Do you ever have
trouble sleeping at night?
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If so, have you thought about
how the food you eat could be
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a contributing factor?
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On the Ultimate Prescription
today we're going to be
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discussing food as medicine.
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Stay with us, because we're
going to start in just a moment.
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I'm Dr. James Marcum.
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Are you interested in
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Do you want solutions to
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Are you tired of
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Hello, and thank you for
joining us on today program,
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the Ultimate Prescription.
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I'm your host, Nick
Evanson, and we're going to be
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discussing food as medicine.
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Dr. Marcum, welcome to the
program, and thank you so much
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for your sharing your expertise
on how we can use better
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nutrition to
treat medical issues.
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Yeah, this is a very important
topic, because as time moves on
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we're finding other ways
besides prescription medications
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to treat the body and change
the chemistry, and also get at
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the cause of disease rather
than just treating symptoms.
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And we found that in
treating things with nutrition,
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there's much less side effects,
there's much less danger.
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These foods are often
things that we can incorporate
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into our daily diet; great
ways to change our physiology.
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But remember, not all
plants necessarily are good.
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You know, some plants aren't so
good, so we have to be careful.
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You have to check with your
doctor, do the due diligent.
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And that's what we've
tried to do here with this
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series of programs.
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We've gone through the
literature and found which foods
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can treat specific medical
conditions which might help.
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What have the studies shown?
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And a lot of this research
has been pulled by my colleagues
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at NutritionFacts.org
where they've looked at all the
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studies that have been done.
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They've sort of gone
through them all for us,
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and I've sort of collected that.
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And we're talking
about how we can apply it
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to a patient's life.
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Yeah, now food is medicine.
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I'm sure in treating cardiology
it's frequent that you have to
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tell patients that they need to
eat a little bit more of this,
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a little bit less of this.
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How does that go over?
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Well, you know, it's
been hard, and it's been a
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learning experience.
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And I've looked at the way
I practiced the last 25 years,
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and I've changed the
way I approach people.
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You know, some people
can do everything at once.
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And they know if they keep
eating a certain way that it's
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damaging their body; the
fats filling up their arteries.
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They have cancer. They're
eating carcinogen type foods.
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And they know that
if they continue it
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they're going to die.
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So some people can
change just like this, okay?
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But food is such a
big part of our culture.
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It's such a... You
know, it's how we're raised.
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It's how we're growing up.
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We see all these commercials.
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It's a fast food
type thing; it's easy.
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Its appealing to our taste buds.
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We can actually get
addicted to food. Right.
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And the food
companies know this.
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And all these
factors go into this.
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And we also, when I approach a
patient, that we're asking them
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to change, it also
effects their belief systems.
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You know, how
do they believe me?
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You know, they, Oh,
this is what everyone says.
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This must be good! Right.
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So what I have to
do first of all is a
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little bit of education.
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And I have to say, Well,
you know, the way I approach it,
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I have to give them
some evidence based medicine.
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That's what we try to do here.
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And I say, Look at
the world we live in.
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You know, are we getting better?
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You know, there's more
cases of heart disease now,
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more cancer than ever before,
more diabetes, sleep apnea,
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You know, people
are not healthier.
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And yet the prescription
medications go up every year.
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Our technology
gets better every year.
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You would think if we
were solving problems,
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as technology got better these
disease rates, especially for
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chronic disease,
would get better.
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So I sort of talk
to them about that.
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And then we go into, Well,
what causes certain diseases?
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Well, we know that
certain diseases like diabetes,
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extra weight, you
know, extra fat in the body,
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certain diseases like
hypertension, which leads to
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stroke and heart disease, and
kidney disease, lots of sodium,
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and processed foods, too much
animal based products trigger
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certain types of cancer, okay?
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And it just wears in general.
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It wears our bodies out.
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So once people start to
understand that they begin that
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maybe the food we eat
aren't the best things.
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And then they start
doing a little research.
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We give them some websites,
and they realize, Yeah, we're
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putting a lot of chemicals, and
preservatives, and, you know,
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there's got to be a better way.
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So I try to also
incorporate God's way.
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And I show, you know,
God's original plan was lots of
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fruits,
vegetables, nuts, and grains.
