Welcome back to the program.
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Remember I told you
about the flashlight
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and how we
sometimes need to use it
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to find the
problems in our lives
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and I suggest
looking under the bed.
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What that means
is we need to start
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looking in the dark
places of our lives.
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We need to start
looking in the corners
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and the closets where
our habits are hidden,
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where our ideals are set.
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We need to start
looking wherever we have to look
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to find truth
because we have been sold
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a real bill of
goods here Dr. Marcum.
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We've been sold error
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and that's what
the devil does so well.
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He serves up just pills
and pills of error for us
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when you start looking
for truth and that means
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we look in the dark
places of our lives.
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Now, Dr. Marcum
before we start looking
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in these dark
places in our lives,
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is there
something we should know
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that will help us in
our journey, in our search?
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Yeah, I want to show you
this reflex hammer, Charles.
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Okay. Doctors have
used this for years
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to check a person's
neurologic system. Yes.
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And that neurologic system
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is an indirect
way of thinking. Okay.
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Let me just try
this with you, Charles.
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All right, okay.
What we normally do,
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and I can't see it well
'cause you're wearing a suite,
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but we would hit right here
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and we watch the
muscle above it contract.
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This is a reflex hammer.
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And there's a bunch of
tests we can do to find truth.
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Sometimes we hit hard
like that. It's hard--
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That hurt. And I
could do like that.
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Yeah. Pop you in the head too,
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but these tests
are neurologic system--
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Sometimes truth
hurts, right? Okay.
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Yeah, this checks
our neurologic system.
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But how do we check
our truth system? Oh.
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You know, this
checks our reflexes,
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but how do we know
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whether we're
being taught truth? Yes.
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How do we know
that we're not buying
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a bunch of lies and
that we're not lost?
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And if we took that
test, the truth test,
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we would fail dramatically. Yes.
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How do we know that?
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And that's what we
wanna talk about today
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to get our viewers to understand
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that there is a truth out there
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that not only
applies to their lives,
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but also applies to
medicine and healing
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and this has to be a part
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of every healing
program out there.
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And we're gonna find
out how people can know
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whether they'll have the
truth in their life or not.
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All right, all right.
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Well, let's look
at a question there
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we have from
heartwiseministries.org.
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By the way, listener and viewer,
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if you'd like to be
part of this program,
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be happy to answer
your questions there,
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just go to
heartwiseministries.org
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and click on the ask a question
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and we just may
bring it right here
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and talk about
it on this program.
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We would appreciate
it if you'd do that.
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Okay, here's a
question from a viewer,
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"Every night I take a handful
of pills, oh, my goodness,
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"I've been doing this for years.
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Is there any way
I can get off some?"
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Now this is a lady in
Nebraska asked this question.
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It sounds like
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that may be she
needs to start looking
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at some of the dark
places of her life, right?
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Yeah, it does and, you know,
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pills sometimes help
acute situations greatly,
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but I see patients
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that can be on as
10 or as 15 many pills.
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They all have side effects
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and every
medicine has a potential
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to do harm as well as good. Yes.
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So before I write a
prescription for anything,
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I look at whether the
benefit is worth the risk?
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Every pill has a risk.
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Can she get off
these pills? Yes.
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These
prescription pills were made
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to change a body's chemistry.
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Now some of these
pills that we have found out
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have been pulled off the market
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because they were dangerous.
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Tell us about this,
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the change of body's chemistry,
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in another words, we
have a certain standard.
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We have a
certain normalcy about us
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that says this
is what our body is.
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This is what our chemistry is?
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Yes, I want to
talk to this lady,
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her name is Melinda Lillibet.
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Melinda, I have a few patients
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that become very, very
sick for whatever reason
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they got on a handful of pills,
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the next thing they know,
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they're stressed
out from their illness.
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They don't sleep well at night.
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Because they don't
sleep well at night,
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they take a sleeping
pill and that keeps--
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that knocks them out but
they don't necessarily rest.
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When they get up in the morning,
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they don't eat breakfast.
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They feel lousy.
So what do they do?
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They take some more
pills to get them going.
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And this is making
their life darker and darker.
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That's right.
They're moving further
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into the void here
we're talking about.
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Yes, they don't
necessary feel better
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so all the sudden
they miss breakfast
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and they eat more
than they should at lunch.
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And sooner or
later they gain weight
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and they take a
pill for diabetes
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and sooner or later
because of the extra weight,
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their blood pressure goes up.
