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Health on Solid Ground

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Charles Mills & James Marcum

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Series Code: UP

Program Code: UP00004A


00:01 The following program presents principles
00:02 designed to promote good health
00:04 and is not intended to take
00:05 the place of personalized professional care.
00:07 The opinions and ideas expressed
00:09 are those of the speaker.
00:10 Viewers are encouraged to draw their own conclusions
00:13 about the information presented.
00:16 You know, the next time you need
00:17 a powerful medicine to fight a disease.
00:19 You might want to start by the produce section
00:22 of the grocery store. Stay tuned.
00:26 I'm Dr. James Marcum.
00:28 Are you interested in discovering the reason
00:31 why you want solutions to your health care problems?
00:35 Are you tired of taking medications?
00:37 Well, you're about to be given the ultimate prescription.
00:43 On the third day of creation week,
00:45 God did something truly amazing.
00:47 He made it possible for this world to become
00:50 a treasure trove of disease fighting medicines.
00:54 It was and is all part of God's health plan.
00:57 Dr. Marcum, you're Cardiologist.
01:00 You often use pharmaceuticals to combat heart disease.
01:03 Does God offer viable alternatives
01:06 to all these pharmaceuticals
01:08 that you're offering to your patients?
01:09 Yeah, and what we want people to understand
01:12 that the most important thing
01:13 we can do is not need all these medicines we're taking.
01:18 Now lot of these medicines were derived
01:20 from plants at the very beginning. Yeah.
01:23 In fact there is a whole industry now
01:25 where they look at the plants and they extract substances
01:28 that might be beneficial to our body, these nutraceuticals,
01:31 and they made a whole industry of taking this
01:33 and giving these supplements, we've seen this.
01:35 And it helps, you know, different things
01:37 like antioxidants and different chemicals
01:40 we have that have helped
01:41 fight different diseases like inflammation.
01:43 So really God did give us
01:45 many different things to help fight disease.
01:47 But I want people to think of the nutrition
01:50 as a way to prevent disease.
01:51 In previous programs we talked about,
01:54 if you don't get good air, you body is damaged.
01:57 It put stress on the system. Yeah.
01:59 If you don't get good water, enough water,
02:01 that put stress on the system
02:03 and these chemical reactions occur.
02:05 Similarly if we don't put good fuel in our body,
02:08 if we don't eat good--right,
02:10 that also put stress on our body.
02:13 Back at creation, you know,
02:14 the original diet, the original God diet was one,
02:17 as you look in Genesis, the biblical technology says
02:21 let's have, you know, a plant based diet.
02:24 You know fruits, vegetables, nuts, and grains.
02:27 That was the best diet that was given to us
02:30 way back at creation. Yeah.
02:31 And now science is proving that people
02:33 that can move towards that diet are healthier.
02:36 They have less heart attacks.
02:38 And they can reverse cardiovascular disease.
02:40 They feel better, less chance of becoming overweight. Yes.
02:44 And you know, overweight,
02:45 now there are 60% of people are overweight,
02:47 that's a major stress in America.
02:49 And I was recently reading an article
02:51 that comes from, you know,
02:52 people that are overweight and all the damaged organs
02:55 that we have from not eating well.
02:56 If you think about not sleeping well,
02:58 they get sleep apnea, headaches, heart attacks,
03:02 high blood pressure, diabetes, joint pains,
03:05 problem sleeping at night, depression,
03:08 all these things can be tracked back to our diet,
03:11 not eating the right foods.
03:13 Now three or four hundred years ago,
03:15 our society just did not have these problems.
03:18 So as part of good medical treatment
03:20 we want to get back to this biblical technology
03:23 of putting in our bodies what designed us
03:25 to so we can run more efficiently.
03:27 You know I was reading something the other day
03:30 about pharmaceuticals and you wonder--
03:34 what you say is absolutely right
03:36 that pharmaceuticals used to be basically plants
03:38 and they would give them plants and they would feel better.
