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00:16 I once saw a video of a man who hooked up a sound
00:20 system that amplified the beating of his heart.
00:22 Then, he danced to the rhythm.
00:25 That's something we all can do as long as there's rhythm.
00:29 Stay tuned...
00:31 I'm Dr. James Marcum,
00:33 are you interested in discovering the reason why?
00:36 Do you want solutions to your healthcare problem?
00:39 Are you tired of taking medications?
00:42 Well, you're about to be given the "Ultimate Prescription"
00:47 Arrhythmia, atrial fibrillation, supraventricular tachycardia...
00:54 If your doctor has been tossing these words around with you,
00:57 you might want to pay particular attention to today's program.
01:00 We're talking rhythm and your ability to dance
01:03 the dance of life.
01:05 Dr. Marcum, we're addressing questions sent into the
01:07 heartwiseministries.org website today,
01:10 and the first one was simply, "What is arrhythmia?"
01:13 What do we need to know?
01:15 Well Charles, an arrhythmia means an abnormal heart beat.
01:20 So any time I want to classify something as abnormal,
01:25 I can call it an arrhythmia.
01:27 That would account the abnormal rhythms that comes from the
01:30 top part of the heart, that would come from the
01:33 abnormal rhythms that come from the
01:34 bottom part of the heart that would include a heart
01:38 that's going too slow.
01:39 That would even include a heart that skips.
01:42 All of those we could classify as an arrhythmia.
01:45 What as a normal rhythm of the heart,
01:48 we call that "normal sinus rhythm."
01:51 So I found in your introduction very interesting how
01:54 a person could hear his own heart.
01:57 And, you know, I brought this, a lot of people...
02:00 we used to use these a lot, Charles.
02:02 I'm going to let you hold this for a second.
02:04 Do you know what that is?
02:05 Don't you use that for tuning the piano or something.
02:07 Yes, well not tuning the piano but what we'd use is this sound
02:10 that's exactly what we'd use it for...
02:12 We use it to test people's hearing. Okay
02:15 For we would put it here and put it up next to your ear.
02:18 Now you have to sit back, sit back and relax Charles.
02:21 So I'd hit it here. I hear that. No, no, I know it.
02:24 Do you still hear it? Yep, yep.
02:26 Does it seem to sound about the same here?
02:29 Yes it does... We can do that and we can
02:30 also put it up behind your ear.
02:33 Do you feel that vibrating there? I do, I do
02:35 And then I put it behind the other ear,
02:37 and if you felt that vibrating, then you would know
02:40 that your neurology part of that part of the body,
02:43 the hearing part, is in pretty good shape. Okay?
02:47 Now what does that have to do with rhythms?
02:50 Can you hear your rhythm? Can you feel your rhythm?
02:53 Well, you know, a lot of songs have rhythms to it.
02:58 Hearing, sounds, rhythms, rhythms of the heart,
03:03 I think it all sort of goes together.
03:05 The heart singing a song when it's in rhythm,
03:08 and when it's in rhythm everything works together.
03:10 When it's out of rhythm, things don't work good.
03:13 When the top is going too fast, it beats like that...
03:16 When the bottom is going too fast,
03:18 it can't generate a blood pressure.
03:20 So the rhythms of life just like we want to hear these
03:23 good rhythms coming from our
03:24 heart, because it affects everything...
03:26 So just like a tuning fork, you want to hear
03:29 the things coming from that to know you have good hearing.
03:31 So the rhythm of your heart is basically a heart in tune,
03:34 a heart that is okay, gotcha.
03:37 It's running good, everything is working good,
03:40 and it comes from - just like this is part of our
03:43 neurologic system; the rhythms of the heart
03:45 has some neurological properties as well to that,
03:48 and the signals move down these little wires.
03:51 It's very interesting how God made it; depends on how
03:53 sodium and potassium and magnesium move in and out of
03:57 cells - it can have genetic abnormalities;
04:00 it could have abnormalities that we cause it to have as well.
