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Have you ever sat down
to take your medications
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and just wondered
how did I get here?
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Maybe you would like
to reduce your dependence
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on prescription medications
or prevent further disease.
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On today's program
we're gonna be discussing
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food as medicine.
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Now, we're gonna discuss ideas
that you can implement today
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regardless of where
you're starting from.
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Thanks for joining us.
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The Ultimate
Prescription starts now.
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I am Dr. James Marcum.
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Are you interested in
discovering the reason
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why you want solutions
to your healthcare problem?
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Are you tired of
taking medications?
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Well, you're about to be
given the Ultimate Prescription.
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Hello, and thank
you for joining us today
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on the Ultimate Prescription.
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A program dedicated to
helping us better understand
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and follow God's
plan for our lives.
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My name is Nick
Evenson, your host,
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and I'm here
with Dr. James Marcum.
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And on today's program,
we're gonna be discussing
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food as medicine.
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Dr. Marcum, thank you
for joining us here today.
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Well, thanks for
hosting me, Nick,
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it's always nice
to be here with you
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to discuss really
an important topic.
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And this is one that
is sort of a trendsetter,
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you know, 'cause
not a lot of people
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talk about how our nutrition,
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the food we eat can
use to treat disease
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as well as prevent disease.
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We're gonna show the signs
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over the next
several weeks in programs
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of how the studies have
shown that certain foods we eat
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have the chemicals in it
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that can treat
certain conditions
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and also prevent
certain conditions.
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This gonna be very
fascinating subject.
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Now, as a practicing cardiology,
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cardiologist, you
do medicine every day,
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you see patients regularly.
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I'm sure you write a
lot of prescriptions, right?
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Well, you know, I do
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but it's not the
type that you might see.
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Okay.
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Many of the conditions
I can give a prescription
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like for a grain or to
exercise or certain foods
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and accomplish
some of the same things
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that people will do it
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as prescription
medications or other treatments.
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And that's what
we're gonna show.
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We're gonna
show people the steps
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that they can do
one step at a time,
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the science behind it
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and how to apply it to your life
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and also get your,
how to get your doctor
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to buy into this.
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So it's gonna be a
very fascinating study
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that we do.
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Yeah, let's jump into
that little bit further.
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What is the time
and the place for using,
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you know, cherries, greens,
different things like this,
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rather eating food,
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rather than maybe
modern medicines offering...
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Well, that's a...
that's a great question, Nick,
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because modern medicine
treat symptoms and not causes,
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so I divided up into something
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that's an emergency
versus a chronic condition.
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Even when we bypass a
patient, bypass around them,
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we don't take
away the blockages,
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so I might use
the bypass to help
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the symptoms of chest pain,
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and then when
they come back I say,
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"Well, let's learn
what caused that to happen."
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That's one of the
chemistry that caused you
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to need modern medicine.
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So modern medicine is
great for acute problems,
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heart attacks, acute stroke,
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bleeding to death,
needing an antibiotic,
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those are great
places for modern medicine.
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If I'm having a surgery, I
want anesthesia, don't you?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, put you to sleep you know.
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So there's a place
for modern medicine,
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but
unfortunately it doesn't treat
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what many people have today
and that's chronic disease.
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Do you know what a
chronic disease is?
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Chronic, to me it sounds like
something that's just ongoing.
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Yes, it's been
around a long time
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and the chronic diseases
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that we talk of the
most are acquired diseases
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like type 2
diabetes, high blood pressure,
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cancer could be
considered an acquired disease,
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obesity, joint
pains, inflammation,
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depression, anxiety,
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many of these
diseases are chronic.
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They've been going on
for long periods of time.
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Now modern
medicine still treats these
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with medications
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but often time we
don't get at the cause.
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So now there's a new
trend of let's find other ways
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that are safer,
that are cheaper,
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that are more effective,
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that not only treat the symptoms
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but perhaps treat
the cause of disease.
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Does this make sense?
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Yeah, yeah, so if
it's a chronic situation,
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there's probably some
preventive measures we can take
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to keep it from getting worse,
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but if you have
an acute problem,
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you need to go to
your doctor immediately
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and they're gonna probably
use some modern medicine.
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That's exactly right,
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and that's the approach
that I take in my office.
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You know, if someone's
having a funny heart rhythm,
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I try to get the
rhythm taken care of first
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and then see if we
can address the cause.
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If someone's having
chest pain when they walk,
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I'll try to get that
chest pain to go away first,
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then we deal with the cause.
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If someone has arthritis,
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we try to get the
pain to go away with,
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and then we try
to treat the cause.