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At night, they develop
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a condition called sleep apnea,
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so they have to wear a mask.
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They eat a big meal at night
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because they just
want some comfort.
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All the stuff
starts refluxing up in them
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so they take a
pill to block acid.
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Well, sooner or
later all this happens,
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they fall down and break
a bone, end up in a cast.
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Well, sooner or later,
all the stress gets to them
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and before they
know that they're on
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five or six pills with
all these side effects.
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But the answer is it's possible
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to be off these medicines
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if we can change our
chemistry some other way.
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And what I encourage people
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to do is work
with your physicians,
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say listen, what are medicines
that I might be off of.
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And if a medicine is treating
the symptom of diabetes,
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let's say, you
know, lots of people
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have what we
call type II diabetes,
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that's adult onset diabetes.
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If we can get on a
good exercise program,
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a good nutrition program,
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it might be we can take
off this medicine. If we can--
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Let there be light.
Yes. Let there be light.
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If we can learn why we
don't sleep well at night,
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you know, maybe it's
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because we watch too much T.V.
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or eat a big meal at
night. Let there be light.
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Right, exactly and maybe
we can get off that medicine.
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Maybe if we don't eat
our biggest meal at night
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and lay down flat
and have all those acids,
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maybe that's another
pill we can get off of.
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So if you meet them
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where they are based on truth,
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and I tell them, you know,
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there's truth in the Bible
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that can lower
your blood pressure,
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that can lower your cholesterol,
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that gets you feeling better.
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But if we can do
this one at a time,
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maybe you won't be a
victim of side effects.
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And I'm discovering right now,
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I'm working on a
new book right now
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about how
medicines can hurt people.
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And a lot of
people don't realize
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that medicines can
actually kill people. Yeah.
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It's the third or fourth
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leading cause of
death in America.
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A lot of people never
intend to have these overdoses.
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A lot of people don't know
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that medicines
can cause side effects
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when it goes
through organ systems.
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So I applaud Melinda,
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for wanting to be
off of medication,
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but there's ways
but you have to work
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with your health care provider
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and I would
encourage you to find someone
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that's willing to work with you.
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And I applaud her
for-- lot of people
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don't even know that
they can even try this. Yes.
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You know, if a
doctor put me on it,
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I've to stay on it
for the rest of life,
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I've no solutions. Yeah.
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But that's not true either.
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There are ways and the way
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is first to ask some
questions and understand
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that if you can change
your chemistry other ways
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maybe even better than a
pill with less side effects.
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Did you know, Charles,
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that rest is one of the
best treatments there is.
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If you broke your arm, okay,
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you wouldn't keep
throwing fastballs. No.
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Well, people are
violating this natural law
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of rest everyday
and when they do that
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our chemistry goes crazy.
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So one of the
ways I encourage people
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to get off medications is
just start resting better.
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You know, that again was a truth
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that we found
way back at creation.
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It is so simple, these
things are not difficult.
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As a matter of fact,
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they've been
around as long as we have.
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As a matter of fact they
were around before we were
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and that's
significant I think, Dr. Marcum,
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that Dr. God-- Yes.
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The master physician, Dr. God
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put this environment together,
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put these laws in place for us
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before we came along,
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He knew we needed them.
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He knew they would
be important to us.
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So all of the laws
we will be talking about
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the next few programs
including this look for truth,
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allow truth to come in was there
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before we were and we miss it.
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We miss it so often.
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Well, Dr. Marcum,
here's another question
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that has come into the
Heart Wise Ministries website,
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let me grab it right here.
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"I am 72 years old
and have been diagnosed
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with prostate cancer,
I've seen three specialists
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who have advised
three different treatments,"
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oh, dear, "I am
not medically oriented
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and worked as an
accountant before retirement,
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not too long ago. If
you were in my shoes,"
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this person's
asking, "what would you do?"
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Yeah, and I love to answer
people's questions, Charles,
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because when people
ask questions, you know,
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I know that they are looking,
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they are searching for truth.
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Searching for
truth, they want life.
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The first place
in looking for truth
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is to ask a question
and that's what I started,
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and we talked
earlier in the program about,
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you know, I asked, you know,
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God to show me how
I can help minister
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to my patients but I
was looking for something
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'cause I knew
something was missing
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and I really think
that God looks for people
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and shows them where
they need to look for truth.