04:03 So understanding rhythms of the heart is something
04:06 very important because almost all people at some point
04:09 has felt their heart not do what's right. Yes
04:11 They felt it skip or go too fast or...
04:13 how do I know what to worry about?
04:15 When is it dangerous?
04:16 When should I seek medical attention?
04:18 These are all things that we want to talk about.
04:20 I've noticed that sometimes when I'm taking a medication
04:24 my heart will do that.
04:26 It's kind of scary because you realize you have one heart,
04:29 and you are depending on that one heart to get you
04:32 through life and if that one heart starts acting up,
04:35 it kind of frightens you and I guess probably the fear
04:39 of that is not good for the heart,
04:41 and so there becomes a cycle that begins to develop there.
04:44 There is this arrhythmia and that scares me which causes
04:47 more arrhythmia which scares me... there you go!
04:49 Right, it can self-perpetuate so you feel a skipped
04:53 heartbeat and then you get more scared and your body
04:55 makes more adrenalin and the adrenalin stimulates
04:58 another heartbeat to skip.
04:59 And sometimes the heart rhythms are in there genetically
05:03 and, I like to say, they're asleep.
05:05 You know, they're just sleeping there.
05:06 Even though your genes for that rhythm might
05:08 be there, they're asleep.
05:09 They have lots of blankets on that rhythm,
05:11 they're sleeping nice and then sometimes, in our lives,
05:14 we do things that take the cover off and we actually
05:16 wake those rhythms up.
05:18 What are things that wake up abnormal rhythms?
05:20 Low on potassium, lots of fear can cause skips,
05:25 having thyroid abnormalities, having lots of pain in the body.
05:29 Basically anything that causes stress that we've talked about
05:33 can stimulate the heart to skip - to mess up the rhythms,
05:37 these naturally rhythms of our heart that we want to have,
05:39 it can cause the stress and it can cause it to skip
05:43 and it can wake up genetically abnormal rhythms as well.
05:45 Is there any time that arrhythmia
05:47 is actually a good thing?
05:48 Well, there's a normal rhythm, like I say, if you have an
05:51 infection and the heart needs to pump more blood,
05:53 it can speed up naturally and that's a natural speeding up.
05:57 Because if you're sitting there quietly,
05:58 but you have an infection, your heart rate may go up... Yes
06:01 because of xxxxx xxxxxxx infection... Pump more blood... uh huh
06:02 If you're scared and need to run,
06:04 you know, you're fighting a battle,
06:06 you know, let's say me and you have little tussle
06:09 later on in the show... Never!
06:10 And we start and you know, then your heart would speed up
06:13 so you could defend yourself.
06:15 You're gonna hit me? No, no I'm not...
06:17 But that's a normal stress response,
06:20 and a normal stress response is good.
06:22 An abnormal stress response is not good. Oh okay
06:25 So an arrhythmia is any slow heartbeat, fast heartbeat,
06:29 skip heartbeat that's not normal, we can lump that
06:32 into this term called, "an arrhythmia."
06:35 All right, very good, we're looking at questions
06:37 from heartwiseministries.org on the rhythm of the heart
06:41 and here is another one...
06:42 What are some of the symptoms
06:45 of an abnormal electrical system.
06:49 We have an electrical system... Yes
06:50 And that electrical system really is
06:52 where the rhythm comes from. Okay
06:53 And on the top we have a battery called the "sinoatrial node,"
06:58 and then it travels down to wires called the "AV node,"
07:01 and then there's a delay and it goes out through wires
07:04 to the ventricle and then when the signal gets there
07:06 the heart squeezes.
07:07 This is in the heart - all in the heart,
07:09 all these electrical signals.
07:10 So that's really what we call the "electrical system."
07:12 It's how the signals pass that generates
07:15 the squeezing of the heart.
07:17 We can measure that on EKGs,
07:19 we can measure it on monitors, there's lots of ways
07:22 we could measure it, but this person asked about
07:25 symptoms. Yes
07:26 Well, let's be logical about it.
07:28 If a heart is pumping too slow, we're not getting enough
07:33 blood to the body and if we're not getting enough blood
07:36 to the body, we might feel tired;
07:39 we might feel fatigued.
