Welcome back to the
program, I'm Charles Mills
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here with Dr. James
Marcum, a cardiologist,
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and we're talking
about heart health today.
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and we want to
have a strong heart,
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we don't want to have a
weak heart and there are things
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we can do - Dr. Marcum is making
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it very clear that
there are things we can do
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to help weak
hearts become strong.
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One of the things we can
do apparently, according to
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God's Prescription
Pad which is the Bible,
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is this and this is
found in Psalm 34:19,
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Psalm 34:19, up on the
screen there - it says...
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Isn't that good news
for anyone with a weak heart
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or any kind of
weakness anywhere in their body?
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Well that would definitely
fit the definition of trouble
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that would count as a trouble,
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He delivers them
all, but you know what?
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He doesn't say
how He delivers them,
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and He doesn't say when
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He's going to deliver.
Interesting - interesting...
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You know, so those are things
that He's going to deliver us,
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and we can have faith and
hope in that, but when and how
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sometimes we have to
work through those things.
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The fact that He is
going to deliver us is a given.
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When and how, we
need to have faith,
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and God will do it in
His time and in His way.
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Yeah, that's exactly right,
Charles, but these are such
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encouraging in
biblical Scriptures that give us
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technology that changes
us and I've been doing some
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exciting research
into how the mind...
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and how trust in
God and belief in God,
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and belief in His healing power.
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That in itself
has chemical benefits
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that we're not able
to quantitate for now,
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but it actually helps
in the healing process,
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and you gotta
believe and we know that
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the belief system helps so
much and we know that people
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that go to church - they
live longer than other people.
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It's multifactorial
- their belief in God,
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their relationship
with God, the community.
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There's so many things
that we don't understand
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about modern medicine,
but what does make sense
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to me is we go to the Scriptures
like we've been doing.
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As we add this to the
treatment regimen as well as the
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prevention regimen, we're
really getting at some very
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secrets that the Creator knows
even though we don't understand.
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We have to still
try to apply them.
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So while we're waiting
for God to do whatever it is
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that God is going to do,
whenever God is going to do it,
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while we're waiting for
that, we have a job to do...
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And that is to do
everything we can in our power
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and those are the practical
things we're talking about
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here on this
program week after week...
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is how can we live,
how can we make choices
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that can bring about
God's healing and help Him
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do His work in us.
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Yeah and I guess we can
call those "natural remedies."
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Natural remedies -
absolutely! Natural remedies!
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Okay, we're dealing
with questions here about
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weak hearts from the
heartwiseministries.org website,
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and here's one:
"Does a defibrillator
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make a heart stronger?"
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Or is it like a
Band-Aid? Is it a cover-up?
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Does it actually
make it stronger?
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Now we have not defibrillators
for long periods of time. Right
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And, we found out in cardiology
that when an ejection fraction
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that we've talked
about was below 35%,
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a person was more prone
to dangerous heart rhythms.
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And the dangerous heart rhythms
can really kill you right away
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because you can't
generate blood pressure,
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it's the ones you
shock and it's a big issue.
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So, I'm going to give you
this to hold, Charles. All right
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Medical science came up
with these defibrillators
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that we put in people's
hearts and the defibrillators...
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Actually the wires and
the leads go in the heart,
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and these
defibrillators can sense every
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dangerous heart rhythm you have.
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And if you have one of
these dangerous heart rhythms
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that come from a weak
heart, it can not only sense it,
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but shock the heart
back into a normal rhythm.
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Is it battery
operated, I'm assuming?
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Yeah, there's a
battery in there,
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and also has a
pacemaker as well in that. Okay
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And, it can handle the dangerous
rhythms and we check them
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periodically to make
sure the battery is good,
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make sure the
leads are working there.
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Now sometimes, if a person
has abnormal wires in the heart,
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there are some things that
we can do with this called,
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"resynchronization."
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That's a big word that
means we just try to get
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the heart to
squeeze a little bit better.
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And that can actually
help the heart do a little bit
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better as far as strength goes.
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So, if a person has what we
call a "bundle branch block,"
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where the signals
take longer to get through,
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there are some that
we can do to tweak this
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to help the heart
work more efficiently...
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so in some cases, it can help
make the heart beat stronger.
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But in most cases, this is
used as an insurance policy.
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And you do that from outside,
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you don't go digging in
there and bring it back out.
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No, it's all
programmed from outside...
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A little
wireless thing happening.