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And, unfortunately, what we're
doing to our food source might
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not be the best,
so learn about it.
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And then, wherever they're at,
I say, Well, listen, the first
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place I want a person
to start is in prayer.
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Talk to God about it.
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Give Him a part of your
life, a part of your health.
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And I explain how
our health and our
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spirituality go hand in hand.
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The better we feel, the better
our body is, the better we
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communicate with God.
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The better we communicate
with God the more we learn these
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things, and have the
power to maybe make a change.
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And then I don't try
to do everything, okay?
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And if I say, Well, let's just
pick one thing that you can do
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and pray about it, and see if
it helps your body out. Right.
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So we talk about some of
the things that they love,
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and things that they like, and
things that they might not like.
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And then we say, Well,
why don't you do this first?
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You know, why don't
you try to substitute?
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Maybe you could eat all the good
things first, and it would...
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And just eat enough bad
stuff to be happy? Uh huh.
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Let's eat early in the mornings
so we're not so starved we make
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the chemicals, Ghrelin and some
of the leptons that make us not
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able to make a good decision.
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Let's try to find substitutes.
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And it might take years, and
years, and years to get a person
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heading in the right direction.
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And we don't want them to change
because of guilt, or we don't
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want them to feel pressure.
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We want them to do it because
God is changing their lives.
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That they do it because
they want to have a better
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relationship with God.
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They want to take
care of this gift.
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And we understand that we don't
have to do everything at once.
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We're a work in
progress. That's right.
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And even if we can't be
perfect on food and everything,
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as long as we have God in
our lives, His grace makes up
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for our weaknesses.
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None of us are ever
going to be perfect in health
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about anything, okay?
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But we can head in that
direction with God's help.
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So I just tried those things,
and I pick at least one thing
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a person can do to do better.
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And I have some patients that
the only single thing that they
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can do is drink water. Yeah.
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I have some that all
they can do is eat breakfast.
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I have some that all they can do
is only eat greens once a day.
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But once they start doing
this, their physiology changes.
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When they're working
with God, God shows them ways,
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and gives them more power,
and before long I find out,
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you know, they feel better.
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And the people that I can
get to make the big changes,
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they feel better
than they ever have.
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They get off
prescription medicines.
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They have the chance to reverse
or halt disease, diabetes,
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lose weight, better
inflammation, think better,
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sleep better at night.
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The list goes on and on.
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But it's not so easy.
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And I pray for them, too, that
I reach them as well as I could.
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But it's really God's power that
gives them the ability to make
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changes for the right reasons.
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So that's my approach right now.
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It hasn't always been that way.
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Now, Nick, I have some patients
that come, they can't walk
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across the room,
because they have angina.
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They know if they
don't make these changes now,
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they're not going
to live long. Right.
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So they make
changes very quickly.
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I have some people that have
had cancer, and they know that
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the only way to keep, to
lower the risk of cancer is to
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change the way they eat.
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So they can make
changes right now. Yeah.
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We have some that have some
bad side effects on medications,
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and sometimes when
they're feeling bad they can
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make changes quicker.
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Some people have to
stay alive to take care
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of their loved ones. Right.
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They seem to
make changes quicker.
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But I think the key, the
approach is, I get them to
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turn to Christ as not
only someone to help them,
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but to see the things that they
need to do, and give them the
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power to make things.
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And try to just
done one thing at a time.
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Some people can't
do everything at once.
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And give them
the important things.
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And then as they do this
we'll try to encourage them,
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and bring on... And some times
I can say, Well, why don't you
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at good 80% of the time, and
only eat bad 20% of the time?
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Well, when people start
eating good, after a while their
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receptors in their brain change,
and food tastes different
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to them, and then
they're able to make a change.
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Sometimes I can say,
Well, why don't you...
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You know you
like ice cream a lot.
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Well, why don't you, instead
of eating ice cream every night,
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Right. Why don't you
substitute it one night?
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Eat berries with that, you know?
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Well, why don't you, you
say you like to eat chips,
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and I used to be a big
chip eater, Nick. I used to.
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So what now? I loved to
eat chips and dip stuff.
