Welcome back to the
Ultimate Prescription
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and thank you for joining us.
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I'm Nick Evenson, your host,
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and we're talking
with Dr. James Marcum today
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about the
medicinal properties of food,
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and how we can
incorporate that into our diet
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to live healthier
lives as God intended.
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And, Dr. Marcum, what are
we gonna talk about today?
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What kind of
foods have we brought
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that we're gonna talk about?
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You know, you know,
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there are so
many different foods
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we can talk about,
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but what I wanna do is
talk about specific foods
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and studies that have
been done that proves,
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proves beyond a
doubt that these foods,
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the chemicals in them
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can be used to
treat certain conditions.
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And I had a gentleman
that came to the office
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not too long ago
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and he suffered from Gout, okay.
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Now what is gout?
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You know, gout is a
very painful condition
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that many people have
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where the body
makes excess uric acid,
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and the uric acid
gets in a joint usually
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and it causes
lots of inflammation,
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lots of pain.
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In fact, one of the joints
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that happens with
the most is the big toe.
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So when anyone comes
with a swollen big toe,
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you always say,
"Well, could they have gout?"
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And the way we
make this diagnosis,
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it's sort of an
arthritis, inflammation,
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inflammation of a
joint is called arthritis.
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And different things
can cause the inflammation,
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sometimes the inflammation
is caused by uric acid,
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we call that gout,
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sometimes it's caused by
just age and wearing out,
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we call that osteoarthritis.
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Sometimes the
body attacks itself,
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we call that
rheumatoid arthritis.
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So there's
different types of arthritis
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and we can treat
this with medicinal,
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you know, we can use
food as a medicine treat.
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So this gentleman came to me
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and he had a lot
of problems with gout.
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Well, I told him that cherries
could be used to treat gout.
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And we brought some
cherries here today,
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and he started
eating the cherries.
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And guess what?
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His inflammation
of his body decreased.
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And I wanna share with
our viewers of how cherries
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is the treatment
for inflammation,
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specifically, the
inflammation of gout.
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And we brought some
cherries here, didn't we?
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That's right, we did it.
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I'm actually gonna
go ahead and take one
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and we're gonna cut it
up here and just kinda...
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You've gotta tell and taste
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'cause if we've got
food, we might as well try it.
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But some people have never
even eaten cherries very much.
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So are those
hard, are they soft?
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These are whole cherries,
and they're, they're not hard.
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They're kind of soft,
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but they have a
pit in them and a stem.
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So I'm gonna try
not to cut myself here
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and we're gonna
cut one open and see.
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Okay.
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So I gave this
gentleman cherries to help with,
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you know, his
inflammation of his gout,
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'cause he had gout a lot.
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Uric acid, he
measured in his blood,
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sometimes we used to
actually check crystals,
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we used to put a needle in it
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and get the
crystals out to prove
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what kind of arthritis it was.
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But we started eating cherries
and guess what his gout...
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Are you gonna try that
or you want me to try that?
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Oh, you try that, Marcum.
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So the cherries...
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You better be careful,
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don't stain your jacket, please.
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No, I won't.
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Very juicy. Juicy.
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Very flavorful. I like that.
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You can eat them on their
own, they're nice and sweet.
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And about a cup is probably
a decent serving I would guess.
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This is about a cup of cherries.
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And...
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I guess you eat them raw.
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You wash them
off and eat them raw.
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Yeah. Okay.
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They're probably better for you
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just like this rather
than having them in a pie.
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'Cause what happens
when we take these foods
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and we put them in
with ice cream, or pies...
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Sometimes we get the bad
things from the other foods
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and, you know, it negates
as much of the good stuff
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from the cherries.
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But anyway, these ideas
as cherry is treating gout
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and inflammation has
been around for a long time.
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In fact, in the '50s, there
was a Cleveland Clinic article
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that suggested cherry
as a treatment for gout.
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But back in around 2006,
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in the Journal of the Nutrition,
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Dr Kelly showed the studies
where people ate cherries,
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it helped inflammation,
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decreased the inflammation
that comes with gout.
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But, you know, you want to get
at the cause of gout as well,
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remember, uric acid.
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Sometimes people just get it
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because their
metabolism is poor.
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But a lot of people eat
uric acid in their foods.
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We know that foods
that have animals in them
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have a lot more uric
acid in them than plants.
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So we... People eat more
plants that have lots of gout
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that helps prevent it.
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Now the medicines
that sometimes used to that
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is we have one
called, Allopurinol.