07:41 If we don't get enough blood to the brain,
07:43 we might pass out or get dizzy.
07:47 When we do something, our heart might not
07:49 speed up fast enough, so we might get short of breath.
07:53 Those are all very common symptoms of slow heart rhythms.
07:57 The heart is going too slow and it won't speed up.
08:00 Fast heart rhythms - okay, if it's going fast,
08:03 usually people can feel it going fast.
08:05 They get short of breath because the heart can't pump blood
08:08 as efficiently.
08:09 Sometimes their blood pressure goes down,
08:11 they get tired and dizzy.
08:14 Sometimes they even feel like their heart is jumping out of
08:17 them and they have chest pain when it's going so fast.
08:19 It can feel like a normal thumping.
08:22 So, those are all some feelings that the electrical system
08:25 might not be well... a feeling of going fast,
08:28 getting dizzy, passing out, unusually tired,
08:31 unusually short of breath... all of these could be
08:34 signs that the electrical system is malfunctioning.
08:37 Can you fix the electrical system?
08:39 Well you can help the electrical system,
08:41 and it's like anything that we've talked about
08:43 over and over... if you can find out what's
08:45 causing the problem, then you're going to be
08:47 successful in treating it.
08:49 For instance, if a stimulant is causing the heart to go out of
08:52 rhythm or go too fast...
08:54 Like coffee, caffeine... Yeah!
08:56 ... then let's get rid of that. Okay, okay
08:57 You know, if a thyroid is underactive,
08:59 sometimes the heart can go too slow.
09:02 Sometimes medicines can make the heart go too slow.
09:06 But most of the time, when the heart is going
09:08 too slow, it's because the conduction system,
09:11 these wires have gradually gotten old,
09:13 they're sort of worn out or the batters are worn out,
09:16 and there's not much we can do about that
09:18 except give them a device called a "pacemaker." Yeah
09:22 Now, when the heart goes too fast, there could be things
09:25 that wake that rhythm up, but then sometimes
09:28 these rhythms are genetically there.
09:30 We can destroy those.
09:32 The most frequent rhythms that I see in the office
09:34 includes "atrial fibrillation."
09:36 That's where the top part goes faster than the bottom part.
09:40 We see that on many different types of conditions.
09:42 And the other one we see frequently is "skipped beats."
09:46 People say, "My heart is skipping, I feel a thump,
09:49 and then nothing happens."
09:50 And for that type of rhythm, we try to find out,
09:52 "Well, what is stimulating that extra beat,
09:55 what is the stressor that's causing that to happen?"
09:57 And frequently, it might be something as simple as
09:59 caffeine.
10:01 I see it a lot in people that don't get enough rest.
10:03 They get sleep apnea, that happens!
10:05 That's another cause of arrhythmia.
10:06 You don't get enough blood, it puts stress of the system,
10:08 the heart can start beating abnormally.
10:10 So these are sort of our approach,
10:12 but those are sort of the symptoms that comes
10:15 when you have an abnormal
10:16 electrical system. All right, very good.
10:18 Another question from heartwiseministries.org
10:21 Is atrial fibrillation the same as supraventricular tachycardia?
10:27 Yeah, and that is a very important question, Charles,
10:30 and it's a great question because they can almost feel
10:34 the same, but the treatments are vastly different.
10:37 Atrial fibrillation, remember we talked about that's
10:40 where the heart, the top, is just beating randomly,
10:42 it can't get the blood to the bottom very good,
10:45 it feels about the same as this other one called,
10:47 "supraventricular tachycardia."
10:49 Supraventricular tachycardia is a rhythm that usually
10:52 comes from one spot where the heartbeats regular,
10:55 but it goes very, very fast, so it feels the same.
10:58 Now how would we tell what rhythm it is - usually is
11:01 with the monitor or an EKG, then we could see the beats
11:04 on the heart and say, "Well that's atrial fibrillation,
11:07 or that's supraventricular tachycardia."
