Welcome back to the
program, I'm Charles Mills.
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We're here with
cardiologist, Dr. James Marcum,
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and today, we're looking
in God's Prescription Book,
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the Bible where some wonderful
gems that we can relate
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to our lives that we can
bring in when we are fearful
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when we don't
now what is going on,
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and we wonder what
the day will bring.
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Here is a
marvelous one, Dr. Marcum,
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I'm going to share that,
put it up on the screen here.
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There it is...
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That's Psalm 41:3
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What wonderful words there!
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Not only is He
going to restore us,
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but while we're there,
while we're on the sickbed,
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God wants to sustain
us there with His love,
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and with the peace that knowing
that God, the Master Physician,
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is involved in our
illness. That's good news!
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Yeah, it is good news, Charles,
and sometimes our physical body
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will be full of disease
and all sorts of problems. Yes
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That doesn't mean our
innards, our soul, our brain
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where God communicates with us
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has to be that way as
well and that's exciting.
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You know what? I
brought something
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and I wanted to show you.
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All right, let's
see what this is...
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That is from my Honda Civic,
that's the car I drive. Okay
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And that is the owner's manual
and I've been trying to take
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care of that car since
2007, and when I drive my car,
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you know, it says I have to do
these things and do these things
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and if I don't do those things,
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there are going to
be consequences. Yes
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And it goes from
everything from the steering
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to the exhaust system, to
how to turn on the lights,
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to the electrical system
and if I do not keep my car
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according to the owner's
manual, things happen. Yes
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You know, like one time I
didn't keep the air in my tire
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filled up - bad
things happened with that.
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It started to wear abnormal
and all sorts of things - bad.
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Now, luckily, I've
been very good about keeping
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gas in the car, but you know,
you have to change the oil...
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There are certain
things you have to do.
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And if you don't do
that, there are consequences
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to your car - it
just doesn't run as well.
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And so I try to stay
by the owner's manual
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and stick by the book
to give my car the optimal
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chance of
functioning as well as possible.
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Well now there you go...
you said something important.
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This is for
optimal functioning. Yes!
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We can get by - by not doing
this, by letting the air go out,
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by letting the oil go...
we can get by for a while.
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But there's going to come a time
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when it's going to
catch up with us...
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And that's what
we do in our lives...
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It seems that we have the
Bible, God's Owner's Manual,
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and we read it and
say, "Oh yeah, that's
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what I should be doing,
but you know, I feel sort of
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okay - it's okay
how I do these things."
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But like mistreating your
car, or mistreating your body,
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it turns around and bites
you pretty substantially. Yeah
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And I think the person
that wrote in talking about the
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stress that she's
noticing in other people,
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I think if we look
around in the world now,
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we see more
stressful situations than ever.
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You know, we think about
the mental stress that people
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are under the media
stress, the food stress;
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we're workaholics, we think
we have to work all the time;
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the smells we're having...
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There are
stressors all around us,
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and yet, we've developed
stressors in this world,
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but are we keeping up
with the anti-stress measures?
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And, that's why I say, Well,
where are the solutions to that?
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And, I don't think that modern
medical world has found that.
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If it was the case,
one in 3 people wouldn't
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have anxieties - we
wouldn't have all the phobias;
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we wouldn't have
post-traumatic stress.
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We wouldn't have
all these things.
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So we have to learn and
practice and help each other
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to have less stress in life.
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And each one of us can do that
as a service to one another.
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We talked a little bit
about things that you can do
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to relax and that,
but another thing that we
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can do that's very valuable,
is what I've tried to do
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in medical practice is - "What
is the real owner's manual?"
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"How are we supposed to live?"
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"How are we supposed
to keep the maintenance
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so things don't
break down?" Right
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I think modern medicine is great
for when things break down.
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You know, maybe we can
get things going again. Yeah
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But how do we keep that
maintained at optimal health?
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And that's why I love
going to the Bible and finding
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Scriptures and reading
them and trying to apply them
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to our lives because all
of these Bible verses as read
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have chemical consequences
even though we can't explain it.
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And the text that comes to my
mind when it comes to stress is
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a text in
Philippians 4:6, and it says,
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"Be anxious about nothing."
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You know, God doesn't want us
to have fear about anything...
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About how we worship Him...
He doesn't want us to have fear.
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About what's going
to happen tomorrow...