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And that's really used to help
the production of uric acid,
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and then when a person gets it,
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they get on lots
of anti-inflammatory,
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'cause it's very painful
when your foot is all swollen.
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So they've traditionally
taken one called Indocin,
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other anti-inflammatories,
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but now this study shows
that maybe instead of taking
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the anti-inflammatory medicines,
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we can take
cherries as a treatment
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for chronic disease.
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So as we talk this
series of programs,
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we're gonna talk
about different foods
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and how it can help
different conditions,
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and also we're gonna
talk about how certain foods,
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bad foods can cause,
accelerate things to happen.
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Did you know that,
Nick, if you have genetics,
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let's say you're born with,
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you know, your bad
genes for instance,
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do we know that bad
habits including bad foods
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put stress on our bodies?
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And when the stress
happens to the body,
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the part of our DNA called
the telomere starts to change,
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it gets smaller,
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then we have
mutations in our genetics,
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and disease is
activated at a much earlier age.
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So let's say you're
destined to have abnormalities
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in a metabolism at certain age.
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Well, if you eat certain foods
that put stress on that system,
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that might
happen at an earlier age
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than if you didn't do things
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that we're putting
stress on the body.
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So everything that we put
in our bodies, in our minds,
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is either gonna
make us better or worse.
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And what I define
as stress is anything
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that goes against
God's original plan,
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sort of puts stress on us.
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And we saw in our opening about,
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we talked about Genesis
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and how our original plan was
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to eat lots of things that grow.
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Well, when we put
things that don't grow in us,
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it could put stress on
it and activate bad things,
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including bad genetics
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that we might have
inherited from our mom and dad.
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No, not everything, you know,
some things are purely genetic
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but usually it's
things that stresses,
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turn on our genetics,
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and there's a
rapidly growing field
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called epigenetics.
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What activates your genes?
What turns them on and off?
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Why do these things happen?
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A very fascinating thing
that we're gonna talk about,
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and food seems to play a role
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in how our genes
are turned on and off.
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And it seems like food seems to
help our good genes do better.
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Yeah.
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You know, there's a lot of
great information right there.
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Let me kind of
see if I can recapture
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a couple of key
points that you mentioned.
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One of them was that uric
acid is the key contributor
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for causing gout, is that right?
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Yes, that's correct.
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And eating a heavy meat diet
contributes to more uric acid?
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Yes, it does. Okay.
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That's more gout in the
body and if you have bad genes
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that can't, you
know, metabolize uric acid,
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that uric acid is
made too much of it,
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we can see that in
the blood or in the joint
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and if it gets in a joint,
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and the crystals start
to deposit in that joint,
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you have lots of pain.
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A big swollen toe,
a big swollen foot,
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those type of things happen.
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So basically, if we eat more
zero'iym as you said earlier,
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things that grow...
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Things that grow.
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Eat more of that, that's
kind of God's plan for our lives
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and if we follow God's plan,
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it's gonna, it's gonna
help many areas of our life.
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And we're gonna find out
that these are the studies
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that we know about,
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there's lots of
studies that we don't,
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so we know that
cherries help gout
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but we also know that
cherries have antioxidants
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that help our DNA,
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lower the risk of cancer,
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lowering the risk
of many other things
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that are going on in our bodies.
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That's great.
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You know, we've
actually been working
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on a Bible study program
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called Biblical Prescriptions
for Life, this last year,
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we're gonna talk about
that more in just a minute,
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but we've got a clip
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that Dr. Marcum presents
a Biblical Prescriptions
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for Life in 60 seconds,
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and we wanna take a
look at that right now.
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I'm Dr. James Marcum
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with your Biblical
Prescriptions for Life.
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Unfortunately,
many in this world
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suffer from chronic pain.
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Well, I've got
some good news for you
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and that's a
Biblical prescription
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for the
treatment of chronic pain.
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It's in Psalm 100:2, it says
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"Serve the Lord with gladness,
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come before His
presence with singing."
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Did you know that when we sing,
when we have music in our life,
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it is a
treatment for chronic pain?
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Studies in Circulation,
the Southern Medical Journal,
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and also the
Cochrane report has shown,
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that when we have
music in our lives,
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it decreases our
pain in our body.
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It might do this by increasing
oxytocin and endorphins
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or decreasing chronic stress.
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But if you have chronic pain,
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I want to encourage you
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turn to a biblical
prescription for life.
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That's found in Psalms 100:2,
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"Come before the
Lord with singing."
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So that's a
Biblical prescription
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from the scriptures
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that can help
everybody's lives today.