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Same with all
these bowel functions,
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depression, anxiety,
all of these chronic,
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if someone has cancer, we
try to slow down the cancer,
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and then see if we can get
at the cause of the cancer.
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Sometimes just cutting it out,
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sometimes just changing
the metabolism of the body.
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These thoughts
have been going on
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for quite a long period of time.
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Yeah, so the idea of
using food as medicine,
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is it something new or
has it been around a while?
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No, it's been around.
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Let's talk about that
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and I wanted to
open the scriptures
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because when I
started to, you know,
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I went to medical school
and I've been practicing, Nick,
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for 25 years now.
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And the more I
learn the less I know,
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does that make sense?
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Yeah, sure.
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The body is a
lot more complicated
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than that we
can even understand.
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We're just learning things
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about how the brain
affects our metabolism,
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how our thoughts,
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health thoughts
that are in our brains
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that we don't even
know they're there,
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that come to our consciousness.
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How our bowels
with a trillion bacteria
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get turned on.
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The DNA is exposed
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and does different
things in different situations.
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So we're learning a lot
but these aren't new concepts,
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God has given us
ideas in the Scriptures,
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biblical prescriptions
that change our lives,
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so what I've been doing is
going back to the Scriptures
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seeing what God has taught,
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then finding the
science behind it
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and teaching
people how to make changes
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in their lives
one step at a time.
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And when I say this has
been going on for a while,
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I want to take people
back to Genesis, Genesis 1,
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you know what's in Genesis 1?
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Creation. Yup, the creation.
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So let's go back
to the very beginning
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and see what God
says in Genesis 1:29,
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it says, and God says,
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that's pretty
powerful and God says,
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you know, I'm gonna
listen if God says it, right?
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He says, "See I have given
you every herb that yields seed
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which is on the
face of the earth
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and every tree
whose fruit yield seed
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to you it shall be your food."
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So God sort of
lining in those things
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that grow things,
that come from seeds,
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that's what we
should eat and He also says,
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"And also that the
beast of the earth,
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to every bird of the
air and to everything
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that creeps on the
earth to which there is life
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I've given green herb for food."
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So basically God's saying,
He wants us to eat things
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that grow, things
that come from seeds.
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That's right.
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So that, that's the
really sort of the basis
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of God's original
plan back at creation.
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So that's a
template that we can use,
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not only just helps
keep our body running smooth,
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but we're gonna find out
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through the next
series of programs
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that these
substances also have chemicals
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just like a pill
might have a chemical
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that changes our bodies.
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And what I found out about
a biblical prescription, Nick,
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is biblical
prescriptions help every cell,
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they usually don't...
they don't have side effects,
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they're usually not expensive,
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they're usually
available to everyone.
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Now it might be different people
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have different
access to different foods,
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but God makes these
available to His people.
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Right.
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And we study the
first nutrition study.
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Do you know where
the first nutrition study
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was done at?
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I did in the
Book of Daniel, right?
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Yeah.
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I... We've talked about that.
Yeah, we've talked about that.
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But remember the story,
what happened in that story?
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So, Daniel and his friends were,
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they were ordered to
eat the king's feast,
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but they hadn't
been raised that way,
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that's not how they were taught,
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and they wanted to
eat something different.
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That's exactly right.
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And it must have
been pretty powerful
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because these
were young, young guys,
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and they moved away from home
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and yet when they
moved away from home,
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they were so ingrained,
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this was so
powerful in their life.
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You know, their
parents must have taught them
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about what they should eat,
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because when they
went to the foreign land,
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what did they say,
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"No I don't, I don't
want to eat the king's food."
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And in the Hebrew
the word is zero'iym
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and that means
that which is grown.
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So again we see
things that come from seeds,
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things that grow,
that's the best food for us.
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Not things that have
mothers? No, that's right.
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And after a
short period of time,
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after short period of time
it says, their countenance,
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the way they look was better.
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So it just shows, you know,
after a few days, you know,
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a few days their
countenance was even better,
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so every cell in
their body improve
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because it was obvious.
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Now they didn't...
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I'm sure back then
they didn't have blood work
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to check their blood sugar,
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detector inflammation to
check their blood pressure,
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to look at some
of the biometrics
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that we look at,
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but you know
what, it didn't matter,
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they could just see it in them,
you know, that glow is better,
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you know, how it is
when you see someone healthy,
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you say, "Man,
you look healthy,"
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and likewise when
someone looks sick,
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you can just tell.
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Well, after a
short period of time
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when they ate
just things from seeds,
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they were ten times smarter.