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Yeah, a wireless
thing happening is right.
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But these have helped
save many lives because people
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with a weak heart usually
die from the rhythm problem.
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They don't die from the
heart being weak necessarily.
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But it's like having
insurance, I tell them it's like
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having an ambulance
with your 24/7. Yes, yes
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If any of these
dangerous rhythms happen,
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boom - you have
your ambulance with you.
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It can shock the
heart, it can pace the heart.
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So defibrillators in
some instances can make it
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a little bit
stronger, but in most instances,
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it's there just to
prevent disaster from happening.
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Just like insurance, you know,
you don't plan on your house
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burning down, but if
you have that insurance,
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you have some protection.
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When you have this
installed in your body,
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and it goes off,
what does it feel like?
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I've never had it go off in me,
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but patients say, "It feels like
mule kicking you in the chest."
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BOOM! A big
jump! A big hit! Wow!
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But before we had that big
mule kicking you in the chest,
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getting your
heart back to rhythm,
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those patients would die
young, so it's really a great
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technology. I'd
rather have the mule.
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It really is a great technology
for people with weak hearts,
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so defibrillators, in some
instances, they make the heart
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stronger, but
they're always a great idea
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if you have a dangerous rhythm.
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All right, very good.
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Another question here
from heartwiseministries.org
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"I was told I have
diastolic dysfunction,
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and this is the reason I
have fluid buildup in my lungs,
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does this mean I
have a weak heart?"
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Well no, it does not, Charles,
and there are different types
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of heart failure,
you know, one is called,
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"a weak pump," that's "asystole"
that's a pumping problem.
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"Diastole" is when
the heart relaxes...
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So if you have heart failure,
if the heart doesn't relax well,
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you can also have
problems through it...,
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and we call that
"diastolic dysfunction."
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The heart doesn't
know how to relax,
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and there are certain
conditions that can cause that.
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The most common one that I see
is probably high blood pressure.
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Sometimes aging can
cause the heart not to relax.
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Of course, abnormal rhythms,
the heart can't relax well.
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Lots of things
can cause diastolic.
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The heart is
perfectly strong, it pumps good,
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but it doesn't relax
and it takes relaxing
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to fill up the blood,
and then it takes pumping.
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So as there are 2 parts of
getting the blood everywhere,
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the actual strength of the heart
that pumps it during systole,
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that's the
squeezing part, and it relaxes
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so it can fill
up with blood. Okay
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Now if it can't relax
and fill up with blood,
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"we have a problem Houston."
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So it doesn't mean
you have a weak heart,
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and unfortunately advances
in diastolic dysfunction
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to relaxing hasn't been as
strong has it has in systole
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in modern medicine.
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What are some thing naturally
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we can do that will help that?
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Well, anything that
we can do to eat better,
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that's going to
help the arteries better.
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An exercise program
helps the heart relax more.
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Getting adequate rest -
some people have sleep apnea,
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and they don't
get adequate rest,
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their heart doesn't relax well.
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Controlling heart rhythms
- that will help the heart.
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Sometimes just slowing
down the heart, if you have
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the heart going too
fast will help it have
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more time to fill up.
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So these are all little
things, but a lot of people say,
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"I have heart failure,"
and the first thing when they
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have heart failure, I
say, "Is it due to the strength
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or the filling?"
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And of it's due to
the strength of the heart,
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we go down this
route; if it can't fill well,
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we go down this other route...
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But treatment is very different
from each one of those.
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All right, very good.
Here's a question here...
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You've covered a
little bit about this.
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Let's cover it a little bit more
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because I think
this is important.
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"What prescription medication
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start the heart
becoming stronger?"
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Now, these
medicines that we're given,
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they keep us alive - do
they actually make the heart
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stronger or is it
an artificial strong?
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No, they have done the
studies and there are certain
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classes of medicines that make
the ejection increase. Right
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And let me explain the
physiology behind it...
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We do have
medicines that can block
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discrete chemical pathways.
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That's called "reductionalism,"
we focus on one pathway,
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but, of course, it's better
to affect all the chemistry.
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And that's why these natural
remedies change chemistries
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all over the place that
we can't even understand
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that helps the
heart, but we have some
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principles that
will help us block.
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For instance,
when a heart is weak,
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the body responds by making
the stress hormone "adrenalin,"
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also other
chemical hormones are made.
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But we have certain
medicines that can block those
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because if they're
made under high amounts,
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it actually
makes the heart weaker.