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And I think it's
so interesting, Nick,
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that now we have technology
to prove the Bible is true.
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You know, we know
that God's words are true,
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but now we have
science, and studies,
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and we have DNA.
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We can look at these genetics,
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and we can look at
these MRIs and scans,
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and show how God's word
actually does affect our lives.
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Yeah.
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And what that, you know,
that's why we published this
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Biblical Prescriptions for Life,
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this is a seven-week Bible study
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that literally
walks people through
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these Biblical prescriptions.
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Right.
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So this is a
video and a study guide
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that people can take
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and do at home
with their friends.
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And this is to help make these
health principles practical,
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and applicable, and
to help each other along
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in studying God's word
and in a small group setting.
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Is that right? Yeah.
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And it's also a way that
they can help their friends,
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and neighbors, and if you're,
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if you wanna share
the gospel with someone,
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it gives ways that
you can introduce them
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into a
relationship with their Savior.
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'Cause this shows
how worship in itself
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changes their physiology.
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Yeah, now, is
this just about food
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or is this covering a
broad spectrum of health?
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Health is more
than just one aspect.
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You know, health involves
everything in our lives.
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The way we
think, the way we move,
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the way we interact
with God, the food we eat,
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but it really
focuses on worship,
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and how worship acts
as a corner of our health,
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'cause when we have
worship, God gives us the power
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to change for the right reasons.
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So how can people
get a hold of this?
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Yeah.
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So we would love
to encourage you all,
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if you wanna learn more about
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Biblical Prescriptions for Life,
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you can visit our website at
BiblicalPrescriptions.com/3abn.
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And you can find the
video that you just saw
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of Dr. Marcum
presenting a 60-second message,
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and you can share
that on your social media,
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you can download those,
and play them in your church.
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Wherever you can,
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you're welcome to download those
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and share those.
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And we also
invite you to call 3ABN
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and get your copy
by calling them at
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618-627-4651.
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So they can order this,
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they can start
their study in their home,
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and they can take this to
their friends and neighbors,
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small groups, that
sounds like something that,
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and it's very
inexpensive as well,
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much cheaper
than taking medicines
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the rest of your life.
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That's right.
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You know, we're trying to
follow Jesus' example here
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when He, when He reached people,
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He tried to help them
with their physical health
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and then point them
towards a relationship
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with the Father.
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And that's kind of
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a lot of your
philosophy in health, right?
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Yeah, and if they have questions
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and get a hold of us, how
they can get a hold of us?
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With our website?
Yep, that's right.
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Sorry. Our website...
You got blank on me there.
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That's right,
sorry. Stay with me.
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HeartwiseMinistries.org
is our website
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and we encourage
you to visit that
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and see health articles,
we also have radio programs,
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a lot of great health
content you can find there.
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So thank you very
much for joining us today
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and Dr. Marcum is
gonna close in a moment
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with just a few final thoughts.
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We have covered a
lot of ground today.
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But I wanna leave you
with two major thoughts
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that you can take with you.
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Number one, is food
can be used as medicine.
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We can use certain
foods to treat things
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as well as to
prevent different conditions,
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and we want you to
check with your doctor,
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when your
medical condition to see
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if certain foods would
help, help you do better.
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So don't do this
'cause certain foods
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can interact
with the medications
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your physicians
might have you on.
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Point number two,
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is cherries is
very useful for people
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that have gout and inflammation.
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So try some cherries if
you might suffer from gout.
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And realize cherries
probably do a lot more
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than just help the
inflammation of gout.
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We also know the
importance of prayer,
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and God's word in healing
our bodies 'cause, you know,
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all of us are promised healing.
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It's just where, when, and how,
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when we have that relationship
with our heavenly Father.
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So let me say a
prayer with you today,
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those of you that might
need a little extra help,
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might need encouragement
to make some changes
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one step at a time.
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Let's bow our heads.
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Heavenly Father, we
thank you for being a God
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that loves us and
give us recommendations
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about the foods we should eat,
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and given us different things
we can do to make our bodies
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that you've given
us better, now those,
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all those out there that
need healing right now, Father,
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we pray that You be
especially close to them.
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Now go with us
this day, is our prayer.
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Amen.
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Well, I wanna
thank you for joining us
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on the Ultimate Prescription.
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If you want to get a hold of me,
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go to our website
HeartwiseMinistries.org,
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there we have a
wonderful prayer page.
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And if you leave your
name and your prayer requests,
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we would be
happy to pray for you.
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