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But now I'm trying to take my
vegetables like celery, carrots,
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and I'm try to dip it
in something like tahini,
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or hummus, or something like
that, and find a substitute.
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And praying that God will change
my taste buds so I'll like
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that even more. Right.
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So that's sort of
my general approach.
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And then when I treat myself,
I like to treat, you know,
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put spices on things; trying
to find substitutes that God's
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given us that we have even more.
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But that's the
approach I take now.
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Who knows what it
will be in the future.
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And each person,
Nick, is an individual.
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And not one program
works for everybody, you know.
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And you have to be flexible,
because you don't want to
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change them, you know, if their
diet effects their belief system
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that might hurt them, too.
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So it's much more
complicated by saying,
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you need to do
this, this, and this.
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Here's why you need to do it.
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It's working with people,
loving them, not judging them,
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working with their
belief system, their cultures.
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There's some parts of the
world that don't have access
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to healthy foods. Right.
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You know, I had someone one
time that all they had to eat
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was a bad food, but I would
rather have them eat that bad
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food and stay alive,
than have low blood sugar.
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That's right. You make the best
you can out of a situation here.
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Exactly, and you don't
beat yourself up, you know?
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If you have one bad day, just
try not to have two bad days.
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Sure. You know, and try
to let God work with you
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in your nutrition, giving
you the power to see things.
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And that's what we're trying
to do here is giving some people
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some options where they
can learn, and maybe make some
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changes where
they can feel better.
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And that's why I've researched
these different plants,
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and different things that we can
use, and maybe substitute some
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of these for
prescription medications.
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Yeah. Well, let's
talk about it here.
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Today we've got sesame
seeds, and we also have
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some pumpkin seeds.
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What are these good for?
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Well, if you think about seeds,
seeds are like power packed.
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Because seeds grow
into big plants. Right.
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So there are very concentrated
good things in seeds.
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And we've been told
about how God has given
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us the seeds to eat.
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And there's a sesame seed there.
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And a lot of people
can incorporate that.
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You know, you can eat
those, but they tend to be
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salty a little bit.
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But a lot of people
incorporate those into baking.
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You know, you can
bake with this. Right.
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They're a little nutty.
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It's the main
ingredient of a product we hear
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about called tahini.
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Have you ever had tahini?
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You know, I think I
have, but I can't recall
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what it tastes like.
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Did you know that
that's sesame seeds?
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Now one of the things
that sesame seeds have that are
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valuable, they have a
lot of trace elements.
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Okay, these are elements like
copper; very high in copper.
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Things like magnesium,
phosphorus, iron, zinc;
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different things like that
have a lot of selenium in it.
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And sesame, that has a chemical
called sesamum, and those are a
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type of chemical
called lignins, okay?
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And lignin's, that chemical, I
wish I could have a lignin pill
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that I could just
give separately. Sure.
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But there seems to be something
special about it when a lignin
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wrapped in a plant that
it gets absorbed better.
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And that's why, sometimes,
people pull out the nutrients
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and concentrate it.
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Well, those as a supplement
don't seem to work as well as
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if you eat the
whole food itself. Right.
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So when we have these chemicals
it always works in a delivery
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system if you eat the
food that it was packaged in.
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Well lignin's,
they have phytosterols.
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And the phytosterols in the
lignin's, they seem to lower
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cholesterol, and they seem
to also lower blood pressure.
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And also it seems to help the
liver to protect it from this
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process called oxidation;
the aging part of the liver.
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You know, stress
causes oxidation.
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Different things can cause that.
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For instance, copper,
that's a trace element.
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You've heard of copper,
right? in pennies? Right.
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But we need
copper in our bodies.
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And copper seems to
help in some types of pain.
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You know, for arthritic pains,
for years we used to give people
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gold, or trace
elements seemed to help with
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rheumatoid arthritis.
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Magnesium, which we can get in
sesame seeds, helps with asthma.
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It helps with
rhythm of the heart.
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Lots of people come
to me with palpitations.
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And sometimes it's just
because they don't have enough
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magnesium in their diet.
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Of course, magnesium helps
lower blood pressure as well.
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And it helps in some studies
to lower migraine headaches.
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Really? So just getting
magnesium in the body can
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help with a lot of things.
