And I say, "Listen, you know." 08:30 And I go back and I tell that story about, 08:32 you know, truth and where do you find 08:34 absolute truth in this world. 08:36 And I said, "The only place 08:37 I think you can find truth is in the Bible." 08:40 In the adventure of truth 08:42 the person that can set us free 08:43 this, you know, this relationship with God. 08:46 And I said, "Listen, why don't you start asking God 08:48 where the truth is and going back to the Bible 08:50 and seeing if what you wanna do has Biblical merit." 08:53 And then, read randomized double blinded studies. 08:56 Those are the most reliable studies we have. 08:58 Talk to your doctor or someone you trust. 09:00 Talk to people that have gone through 09:02 these situations before and get their wisdom. 09:05 Then after you get good wisdom, 09:07 read randomized double blinded studies 09:09 and after you prayed about it and look at the Bible. 09:11 Then step back and make a really good decision. 09:14 And some of these decisions are very hard. 09:17 Most people now just accept things randomly. 09:20 You know, my doctor said I needed to take it 09:22 so I'm gonna take it. 09:23 Well, is that really the best thing to do? 09:25 My doctor said, "I need surgery. 09:27 Should I have surgery?" 09:28 Well, is that the best thing to do? 09:29 And that's what my patient was going through. 09:31 He wanted to know, I mean, it wasn't that he was just, 09:34 you know, he wanted to know really 09:35 what the consequences were. 09:36 So we have to ask questions. 09:38 We have to ask the reason why. 09:39 We have to get to the source of truth, yeah. 09:41 And that's what I see. 09:42 Sometimes in medicine we don't point 09:44 to the real source of truth. 09:45 Doctors are great at treating symptoms, Charles. 09:48 But all of us out there are healers 09:50 'cause we change people's chemistry 09:52 and the things we do. 09:53 And when we point someone the truth 09:55 a better relationship with God, 09:57 a love relationship, we'd help heal that person 10:00 through the power of God and the Holy Spirit. 10:03 So all of us are healers. 10:05 You know, as I listen to you, Dr. Marcum. 10:07 You talk about this. 10:08 I can understand why some people might say, 10:10 "Well, you know, I have a sore throat. 10:13 I don't see anything here about sore throat, 10:15 or I have diabetes. 10:18 I don't see anything about diabetes. 10:20 I am overweight. 10:21 Where is the overweight chapter?" Right. 10:24 The point is that the Bible says way back there in Genesis 10:29 when you find the creation story. 10:32 The laws of health that God laid out 10:35 the fresh air, the sunshine, the exercise, 10:37 the loving relationship with Him and with others, 10:39 the caring for the animals, the good food we-- 10:43 these are in place to heal you of the problems 10:45 you have no matter what that problem 10:47 might be, chronic problem. 10:50 And also to keep you from ever getting it. 10:52 So don't look for the weight loss chapter. 10:54 Look for the how should I live chapter. 10:57 That's in Genesis. 10:58 Don't look for the, how do I get out of my diabetes? 11:00 Look for the how to live chapter. 11:02 That's in Genesis. 11:04 Don't look for the, how do I extend my life? 11:06 And how do I improve my skin? 11:09 Look for the, how to live better chapter? 11:11 That one in Genesis. 11:12 The first chapter were God goes over and over how to live. 11:18 And when we learn how to live 11:21 and when we learn the principles for living life healthily 11:24 then these issues, these problems 11:27 are no longer something we have to face. 11:29 And if we're facing them, 11:30 these same rules will bring us out of those. 11:33 And you know, Charles, 11:34 there is a place for modern medicine. 11:36 And the place that I see is in acute problems. 11:38 And modern medicine helps give us 11:40 that ability to see to look at truth-- 11:42 It gives us that second chance that we're talking about. 11:44 Second chance we've talked about. 11:45 So there's a place for modern medicine as a bridge. 11:47 All right. Well, you know what 11:48 there is also a place for prayer. 11:51 And we're gonna have Dr. Marcum spend some moment 11:54 with the great physician with you at our return. 11:56 So stay right where you are. 12:03 You shall know the truth, 12:04 and the truth shall set you free. 12:06 We've been talking about truth in this program. 12:09 Where do you find truth? 12:10 And this is a very complex problem 12:12 that I look for truth all the time 12:13 and I'm continuing to find truth. 12:16 But in finding truth that sets you free it all starts 12:19 with that relationship that we've talked about. 12:21 That relationship is in the Bible 12:23 where God is a source of truth and will reveal truth to us 12:27 as this relationship with Him develops. 12:30 This is a key component of good medical care. 12:33 Especially for taking us to the ultimate healing 12:35 that we all want. 12:37 Many of you have called in and written 12:38 to our website for prayer and healing. 12:41 We want to take a time right now to go to the great physician 12:44 to make an appointment with Him, 12:46 for He is gonna listen to us and help us 12:48 find these treatments that we so need in our lives. 12:51 So let's bow our heads together. 12:55 Heavenly Father, we want to thank you so much 12:57 for being a part of our care today. 12:58 And as we come to You 13:00 as we make an appointment in your office, Father. 13:02 Please reveal to us truths that's gonna set us free. 13:06 Set us free in our minds, so we have a clear understanding 13:09 of Your love for us as well as understanding of our health 13:12 how we can change it. 13:13 We pray for the power of the Holy Spirit to change us. 13:16 Father, there're some out there that haven't made or entered 13:19 in this relationship with You Father. 13:20 We want to pray that they start this 13:22 right now through your power. 13:24 Thank you for being with us today and loving us 13:26 so much and taking care of us. 13:27 And please put us-- help us on the right path 13:30 that we always stay with You is our humble prayer, amen. 13:35 You've a lot to think about today regarding truth. 13:38 And it doesn't happen all at once. 13:39 Sometimes it happens a little bit at a time. 13:42 I know some people want to have all the truth at once, 13:44 but I'm afraid it doesn't quite work that way for everyone, 13:46 at least it hasn't worked that way with me. 13:49 We want to invite you to come to our website 13:51 that's heartwiseministries.org and leave a question with us. 13:55 And also we want to invite you next time to join us. |
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