03:41 But why don't they do that anymore?
03:45 The reason is because you can't register
03:49 and you can't copy write a food.
03:51 You can't broccoli and make it a copyrighted element.
03:57 You have to do something to it.
03:58 That you can copyright.
04:00 So what they do is they take the plants
04:02 that God gave us and they synthesize them.
04:06 They make versions of them.
04:09 They go in and they change them just enough,
04:12 so now I can copyright that.
04:14 Now it's called XYZ medicine as opposed to broccoli.
04:19 So, okay, why don't we just simply eat the broccoli?
04:25 It's a lot cheaper and it's a lot better for us.
04:28 So the pharmaceuticals again
04:30 there's a place for modern medicine,
04:31 there's a place where we need pharmaceuticals.
04:33 But you know, the God gave us
04:34 the pharmaceuticals that don't cost a lot of money,
04:36 we can grow in our backyard
04:38 and we can enjoy the rich benefits
04:40 that God had in mind and even
04:42 when we simply eat the pharmaceuticals
04:44 that he created for us on this day of creation.
04:47 And you know what it gets me, Charles, is--
04:49 that you see the supplemental business going on,
04:51 all these supplements, everything.
04:53 And I admit if you don't,
04:54 if you're not able to eat fruits, vegetables,
04:56 and nuts, and grains or your endures,
04:57 you might need some supplements. Yes.
04:59 However the food that God gave us
05:03 is so much more bioavailable
05:05 that means it gets absorbed better. Yes.
05:07 You know, our body was made to handle these
05:09 and not all these substances are wrapped
05:11 in special delivery packages.
05:13 I was recently there's a documentary--
05:17 I saw not too long ago,
05:18 "Forks over Knives," have you seen that?
05:19 Oh, yes, Oh, amazing.
05:21 It's a wonderful piece.
05:23 And on that study they had T. Colin Campbell,
05:25 who wrote the book "The China Study."
05:28 That goes back and really proves scientifically
05:31 how important our nutrition is and how as we've gotten away
05:34 from this as a society,
05:36 all the rise in diseases that we've seen.
05:39 And you know, we've seen increasing rates
05:41 of cardiovascular disease, increasing rates of cancer.
05:45 We've also seen some infections.
05:46 You know, you look at all these infections
05:48 that we've gone up and more than that the big epidemic
05:51 that we gonna have now, you know, in United States
05:55 and perhaps the whole world is this epidemic
05:57 of being overweight. Oh, my God.
05:59 And the chemistry that extra weight causes.
06:01 Charles, do you know what they call extra weight?
06:04 You know what they call that?
06:05 Now you've told me, this is scary stuff.
06:06 Yes, yes, yes. This is very scary stuff.
06:07 They have actually given it a name--
06:08 Yes, yes, just a bit.
06:10 They call it the Endocannabinoid System.
06:13 Yeah. So you, when you have extra weight
06:15 you have the endocannabinoid system
06:16 around your waist or wherever it might be. Yeah.
06:19 And this system wants to stay alive.
06:21 It makes chemicals, Charles that makes
06:24 the inflammatory marks go up.
06:26 It makes chemicals that make you more hungry
06:28 and eat the wrong foods.
06:29 It makes you depressed.
06:31 It makes you more likely to get diabetes
06:33 and high blood pressure, do not sleep well at night.
06:36 It literally wants to keep itself alive.
06:38 But when it makes these chemicals,
06:40 the real solution, guess what,
06:42 is not to, is just turn off the system.
06:44 Now what we've done
06:46 is we've created a bunch of medicines.
06:47 Well, if your blood sugar is high, let's give a medicine.
06:49 If your blood pressure is high, let's give a medicine.
06:52 You know, if you can't sleep at night
06:54 let's give a medicine.
06:55 If your joints hurt because you carrying an extra weight,
06:57 let's give a medicine.