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Now, so those are some of the
good things about sesame seeds.
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Now pumpkin seeds... Have you
ever eaten pumpkin seeds much?
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I have, you know.
Sometimes they're packaged,
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and they're a little bit salty.
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I don't know that
they're that way naturally,
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but that's really pumpkin seeds.
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Pumpkin seeds are again another
seed that has lots of good
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things that help us.
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One of the trace elements that
pumpkin seeds has in it is the
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substance called zinc, okay?
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Zinc is a very important
chemical in our body that helps
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our bones do better, helps us
not to have as many fractures.
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It improves our immune function,
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and also helps our prostate.
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In fact in the prostate in
men, that's where they have the
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highest zinc levels
in the body. Really?
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In the prostate; lots.
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And so it's a very
important trace element.
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So if you run low on zinc in
the body, you're not going to...
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Your prostate's not
going to work as well.
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You're going to have a
higher risk of broken bones.
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Your immune
system's going to go down.
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It's also, these pumpkin seeds
are a good source of vitamin E,
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which helps the skin do better.
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And remember, vitamins are
important enzymes in our bodies.
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It also helps, again, magnesium.
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It helps all the
things we talked about.
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Pumpkin seeds also have Omega
3 healthy fat in them. Right.
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And we've already talked about
how the healthy fat helps brain
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function, helps lots
of the parts of our body.
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But one of the things I wanted
to talk about, and you alluded
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to it in our opening, that
pumpkin seeds help with the
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substance called
tryptophan in the body.
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Right. Now tryptophan... I'm
sure some of our viewers have
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heard of that before.
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That's usually associated with
eating turkey at Thanksgiving,
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and it makes you sleepy.
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Is that right? Right, right.
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But turkey's not the best
place to get it necessarily.
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It's not the only source,
but you can get tryptophan from
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pumpkin seeds, and in the
body it turns it into serotonin,
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and also it turns
it into melatonin.
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And melatonin
helps as a sleep aid.
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So if you're having problems
sleeping, maybe you should
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eat some seeds occasionally
to see if it will help you
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sleep better at night.
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Now I wouldn't eat it
right before I go to bed,
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but I might eat it
with my evening meal.
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I might throw some pumpkin
seeds in there; see if I can
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increase my tryptophan, which
is going to help brain function,
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my serotonin, which
might help depression.
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The serotonin could
get converted to melatonin,
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which helps us sleep better.
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So just having some
seeds might help with sleep.
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It's also been shown in a few
studies, pumpkin seeds to have
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anti-inflammatory effects. Okay.
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They ran it head to head,
a handful of pumpkin seeds,
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with a medicine called Indocin,
and they found that the pumpkin
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seeds helped a lot with
inflammation in the body.
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So it helps a lot. Now
a lot of people like to...
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You know, you've
heard of different types of
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seeds being sprouted.
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Have you heard of
that? Uh huh. Okay.
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You know, we
hear about sprouting.
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I found that
sprouting, it also...
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A lot of people like to do it.
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And the sprouts
are very healthy.
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But in my
experience, sprouts do take
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a lot of time to do this. Right.
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But sprouting seems to help
a chemical called phytic acid
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in the body, which
broadens our nutrient
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composition of these seeds.
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So seeds have an
abundant way of helping our
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body in numerous ways: the
trace elements, the lignin's,
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which help lower
cholesterol and blood pressure.
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It might help us with
the tryptophan levels,
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which can help us sleep well.
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It does a lot of good things.
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These are just the things
that the studies have shown.
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It probably does a
lot more good things.
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And we have other
seeds that you heard about.
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You remember Chia seeds? Uh huh.
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I like to put some Chia seeds
on my oatmeal every day. Right.
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A lot of other different seeds
we can incorporate into our diet
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to not only help our bodies do
better, but also help specific
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conditions we might
get in trouble with.
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Yeah. Well, it sounds like
there's a lot of good reasons to
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incorporate these
seeds into our diet.
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And we're going to do
just that after the break here.
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We're going to look at some more
ways to incorporate sesame seeds
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and pumpkin seeds into our diet.
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So stay with us. The
Ultimate Prescription
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returns in just a moment.
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