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He doesn't want
us to have to fear.
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Where the money
is going to come...
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He doesn't want us to have fear.
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About our health,
about our treatments...
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He doesn't want us
to have these things.
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And you say, "Well, God
doesn't want us to have these
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things but, how does it look?
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How do I move towards that goal?
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And I think the basic
start is in that next book,
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it says, "pray." Pray.
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And then we have to turn it
to God and learn how to pray,
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and what I have been
trying to do in my life is...
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I invite God - I don't try
to do things myself anymore...
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I can't - and then
when I do things for myself,
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and I don't do it, guess
what... I get stressed out.
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And then also it stresses
me out because it moves me down
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to the lower part of the brain,
the selfish part of the brain.
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So if I want to do things out of
love, God has to do it for me,
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so I invite Him to come in and
change me as He chooses to do.
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I submit myself to
You, God, to change me...
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I pray that prayer and you
know, take away the stress.
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I think that's the first
step in my prayer for someone
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that has stress, is
let God do it for you.
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Let God teach you how to move.
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Now, that doesn't
happen all at once.
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You know, you might take one
little step and God might move
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some person from
A to B real quickly.
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We saw that in
the Bible like Paul...
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But sometimes, He moves slowly
over a course of a lifetime
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over small events to
help you come to that.
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But when people are under
stress, realize our God doesn't
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want that - He
knows it's damaging to us;
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it's damaging to our
chemistry; He wants us to pray;
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He wants us to look
for answers from Him...
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That's where the answers are!
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And it might look different
for different people. Yeah
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For you, it might be doing this;
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for someone else,
it might be serving,
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but it's all going to lead
us to loving people and a better
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outcome that we're going
to have if we live this way.
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You know, one of the things
that I've learned in my life is
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when I ask God for something...
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He usually doesn't say yes
or no, He says, "Here's how."
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God is a God of action...
He wants us to get involved
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with what He's
going to do for us. Right!
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And if we say,
"Lord, I need such and such,
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I'm troubled here - I
don't know what to do."
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He says, "Here's how,"
and He says it in the Bible.
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He says, Live by
these principles,
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follow My guidelines, live
by My laws, My commandments
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and you will figure it out!
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It will happen for you
because I have outlined for you
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and in the Bible, I've outlined
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for you how to do what
you want to have happen.
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How do I find
my husband or wife?
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How do I get the
money for such and such?
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How do I choose this job
or that job - what do I do?
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God says, "Well, wait a
minute, let's work together
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on this thing - I don't
want to just lead you around
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by the nose, I want you
to be a part of the answer
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to your own prayer and
I love that fact about God
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because I like to be
involved with things...
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And when He says "Here's
how," I say, "All right, let's
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figure this out - let me do it,
let me at it, and you know what?
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More times than not,
the answer comes eventually.
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And then I can sit
back... that was cool.
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I had a part of this
- God and me together,
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we worked this out and
that makes me feel pretty good.
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Yeah, you know, this was
such an important question
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because so many people have
that as part of their questions.
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You know, I look in at
all the questions we answered
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about heart disease...
well, they're concerned.
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Maybe some people
are even fearful...
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What's going to happen to
me? What am I going to do?
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What's the first step
in the healing process?
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And, it's not necessarily
running to your doctor.
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First, if you're
fearful, talk to God first.
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There's how to do
it, it's in the Bible.
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Here is the place to start. Yeah
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There's real chemical changes
that happen when we do that,
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and now we're
studying the research of people
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that have worship;
the people that have
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relationships with
God; the people that
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learn how to
rest and relax in God.
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There are chemical
benefits, it's now we're finding
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its effects are genetics.
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So there's real
science behind it...
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even though we
can't explain everything.
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Not everything is explainable.
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Charles, I get a lot of people
that write in that are fearful
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about things that have
this situation and say,
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"I went to every
doctor in the world,
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no one knows
what's wrong with me."
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And we have questions
about cancer, advanced cancer.
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No one knows
what's wrong with us,
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and you know,
sometimes a doctor doesn't know
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what's wrong with you
doesn't mean that there's not
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something physically wrong.
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But sometimes, we have
to be our own best doctor.
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And that doesn't mean
that there's not an answer.
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No and it means we have to
look to God for the answers,
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and say, "Listen, I
want You to help me,
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and let me start with prayer,
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and let me start on
the steps to find healing."