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So this guy is asking a question
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about going to
three different doctors
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for three different conditions
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and one of the doctors
might say for prostate cancer
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to have nothing done at all.
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That's not an uncommon treatment
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'cause prostate
cancer moves very,
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very slowly we know this.
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Other doctors might
say, well, its spread,
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we need to, you
know, remove the prostate,
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which is called
the prostatectomy.
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We might even have to
start with some chemotherapy.
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We might have a
lot more to be done.
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But the problem is when we
go out in the medical world,
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you're gonna get many different
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opinions about everything.
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What does a person do
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when they are looking for truth?
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You know, when
there's three different people
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that are very credible that say
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they have the answers.
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This is a dilemma
I had in medicine.
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I knew I wasn't
practicing cardiology
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the way I wanted to do
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but where do
you go to find truth
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when there's
three different doctors
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saying three different things,
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who do you believe?
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Well, the first thing I
want to talk to this gentleman
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about is thank you
for asking a question.
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And the second
thing is go to the Bible.
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Ask God to lead you
to truth in this issue.
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He cares about
every aspect of your life.
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He's gonna find someone
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that will help you find truth.
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He wants to bring light. Yes.
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So include him in
the treatment plan.
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Say, God, I don't
know who to believe.
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There's so much out there,
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show me what
truth is for my life.
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And then talk to some
people that you trust dearly
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and try to keep the
balance of it altogether.
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You know, what's
the balance treatment?
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What's being too aggressive?
What's not being aggressive?
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Read the literature. Yeah.
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What's gonna make
my life live longer?
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Is this treatment
proven beyond a shred of doubt
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to make me live longer
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and you have a
better quality of life?
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Or via a double placebo
trial or is it not considered?
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Now, when you
talk about treatments,
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when you talk about
medicines and pills,
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do you as a cardiologist
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actually take into consideration
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these rules and regulations
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as it applies to that treatment?
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That's where I start.
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And that's what I learned,
Charles, as I want to start
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with the Bible source of truth
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as the ultimate
medical textbook.
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I want to have the
great physician guiding me.
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I want to have
the great physician
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guiding everybody
into healing and help
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bring him to the type
of healers it might use.
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You know, there's
all sorts of healers.
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We talked about
that. There are some people
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that are medical
doctors that are healers.
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We have chiropractors.
We have many different
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subsets of doctors
that are doing healing.
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You know, we have
people that do natural things,
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that help with
diet and exercise,
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that bring people
along and all these aspects.
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But unless they
have the great physician
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guiding this umbrella,
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we can't really find
the true source of truth.
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So that's what I
would tell him first,
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is go to your Bible,
start praying to God,
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ask God to
introduce truth in your life,
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ask these questions
and continue to search
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and God will help you
find what's best for you
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in regards to the
treatment for prostate cancer.
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This brings us to
that very important point
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that you make
time and time again,
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Dr. Marcum that is
that when we treat disease,
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when we deal with
disease and illness,
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the place to start is here
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and modern medicine is
used to make it possible
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for us to get back here. Yes.
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We may have to
have that stent put in.
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We may have to have that bypass.
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But the idea is that
it gives us a little bit
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more time for light
to come into our lives.
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God wants to put the
light of truth into our lives
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and sometimes we may have to use
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modern medicine to
buy us time to do that.
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Shinning light into the
dark areas of our lives,
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the only truth is
you'll need to go find truth,
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truth as seen in the
Bible. Let me pray with you
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that you might
find truth in your life.
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Father God, there
might be someone out there
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that wants to find
truth and wants to enter
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into a healing
relationship with you Father,
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please help this to
happen Father as we trust in you
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every single day of our life,
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is our most humble prayer. Amen.
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Remember as you're
on your healing journey
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that there's a
place for modern medicine
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but that can't fix everything.
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There's a place for lifestyle,
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exercise, and eating right
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but that doesn't fix everything.
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It's only in that relationship
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with the heavenly father
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that we can find
ultimate healing,
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that relationship is
the ultimate prescription.
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We would like to serve you
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Come to our website
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With your prayers,
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and we want you to
always remember that,
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that heavenly
Father loves you so much,
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wants to hold you in
the palm of His hands,
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wants to enter a saving
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healing relationship with you.
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Go with peace to stay
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and just like back at creation,
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remember, there's truth
to be found in this Bible
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that we use as our
ultimate healing manual.
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