11:09 Supraventricular tachycardia we can get that sometimes
11:13 to go away just by doing maneuvers that stimulate
11:16 the part of our body called, "the vagal nervous system."
11:20 If you had SVT and rubbed your neck real slowly,
11:22 that could break that rhythm, or if you bared down
11:25 like you had to go to the bathroom, that could turn
11:27 off that arrhythmia.
11:29 And if we can't turn it off, that's one rhythm that seems
11:32 to be a genetic rhythm that we can actually go up
11:34 and we can see where that small pathway is and we can
11:37 destroy that so that person doesn't have
11:39 to have that ever again.
11:41 Whereas atrial fibrillation, we have to look at all
11:44 the different causes of atrial fibrillation
11:46 including high blood pressure, sleep apnea, thyroid disease,
11:50 heart disease, valve disease, many things can cause it,
11:53 and treatment would be to try to get it back in rhythm
11:56 or at least to slow it down and consider a blood thinner,
11:59 because if it's out of rhythm all the time,
12:02 there's a chance that it could form a stroke.
12:04 In fact, it's estimated that 1 in every 3 strokes is from
12:07 atrial fibrillation where they are not taking a blood thinner.
12:11 So it's scary - did that answer that question? It did
12:13 I think so and... It's not the same,
12:15 these aren't the same rhythms, we have to differentiate
12:17 because the treatments are so different.
12:18 How do you know... this person wants to know,
12:21 "How do I know if I need a pacemaker?"
12:22 I mean, if these things are happening,
12:24 the rhythms are being weird,
12:25 is it time for a pacemaker automatically?
12:27 Well let me answer that question by you about a patient
12:30 of mine... I had a patient that came in the other day,
12:32 and he said, "You know what, I'm tired a lot."
12:35 "Okay, I'm just tired."
12:36 And the first thing I said, "Well, are you dizzy?"
12:39 He said, "Yeah sometimes I get a little dizzy when I'm doing
12:42 things and when I do things, I get short of breath
12:44 real quickly."
12:45 So I said, "Well there are quite a few
12:47 heart things that can do that," and I looked at his EKG
12:49 and it was going 38 beats per minute.
12:52 Okay, well that's okay if it's speeds up when you're doing it.
12:55 I said, "Well let's send you home on a monitor."
12:58 So he wore that monitor and I noticed that he was
13:01 having slow heart rate all the time, even when he did things,
13:04 and sometimes in the middle of the night...
13:06 No wonder he was tired. Yeah
13:07 Sometimes in the middle of the night, it went down to 20.
13:10 So his heart wasn't going fast enough to supply the
13:12 blood supply and the oxygen that every tissue needed.
13:16 So, in this gentleman, his conduction system
13:19 had gradually gotten older, things just don't
13:21 work as well and he was a candidate for a pacemaker.
13:25 So he received a pacemaker and guess what?
13:27 His symptoms have now improved dramatically.
13:29 So now he can do things and he doesn't get tired.
13:32 His blood pressure is not quite as perfect
13:34 as your normal rhythm, but it's a dramatic
13:36 improvement - you know, he went from about a 35 to 70,
13:40 so increased his cardiac output by 100%.
13:43 So you get more blood around to all your organs,
13:46 you're going to feel a lot better than if it's
13:47 going slow all the time.
13:49 And nothing he could eat or no amount of exercise
13:51 or type of exercise would have altered that at all.
13:53 Not for him, no. In fact, sometimes the parts
13:58 wear out and need to be replaced,
13:59 and that was the case with him. We live in a world of sin.
14:02 The part just got old, but luckily, this is something
14:04 that we could do for him because if we couldn't do it,
14:06 eventually he'd fall down and hurt himself,
14:08 or eventually his heart would just stop
14:10 and he would pass away.
14:12 You know, what's hard though Charles, is occasionally
14:14 people get very old and we have to put a pacemaker.
14:18 That's a much harder decision. All right, very good.
14:20 We'll have more good questions
14:22 from heartwiseministries.org and a Bible text for you,
14:25 so stay right where you are.


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