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And after a period of time
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when they finished
the king's program,
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they said they
were ten times smarter,
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ten times smarter.
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So just think about it,
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if the wise men
were walking around
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with IQs of 120-130
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and Daniel and his
friends were ten times smarter,
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they were walking
around with IQs of 1200?
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It's significant.
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Yeah, and no wonder
the king was smart enough
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to put them in charge of things
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because they're
smarter than everyone else,
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but remember, I think
it wasn't about the food
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but also about the worship
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because they
worshipped the true God,
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they stayed true
to His principles
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no matter what.
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So here we see the
physical and the spiritual
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working together
to improve our health
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in a scientific study.
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So you're saying it's not
just the behavior of eating
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what they were taught,
but the reason they did it
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was because they
were following God's plan.
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Exactly, the
worship, they put God's plan,
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they knew that
God's plan was the best.
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God taught them how
to apply that to life
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and they weren't
afraid to do that,
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they weren't afraid to worship
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because they saw
the bigger benefits
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in brain health and
also physical health.
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So as we talk
about food and medicine,
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this goes way, way back.
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Now, one of the earliest doctors
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and I want to throw
a quiz at you, okay,
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see if you can get this right.
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All right.
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Who was a Greek physician
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that was considered
the father of medicine?
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Who is that?
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So, if you go back,
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I actually read
about this recently.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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We're talking
about Hippocrates, right?
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Yes.
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And this was 400 years
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before Christ came
to earth, is that right?
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That's correct.
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That's remarkable
to me like, you know,
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'cause I read about
Hippocrates a little bit,
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but I didn't
realize that was actually
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before Jesus walked the earth.
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You're doing very good, Nick,
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and now for the bonus
question, the bonus question.
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Oh, yeah.
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Hippocrates made
a famous statement
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that has lasted
now 400 before Christ
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and now you know
the year we're in now,
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so this has been going on
for years and years and years.
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Right.
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What is that
statement that he made back then
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that still applies today?
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Something about
food be thy medicine
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and medicine be thy food.
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Yes, so even back then
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he understood the
importance of nutrition
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in treating the body
and preventing disease.
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In fact, you know,
there's been stories told
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that you know as part of
the treatment for patients,
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he actually grew crops.
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Yeah. Now here's
the bonus question.
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Do you know what types
of crops he was growing
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as using food as medicine?
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You got me there, I don't.
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Well, I can't
remember, it wasn't alfalfa
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but it was something
that he actually grew
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in the fields,
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some plant that
he used as medicine,
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but he also saw the importance
of water too, you know,
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as something more
important than wine,
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you know, wine
was big back then.
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Right.
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You know, but he saw
the importance of water.
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So this thought
of food as medicine
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and medicine as food,
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it's been around for a long time
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but we sort of
lost track of that.
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You know, we
started as societies
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we wanted the easy way,
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so with that
came processed food,
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putting chemicals in food,
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you know, eating food that,
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you know, wasn't
really good for us,
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and now over the
last 100 years or so,
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we're understanding
that these types of food
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causes to have chronic disease.
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So it only makes sense
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if we want to get
rid of the symptoms,
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let's try to get at the cause.
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So we have to think of food
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as not only ways to
prevent chronic disease,
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but also to treat it
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because there's
chemicals in these foods,
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and we're gonna talk about these
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over the next period of time
of how this can make us better,
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and how we can
apply it to our lives.
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Now I want to clarify one thing.
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Yeah, sure.
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Some people may
be sitting at home,
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listening to this and
think, oh, that sounds great,
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I'm gonna get rid of all
my prescription medications...
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Oh, no, no. Is
that what we're saying?
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Or can you expect
to completely remove
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prescription medication?
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Well, there is a
place for modern medicine.
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And some people
have genetic concerns
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that no matter what they
do, no matter what they eat,
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they still have problems.
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And, you know, good
nutrition is gonna help
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those genetic
problems, not accelerate.
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But I had a guy
that came into the office
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not too long ago,
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that had suffered a
heart attack at age 57
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he did everything right.
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I asked him how old was his dad,
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his dad was 42.
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So it seems like
these chronic things
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turn on our genetics,
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and as we go on
we're gonna talk about
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how food affects our telomeres,
and helps us, you know,
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prevent mutations
and also bad foods
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and bad habits
can cause these things
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which accelerate aging
and our body getting old.
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Well, that was
pretty great introduction
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to the topic of
food as medicine,
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but we've got to take
a break and stay with us
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because we're gonna talk about
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the healing
properties of cherries,
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when we return.
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