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Adrenalin is one of
them; we have Angiotensin;
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we have different ones
that block different chemicals.
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And we actually can give those
and the benefits to the patient
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in making the heart
stronger outweigh the
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risk of the medicines.
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Now of course, we have
to monitor them very closely
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to make sure they're
not having side effects.
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Is this the only way to
make a heart stronger? No
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But it has been scientifically
proven in double-blind studies
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that patients with weak hearts
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benefit from being
on these medicines.
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In fact, everyone
that audits charts now,
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if you have a weak heart,
they want to make sure you're on
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a beta blocker
and an ACE inhibitor,
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the ones that
have been studied...
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And there's other
medicines like Aldactone,
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other things that
can help the heart too.
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Now, someday we're
going to have studies on
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the natural remedies that
changes the entire chemistry
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to help the heart, but
until then some medicines
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do help the heart, but
I prefer using everything
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including finding out
the cause to help my person
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strengthen their heart as
long as they're not having
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side effects or if
they don't believe in it.
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Some people have very
strong beliefs, Charles,
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that they don't
believe medicines help them.
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They believe it's hurting them.
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That belief, in
itself, negates sometimes
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the benefit of the medicine.
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So I have to spend
some time explaining this...
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it has been
scientifically proven,
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as long as you
don't have a side effect,
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I think this medicine
would be beneficial to you,
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but if a person has a belief
system and they're going to be
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stressed out about that,
that's going to counteract
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mentally with the
medicines I'm giving them.
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The people that worry about
this and I can understand why,
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should we come at this as
modern medicine is the answer,
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should we come at it as
modern medicine is an answer
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or should we come at it as
modern medicine is a failure
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of everything else, so
we might as well use it?
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No, it's a supplement to
helping a disease system.
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Modern medicine is a supplement.
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It's a supplement to what
we should be doing all along,
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and then sometimes
modern medicine is lifesaving
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because we
haven't done things right.
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For instance, when the
heart gets weaker, Charles,
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we can actually transplant
and put a new heart in.
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We actually have artificial
hearts that can be done,
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and some people they
were exposed to a bad virus,
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and it makes their heart weak.
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We had one
called, "Chagas disease,"
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their heart gets weak.
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Well there's nothing sometimes
we can do with the medicines
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the heart gets
weaker and weaker.
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If we don't get a
new heart in, they die.
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So this has been a great
place for modern medicine,
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and no matter what they
would do with lifestyle,
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they couldn't... you
know, they picked up the virus.
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You know, it's
a tough situation.
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Some people are exposed to other
things that make the heart weak,
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so there is a place for
modern medicine to supplement
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if we need it with everything
that we can do on our own.
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Are we talking about a minority
of people that have this
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can't do anything else to help
thyself - so I've got to use
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modern medicine... is that a
minority or majority of people?
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No, most people can find
things that they can do to help
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themselves if
they learn about it,
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and are willing
to make these steps.
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All right, very good.
It's very important that we
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put modern
medicine in the right place,
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and that we put lifestyle
issues in the right place,
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and we don't depend on one
to do the work of the other
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because they don't work so well.
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Modern medicine is
wonderful under acute situations
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as Dr. Marcum made
it clear many times,
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but for chronic situations,
you gotta go with natural...
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And that seems to
be what works best.
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We'll take a short
break and when we come back,
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we're going to talk
to the Master Physician
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about what works best for
us and that's communication
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with that Master Physician,
so stay right where you are...
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I hope you've learned something
today about having a weak heart,
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and I hope no one out
there has a weak heart,
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but if you do, there is help.
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And, I want to
review a couple of things...
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First, find out
why your heart is weak,
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do everything you can to
help yourself get better.
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We talked about some
of these natural remedies,
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and use modern
medicine when appropriate.
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Let's say a
prayer for each other...
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Father God, We
want to pray that our
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hearts be right with Your
heart, and Father, help us to
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improve our health every
day as we love each other
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and serve each other,
and get ready for You to
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come home and take us
home to be with You, Father
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when all of our hearts
are going to be made perfect.
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Thank You for being a
God that loves us so much
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is our prayer... Amen
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If you might have a question,
you can go to our website:
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heartwiseministries.org
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We also have a prayer
where we can pray for each other
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and we can take care
of each other as we are
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in a great
community of believers.
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I want to thank you
for joining us today,
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and I want to wish
you the best of health!
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