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Maybe it won't
happen right away,
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but it will happen in time,
and if modern medicine is a
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part of that, great!
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If lifestyle is a
part of that, great!
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If the way we worship and
think is a part of that, great!
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But sometimes,
healing is a journey,
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it doesn't happen
all at once. Yes, yes
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And sometimes, there is
pain along the way, Charles.
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Don't like that - we
don't have to like it.
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We don't have to say, "Oh
this life is just wonderful,
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God is here and we're
here and everything is happy."
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No, we don't have to like it!
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But God says, "As
long as you're here,
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as long as you have to
suffer through this thing,
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I want to be
part of your solution,
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and we can work together
on these things." I like that.
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All right, here we
go... "I had recent testing
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and all my arteries in my
heart are significantly blocked.
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I want to go the natural
route; some say, "bypass,"
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some say, "chelation,"
others say, "diet and exercise."
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"What is your
opinion on this thing?"
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Yeah, and my opinion on this...
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So many voices coming in at you!
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It's hard to know who
or what to believe. Yeah
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And I would advise this person
just like the last person,
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start with asking God
where they think they should go,
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get some good advice from
good healers - someone that
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as been there before and use
all the elements that you need.
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You know, I advise people
to move towards eating healthy.
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There's strong
science behind that now.
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It changes your chemistry.
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Control the stress in your life.
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If you're having
symptoms that are active,
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that's a great
place for modern medicine.
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Use all of the
modalities out there,
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and learn how to
do it in moderation
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letting God sort of
guide you is what's best
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in your belief
system, what's best for you.
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But, you know, look at
all the different things
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and find out how
weave them together.
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So for some people,
their belief system says,
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"No, I can't do this."
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Well then maybe
shouldn't do that then.
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For me, it would
be chelation therapy.
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You know, chelation
therapy hasn't been shown
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scientifically benefit to
help, so I wouldn't want that.
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But for other people
just the belief in it,
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might be beneficial. Yes
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There the placebo effect,
we call that "healing beliefs."
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So I would look in
all of these modalities.
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I'd find the best, you know,
"Dr. Esselstyn" has done some
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great work about
reversing blockages,
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and he does that with the
whole food plant-based diet.
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He's got strong
words, so does "Dean Ornish"
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in reversing disease, so I
definitely put that at the list.
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But if you're
having active symptoms,
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maybe you need to have
something done right now,
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and that would be what we have
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to offer in modern
medicine to relax the heart.
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We just want to make sure
that we begin by putting our
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lives and our life style in
line with what God had in mind.
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Owner's manual - the
Bible, read Genesis 1,
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and what did God
have in mind for us?
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How were we supposed to live?
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What was our life
supposed to look like,
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to sound like, to feel like?
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How were we
supposed to relate to people?
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How were we supposed to
relate to the animals around us,
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and to the
environment, to the planet?
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All of these are
essential to begin that journey
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of a partnership with
you and God as you make these
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choices and you make
these decisions to fight
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whatever comes into your life.
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We'll take a short
break and when we come back,
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let's do the most wonderful
thing we can for our healing,
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and that is talk to
the Master Physician.
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His office is always
opened, there's no line...
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You're up next. Stay tuned...
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"Be fearful about nothing."
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Unfortunately in our
world that we live in,
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there are lots of
fears, lots of phobias,
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but God doesn't want
this to happen to us.
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And, He wants us to
turn to Him in prayer,
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and unfortunately fear
and anxiety, it's part of
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every illness, but I
want to encourage you to try
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to move forward
and turn it to God.
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This will help our chemistry.
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This will turn down the
stress that we all have in us.
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It is very important
that we do these things.
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It's not easy - all
of us, we have fears,
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we have
anxieties, we have things,
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but once we realize that
this is not good for our body,
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this is not good for our
health, that's the first step,
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and the next step, as we saw
today, is let's turn it to God,
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and let Him teach us.
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Let's turn our lives over to Him
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and let Him change
us one-step-at-a-time.
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Let's pray together...
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Dear Father God, We
want to turn our fears
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and anxieties over to you.
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Teach us - teach us how
to be fearful about nothing,
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and improve our
health is our prayer... Amen
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We want to thank you
for joining us today.
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If you have anymore questions,
please feel free to go to our
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website...
heartwiseministries.org
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