06:58 But that's not always the solution to this problem.
07:01 And you know, if you're banging Charles,
07:03 if you keep hitting your head against the wall
07:05 and, you know, your head started hurting,
07:07 you would go to doctor and says, you know,
07:09 I'm gonna give you a pain medicine.
07:10 So that will make the pain not as bad.
07:13 But the real solution is to quit
07:15 banging your head on the wall.
07:16 Stop banging your head. Yes.
07:17 So in getting back to this epidemic crisis
07:20 we're gonna have and all the diseases
07:21 that we see related to being heavy,
07:24 the real solution is to get this weight off of us
07:27 and the real solution is eating better,
07:29 getting back to a plant based diet.
07:30 I want to recommend that documentary
07:32 "Forks over Knives" to everyone and "The China Study,"
07:35 if you wanna learn about good nutrition.
07:37 But I want the point that,
07:38 I want our listeners to really and our viewers
07:40 to really understand today is this,
07:43 that your nutrition causes disease.
07:46 Your nutrition is also a treatment for disease.
07:49 And you're not gonna hear
07:50 about that in the textbooks all the time.
07:53 You know, we talked about that with air and water,
07:55 but you can treat yourself and also harm yourself
07:57 by the things you put in your body.
07:59 Now you didn't hear about this
08:00 in medical school either, didn't you?
08:01 No, we didn't have much
08:03 nutritional training at all in medical school.
08:06 In fact, you know, we had a few lectures about,
08:08 you know, nutrition effects diabetes.
08:10 But we went, we went to school and I said,
08:12 oh, I've learned most from talking to people
08:16 and I know you interviewed lot of people
08:18 through the years on your radio programs
08:19 as an editor of "Vibrant Life."
08:22 That--that you know, what are some pearls
08:24 that you might want to share with our viewers here?
08:25 Well, I tell you one of the things
08:27 that struck me the most is,
08:28 I was talking with T. Colin Campbell,
08:30 the very person that wrote "The China Study,"
08:32 you're talking about. We've had him on the show before.
08:34 And he was talking about supplements.
08:36 He was talking about taking nutrition
08:39 from a food and isolating and for instance Vitamin C.
08:43 We think Vitamin C is so good for us.
08:45 Orange juice have a lot of Vitamin C.
08:47 So let's take an orange and let's go in
08:49 and let's take the Vitamin C out of the orange
08:52 and put it in pill and then we can sell the pill. Right.
08:56 Well, okay, there is Vitamin C in a Vitamin C pill.
09:00 But here is the problem.
09:01 And T. Colin Campbell and all of these people,
09:03 who have been looking in the nutrition
09:04 for the past 20-30 years, concur on this thing.
09:09 What you're doing is you're taking the Vitamin C
09:12 away from the delivery mechanism of that fruit.
09:18 When you eat an orange,
09:20 you're not only eating the Vitamin C
09:23 you're also eating all the phytochemicals,
09:25 you're also eating the fiber,
09:27 all of these are necessary for that Vitamin C
09:31 to be metabolize correctly in your body.
09:35 So when you eat the orange,
09:36 in goes the Vitamin C and the fiber carries it
09:38 slowly through the body
09:41 and the nutrients are absorbed slowly through the body.
09:45 And everything is done at the pace that God designed it.
09:48 Instead you take the Vitamin C pill
09:51 and in goes and the body, woo, what's this?
09:53 What am I supposed to do with this?
09:55 Looks like Vitamin C, it smells like Vitamin C,
09:58 but I'm not sure
09:59 because there's no way of delivering this to the body.
10:02 And so lot of it just passed us through
10:04 and doesn't help us at all.
10:05 So it's important that when we talk about God's creation
10:10 and we talk about the Garden of Eden diet,
10:12 we're talking about whole foods. Right.
10:15 We're talking about foods as grown
10:18 and when we eat fruits as grown as opposed
10:20 to isolated portions of that food,
10:23 that's the best way of eating it.
10:25 And these issues get more and more complicated
10:27 when you talk about generically modified--
10:30 Oh, my. Oh, my. Foods versus organic.
10:31 So it really changes, you know--
10:33 Why are we messing with God's food?
10:34 If I was trying, again if I was trying again
10:36 and if I was trying to hurt society and create an industry,
10:39 I would feed them the wrong deal. Yes.
10:41 If you put water or kerosene in your car
10:44 of course it wouldn't run as well.
10:46 And we've to put great things in our car.
10:49 And I know you've interviewed,
10:50 you know, people like Edelstein, out in Texas.
10:53 And we're learning more and more
10:55 and I want our audience to understand today
10:58 that God gave us a great prescription to treat ourselves
11:01 and keep ourselves from ill, and that's in the food we eat.
11:04 It literally changes our chemistry.
11:07 I see in the office everyday when people eat better,
11:10 you know, they're inflammatory markers
11:11 like C-reactive proteins, those go down.
11:14 Their inflammation, the arthritis that goes down.
11:17 There is a chance that they might not have diabetes
11:19 and have all the diseases-- you know
11:20 the side effects of the medicines.
11:22 There blood pressure goes down when they eat well.
11:24 They sleep better when they eat better,
11:26 and more then anything else, Charles,
11:28 they start to think better. Yes.
11:29 And everyone needs to think better
11:31 so they can have these truths
11:33 and so when people talk about nutrition
11:35 I want them to think at what they eat is not--
11:38 is a treatment for disease
11:39 and it's a way to prevent disease.
11:41 And I think science is proving this and as we go along
11:44 we're gonna give some practical suggestions
11:45 about how people can start to do this in their own lives.
11:48 It is so important that we remember
11:50 that and we keep it in mind
11:51 because there is that connection again,
11:53 Dr. Marcum. Yes.
11:54 You're making that connection between the physical health
11:57 that we have and the spiritual health that we can enjoy.
12:00 They are so connected that if we're destroying one,
12:05 it goes both ways here.
12:06 If we're angry at God, if we're mad at God,
12:10 if we're just-- confused about God
12:15 and have a wrong perception of God,
12:18 it can affect our physical health. Exactly.
12:20 And when we're putting the wrong things in our bodies
12:22 and when we are hurting ourselves
12:24 and we're just filling ourselves up with food
12:26 that we were not designed to eat or digest,
12:29 our relationship with God suffers as well.
12:31 So that interconnection is so important.
12:33 So when we talk about--
12:34 whatever we talk about on this show there is a physical
12:37 and a spiritual connection between the two of them.
12:40 And we have to always keep in mind
12:42 that modern medicine has its place. Yes.
12:45 Lifestyle has its place.
12:47 But these laws and that relationship
12:49 with the Heavenly Father that give us the power
12:51 to learn about these things and also the power
12:53 through the Holy Spirit to make changes one at a time.
12:56 So nutrition is a treatment for disease
12:59 and how many have you written prescription
13:01 for good nutrition in the office,
13:02 and also prevents disease.
13:04 Oh my, we have a lot to talk about--
13:06 we're gonna take a short break
13:07 and when we come back we have some questions
13:08 that have been left for us
13:10 at heartwiseministries.org, it's the website.
13:13 Dr. Marcum here is the founder,
13:15 director of Heartwise Ministries
13:16 and he answers these questions.
13:18 Everyone that comes, and he and his staff--
13:20 sometimes they group them together
13:22 and answer them in groups.
13:24 But if you have a question
13:25 that you'd like to have us address on this program,
13:27 we would like for you to www. Heartwiseministries.org,
13:31 you'll find a link there that you can clink on
13:34 and leave a question for us
13:35 to answer right here on this program.
13:37 And we'll be doing that when we comeback.
13:39 So everybody stay right where you're.


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